Tranny Genetics

[Pokesan]

https://www.youtube.com/v/pckjiU6iYEU?version=3&start=117&end=130&autoplay=0&hl=en_US&rel=0

gonna beat the shit out of you for not supporting my imaginary gender

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Saw this. Now imagine the outrage if the roles were reversed.

[Millburn]

Good for her, glad she's standing up for herself.

[Pokesan]

Good for her, glad she's standing up for herself.

I'm generally in favor of ben shapiro getting a beating but not when a fakelady is gonna use "her" manstrength in lieu of an argument.

[Millburn]

I'm generally in favor of ben shapiro getting a beating but not when a fakelady is gonna use "her" manstrength in lieu of an argument.

Not sure if bigot or troll.

https://proxy.spigotmc.org/c23773b6d9b1852965033f9dfb780382fcce024d?url=http% 3A%2F%2Fi.kinja-img.com%2Fgawker-media%2Fimage%2Fupload%2Fs--3KyC1QYb--%2F192grnddyjc4ejpg.jpg

[Pokesan]

Not sure if bigot or troll.



eh threatening violence when someone disagrees with you is a pretty poor position.

i'm glad you think i'm a bigot if you support her.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Good for her, glad she's standing up for herself.

Not sure if bigot or troll.

I remember a time when "believe what I say or I'll hurt you" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxDtEs9uTVk) was the conservative position.

Horseshoe theory is real folks.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

"her"

That's not a woman. Women don't threaten violence when their worldview is challenged.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

The full video. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwtzxCzVky0)
Notice that they will ask Shapiro a question and proceed to interrupt and dog-pile him without allowing him to make a point. How progressive.

[katrik]

Threatening violence isn't lady like, and I'm pretty sure she didn't mean it. She probably feels like crap about it now. However, I don't even know who these people are.

[Visual]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yErb0jzIPL8

[FoxxHound]

I like to shit in the shower, and stomp it down the drain...

[Champion_Standing]

Not sure if bigot or troll.

I remember a time when "believe what I say or I'll hurt you" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxDtEs9uTVk) was the conservative position.

Horseshoe theory is real folks.

I personally find it funny that the liberal left has become the main force behind censorship today. I predict massive book burnings within the next 6 months.

[Madbad]

I like to shit in the shower, and stomp it down the drain...

my hero!

[Tenlaar]

I personally find it funny that the liberal left has become the main force behind censorship today. I predict massive book burnings within the next 6 months.

I predict that stupid people will still be saying stupid shit in six months.

I'll check your posts then to see.

[Big_Japan]

http://nymag.com/thecut/2015/07/what-open-marriage-taught-one-man-about-feminism.html

As I write this, my children are asleep in their room, Loretta Lynn is on the stereo, and my wife is out on a date with a man named Paulo. It’s her second date this week; her fourth this month so far. If it goes like the others, she’ll come home in the middle of the night, crawl into bed beside me, and tell me all about how she and Paulo had sex. I won’t explode with anger or seethe with resentment. I’ll tell her it’s a hot story and I’m glad she had fun. It’s hot because she’s excited, and I’m glad because I’m a feminist.

[Cecily]

I always thought Jenner was going to be a train wreck for trans people.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

http://nymag.com/thecut/2015/07/what-open-marriage-taught-one-man-about-feminism.html

As I write this, my children are asleep in their room, Loretta Lynn is on the stereo, and my wife is out on a date with a man named Paulo. It’s her second date this week; her fourth this month so far. If it goes like the others, she’ll come home in the middle of the night, crawl into bed beside me, and tell me all about how she and Paulo had sex. I won’t explode with anger or seethe with resentment. I’ll tell her it’s a hot story and I’m glad she had fun. It’s hot because she’s excited, and I’m glad because I’m a feminist.

Lol I had almost forgotten about king of cucks.

So much happening this week between Cuck, Shapiro getting rough-housed by that big guy (for him) and Gawker finally burning. The extreme 'progressives' and their useful idiots are finally starting to see the kool aid for what it is.

[Uthgaard]

Could the pendulum finally stop in the middle? Could the age of rational thought be upon us?

JK I troll.

[paulgiamatti]

http://i.imgur.com/rmdSx.gif

[Cecily]

I always thought Jenner was going to be a train wreck for trans people.

