Magician epic in velious...achievable or nah?

[godbox]

Mage was a class I enjoyed on classic I loooooved all the conjuration and pets. It was made really clear to me when I started on p99 that no mage outside of the most active guild would ever land epic and not even many of those blah blah that story. Wasn't interested in devoting the time when the strongest class feature is unobtainable. Bam sham bam epic unguided at lvl 54
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in velious will we see mage epics being more easily obtained or nah?

[pasi]

More Earth Staffs will potentially enter the world when Hate Minis go in.

Magi Ptasa is a 3 day spawn. I believe that Magi also has a similar drop-rate to Innoruuk, but I have no evidence to support that.

It's still a really shitty epic to do.

[webrunner5]

More Earth Staffs will potentially enter the world when Hate Minis go in.

Magi Ptasa is a 3 day spawn. I believe that Magi also has a similar drop-rate to Innoruuk, but I have no evidence to support that.

It's still a really shitty epic to do.

Yeah it is a ball buster to do, but if you are lucky you end up the the Pet from Hell lol. :eek: Probably the best farming machine in the game.

[Daldaen]

What Pasi said.

Eventually on live they pushed the earth staff onto revenant trash also. However I believe this was a 2002 addition sadly.

[Monty405]

I remember getting my magician epic on live. Camping Magi'P Tasa in hate, getting called at 3:30am to wake up and log in my parked character in PoSky. (Un)thankfully I was a teenager with no life and a lot of pixel friends.

[Swish]

achievable on red, give it a try there

[Charlievox]

Raised up a Mage on Live ('04 to '09) to level 80. Never did finish the Epic. I still believe that damn flying horse is a myth.

[dafier]

Magi Ptasa is a 3 day spawn. I believe that Magi also has a similar drop-rate to Innoruuk, but I have no evidence to support that.

It has a WAY better drop rate than Inny. Magi'Ptasa has less drops available AND the drop rate more than doubles from Inny's drop rate.

Secondly, Magi can spawn in multiple places at the same time.

Third, IF he has the staff, he wields it. So, you will know RIGHT AWAY if he has it or not, just by looking at him.

[dafier]

Mage epic is one of the top crappiest in the game to achieve, but with Hate 2.0 the current bottle neck regarding the Earth Staff will get better.

[godbox]

Mage epic is one of the top crappiest in the game to achieve, but with Hate 2.0 the current bottle neck regarding the Earth Staff will get better.

such a huge bummer being such a pivotal part of the class. It's like if monks needed a bottleneck quest for feign death to work at 60. When devs eventually consider what to do with the server as velious gets towards the end of live they should really consider doing a minor overhaul of some of the more bullshit epics. classic or not.

[dafier]

such a huge bummer being such a pivotal part of the class. It's like if monks needed a bottleneck quest for feign death to work at 60. When devs eventually consider what to do with the server as velious gets towards the end of live they should really consider doing a minor overhaul of some of the more bullshit epics. classic or not.

Not going to happen even though I do not disagree.

My opinion:

I love this project (P99) and it's similarities to classic live. Mage epic was the most difficult epic in the game due to multiple BULL CRAP spawns and very rare drops off them. WAY worse than any other epic related mobs in the game, overall.

When a Mage achieves their epic AND level 60, the time frame in which P99 is currently, it makes the mage basically a HUGE asset. The pet can out damage EVERY melee class in the game (except Rogues). And, it usually makes dps charts during boss fights (which is ridiculous).

The stats on the Orb are beyond awesome, but that is to be expected because all other epics in game are like that too.

I believe if anything were to change it would ruin the epic. It is the most difficult to get because of the pet and it's abilities. I do not wish for the devs to change anything regarding the epic. I just hope they follow what was true to the original design, and what I am most referring to is Hate 2.0. Magi P'Tasa Staff drops were a HUGE relief for all Magus. The staff wasn't NEARLY as bad as it was with Inny, who literally almost never dropped the staff.

/Opinion off regarding my thoughts on mage epic

One other thing I'd like to say is IF a mage can't or doesn't want to take the time to get the epic, which happens for various reasons: At least get the Water staff off Phinny or do the Plane of Sky quest and get the Air staff.

Both of those are HUGE upgrades to the 51+ pets and are the next best thing to an epic. Remember, a mage is only as good as his/her/its/transgender pet.

[pasi]

It has a WAY better drop rate than Inny. Magi'Ptasa has less drops available AND the drop rate more than doubles from Inny's drop rate.

Secondly, Magi can spawn in multiple places at the same time.

For mages sake, I hope the top part is true regarding the droprate. I've got no information here.

To my knowledge, Magi cannot spawn in multiple places until the next revamp after Velious where minis get switched to a rare spawn off their corresponding underlings' spots.

[dafier]

For mages sake, I hope the top part is true regarding the droprate. I've got no information here.

To my knowledge, Magi cannot spawn in multiple places until the next revamp after Velious where minis get switched to a rare spawn off their corresponding underlings' spots.

