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[Ragnaros]

" 60 wood elf ranger 500 Takes account. Tired of sitting on it. Fully geared. Sword of rile, fungi, epics, guise of deceiver etc. Comes with epic rogue account on same emu 50+ de mask j boots peg cloak ot hammer skean

[Colgate]

sounds like exed

[Gzaz]

Who's this rag

[SamwiseRed]

Exed was 59 last time he was on.

[Swish]

Exed was 59 last time he was on.

just after putting that advert up i bet

[Uton]

Interesting that you are on that site rag... not shopping roght? Just performing consumer protection?

[Casey VII]

Exed might very well be undisputed king of good decisions

[SamwiseRed]

This aint Bob is it?

[Uton]

Exed was pking news in CB the other day. Assume rl meltdown led to dlvl to mid teens

[Ragnaros]

i think we all know who it is

[SamwiseRed]

Whoever it is lol at 500 bucks for a ranger account

[Colgate]

sounds like exed + cell 2 me

[heartbrand]

i think we all know who it is

We sure do. That's Exed. Critical thinking doesn't seem to be your strong suit.

[Bazia]

doesnt have sky bow shits worth about 10 kitkat bars on a good day

[Ragnaros]

We sure do. That's Exed. Critical thinking doesn't seem to be your strong suit.

no shit you moron

[heartbrand]

Don't get too rustled don't want you violating your parole

[Ragnaros]

never been arrested

[Took]

lol hb with the slam dunks this fine afternoon.

[Tassador]

Where do you even buy eq emulated shit love that you guys are so sick.

[Pumped]

who would pay 1 cent for anything here?

any char you buy will probably be publicly outed anyways

community is too small

[Ragnaros]

lol hb with the slam dunks this fine afternoon.

hows job hunting going
kek

[Took]

Velly in 3 weeks. Got all the unemployment and food stamps I need to ride out the coming winter.

[Sirban]

Thats not a bad deal

[Sirban]

One days work irl to get about 6 months of eq work

[Strange]

to add,he was "giving" away his ranger,and now claims to know nothing about exed being delvled and pking in cb/lfay/mm area

reminds me when other people post threads about giving away their accounts for free,most likely a cover up to sell them.

Exed response to his toon being delvled "exed is delvled? news to me,idc"

[ExedOut]

I love you all.

[ExedOut]

De leveled exed bc I want to grief new players off the box. Check the ips. I don't think my sack can stretch anymore with all this deadweight.

[Farzo]

One days work irl to get about 6 months of eq work

Yah I know right, I almost posted the same comment but didn't want to come off sounding like an arsehole.

(Not that u did anyhow.)

[Sriracha]

Fake RMT info, posting info instead of petitioning

ban OP for trolling. troll accounts are not allowed!

[Efwan]

Fyi, not exed, been on his account no rogue on there also not 60 and no guise iirc. Next!

[fiegi 8.0]

thought rag and exed were tight??

[Susvain2]

i think they were pals until Ragnaros deleted Exed and shared his account info with the whole server

[fiegi 8.0]

i think they were pals until Ragnaros deleted Exed and shared his account info with the whole server

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q699/fictionfrenzy3/GIFs/wtf2_zpsdf922240.gif

[Exed]

http://i.imgur.com/Ge5Dzxe.jpg

[Exed]

i think they were pals until Ragnaros deleted Exed and shared his account info with the whole server

[Efwan]

^ is that rag?? Lol

[Susvain2]

yea it is, he showed us that and more one day when he was feeling confident i guess

lol

[Grimjaw]

jesus christ hike them socks down boy. also colgate banned lol

[Tiggles]

Why is his leg hair much darker than his arm hair and eby is his fly down?

9/10 would play EQ with.

[Bazia]

rags head is large or his body is tiny

not sure which one

[Farzo]

http://i.imgur.com/Ge5Dzxe.jpg

Its no 1der he leaves all the shit talk to online.

[Itap]

YIKES

[Eslade]

I wonder if those earrings add +5 sv women?

[bubur]

reminds me of

https://ioneglobalgrind.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/wenn20496555_0.jpg

in a funny way.

interesting development

[Susvain2]

lol i think his body is just tiny, makes the head look abnormal

[iruinedyourday]

working hard on that high t beta club acceptance

http://i.imgur.com/pbPBRmU.jpg

[bubur]

http://www.t-nation.com/img/photos/04-091-feature/image002.jpg

[deathpanel]

lol @ making fun he actually looks somewhat normal

[daasgoot]

betting his mom picked out and purchased his outfit

[PhelanKA]

lol @ making fun he actually looks somewhat normal

It looks like the discarded husk that Elon Musk crawled out of to begin his reign as the Emperor of Mankind.

[Strange]

sports,not even once,

do u even lift bro

[Ragnaros]

Feels good to not be stupid enough to give out my irl picture rofl

[Efwan]

U sure? Lol

[Colgate 2.0]

i remember that day in empire teamspeak when everyone was posting their RL pictures

ragnaros showed us that photo, and within 30 seconds it was posted on the forums

i figured out who it was that posted it, and for like two days straight ragnaros raged begged me to let him kill the guy at a raid then kick him out of the guild

not sure why someone would get so heated and upset over a picture that isn't even theirs?