NM that was someone else with alot less facial surgery. I mean.. trans people DO tend to be over sensitive and if you call one "sir", like the little kid in the suit did, it's about the meanest thing you can say to their face and I'm not surprised at the reaction. Probably the worst reaction possible short of actually sending him to hospital, but it's understandable.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

NM that was someone else with alot less facial surgery. I mean.. trans people DO tend to be over sensitive and if you call one "sir", like the little kid in the suit did, it's about the meanest thing you can say to their face and I'm not surprised at the reaction. Probably the worst reaction possible short of actually sending him to hospital, but it's understandable.

'sir' is the most accurate way to address him no matter which way you swing it. Fuck his feelings. Shapiro has numbers and science behind him.

I can't think of any other situation where someone is applauded for using their mental illness as a shield to keep themselves from getting treatment from that very mental illness

[Cecily]

And you're obviously on his side of the argument. I'm actually not going to get into that with you. "Fuck his feelings" though. Can a literal asperger like yourself even empathize with people at all? I don't know about the empathy, but I'm sure you're able to relate with feeling like you don't belong. Alienation. Depression. Unlike your condition, trans people actually have medical options to deal with theirs. Shapiro also happens to be wrong, suicide rates in post sexual reassignment transsexuals drops to the national average. It saves lives. So fuck your feelings too.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Quick Google search proves you very very wrong. The only 'study' I could find that backs up your claim is from Sweden... which should speak for itself.

[Cecily]

So the general population's suicide rate in the US is 1.6 %. Post-op transsexual suicide rate is about 4.1%. Hundreds of times higher than general population so sex changes aren't the solution, obviously. Besides, you know, the 41% suicide rate of pre-op transgender people. 1000x reduction in the risk of suicide for the treatment of what the APA now considers a birth defect, not a mental illness.

But whatever. I'm arguing with a guy who has a quote about hentai and tentacles in his sig. Look I have nothing to gain by convincing you of anything.
I'm almost positively going to join that 41% so it's an issue that I feel is kinda a big deal and a little more real than you give it credit for. Try to be less of a dick. Later.

[katrik]

<3 u Ceci. Hope you're doing well. Don't listen to nerds that have zero clue how we feel and what we deal with.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

So the general population's suicide rate in the US is 1.6 %. Post-op transsexual suicide rate is about 4.1%. Hundreds of times higher than general population so sex changes aren't the solution, obviously. Besides, you know, the 41% suicide rate of pre-op transgender people. 1000x reduction in the risk of suicide for the treatment of what the APA now considers a birth defect, not a mental illness.

But whatever. I'm arguing with a guy who has a quote about hentai and tentacles in his sig. Look I have nothing to gain by convincing you of anything.
I'm almost positively going to join that 41% so it's an issue that I feel is kinda a big deal and a little more real than you give it credit for. Try to be less of a dick. Later.

<3 u Ceci. Hope you're doing well. Don't listen to nerds that have zero clue how we feel and what we deal with.

I can't think of any other situation where someone is applauded for using their mental illness as a shield to keep themselves from getting treatment from that very mental illness

Point proven.

All this rage over a fucking pronoun.

[Big_Japan]

I don't know yall, I questioned my own gender identity from age 4 and felt alienated and depressed and like everything would be fine if I could just join the more privileged sex plenty in my day. But realizing that gender is an arbitrary construct just like like our bifurcated assigned sexualities was the way forward for me.

Rising above it, not using mad science to poison my brain and turn me into a twisted sex freak, has kept a lot more options open to me and instead of my depression sending me on a permanent downward spiral of false identity, I can stand tall as man. Not a gay man or a trans woman or a straight cuckold like most of the plebs I meet, but a man and minor God in the Roman sense who bends himself only to nature instead of a twisted and disgusting set of temporary societal norms.

I can't help but pity those who lacked the strength or support to find happiness as their true selves and stand before God as humans, not science projects. To take hormones whose correlation to suicide strongly implies they cause serious insult to the human psyche simply to look different is an absolutely horrifying conclusion to try and justify. Your appearance is meaningless, and your intelligence is the only thing of importance. Poisoning the health of one to change the other is sad, very sad. But it's pretty hot you committed to lifelong torture and servile plebitude just to please my dick - wanna fuck?

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/947/236/9bc.jpg

[Big_Japan]

what you do with your biologically predestined dick shonuff is a social construct. Sorry if I was ambiguous enough to be confused with a relativist, but don't you start strawmanning me little man.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Procreation is a social construct.

[katrik]

Point proven.

