7K to spend on a paladin to make a big impact, what should I buy?

[trist4n]

I've already got my paladin fairly well geared. He's a dwarf with the following items:

Full set of plate
2x 4ac 4hp rings
Crested MM Shield
Sword of the Morning | Nagavant blade (or whatever it is, the cheap but decent 2hs)


My question to you is, how should I spend I spend 7k on this char to make a big impact? With that in mind, I am nervous to buy an FBSS right now because I am thinking they are going to drop in value big time once Vel comes out. Thoughts?

[Itap]

AC/HP items, your job is to stay alive. I wouldn't worry too much about haste atm, since you will be keeping your aggro in groups via spells.

You can get all DW pieces (minus BP and legs) for about 1800-2k. Thats 95 AC. Thats 43 AC more if you replaced the plate pieces with the DW.

Swap out the Crested Shield for a Clay Guardian, 25AC + 50HP for around 500pp.

Pick up a couple Diamondine Earrings (although the price of these may change when Velious is released).

Other than that, go to the wiki and search equipment by class. You can filter through the items by stat, makes things easymode

[Daldaen]

I suggest against Diamondine Earrings, wait 3 weeks and get Orc Fang.

Also, consider 5/55 HP rings. Possible to wait for 6/65 rings but those are going to be like 500pp each instead of the 250 the 5/55s go for.

[Itap]

I suggest against Diamondine Earrings, wait 3 weeks and get Orc Fang.

Also, consider 5/55 HP rings. Possible to wait for 6/65 rings but those are going to be like 500pp each instead of the 250 the 5/55s go for.

I agree on the earrings, there just isn't a lot of options in his price range. Perhaps just grab a couple Platinum Bloodstone Earrings (http://wiki.project1999.com/Platinum_Bloodstone_Earring) for ~300pp until Velious is released.

[Thiefboy777]

Wear two Brass earrings for the next few weeks, you'll never notice a difference.

[Danth]

If you ever solo, you want that haste. If you *only* group, you can live without it.

Most Deepwater pieces are in the 500P range, essentially just above their vendor price. Get a DW helm and bracer, at least--you'll want those two pieces even in Velious and they're not going to get much cheaper since under about 400P folks will just vendor them instead. Stick with the 4/45 rings until either the 5/55 rings plummet or you upgrade to 6/65 rings. Stick with crap ear slots or nothing until Orc Fang. If you don't figure on raiding much you won't go wrong buying a Sarnak Battle Shield. For non-raiders that thing's hard to replace even in Velious.

Otherwise, if you can already do the job you want to do, just sit on the rest of the cash until Velious has been open for a bit. If it's burning a hole in your pocket, buying a jboot MQ might not be a bad option to consider.

Danth

[maskedmelon]

Not much on the low end that you can pick up that will make a huge difference.

I'd hold off on the SotM until your damage cap is increase at L10. Until then stick with a faster weapon, even a sword of sky fire will perform better up to that point and you can just sell it when you are done. If you are already past L10 then you can ignore this section.

I'd grab a baton of faith for once your Dmg cap is lifted for solo also and a ghoulbane for 20's when it starts proccing, because it is fun.

[williestargell]

You have 7k and no listed haste item...that makes FBSS a no brainer.

Haste > all other stats for a melee, even a paladin.

Despite your nervousness, I can't believe anyone is not urging the haste item. Haste is CRITICAL. It is the single most definitive item/stat in EQ. People solo faster with haste, get more group exp, and raiding success is virtually defined by the haste levels of the raid members. There's a reason that big guilds continue to be interested in dragons - to keep the haste flowing into them and not into others who might potentially catch up.

7k spent elsewhere will have a small fraction of the impact on your ability that haste does.

FBSS will not drop significantly in velious imo. Less people will farm them as they are farming elsewhere in velious so the supply will still be less than the demand.

[Kender]

price will drop on fbss once silver chitin hand wraps start being sold. but the price wont drop fast and will probably still stay in the 4k range minimum down the track.

invest in haste now if you are playing now. if you are not playing until velious then wait

[webrunner5]

You have 7k and no listed haste item...that makes FBSS a no brainer.

Haste > all other stats for a melee, even a paladin.

Despite your nervousness, I can't believe anyone is not urging the haste item. Haste is CRITICAL. It is the single most definitive item/stat in EQ. People solo faster with haste, get more group exp, and raiding success is virtually defined by the haste levels of the raid members. There's a reason that big guilds continue to be interested in dragons - to keep the haste flowing into them and not into others who might potentially catch up.

7k spent elsewhere will have a small fraction of the impact on your ability that haste does.

FBSS will not drop significantly in velious imo. Less people will farm them as they are farming elsewhere in velious so the supply will still be less than the demand.