[Drakaris]

i remember that day in empire teamspeak when everyone was posting their RL pictures

ragnaros showed us that photo, and within 30 seconds it was posted on the forums

i figured out who it was that posted it, and for like two days straight ragnaros raged begged me to let him kill the guy at a raid then kick him out of the guild

not sure why someone would get so heated and upset over a picture that isn't even theirs?

It's called TROLLING...

You do it alot; so much in fact your forum account is BANNED.

[Susvain2]

Rags showed 3 pictures all with that same kid in it, would be a tad bit weird if it wasn't him.

Rags has also petitioned people who've posted that picture on the forums to have the mods remove it, they only do that if they get confirmation its legit

But ya gotta respect Rags new strategy, pretend it's not him and not petition the gm's this time, bold move cotton lets see if it pays off

[Ragnaros]

Ive been cammed up with Agatha in the dankhouse, come visit sometime
Its a shame im getting credit for this random persons picture

[Drakaris]

Ive been cammed up with Agatha in the dankhouse, come visit sometime
Its a shame im getting credit for this random persons picture

He speaks truth...

[bubur]

true though i pictured u a lot fatter

[Pikrib]

Rags showed 3 pictures all with that same kid in it, would be a tad bit weird if it wasn't him.

Rags has also petitioned people who've posted that picture on the forums to have the mods remove it, they only do that if they get confirmation its legit

But ya gotta respect Rags new strategy, pretend it's not him and not petition the gm's this time, bold move cotton lets see if it pays off

At least he has clean shorts. Unlike someone we know. :eek:

http://www.project1999.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5177&stc=1&d=1403720521

[Pikrib]

working hard on that high t beta club acceptance

http://i.imgur.com/pbPBRmU.jpg

:D

Damn finally a funny post. GJ kid.

Only took ya 3000 tries.

[Smedy]

At least he has clean shorts. Unlike someone we know. :eek:

http://www.project1999.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5177&stc=1&d=1403720521

what the fuck is this

[Pikrib]

I believe those are urine stained shorts Smedy.

[hatelore]

http://i.imgur.com/Ge5Dzxe.jpg

LOL who is this never and what's ip with the tube socks and oversized watch?!?!?!









Lawl

[Ragnaros]

I wonder if this poor guy knows his picture is being posted on elf sim forums, where did susvain find this picture anyways

[Nirgon]

Rag

Sig

Fix

Pronto

[deathpanel]

Rag

Sig

Fix

Pronto

LoL nirgon, i thought you actually grew a pair, and stopped playing this server because you realized to be the controlling guild on a 15 year old elf simulator you have to be dirty as fuck in game, and shitting up the forums 24 /7 and resort to doing things IRL that are sad and pathetic. Thought you had an epiphany and was actually proud of you for a moment, BUT NAWWWWW. Your back!

[Nirgon]

I got a pair

Just do not appreciate baseless slander esp from Ragpal

[hatelore]

Lol no wander tubesock wearing oversized watch having rag talks so much shit in an online emulated version of a 16 year old elf sim. Bro do u even lift?!?















Lawl

[Quiet]

Not me :)

[Heebo]

Kinda looks like someone who would have 300+ deaths in elf sim tbh

[Tiggles]

Going to King of Prussia for drinks this Saturday with Rag,Sektor,Ironlion and secrets will report back if is actually the kid in the picture.

[Tapatio]

Haha 80 lb boy having mommy snap a selfie

Cringy

[Pikrib]

LOL who is this never and what's ip with the tube socks and oversized watch?!?!?!









Lawl

Lol no wander tubesock wearing oversized watch having rag talks so much shit in an online emulated version of a 16 year old elf sim. Bro do u even lift?!?















Lawl

Is English your second language or did you not graduate high school?

[hatelore]

Is English your second language or did you not graduate high school?

English is my second language. Do you have a problem with that? Are you going to start making tasteless 911 jokes again to further dishonor our great Country and its people?

[Pikrib]

Did you graduate HS? I want to know if i'm two 4 two.

[Eslade]

I was told there would be no math

[Tapatio]

Try harding two 4 two

[Nirgon]

Thx Raggers

[Sikorsky]

You guys must have short memories. Enough with the RL pictures.

[derpcake]

I was told there would be no math

u should join my new dkp based guild

[Eslade]

You guys must have short memories. Enough with the RL pictures.

I don't understand. if that's not Ragnaros then what's the problem with the picture? are we talking no real life pictures at all? if so, alarti needs to change his forum avatar.

[Bazia]

LAWL

[Sikorsky]

I don't understand. if that's not Ragnaros then what's the problem with the picture? are we talking no real life pictures at all? if so, alarti needs to change his forum avatar.

Its pretty clear what the intent was. Im not going to "rule lawyer" this for you.

[Cheesypoof]

You guys must have short memories. Enough with the RL pictures.

Silorsky please read the RnF forum rules.

2. Post non-p1999 posted RL Pics of other players. SO until a player has posted a RL picture of them or their family on the p99 boards then their photographs had better NOT show up in photoshops or ANY form on these boards.

