View Full Version : What happen to Classic EQ2?
DeadlyReza
07-13-2015, 06:15 PM
**Sorry if this isn't classic EQ enough, please feel free to move it!!**
I played the game when it first came out, but I really didn't pay much attention because WoW came out like 3 weeks later...
I do here people speak fondly of it, and was wondering if any players from here can tell me what get nerfed and were there any big changes like EQ 1 Classic? Or was it just doomed from the start?
I was thinking of giving it a go and want to know what I'm in for :rolleyes:
I guess to turn this into a discusssion.
1. Did you move on to EQ2 when it launched?
2. When?
3. Was a short lived career?
4. How is the game in it's current state?
Laugher
07-13-2015, 06:19 PM
Never moved onto it, a friend and I played for a short bit but did not stay, tried again when f2p came out, seemed cool but did not stay again
*edit* wasn't bad tho
Swish
07-13-2015, 07:19 PM
Yes I played it not on the launch night but a week or so in, I lasted the month's inclusive game time and then quit.
Told it recently here but again for the sake of this thread, they had a system in place where if someone in your group died that everyone in the group would lose XP - with the idea that it would promote teamwork. Only takes one idiot to start ruining things though and the tears flow fast... great trolling potential, they took it out quite soon after ;)
I didn't like the "teamwork" wheel or whatever it was, where if you hit a certain skill, then your tank hit another skill, and another member did something else it would trigger bonus damage or melee haste or something.
Rangers were actually rangers though, they got to fire arrows rather than stand there with a sword pretending to be a tank ;)
Briscoe
07-13-2015, 08:53 PM
I played at launch, and I enjoyed early tradeskilling. There was a substantial degree of interdependency at first, which was challenging but also fostered a strong culture amongst the more active crafters. Similar to the eventual elimination of exp debt, they also gradually cut down on the interdependency and challenge of crafting over time.
DeadlyReza
07-13-2015, 10:39 PM
Hmmm I might be willing to give it a go then, I just need to pretend its a brand new game and just play it without trying to compare :P that wont be easy, but keep the discussions coming!
this teamwork wheel thing sounds like what they are doing with EQ next, is it still implemented?
I guess to keep this EQ Classic related, I want to make sure it still has the dependency aspect of porters and such.
But were there any similarities of the likes that killed EQ? like no need for support (mercs) and like the new bazaar that kill interaction?
Bboboo
07-13-2015, 11:20 PM
I'll never know if EQ2 was a good or bad game because I was a dumb kid/don't really remember much.
Although from what I do remember EQ2 looked like complete garbage. Those character models are worse than Luclin character models. The world looks like the Star Wars prequels had a baby with B-movie CGI and then that baby threw up and shit himself.
To think I had to buy my first graphics card because of that game.
Nuggie
07-13-2015, 11:23 PM
I was boycotting EQ2 and WoW because they destroyed my live guild. I was mad, bad, and sad.
Pscottdai
07-13-2015, 11:24 PM
take all of you thoughts of EQ, other than a very small amount of the places/lore, and throw them out of the window for EQ2 - they are nothing like each other.
Buellen
07-14-2015, 02:04 AM
EQ2 was an ok game.
the crafting part of the game was dam good , later dumbed down as other person said.
Lore wise EQ2 was set i think 200 years later than current eq at time of eq 2 release but that did not fit in with EQ1 expansion plans so they changed it all up. At least that is what i remember.
DeadlyReza
07-14-2015, 03:26 AM
Crazy lol would love to just check it out
Deadmantis
07-14-2015, 06:26 AM
EQ2 at launch was a lot of fun for me. Even enjoyed the first couple expansions. Did some raiding and got geared up, made some alts, but eventually moved on to WoW where my real life friends were.
Went back when it became F2P and they changed a bunch of stuff like starting cities, added new playable race and mercs. Essentially dumbing it down even more.
I thought the lore was that it was 500 years after EQ, set in the future after Luclin explodes and causes a catastrophe. But then I read somewhere that it was all a dream or an alternate reality or some shit. Not sure what they were thinking...
Flexin
07-14-2015, 06:49 AM
The current state of EQ2 is awful, but outside of the Launch + first 2 months of the game, EQ2 was probably the absolute best MMO of all time until Velious released. Merc's killed the game again, adding in a bunch of flavor races, cash shops, flying mounts, "cataclysm", arena and arena gear, daily quests etc just made it a terrible and different WoW clone.
That being said the TLE beta has been surprisingly good. I played EQ2 for 6 years and find myself still seeing instances and zones I've never seen before on the new beta server. The pvp servers are fun and they have been constantly releasing fixes (even on a Sunday at 2 am). There are some things they cant fix, item revamps and things like that making stats so inflated, but even with that some of the content is surprisingly still difficult. They've tweaked exp; you basically have to group to level, and there's just a ton of shit to do.