All this rage over a fucking pronoun.

Was just sticking up for a friend. Again, I dunno who these ppl are. Sorry I called u a nerd tho. I'm kind of a nerd too. =>

http://i.imgur.com/UncdWMy.jpg

[Big_Japan]

Procreation is a social construct.

Procreation is optional, fascist.

[katrik]

And I'm not an expert in tranny stuff, nor do I claim to be.. but in the past 4/5 years, I'm as happy as I've ever been. There isn't a thing you can say or suggest, or a piece of research you can put in my face, to change that.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Was just sticking up for a friend. Again, I dunno who these ppl are. Sorry I called u a nerd tho. I'm kind of a nerd too. =>
I get that, but it doesn't change the fact that they don't have a positive attitude and instead blow up when facts that don't support their narrative are brought up.
And I'm not an expert in tranny stuff, nor do I claim to be.. but in the past 4/5 years, I'm as happy as I've ever been. There isn't a thing you can say or suggest, or a piece of research you can put in my face, to change that.

IIRC you've done HRT but have no plans to take a power drill to your crotch yeah?

Also based on the pics you've posted you have "passing privilege" so you probably don't have to pay the pronoun game nearly as often as the journalist in question who is literally just a dude in a dress/wig.

[katrik]

I would love that power drill thingy done, but that kind of financial goal won't come around probably until I'm finished with school and married.

[Pokesan]

I'm almost positively going to join that 41% so it's an issue that I feel is kinda a big deal and a little more real than you give it credit for.

if this is your honest and genuine assessment of your current situation and future, you should consider in-patient treatment

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

I would love that power drill thingy done.

I prefer your girlcock. No homo.

[katrik]

I prefer your girlcock. No homo.

Haha. You're good.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

If you're dead set on doing it though go to the Philippines. They are the only ones that have been reported to do it and get rid of the smell.

[katrik]

If you're dead set on doing it though go to the Philippines. They are the only ones that have been reported to do it and get rid of the smell.

Smell? ;O

eww. I don't think there is any smell when it's all healed up and functional. I guess I could be wrong.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Smell? ;O

eww. I don't think there is any smell when it's all healed up and functional. I guess I could be wrong.

I won't claim to know from experience but every American/European "encounter" I've read about talks about how no matter how convincing surgery job had been done, there's a disgusting smell and weird discharge that is the big tell.
Then you read about Philippino ladyboys and how people bed them and are none the wiser.

[katrik]

Ewww

[Cecily]

Really not something I want to discuss here at all but: Depends on where they get the donor material from... Shouldn't happen with inversion technique but if the hormones caused alot of atropy it takes more donor material and there's a self lubricating muscosa membrane... called the rectosigmoid colon. It's fucking gross, stinks. Hopefully this (http://humrep.oxfordjournals.org/content/18/3/604.full) technique becomes more available, uses bucal (mouth lining) cells instead. Don't go to the Philippines just because. Educate yourself on your options and research doctors and what techniques they use. Read testimonials.

[Tradesonred]

So im temp banned over using the word ****** in a clear, unmistakeable sarcastic way, but this thread gets let alone unmolested for what, a week now. (Actually its 2 days, still)

Another ironic ban incoming

[katrik]

I think using the n word and having a 'somewhat' friendly debate is a little different.

[Tradesonred]

I wasnt talking about the discussion of the thread itself

[Cecily]

What exactly are you talking about? Cause I don't think the two trans people in this thread are offended, and kinda even agree with OP.
Have you considered not using certain words you know will result in a forum ban regardless of context?

[Big_Japan]

Really not something I want to discuss here at all but: Depends on where they get the donor material from... there's a self lubricating muscosa membrane... called the rectosigmoid colon. It's fucking gross, stinks.

so basically you're still banging a butt

[Cecily]

If you opt for that particular procedure... haha yep. That's one of those things you could have gone through life happily ignorant of, but you're welcome.

[Tradesonred]

Context is everything

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

What exactly are you talking about? Cause I don't think the two trans people in this thread are offended, and kinda even agree with OP.
Have you considered not using certain words you know will result in a forum ban regardless of context?

For some reason when I read your posts on my phone they seem more angry/reactive. :p

I don't know if it helps or adds confusion as to where I stand but I sincerely hope that one day they invent genetic re-sequencing so they can actually turn people into the other gender because reassignment surgery is a cosmetic procedure even in the times where it does indeed help the patient.