You can post peoples RL pics if they posted it first.

Posting Rags RL pic is a Ban

Posting Susvains RL pic is not

[Tapatio]

My rl view:

http://i.imgur.com/qdWuZZ1.jpg

[Smedy]

susvains pic was the 100lb stick trying to flex with stained underwear? lol

[LoliPops]

http://static.fjcdn.com/large/pictures/1d/f0/1df00e_5489290.jpg

[Vanquisher]

yea that is susvains pic

[derpcake]

do you ever throw paper planes out the window?

i'm from euroland, you know our mud huts only support 1 lvl, but i've always wondered

[Cheesypoof]

My rl view:

http://i.imgur.com/qdWuZZ1.jpg

Go ahead and jump retti. U R a sissy if you don't follow through now.

[Tapatio]

Cringing at that comment

[Ragnaros]

Shrug that isnt me dont care etheir way
At the end of the day i have clean shorts

[Pumped]

pic was deleted : (

[Cheesypoof]

My rl view:

http://i.imgur.com/qdWuZZ1.jpg

After you are done cleaning the windows the womens toilet on the first floor needs plunging.

[Samsung]

After you are done cleaning the windows the womens toilet on the first floor needs plunging.

lmaooo cause hes mexcian

[Genedin]

http://i.imgur.com/MVIOimR.png

[LoliPops]

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/1c/a4/a4/1ca4a48a27096b24c1e5aa41030a0553.jpg

[hammbone]

holy crap, despite all of the warnings ragatha is onto something:

http://www.gametag.com/account/project-1999-accounts-for-sale-4/

These dumb dumbs even LIST their character names! Mindblowing...

[Sosa_Chamberlain]

No sock rockin

[fiegi 8.0]

sherminator

[ExedOut]

Dang I'm so mad. Rag accuses the cleanest whistle on the box of Rmt, someone logs in my forum account and post a pic, now I'm banned. Fuck what am I going to do now.. Oh wait.

[SamwiseRed]

Dang I'm so mad. Rag accuses the cleanest whistle on the box of Rmt, someone logs in my forum account and post a pic, now I'm banned. Fuck what am I going to do now.. Oh wait.

change your pw or have the forum mods ban the forum account. why leave yourself open for vulnerability time after time bro? unless you trollin then carry on :)

[quido]

Why is it the staff bring up "rule lawyering" every time we indicate we want clear rules and consistent enforcement?

[Ella`Ella]

Why is it the staff bring up "rule lawyering" every time we indicate we want clear rules and consistent enforcement?

Because the staff don't actually know the rules or have to abide by them.

One staffer writes a rule, another never bothers to actually read the rule or recognize times the rule has been enforced and then just makes their own rule in place of educating themselves on the initial rule to begin with.

[Eslade]

I would like to announce that I'm George Clooney and that I demand alarti to stop using my picture as his avatar.

thx

[Sosa_Chamberlain]

http://media4.giphy.com/media/13C9Ls0jJOKJLq/giphy.gif

[Sikorsky]

Why is it the staff bring up "rule lawyering" every time we indicate we want clear rules and consistent enforcement?

You shouldn't assume I care about what you want.

[chtulu]

You shouldn't assume I care about what you want.

Look at this guy trying to make a name for himself.

[LoliPops]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-DDCe7b-0reg/UMMaglWVvOI/AAAAAAAADyM/Y7s2g8faH4E/s1600/Maurice-Moss.gif

[chtulu]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-DDCe7b-0reg/UMMaglWVvOI/AAAAAAAADyM/Y7s2g8faH4E/s1600/Maurice-Moss.gif

[heartbrand]

You shouldn't assume I care about what you want.

Really? I don't get why staff here talk down to people. I was always trained as a Guide in EQ that you must always address the players respectfully as you represent the program as a whole.

Is there something really ludicrous about a request that there be a more clearer and written out Guide or Rules to the Project? Is it outrageous to be against the concept of enforcement action, many times based on non written rules that no one knows about? People were suspended for crying out loud for using OOC as OOC, with no rule. How does this make sense?

Rule lawyering is a direct result of there being no rules, and the constant misapplication or different application of them, depending on who is doing the punishment.

But because the project is free I guess we can all go fuck ourselves or something. Maybe I should open up a non profit animal shelter and tell people who donate money to my non profit to fuck themselves and put down their animals.

Inb4 banned for suggesting more clear written rules and a more healthy discourse between staff and player would be a positive.

[Sosa_Chamberlain]

Really? I don't get why staff here talk down to people. I was always trained as a Guide in EQ that you must always address the players respectfully as you represent the program as a whole.

Is there something really ludicrous about a request that there be a more clearer and written out Guide or Rules to the Project? Is it outrageous to be against the concept of enforcement action, many times based on non written rules that no one knows about? People were suspended for crying out loud for using OOC as OOC, with no rule. How does this make sense?

Rule lawyering is a direct result of there being no rules, and the constant misapplication or different application of them, depending on who is doing the punishment.