I agree Willie. God knows a Pally needs all the damn help they can get with DPS. :eek::D

[Pint]

Haste is over rated as a paladin, if you're not soloing then don't worry about it. Buy some jboots.

[Jimjam]

if you are really concerned about loosing plat on an fbss consider a Tink bag!

Switch it out for haste when you can get schw or cheaper fbss down the line.

[Itap]

Haste will make a minimal difference for a pally in a group setting. Their DPS is sub par to begin with, and they rely on spells for aggro. I would rather spend the money on survivability.

Of course, if you plan to solo then haste will help. Just remember, were not sure on what Velious will do to the mid level haste items currently out (FBSS, SoTDB).

[webrunner5]

Haste will make a minimal difference for a pally in a group setting. Their DPS is sub par to begin with, and they rely on spells for aggro. I would rather spend the money on survivability.

I would Not worry too much about being able to "survive". Hell you are a healer, and have LoH, and you will probably have a "healer" in the group". :eek:

Yeah you need to be able to hold agro , but no one wants to beat on a Trash mobs for 5 minutes to kill it either for a lack of DPS. You sort of are the DPS like it or not. Not every group is going to have a Epic Rogue, and a Epic Monk in it helping out. :p

So I am still pushing for Haste like it or not. If you are worried about losing 5K on a FBSS, well than re roll a Mage and go naked.

If you think equipping a Tank is the cheap way to go well good luck with that. :eek:

[webrunner5]

Haste will make a minimal difference for a pally in a group setting. Their DPS is sub par to begin with, and they rely on spells for aggro. I would rather spend the money on survivability.

I would Not worry too much about being able to "survive". Hell you are a healer, and have LoH, and you will probably have a "healer" in the group" also. :eek:

Yeah you need to be able to hold agro , but no one wants to beat on a Trash mob for 5 minutes to kill it either for a lack of DPS. You sort of are the DPS like it or not. Not every group is going to have a Epic Rogue, and a Epic Monk in it helping out. :p

So I am still pushing for Haste like it or not. If you are worried about losing 5K on a FBSS, well than re roll a Mage and go naked.

If you think equipping a Tank is the cheap way to go well good luck with that. :eek:

[Pint]

Haste is over rated as a paladin, if you're not soloing then don't worry about it. Buy some jboots.

[wormed]

Jboots is the best investment you'll ever make on any character. I personally didn't get haste until I was 46 or 47 when I went to PoSky with Asgard and got one of those Belt of Virtue's. Most aggro is done through spells, haste is just icing. You really shouldn't be soloing as a Paladin anyway at that point, imo.

[Itap]

Jboots is the best investment you'll ever make on any character. I personally didn't get haste until I was 46 or 47 when I went to PoSky with Asgard and got one of those Belt of Virtue's. Most aggro is done through spells, haste is just icing. You really shouldn't be soloing as a Paladin anyway at that point, imo.


grats on 60 :p

[wormed]

grats on 60 :p

thank you. :)

[Invalid_Bard]

Skull shaaped barbute 1k
Armor of Ro pieces are better imo then DW pieces. The boots have 35 ho, greaves have stamina. Get yourself 5 ac 55 hp rings, sword of the morning. Don't sweat a haste item just yet, you're a Paladin, your dps is shit, period. If you have the cash to spare get a hooded black cloak as well. As far as earrings, go for the stamina ones as well as the stamina neck (golden opal amulet)? After that save up for raw hp and resist gear like an earring of essence and a solid ranged item like an idol of the thorned.

[williestargell]

jboots might be the only thing that would justify the spending over haste.

But jboots are so easily replaced on the cheap by sow pots. And if you're going to group you're only going to need speed to get to-from the dungeon, so if you buy a port simply get a sow from the dial a port druid.

[kaev]

jboots might be the only thing that would justify the spending over haste.

But jboots are so easily replaced on the cheap by sow pots. And if you're going to group you're only going to need speed to get to-from the dungeon, so if you buy a port simply get a sow from the dial a port druid.

Outdoor dungeons like Unrest, Mistmoore, CoM, & KC beg to differ with you about the need for speed. Paladin can pull well if he learns how, run-speed buffs are very helpful when pulling (super valuable for lull pullers if you're at a place where it's feasible to zone on a critical fail), and you don't always have a SoW caster in group. I completely agree with SoW pot suggestion tho, you will not come close to consuming 7k worth of SoW pots using them only for travel & pulling when no SoW caster is available.

[Pint]

this is terrible advice, buy jboots and do not rely on sow potions.

[Daldaen]

this is terrible advice, buy jboots and do not rely on sow potions.