[katrik]

For some reason when I read your posts on my phone they seem more angry/reactive. :p

I don't know if it helps or adds confusion as to where I stand but I sincerely hope that one day they invent genetic re-sequencing so they can actually turn people into the other gender because reassignment surgery is a cosmetic procedure even in the times where it does indeed help the patient.

I wish it wasn't considered so.. I could definitely see some insurance companies changing that policy. Would be so nice to just pay a 5 or 10 grand deductible versus shelling out 40-60k. ; S

[Cecily]

For some reason when I read your posts on my phone they seem more angry/reactive. :p

Deliberately using the old pronouns as an insult on a trans person who is really trying their best to get away from their old gender role / presentation does legitimately piss me off. I don't think you're necessarily trying to do that, although that's how I took it initially. And I honestly don't think Henry Rollins in a wig is trying her best, either. That person is representing trans people in the worst possible light both in appearance and behavior.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Deliberately using the pronouns as an insult on a trans person who is really trying their best to get away from their old gender role / presentation does legitimately piss me off. I don't think you're necessarily trying to do that, although that's how I took it initially. And I honestly don't think Henry Rollins in a wig is trying her best, either. That person is representing trans people in the worst possible light both in appearance and behavior.

I draw the line pretty clearly. If someone legally changes their name I'll call them that name when I learn their name.

Pronouns are about perception, when you see someone you apply a gendered identity to that person regardless of how they identify themselves and to force someone to go against their natural instinctual identifiers when addressing someone is invasive at best.

Lets compare it to gays and religious folk.
There are a plethora of memes out there that will say "when is the last time a gay came to your door to try to convert you?" and those memes are 100% spot on.
Gay people simply existing as homosexuals does not effect anyone in any single way. What they do in their bedroom or at a gay club/bar is their own business.
Religious folk on the other hand have every right to practice their religion without state interference, when they practice it at home or in a church it doesn't adversely effect anyone.
So far pretty even.
Now lets compare that to how they behave in public.
Gay pride parade: They want rights, they want to celebrate, they want to be accepted. They aren't forcing anyone to do anything, its just a gay bar outdoors, to put it crudely.
Religious proselytizers: They will go to your home and try to shame you for not worshiping their god. They will stand in public and try to use fear to bribe you with 'salvation' to follow their belief system. These practices are categorically invasive.

Now we see the difference, its how they interact with others when it comes to their identity. Gays want to simply be allowed to exist, the religious want you to conform to their belief system.
Now if you get approached by a religious person and refuse to conform, regardless of the reaction of the proselytizer in question, are you branded a hateful person? Are you considered a bigot? Or are you simply an individual not allowing others to force you to change how you live?

Why then is it so different when someone whom all five of your senses tells you is a specific gender wants you to address them in an unnatural manner? Is it simply because they are a protected class? If so, that's honestly not a 'good' reason is it? If it's for tolerance and acceptance and all of those other buzzwords, is it not hypocritical to decide not to apply it to the proselytizer?

I'm sorry, but here in the real world my rights don't end where someone else's feelings begin, if I'm uncomfortable calling an obviously biological male "she" I'm not gonna do it, and you're an asshole if you are going to try to shame me into doing so.

Just my 2cp.

[katrik]

It's tricky. Upon first meeting, say, such as out in public, a grocery store, whatever, it's ok to be sir'd or miss'd. It's an accident, people are generally really uneducated about all of this stuff. And of course, if you appear or look as whatever gender you are born with, you might get mis-pronouned. I think what Cec is trying to get at, if it's a friend, family member, co-worker, someone you deal with frequently, and to purposefully use old pronouns is very insulting. Accidents happen, but doing it on purpose when you know her condition and what's going on with her is really mean. However, you can do whatever you want to. Nobody's gonna make you do anything.

Like, my family, for example, flat out refuses to call me by my legal name. For most trans people this is a deal breaker, I let it slide, because I know how uneducated, religous, and stubborn rednecks can be. They will never change. And I love my stupid family.

[Cecily]

Like you mention, Kag, it's about perception. If a person passes, they don't need to force pronouns out of anyone. If not... I think it's a matter of respect for another human being to call them what they're going for if there's obvious effort being put forth. And to deliberately not do so is going to be taken as extremely disrespectful. Whether or not you choose to do so, that's up to you.

[Rararboker]

I would refuse to just because I am not going to play to their delusions.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

if there's obvious effort being put forth.