But because the project is free I guess we can all go fuck ourselves or something. Maybe I should open up a non profit animal shelter and tell people who donate money to my non profit to fuck themselves and put down their animals.

Inb4 banned for suggesting more clear written rules and a more healthy discourse between staff and player would be a positive.

[Ella`Ella]

You shouldn't assume I care about what you want.

Interesting to know that a new staffer/mod has no interest in what someone who has contributed far more to the community than himself wants/thinks. Definitely the most professional response to the question posed.

[Sikorsky]

Really? I don't get why staff here talk down to people. I was always trained as a Guide in EQ that you must always address the players respectfully as you represent the program as a whole.

Is there something really ludicrous about a request that there be a more clearer and written out Guide or Rules to the Project? Is it outrageous to be against the concept of enforcement action, many times based on non written rules that no one knows about? People were suspended for crying out loud for using OOC as OOC, with no rule. How does this make sense?

Rule lawyering is a direct result of there being no rules, and the constant misapplication or different application of them, depending on who is doing the punishment.

But because the project is free I guess we can all go fuck ourselves or something. Maybe I should open up a non profit animal shelter and tell people who donate money to my non profit to fuck themselves and put down their animals.

Inb4 banned for suggesting more clear written rules and a more healthy discourse between staff and player would be a positive.

You're right, I should address Jeremy with the utmost respect, because he has earned it and certainly deserves it.

My comment was directed at Jeremy and Jeremy only, I give no shits about what Jeremy wants / what he thinks he deserves.


Interesting to know that a new staffer/mod has no interest in what someone who has contributed far more to the community than himself wants/thinks. Definitely the most professional response to the question posed.

Jeremy is a positive contributor to this community? Interesting.

[heartbrand]

You're right, I should address Jeremy with the utmost respect, because he has earned it and certainly deserves it.

My comment was directed at Jeremy and Jeremy only, I give no shits about what Jeremy wants / what he thinks he deserves.




Jeremy is a positive contributor to this community? Interesting.

I don't know much about Jeremy's character; I do know he isn't banned, and that he runs a leader board that he pays for out of pocket that many people appreciate. I also don't know what him suggesting that there be clearer rules has to do with anything.

An ad hominem (Latin for "to the man" or "to the person"[1]), short for argumentum ad hominem, means responding to arguments by attacking a person's character, rather than to the content of their arguments. When used inappropriately, it is a fallacy in which a claim or argument is dismissed on the basis of some irrelevant fact or supposition about the author or the person being criticized.[2

The point still seems valid to me. There should be clearer and more defined rules for this Project, particularly red. It seems unfair to suspend people for unwritten rules, that at times are applied completely differently, or not at all.

[Ella`Ella]

If you've been around long enough to look at his contributions over a long enough timeline, I'd absolutely say he's been a positive contributor. Review his history in technical discussion and bug reports, his feedback on server issues, some of his positive suggestions towards end-game on blue and red, and the initiative he takes to moderate a scoreboard for the server.

And, if you're blasting him because of his behavior in RnF, your remarks towards him don't set much of an example. Maybe 'be the change you wish to see' sort of thing.

[Pumped]

You're right, I should address Jeremy with the utmost respect, because he has earned it and certainly deserves it.

My comment was directed at Jeremy and Jeremy only, I give no shits about what Jeremy wants / what he thinks he deserves.




Jeremy is a positive contributor to this community? Interesting.

as a staff member you are not in a position to judge who is positive and who is not positive to this community and should generally be acting like a staff member should.

You may as well go ahead and start banning and stripping people.

[Cheesypoof]

Really? I don't get why staff here talk down to people. I was always trained as a Guide in EQ that you must always address the players respectfully as you represent the program as a whole.

Is there something really ludicrous about a request that there be a more clearer and written out Guide or Rules to the Project? Is it outrageous to be against the concept of enforcement action, many times based on non written rules that no one knows about? People were suspended for crying out loud for using OOC as OOC, with no rule. How does this make sense?

Rule lawyering is a direct result of there being no rules, and the constant misapplication or different application of them, depending on who is doing the punishment.

But because the project is free I guess we can all go fuck ourselves or something. Maybe I should open up a non profit animal shelter and tell people who donate money to my non profit to fuck themselves and put down their animals.

Inb4 banned for suggesting more clear written rules and a more healthy discourse between staff and player would be a positive.

/agree

Rules don't work anyway if the mods don't read/know them. I recently got banned for posting Susvains RL pic which he himself had already posted.

The rule is:
2. Post non-p1999 posted RL Pics of other players. SO until a player has posted a RL picture of them or their family on the p99 boards then their photographs had better NOT show up in photoshops or ANY form on these boards.

Susvain is the one who posted it first here:
http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...+shorts&page=4

This is the second time I got banned for the same reason on the same account by the same GM.

I'm actually kinda rustled.

[Sheriff]

hows job hunting going
kek

What do you do for a living?

[Alarti0001]

You're right, I should address Jeremy with the utmost respect, because he has earned it and certainly deserves it.

My comment was directed at Jeremy and Jeremy only, I give no shits about what Jeremy wants / what he thinks he deserves.


Jeremy is a positive contributor to this community? Interesting.