I'd recommend the TLE servers once they come live, DBG seems to actually be listening, and the game really will give you a ton of hours worth of content. You can mentor friends and go back down to lower level content, there's housing and tradeskilling with tens of thousands of recipes. Citizenship quests, betrayal quests, upgrading your spells, there's just so much to do even if some of it is meaningless in this day and age of the game.
Graphics hold up surprisingly well to modern day mmo's and looks really good on extreme quality. Gameplay wise it's smooth and doesn't feel clunky at all. I'd recommend it to anyone who played EQ1; seeing Rivervale as it is in EQ2 and finally getting to do a bixie bee hive dungeon and just the multitude of random shit was fun, but clearly I'm biased and rambling at this point.
edit: I'm talking about the new progression servers if anyone is confused about my comments on the current state of the game.
Pscottdai
07-14-2015, 07:24 AM
may give the progression server a try - enjoyed my time in EQ2
Furniture
07-15-2015, 07:59 AM
I thought eq2 was great at launch. I remember being in full groups and wiping was possible. I played maybe two months. Years later around the expansion that added gfay I played again and it was obvious that the game has been wowified.
The game is still good and has always been overshadowed by wow.
The crafting system was pretty awesome. You could die with exp debt during a creating session. I remember my blacksmith almost burning to death all the time
Bigtokes
07-15-2015, 09:35 AM
Played it from the start. I hated locked combat and that you could not kite. Then I played in the Nagafen pvp server. Was cool..able to steam roll groups of blues etc. Then they nerfed the way resists worked and it just got shitty.
stavio
07-15-2015, 09:49 AM
Some of the things I didn't like that turned me off from EQ2 classic was the way you advanced classes, I hated having to lvl to 30-40 (cant remember) before I could become a necro. Also like Bigtokes said, the locked combat was terrible and the lack of kiting was a huge bummer.
I will admit I enjoyed the crap out of crafting.
The game released in a bad time, in the WoW era. I remember after promoting to a summoner or whatever the class was before necro, I decided to give wow a try and never turned back to EQ2.
Also to mention the game was extremely taxing on computers during that time, as opposed to say wow.
Millburn
07-15-2015, 11:11 AM
EQ2 is a great game, it's a bit clunky and it's not all that pleasing on the eyes but holy shit does it ever have content.
A handful of us Faceless Order guys are going to be rolling an EQ2 guild on the PvE TLP server opening up on the 21st if anybody wants to join in on the fun hit me up via a PM here. We'll get you hooked up.
Paleman
07-15-2015, 11:58 AM
progression servers are already fucked. no exile, a bunch of fucking retards talking about why something shouldnt be in the game when it should be for fake reasons, or unfounded ones.
Also I am pretty sure at this point the devs are saying that things have been voted off because they are too fucking lazy to get it done.
Bigtokes
07-15-2015, 02:14 PM
Some of the things I didn't like that turned me off from EQ2 classic was the way you advanced classes, I hated having to lvl to 30-40 (cant remember) before I could become a necro. Also like Bigtokes said, the locked combat was terrible and the lack of kiting was a huge bummer.
I will admit I enjoyed the crap out of crafting.
The game released in a bad time, in the WoW era. I remember after promoting to a summoner or whatever the class was before necro, I decided to give wow a try and never turned back to EQ2.
Also to mention the game was extremely taxing on computers during that time, as opposed to say wow.
I had a beast of a computer and EQ2 brought it to its knees. Could never play on high settings. WoW simply crushed it though. As time passed, more and more people left for WoW.
Thiefboy777
07-15-2015, 04:06 PM
I played EQ2 at launch, was pretty fun. I played a Berserker before they got nerfed it was very OP best group tank, best snap agro, and top dps it was fun while it lasted.
Moved to WoW after the combat changes nerfed berserkers to normalcy, had a lot of fun there too in vanilla .
Leeyuuduu
07-16-2015, 02:13 AM
It was a great MMO from around 1-2 years after launch up until Velious + f2p rolled in. f2p ain't inherently bad but the way they did it was so greedy and money whoreish it completely turned me off from the game. That and the fact that now you have to TRY to die in PvE and try hard. The game got dumbed down completely, and even crafting become useless because all the coolest furniture, armor, etc could only be bought with real life cash.
Happy
07-16-2015, 07:56 PM
Daybreak games is releasing Time locked EQ2 Progression servers next week!
https://forums.station.sony.com/eq2...ng-soon.560925/
https://forums.daybreakgames.com/eq...june-16.560924/
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