That's the key. Too many men in dresses/wigs trying to pull that shit though. Like, at least fucking shave. Girls with PCOS do it...

[Cecily]

I would refuse to just because I am not going to play to their delusions.
That's easy to say, but if you insisted on using male pronouns on Carmen here, you'd be the delusional one.

http://i.imgur.com/SKrmRKt.jpg

[katrik]

Yeah, you guys know I pass well. When my family and I go out and have dinner and purposefully mis pronoun me, they make themselves look foolish. People suck.

[Uuruk]

So who's up for some meatspin?

[Big_Japan]

don't see what the big deal is about calling a biological male by female pronouns. Makes muh dick pretty hard when they request it.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

don't see what the big deal is about calling a biological male by female pronouns. Makes muh dick pretty hard when they request it.

Yeah but that's because you're a FUCKING DAMNIT I HATE THIS FAMILY FRIENDLY BULLSHIT.

[Uthgaard]

so basically you're still banging a butt

I was gonna make a gay joke, butt fuck it.

JK how you folks doing with your hormones since we talked last?

[katrik]

I was gonna make a gay joke, butt fuck it.

JK how you folks doing with your hormones since we talked last?

Same old I guess. Been like 4 or 5 years now. Waist & ass looking better and better as time goes on. My muscle & body strength is totally gone. Can't do anything I used to could. Boring, typical results. I'm not dead from breast cancer or blood clots yet, so that's a plus.

[daasgoot]

i have nothing constructive or entertaining to say in regards to OP or thread discussion.

have a good day

[JayN]

its long over due to put a tranny on our money

http://westernjournalismcom.c.presscdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/WCJ-images-10-Caitlyn-913x512.jpg

so amazing it is

[deathpanel]

Transgenders now have asspenis hybrid vaginas wooo yes we can progress nevermind police state economic collapse jade helm huge unexplained craters 4th year of kunark. Your elitist overlords praise u for making thier mind control schemes thatmuch easier

[iruinedyourday]

Lol you guys are so boring you make threads about the Kardashians.

0/10

[MEGANS LAW]

Same old I guess. Been like 4 or 5 years now. Waist & ass looking better and better as time goes on. My muscle & body strength is totally gone. Can't do anything I used to could. Boring, typical results. I'm not dead from breast cancer or blood clots yet, so that's a plus.

Funny you mention, no muscle/body strength. I've done HRT in clinic before and that's a big complaint.

"I wanna be a woman but now I can't open any jars and can't lift anything!"

It's weird.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Lol you guys are so boring you make threads about the Kardashians.

0/10

Shut the fuck up little man.

[Big_Japan]

Transgenders now have asspenis hybrid vaginas wooo yes we can progress nevermind police state economic collapse jade helm huge unexplained craters 4th year of kunark. Your elitist overlords praise u for making thier mind control schemes thatmuch easier

accelerationism is the only way forward buddy, the sophistication of our propaganda apparatus has long since passed the point of no return. It's a lot like brave new world, but with more assvagina sex mutants. And the best "soma" they could come up with is shitty old marijuana but weaponized.

Just wait until we can hook our brains into the machine and harmlessly simulate tentacle rape and vivisection, and people start the push for two consenting adults' right to agree for one to sell themself into sexual slavery. Things are gonna get sicker than any fiction author has ever been able to put to page and get published. If you think pumping hummus up your ass (or rats to the face for that matter) is the worst they'll be doing in GITMO and our near-future domestic reeducation camps then, you surely lack imagination

[Cecily]

Lol you guys are so boring you make threads about the Kardashians.

0/10

http://i.imgur.com/2oq49KB.png

[Cecily]

And... Shapiro filed assault charges. Good.

http://i.imgur.com/hcfI32Ul.png

[katrik]

accelerationism is the only way forward buddy, the sophistication of our propaganda apparatus has long since passed the point of no return. It's a lot like brave new world, but with more assvagina sex mutants. And the best "soma" they could come up with is shitty old marijuana but weaponized.

Just wait until we can hook our brains into the machine and harmlessly simulate tentacle rape and vivisection, and people start the push for two consenting adults' right to agree for one to sell themself into sexual slavery. Things are gonna get sicker than any fiction author has ever been able to put to page and get published. If you think pumping hummus up your ass (or rats to the face for that matter) is the worst they'll be doing in GITMO and our near-future domestic reeducation camps then, you surely lack imagination

YES. This is what I will call myself now. Assvagina sex mutant. Hahaha.