Have you earned or do you deserve respect and why?

I don't get this attitude. Why not respect someone until they do something to lose respect? Jeremy has been a net positive for both red and blue... either through player engagement or side coding projects and or beta testing. That really isn't in debate here.

These are some very disappointing posts from you :(

[Sikorsky]

My bad fellas! Go ahead and post all the real life pics / whatever you want, I wont get in your way. Enjoy!

[Ragnaros]

Pras Sikorsky, ignore these idiots and enforce the rules. You are doing a great job, in fact you need to ban fiveo aka uuruk for ban evading. Ill make a petition.

[Alarti0001]

Pras Sikorsky, ignore these idiots and enforce the rules. You are doing a great job, in fact you need to ban fiveo aka uuruk for ban evading. Ill make a petition.

Pras rule enforcement!

[LoliPops]

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Maurice-Moss-Eating-Popcorn-The-IT-Crowd.gif

[Kergan]

My bad fellas! Go ahead and post all the real life pics / whatever you want, I wont get in your way. Enjoy!

Probably just need to re-calibrate for r99 a little bit pal. Here, r/l pics are no big deal. Should probably be more concerned with people violating state and federal law, arranging bumfights in front of gyms on valentines day and RMTing via use of wedding registries.

[Samsung]

as a staff member you are not in a position to judge who is positive and who is not positive to this community and should generally be acting like a staff member should.

You may as well go ahead and start banning and stripping people.

lmao

[Sosa_Chamberlain]

http://media2.giphy.com/media/fAK1ZLkvLMyuA/giphy.gif

[Ragnaros]

Please remove my RL picture from sig or face the consequences

Exed posted it on a public forum, shoot the sheriff not the depity

[Ragnaros]

Exed posted it on a public forum, shoot the sheriff not the depity

Deputy.. Jesus

[Samsung]

Pras Sikorsky, ignore these idiots and enforce the rules. You are doing a great job, in fact you need to ban fiveo aka uuruk for ban evading. Ill make a petition.

Petition sent also, thanks Ragnaros for catching this Forum Account Ban Evader.

Gotta go guys reporting Colgate also.

[Darkdeathx]

Why do these people hate empire so much?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcRWnr5lL-k

[heartbrand]

I get that being a Forum Mod / Guide / GM on a volunteer project can be frustrating [though being a Guide in EQ was volunteer as well]. I'm sure you deal with tons of douches and annoying people on a daily basis. It probably puts people on tilt. I also deal with plenty of incredibly frustrating people on a daily basis. But I think a lot of this is self inflicted by P99's strange selective enforcement model with very little clear rule guidelines.

It was genuinely difficult to get suspended or banned on EQ Live. Many simple disputes such as camp disputes, were handled with a guide simply calming the situation down with a warning, and noting the players account in case of further issues. Here, a situation like that would probably result in your account being randomly suspended three to six months later with no warning, and then being told to "read the rules" (which usually don't exist, or weren't even applied the way they were written, or are contained in post #1988 of some RNF topic you never read) or "you know what you did," if you try to petition to find out [if that staff member is even part of the project anymore to tell you].

There's numerous instances of this on P99 where situations escalate in scenarios that they never had to. You just didn't really "feel" a constant guide presence on EQ Live, even though they were actually there in greater number and force than they are here.

Forum Moderation is another great example. What is accomplished by banning Forum Accounts? The player can't Petition anymore, loses access to existing petitions, if they have their Forum Account set up for their EQ Emulator password reset (which effects non p99 servers as well) they've lost that, and all it takes is five minutes to get another Forum Account going. Yes, if someone is posting gore, tranny porn, burn it down, peoples real life info then sure I get it. But banning people from forums for trolling on Red99 guild posts? The same threads that go without moderation for 2 years then suddenly get moderation, then go dormant again? People were eating bans for using the word f*&()t in RNF, now suddenly it's not moderated at all anymore. There just seems to be a heavy handed approach by the P99 Staff to everything, which is ironic, because when you actually need staff in game on R99 for something that's actually serious, you're SOL 99% of the time.

Normally I'd say if you just "play by the rules" and don't do anything dumb, then you should probably be ok, and that this only affects "shit heads." Problem is, time after time I see good, rule abiding players, eat blanket bans because so-and-so logged on their account one time in 2013, or because they made a character named Bankers that used to belong to someone else 4 years ago before they deleted it, or in my case back in 2012, because Mellowyellow petitions you saying you're a RMT kingpin, or because someone like Roarie baits you into LNS violations, or because the Petitioner usually wins 99% of the time much like paypal disputes, etc.

Every time I log onto P99 I wonder if my account will be banned or not, and I barely even play. Everyone's response to everything is "petitioned" or "reported." It's ludicrous.

None of this is really directed necessarily at a specific staff member, I think the vast majority of it could be easily fixed by:

1) Clearer rules

2) A calmer approach to most disputes [obviously hacking, 2boxing etc. still drop the hammer]

3) A consistent approach to forum moderation

4) A toned down rhetoric between player and staff.