I think you have a point. Early Velious (release) I think Magi has a single spawn point and has a chance of a PH. And, yes, the drop rate is much better than Inny.

For 1, Inny is a 7 day spawn. 2, I believe the drop rate of the staff is < 5%.

Magi drop rate is more like 30+ % and is on a 3 day spawn timer. The PH is on a 12 hour spawn timer.

[Honest]

Took me 3 years to get the epic on my mage. Was a pretty amazing moment tho and the versatility of the pet is great.

[dafier]

Took me 3 years to get the epic on my mage. Was a pretty amazing moment tho and the versatility of the pet is great.

On P99 or live? And congrats! I can't agree with you more.

I achieved my epic on live during the Velious explansion. When I did, it was 2am one morning and I had to work the next day early.

I checked on Magi around midnight, saw he was up and holding the staff. Took my guild about 30 or 45 mins to get the forces ported up.

After I got the staff, I got a port to DL, ran to FV, did my Earth turn in. Gated back to FP. Ran to WC and paid a Wizard to port me to sky with all the Elements in hand.

I had to tell the quest NPC in sky "Let me see the master", and that big element appeared in some cave. I think you can hail him and say something but his response is weak. Anyway, I'll never forget that moment and there after.

That pet was a HUGE game changer. Huge.

[godbox]

On P99 or live? And congrats! I can't agree with you more.

I achieved my epic on live during the Velious explansion. When I did, it was 2am one morning and I had to work the next day early.

I checked on Magi around midnight, saw he was up and holding the staff. Took my guild about 30 or 45 mins to get the forces ported up.

After I got the staff, I got a port to DL, ran to FV, did my Earth turn in. Gated back to FP. Ran to WC and paid a Wizard to port me to sky with all the Elements in hand.

I had to tell the quest NPC in sky "Let me see the master", and that big element appeared in some cave. I think you can hail him and say something but his response is weak. Anyway, I'll never forget that moment and there after.

That pet was a HUGE game changer. Huge.

45mins get ready time at 3am wouldn't get you a staff on p99 I don't think :(

[dafier]

Lucky for me, I have a good guild in P99. So, np there. On live, it was during the week and very late. And, I got VERY lucky.

[Honest]

On P99 or live? And congrats! I can't agree with you more.

I achieved my epic on live during the Velious explansion. When I did, it was 2am one morning and I had to work the next day early.

I checked on Magi around midnight, saw he was up and holding the staff. Took my guild about 30 or 45 mins to get the forces ported up.

After I got the staff, I got a port to DL, ran to FV, did my Earth turn in. Gated back to FP. Ran to WC and paid a Wizard to port me to sky with all the Elements in hand.

I had to tell the quest NPC in sky "Let me see the master", and that big element appeared in some cave. I think you can hail him and say something but his response is weak. Anyway, I'll never forget that moment and there after.

That pet was a HUGE game changer. Huge.

I played a warrior on live mostly. I'm talking here on P99.

[Uuruk]

On red your pet just gets charmed by jackasses on your raid or by any local bard/chanter in pvp. Real fun.

[dafier]

On red your pet just gets charmed by jackasses on your raid or by any local bard/chanter in pvp. Real fun.

Play blue!

[J. Jones]

i recall looting the earth staff off a revenant on live.

[J. Jones]

On red your pet just gets charmed by jackasses on your raid or by any local bard/chanter in pvp. Real fun.

I played red so I could see what mage epic pet was like in pvp and I was just disappointed. pet has low MR resist compared to live (even though nilbog 'buffed' it up), but it's still an instant fear with very low resist. Also, the chances you'll run into PVP with the epic pet up is less likely and most times you'll just get gimped.

[Daldaen]

I believe that's in Hate B, after PoP. However if you have evidence this happened during Velious surely post it. I'd much rather the Mage epic be attainable that way rather than a rare spawn named in Hate.

[J. Jones]

yea you're right, cause I did get it during pop expansion.

[dafier]

i recall looting the earth staff off a revenant on live.

I do as well. But I am very sure that is Hate 3.0 and THAT will not happen with P99 timeline. EDIT: I remember this happening but I was level 70 at the time helping my second mage get his epic. So, that is GoD time frame....I believe.

Best magus will see per archives is multiple spawn point possibilities for Magi P'tasa which is still WAY better than the Inny drop rate.

[J. Jones]

I do as well. But I am very sure that is Hate 3.0 and THAT will not happen with P99 timeline. EDIT: I remember this happening but I was level 70 at the time helping my second mage get his epic. So, that is GoD time frame....I believe.

Best magus will see per archives is multiple spawn point possibilities for Magi P'tasa which is still WAY better than the Inny drop rate.

naw, I got it during PoP because I quit during LDoN

[dafier]

humm OK, maybe I was getting my second mage his epic way later then.

Yo, give me your blazing wand. I need it. :)