[Rararboker]

Women =/= being so pathetic you can't lift 30 lb.

Learn something and quit being pathetic. (http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2011/07/21/meet-staci-your-new-powerlifting-super-hero/) Seems like the people who want to be women or claim they are "women on the inside," have no clue what women really are. They just know the stereotypes they learned on tv which run on repeat through their delusionals.

[Uuruk]

So when's Katrik getting an espy?

[katrik]

Women =/= being so pathetic you can't lift 30 lb.

Learn something and quit being pathetic. (http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2011/07/21/meet-staci-your-new-powerlifting-super-hero/) Seems like the people who want to be women or claim they are "women on the inside," have no clue what women really are. They just know the stereotypes they learned on tv which run on repeat through their delusionals.

Women with bulging muscles are gross. I had manly muscles when I started a long time ago. Point is to actually look like a lady, especially not a gross monster lady.

[Swish]

Women with bulging muscles are gross. I had manly muscles when I started a long time ago. Point is to actually look like a lady, especially not a gross monster lady.

It's all about how far you take it, I think some muscle on a girl looks good - toned and then a bit added... but yeah not to the obsessive extreme of having 3% body fat and looking like a dude :p

[Uuruk]

It's all about how far you take it, I think some muscle on a girl looks good - toned and then a bit added... but yeah not to the obsessive extreme of having 3% body fat and looking like a dude :p

http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/female-111.jpg

sfhot

[Cecily]

^ what a woman who can lift 30 lbs and own jars looks like.

[Tenlaar]

Point is to actually look like a lady, especially not a gross monster lady.

But the lady in that article looks in no way monstrous, and looks less like a dude than you do...

[Pokesan]

accelerationism is the only way forward buddy, the sophistication of our propaganda apparatus has long since passed the point of no return. It's a lot like brave new world, but with more assvagina sex mutants. And the best "soma" they could come up with is shitty old marijuana but weaponized.

Just wait until we can hook our brains into the machine and harmlessly simulate tentacle rape and vivisection, and people start the push for two consenting adults' right to agree for one to sell themself into sexual slavery. Things are gonna get sicker than any fiction author has ever been able to put to page and get published. If you think pumping hummus up your ass (or rats to the face for that matter) is the worst they'll be doing in GITMO and our near-future domestic reeducation camps then, you surely lack imagination

vroom vroom

But the lady in that article looks in no way monstrous, and looks less like a dude than you do...

this is clearly false

[katrik]

But the lady in that article looks in no way monstrous, and looks less like a dude than you do...

not rly

[Tenlaar]

Yes, really.

[katrik]

Yes, really.

http://i.imgur.com/Dxla3FD.jpg

[Uthgaard]

Same old I guess. Been like 4 or 5 years now. Waist & ass looking better and better as time goes on. My muscle & body strength is totally gone. Can't do anything I used to could. Boring, typical results. I'm not dead from breast cancer or blood clots yet, so that's a plus.

So do you think you wind up with less muscle tone than women start with or does it kinda average out?

Also, what's an espy

[katrik]

I think its an espn thingy. I dont know.

And yes, it averages out over time. Fat goes to different places, especially if you lose the weight and gain it back.

[Uthgaard]

That's kind of impressive that hormones make that big of a difference on an already developed adult. Are they finally getting rid of some of the hoops you mentioned people have to jump through?

[Big_Japan]

YES. This is what I will call myself now. Assvagina sex mutant. Hahaha.

nah girl, hold out for the buccal lining surgery as advised in this thread. I always preferred a good blowjob anyway.

Also, all trolling aside you seem to be an attractive enough female that cyborg siren might be a more apt description in your case than "sex mutant".

[Uthgaard]

I could get down with the cyborg deal. If you want I could implant a hydraulic vaginal sphincter

[katrik]

That's kind of impressive that hormones make that big of a difference on an already developed adult. Are they finally getting rid of some of the hoops you mentioned people have to jump through?

I understand that I am very blessed to look the way that I do. Some folks have to work alot harder/have more procedures done.

[katrik]

nah girl, hold out for the buccal lining surgery as advised in this thread. I always preferred a good blowjob anyway.

Also, all trolling aside you seem to be an attractive enough female that cyborg siren might be a more apt description in your case than "sex mutant".

Sex mutant sounds alot more fun.