Doubtful any of this will happen. There's 1000+ guide apps in the sub-forum. Are there really so few qualified Elf Sim Larpers in those apps? Most of the people I met in the EQ Guide Program were people who just loved Elf-Sim and wanted to hand cookies out to people and make Norrath a beautiful place. Here the feeling I get most of the time is the staff is the Ferguson Police ready to shoot you down.

xoxoxo

[Alarti0001]

Why do these people hate empire so much?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcRWnr5lL-k

Haha damn

[Kergan]

My guess is the reluctance to bring more staff on comes from the fact that nearly 100% of the time they end up getting removed due to heavy abuse of their power.

[Sosa_Chamberlain]

Someone got straight dunked in this thread and his name rhymes with Shmashmorsky

http://media2.giphy.com/media/QO2kTordJV1As/200w.gif

[heartbrand]

My guess is the reluctance to bring more staff on comes from the fact that nearly 100% of the time they end up getting removed due to heavy abuse of their power.


Sure, I could see that happening, as it could on live. But there's some mechanisms you could implement to try to cut down on that such as:

1) Attach the Guide account to his player accounts. If you fuck up, your chars are banned also. [this probably already is the case]. Don't allow people to Guide on a server they play on. Make someone commit to guiding Red or Blue.

2) An actual progression to the program like they had on live. Apprentice Guide, Full Guide, Senior Guide, etc., to really break people in and see who is committed. Making people put significant time in before they can do any power abuses will weed out many people.

3) With a proper staff who oversees, many people can be found who abuse power immediately. On EQ Live each server had a whole system. Apprentice Guides had a mentor Guide they reported to, who reported to a Senior Guide for the server, who then reported to Elder Guides of the program who communicated with GM's. There were daily logs required whenever you logged on your guide character to take any action. Failure to submit your logs could get you dismissed form the program. The logs were routinely audited to make sure guides were being honest about what they were doing.

tl;dr most power abuses while certainly the fault of the person committing it, ultimately fall on those who should be supervising them

[krazyGlue]

Did anyone. Other to read heartbrands post

[Drakaris]

Wall of text because my guild can't follow server rules and are shitting up the server. I'm also a major hypocrite.


Heartbrand, you are totally right. I think the staff should start removing the excessive policing by unbanning all of nizzars accounts that got hit in the second wave of bans. You know, the ones where he got banned for apparently "LEADING A GUILD" using teamspeak and 3rd party forum evidence?

[Ragnaros]

Sure, I could see that happening, as it could on live. But there's some mechanisms you could implement to try to cut down on that such as:

1) Attach the Guide account to his player accounts. If you fuck up, your chars are banned also. [this probably already is the case]. Don't allow people to Guide on a server they play on. Make someone commit to guiding Red or Blue.

2) An actual progression to the program like they had on live. Apprentice Guide, Full Guide, Senior Guide, etc., to really break people in and see who is committed. Making people put significant time in before they can do any power abuses will weed out many people.

3) With a proper staff who oversees, many people can be found who abuse power immediately. On EQ Live each server had a whole system. Apprentice Guides had a mentor Guide they reported to, who reported to a Senior Guide for the server, who then reported to Elder Guides of the program who communicated with GM's. There were daily logs required whenever you logged on your guide character to take any action. Failure to submit your logs could get you dismissed form the program. The logs were routinely audited to make sure guides were being honest about what they were doing.

tl;dr most power abuses while certainly the fault of the person committing it, ultimately fall on those who should be supervising them

Take a break kid

[Guido]

Did anyone. Other to read heartbrands post

lol is this English?

[krazyGlue]

lol is this English?

It's called posting with my iphone6 with 1 hand while I'm working . Some of us got off the titty milk a long time ago

[Kergan]

It's called posting with my iphone6 with 1 hand while I'm working . Some of us got off the titty milk a long time ago

Confirmed retard posts gibberish and blames it on his iPhone.

Sounds legit.

[Sosa_Chamberlain]

lol is this English?

http://media3.giphy.com/media/H4Wp7M38qEFdm/200w_d.gif

[Pumped]

It's called posting with my iphone6 with 1 hand while I'm working . Some of us got off the titty milk a long time ago

dont you drive a train? shouldnt you be driving the train with both hands?

imagine if you crash it i get to see it on the news, Nerd crashes train while posting stupid shit on elf forum

more at 11

[Sheriff]

It's called posting with my iphone6 with 1 hand while I'm working . Some of us got off the titty milk a long time ago

Peas working. Still awaiting Rag's response to my question, "What do you do for a living?". I imagine I'm paying for your ebt card and Internet while I take shit here at my high paying job.

[Pumped]

If he does not work eventually he will realize the error of his ways when he wakes up at 35 with no bank account.

Either way you wont make him "See the light" by calling him out on an elf forum so why bother trying to make fun?

[Guido]

remember the most recent train crash

guess who was driving it while posting on elf forums

derp

[Sheriff]

If he does not work eventually he will realize the error of his ways when he wakes up at 35 with no bank account.

Either way you wont make him "See the light" by calling him out on an elf forum so why bother trying to make fun?

I just saw him giving someone else shit about work and decided to ask a question. That's all.