I own 0 pairs of JBoots and I can't say I've ever died from lacking them, and any time I need to travel I always have a SoW potion so I'll get there 20% faster than a JBoot wearer and when I go indoors my runspeed buff lasts twice as long.

SoW Potions rock socks. No reason to get JBoots unless you can't hold 2-3 potions.

[kaev]

this is terrible advice, buy jboots and do not rely on sow potions.

Right back at you. I'd say your earlier dismissal of haste as "overrated" is the most terrible advice in this thread.

I used SoW pots for a long time on most of my characters and loved the shit out of them because they're cheap, faster than jboots (if you're higher than L9), and can be used to buff somebody else. My cleric still carries a 10-charge just to be able to buff a puller when necessary.

The convenience of jboots (unlimited charges so no resupply) is very nice, but it's pure convenience and not a necessity.

The insta-click non-targeted junkbuff aspect of jboots is fantastic in certain content at high level, but that's far from important at lower level. When I raided I valued the junkbuff more than the convenience.

JBoots MQ goes for 7k-ish these days, that's well over 700 charges of SoW if you vendor your 10-charge when it has 1 charge left. Most of your SoW should come from groupmates & others, so effectively you could rely on SoW pots forever unless you play in content where the junkbuff is important (basicly a fraction of outdoor raid content.)

[williestargell]

I can list a couple dozen deaths that I'd have taken, some of them in very bad places like the center of the plane of fear or skyfire, had it not been for a jboot clicky. Even if you put your sow behind other buffs it can get dispelled while you're pulling/kiting/training and you can't exactly stop to cast in that situation.

So even though I'd recommend sow pots at low level, eventually I do think everyone should own jboots, just think you need to buy your haste first.

[Jimjam]

Is there that much that will catch up with you when running diagonally that won't reach you while using Jboots (ignoring encumberance)?

I thought things were basically sow speed (so diagonal/jboots won't save you but diagonal sow will) or normal speed, with a few exceptions such as scarabs?

[Destron]

What does a 1 charge sow pot sell for to a vendor?

[Pint]

lots of ppl posting lots of words. you do not need a haste item, you will never regret purchasing jboots. if you have 7k and you dont want to regret not having 7k, then do not buy incremental and unnecessary upgrades that all end up replaceable on the cheap in 2 weeks. buy something you will always use and always appreciate having... buy jboots.

[Xaanka]

people telling this guy to buy fbss are bad, ignore them.

get jboots if you don't want to farm them for yourself. it's most of your budget, but the biggest impact you could make on your character with this plat. spend the rest on slot filler jewelcrafter jewelry, a cheap HBC, a cheap SSB, or really anything cheap that gives health. or save for another big ticket item. If you're on red server, suggestion changes to jboots + spyglass + gobby earring.

if you solo as a paladin a lot (lol) and you want more damage, get a weapon that isn't shit before even thinking about haste.

btw you can get a free nodrop haste belt from forager/hunter cycle while doing your sebilis key

just get those jboots, save the rest, and get yourself leveled for planar raids. as a pally you'll gear up in nodrops quickly with zero loot competition. you would be a fool to waste your limited funds on droppable items you're going to replace before you even hit level 50, that will tank in value in a month.

[Nuggie]

Both sides of the arguments are valid. But given his budget I would advise the jboots AFTER the prices have come down when the velious haste items come out. You'll likely get the sky haste belt not long after blues get tough to solo anyways.

Like it or not your dps is going to sucks before and after haste.

[Madbad]

Pint knows his pallys.

You would be stupid to dismiss his advice.

[wormed]

kaev brought up a good point that there are many outdoor dungeons on your route to 60. City of Mist and KC will be your bread and butter post 40+. Having jboots is the best investment not just for the speed of it, but for an instant click to reset GCD.

Stun -> Jboots -> Flash of Light. Your enchanter/cleric will never experience pain.

EDIT: However, I agree with Pint. Jboots is the best investment you can make. Or you can be like me and camp that shit in SRo, experience a whole side of P99 that sucks ass where you're competing with 5000 poopsocking assholes that don't care about you or if you're new to the server! FTE, baby! Ambit, you suck.

[Kowalski]

I think jBoots is a good idea, but only if you do the quest yourself. Would buying some resist gear be a viable option?

[Farzo]

get jboots, jboots will save ur arse more often then a haste item (coz lets face it paladins dont solo ).

also dont get fbss wait till schw become so common that they are 3-4k in addition it frees up ur belt slot for a nice belt

[Arteker]

get jboots, jboots will save ur arse more often then a haste item (coz lets face it paladins dont solo ).

also dont get fbss wait till schw become so common that they are 3-4k in addition it frees up ur belt slot for a nice belt

soloed mine to 60 even before they launched red server .