[hatelore]

My bad fellas! Go ahead and post all the real life pics / whatever you want, I wont get in your way. Enjoy!

That is a real life picture of Ragnaros. He has been suspended numerous times in game and on these forums. And he further mocks the staff by putting that pic as his sig when in the past he has reported other users for posting it, resulting in suspensions for those users who posted the pic.

[Cheesypoof]

That is a real life picture of Ragnaros. He has been suspended numerous times in game and on these forums. And he further mocks the staff by putting that pic as his sig when in the past he has reported other users for posting it, resulting in suspensions for those users who posted the pic.

He can get other people banned for posting his pic before he posts it.

Once he posts the pic its fair game. Those are the rules. Deal with it.

[hatelore]

You must be slow, let me explain this to you... Slowly.

Reporting people for posting your pic is fair game. Reporting people for posting your pic, and then posting said pic that resulted in others getting suspended for posting the pic you are now posting is a clear form of gm mockery which should result in a suspension at the very least. But def ban worthy. Given the amount of times ragnaros has Ben banned in game and on these forums.

[Eslade]

He can get other people banned for posting his pic before he posts it.

Once he posts the pic its fair game. Those are the rules. Deal with it.

he should be banned for lying to gm's. rag has already told us more than once that it's not him and he got someone banned in the grounds that it was.

[hatelore]

It's the equivalent of what krazyglue did in the other thread by posting a personal msg between him and a guide which resulted in a suspension to another player. Ban worthy gm mockery at it's finest.

[Cheesypoof]

You must be slow, let me explain this to you... Slowly.

Reporting people for posting your pic is fair game. Reporting people for posting your pic, and then posting said pic that resulted in others getting suspended for posting the pic you are now posting is a clear form of gm mockery which should result in a suspension at the very least. But def ban worthy. Given the amount of times ragnaros has Ben banned in game and on these forums.

Those are the rules, but please cry more if you feel the need.

[heartbrand]

Another thread ruined by Pikrib's awful posts.

[Ragnaros]

God it feels good getting everyone banned for "posting my real life picture" rofl

[Pumped]

looks like a happy kid in the pic

who cares?

[Cheesypoof]

he should be banned for lying to gm's. rag has already told us more than once that it's not him and he got someone banned in the grounds that it was.

I guess you all shouldn't have confirmed that it was him then.

Crying when your troll gets reverse trolled is kinda embarrassing though.

[Cheesypoof]

Another thread ruined by Pikrib's awful posts.

please write me another tldr today i'll make sure to read it :rolleyes:

[Ragnaros]

Please post more random pictures so i can confirm that its me and get more people banned

[Swish]

can't be Rag, that guy is outdoors

[Ella`Ella]

It's called posting with my iphone6 with 1 hand while I'm working . Some of us got off the titty milk a long time ago

Bro, you still on that family plan - don't lie.

[Sosa_Chamberlain]

Another thread ruined by Pikrib's awful posts.

[LoliPops]

http://i.imgur.com/YrvvBdm.jpg

[Sektor]

Another thread ruined by Pikrib's awful posts.

Taking that ES BP back backfired.

[Deliverator]

Really? I don't get why staff here talk down to people. I was always trained as a Guide in EQ that you must always address the players respectfully as you represent the program as a whole.

Is there something really ludicrous about a request that there be a more clearer and written out Guide or Rules to the Project? Is it outrageous to be against the concept of enforcement action, many times based on non written rules that no one knows about? People were suspended for crying out loud for using OOC as OOC, with no rule. How does this make sense?

Rule lawyering is a direct result of there being no rules, and the constant misapplication or different application of them, depending on who is doing the punishment.

But because the project is free I guess we can all go fuck ourselves or something. Maybe I should open up a non profit animal shelter and tell people who donate money to my non profit to fuck themselves and put down their animals.

Inb4 banned for suggesting more clear written rules and a more healthy discourse between staff and player would be a positive.

You mean you want to start PETA? Because that is kinda what they do... (something like 95% of the animals they took in were euthanized within a year)

[Slathar]

I get that being a Forum Mod / Guide / GM on a volunteer project can be frustrating [though being a Guide in EQ was volunteer as well]. I'm sure you deal with tons of douches and annoying people on a daily basis. It probably puts people on tilt. I also deal with plenty of incredibly frustrating people on a daily basis. But I think a lot of this is self inflicted by P99's strange selective enforcement model with very little clear rule guidelines.

It was genuinely difficult to get suspended or banned on EQ Live. Many simple disputes such as camp disputes, were handled with a guide simply calming the situation down with a warning, and noting the players account in case of further issues. Here, a situation like that would probably result in your account being randomly suspended three to six months later with no warning, and then being told to "read the rules" (which usually don't exist, or weren't even applied the way they were written, or are contained in post #1988 of some RNF topic you never read) or "you know what you did," if you try to petition to find out [if that staff member is even part of the project anymore to tell you].

There's numerous instances of this on P99 where situations escalate in scenarios that they never had to. You just didn't really "feel" a constant guide presence on EQ Live, even though they were actually there in greater number and force than they are here.

Forum Moderation is another great example. What is accomplished by banning Forum Accounts? The player can't Petition anymore, loses access to existing petitions, if they have their Forum Account set up for their EQ Emulator password reset (which effects non p99 servers as well) they've lost that, and all it takes is five minutes to get another Forum Account going. Yes, if someone is posting gore, tranny porn, burn it down, peoples real life info then sure I get it. But banning people from forums for trolling on Red99 guild posts? The same threads that go without moderation for 2 years then suddenly get moderation, then go dormant again? People were eating bans for using the word f*&()t in RNF, now suddenly it's not moderated at all anymore. There just seems to be a heavy handed approach by the P99 Staff to everything, which is ironic, because when you actually need staff in game on R99 for something that's actually serious, you're SOL 99% of the time.

Normally I'd say if you just "play by the rules" and don't do anything dumb, then you should probably be ok, and that this only affects "shit heads." Problem is, time after time I see good, rule abiding players, eat blanket bans because so-and-so logged on their account one time in 2013, or because they made a character named Bankers that used to belong to someone else 4 years ago before they deleted it, or in my case back in 2012, because Mellowyellow petitions you saying you're a RMT kingpin, or because someone like Roarie baits you into LNS violations, or because the Petitioner usually wins 99% of the time much like paypal disputes, etc.

Every time I log onto P99 I wonder if my account will be banned or not, and I barely even play. Everyone's response to everything is "petitioned" or "reported." It's ludicrous.

None of this is really directed necessarily at a specific staff member, I think the vast majority of it could be easily fixed by:

1) Clearer rules

2) A calmer approach to most disputes [obviously hacking, 2boxing etc. still drop the hammer]

3) A consistent approach to forum moderation

4) A toned down rhetoric between player and staff.


Doubtful any of this will happen. There's 1000+ guide apps in the sub-forum. Are there really so few qualified Elf Sim Larpers in those apps? Most of the people I met in the EQ Guide Program were people who just loved Elf-Sim and wanted to hand cookies out to people and make Norrath a beautiful place. Here the feeling I get most of the time is the staff is the Ferguson Police ready to shoot you down.

xoxoxo

+1

[Alarti0001]

You must be slow, let me explain this to you... Slowly.

Reporting people for posting your pic is fair game. Reporting people for posting your pic, and then posting said pic that resulted in others getting suspended for posting the pic you are now posting is a clear form of gm mockery which should result in a suspension at the very least. But def ban worthy. Given the amount of times ragnaros has Ben banned in game and on these forums.

Nah. I mean if you didn't want the picture distributed and then it did. Its too late to prevent colgate and crew from saving it asap. Still should be a punishment for the offense.

[Uuruk]

Nah. I mean if you didn't want the picture distributed and then it did. Its too late to prevent colgate and crew from saving it asap. Still should be a punishment for the offense.

I honestly saw the picture on a gay twink website. Had no idea it was Ragnaros.

[Ragnaros]

I honestly saw the picture on a gay twink website. Had no idea it was Ragnaros.

What were you doing on a gay twink website?

[Uuruk]

What were you doing on a gay twink website?

Checking out dudes ?

[Ragnaros]

Checking out dudes ?

Fay Gate

[Uuruk]

Fay Gate

Chuckled.

[Eslade]

Fay Gate

reported

[krazyGlue]

I honestly saw the picture on a gay twink website. Had no idea it was Ragnaros.

Reported for rl attacks . You racist pice of shit

[Uuruk]

Reported for rl attacks . You racist pice of shit

http://torontoist.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/20120918arishaffir.jpg

[Sheriff]

Reported for rl attacks . You racist pice of shit

What's racist about that?

[hatelore]

Ragnaros was just recently banned for hate speech on these forums.

Hate speech is any speech that discriminates against a person or group for color of skin, sexual orientation or religion. Are you really looking to get banned again from your previous post?

[Slathar]

Ragnaros was just recently banned for hate speech on these forums.

Hate speech is any speech that discriminates against a person or group for color of skin, sexual orientation or religion. Are you really looking to get banned again from your previous post?

shut up hick. idiot nerd lol, wrekt.

[Snapple]

shut up hick. idiot nerd lol, wrekt.

reported

[Ragnaros]

Ragnaros was just recently banned for hate speech on these forums.

Hate speech is any speech that discriminates against a person or group for color of skin, sexual orientation or religion. Are you really looking to get banned again from your previous post?

nobody cares go tend to ur farm

[quido]

Ahhh it's good to own land

[LoliPops]

http://i.imgur.com/cMxRDMc.jpg

[LoliPops]

http://i2.ytimg.com/vi/lGABWh3fRfc/maxresdefault.jpg

[LoliPops]

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm221/genxer36/Computer%20Nerd/really-fat-guy-on-computer.jpg

[LoliPops]

http://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/Chunkster+exercise+this+fat+asshole+is+lame+but+th is+chick_051f46_4541699.gif

[Smedy]

http://torontoist.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/20120918arishaffir.jpg

ari shaffir, fucking love that guy

[LulzSect]

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/932/095/70d.png

[Dazed]

Gzaz and his boy band wouldn't invite you to hang with his pop group wearing a polo like that....

nerd.