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FitMed
10-28-2010, 12:24 AM
Hello, just a quick question about the likeability of certain camps in kunark to be perma-camped, in particular the sebiis mob that drops fungus covered great staff. Up until it is nerfed that is, seeing how it is an amazing item and trying to compete with others that have the ability to play longer just wondering if I should even attempt to camp it off peak hours with my minimum (ie, 6 hours weekly) playtime.
Fists
10-28-2010, 12:29 AM
1st, this question cannot be answered until Kunark opens. If your off of peak hours, your looking at competing against 300-400 other players. Zone in, call a CC, and do your business.
Unfortunately EQ favored people with alot of free time. The way the game was made just favors people that way.
That said, this item will likely take nearly a full group of people to camp so there isn't really any reason not to try to form a group or try to get into a group already there.
Zarniwooop
10-28-2010, 04:03 PM
Everything very rare/useful will be mostly out of reach for normal players if its a solo camp, and likely even if its a group camp. If its only going to spawn for a limited time, odds are long that you'll get a shot at it unless its a normal grouping area.
The exceptions being droppable items which will eventually be purchasable assuming they don't have exceptional worth like sleeper warden loots.
But, yes, in general its the people that are on at 8am and still at 11pm that will drive the server (or those in motivated guilds). And that's just how it was in classic.
audacity
10-28-2010, 04:16 PM
I think it will be bad, but maybe not as bad as it was lets say 8 years+ ago. Most of us played EQ classic/RoK/SoV when we were younger, probably back in middle school, high school, and college. Now a lot of us are probably at a point where we have other things to take care of; "real" jobs, wives, kids, and other things that don't involve 10 year old video games :)
feste
10-28-2010, 04:34 PM
I think it will be bad, but maybe not as bad as it was lets say 8 years+ ago. Most of us played EQ classic/RoK/SoV when we were younger, probably back in middle school, high school, and college. Now a lot of us are probably at a point where we have other things to take care of; "real" jobs, wives, kids, and other things that don't involve 10 year old video games :)
ohh im sure lots of those 30ish year olds will find the time this go around too lol. that being said 6 hours weekly with persistence might get you a roll or 2 on what ever item you are lookin for. 1 in 6 chance aint so bad.
Combo
10-28-2010, 04:42 PM
Mosscovered Twig m i rite?
audacity
10-28-2010, 04:47 PM
ohh im sure lots of those 30ish year olds will find the time this go around too lol. that being said 6 hours weekly with persistence might get you a roll or 2 on what ever item you are lookin for. 1 in 6 chance aint so bad.
Lol, you have a point, plus unemployment is still pretty high :P
Vonkaar
10-28-2010, 04:48 PM
Yeah... my situation is a little different...
2000: 21 year old with 20 year old live-in-gf who didn't mind me playing 40-60 hours a week because I'd give her my bank card and told her to go have fun.
2010: 31 year old with 24 year old wife and 1 year old daughter, both of whom would freak out if I spent more than 90 minutes a day playing a game that I couldn't walk away from at a moment's notice.
However, I'm still really really ridiculously good looking.
audacity
10-28-2010, 04:57 PM
2000: Morning sports practices (FB/Wrestling/boxing), school during day, and then hours upon hours of EQ
2010: Deployed to Iraq, and I think I honestly have more time to play EQ now than ever haha! But if I was back home, I got a wife, 8 year old, and a 1 month old, so I'd be busy as fuuuuuuuck
Kassel
10-28-2010, 05:30 PM
Please exclude my ignorance, how do you have more time while in a war zone fighting a war? are there support jobs that basically run 9-5? and the rest of your time is spent dislodging sand out of various crevice's or playing eq? Do all military personal get net in their rooms/bunks do you have to share access? Do you bring your own computer or can you actually play EQ on military hardware. Keep in mind all i know about war is based on news and cnn. I guess i though everyone would be cleaning guns and getting ready for the next mission/hunt. Just curious
feste
10-28-2010, 05:46 PM
a wife, 8 year old, and a 1 month old
there is no war that can compete with that timewise lol
audacity
10-28-2010, 06:08 PM
Please exclude my ignorance, how do you have more time while in a war zone fighting a war? are there support jobs that basically run 9-5? and the rest of your time is spent dislodging sand out of various crevice's or playing eq? Do all military personal get net in their rooms/bunks do you have to share access? Do you bring your own computer or can you actually play EQ on military hardware. Keep in mind all i know about war is based on news and cnn. I guess i though everyone would be cleaning guns and getting ready for the next mission/hunt. Just curious
The warzone I'm in isn't really a "war zone" anymore. What my unit does here is provide communications for A LOT of operations. We get mortared every day just about, but because the "combat troops" are out of Iraq, we really don't get to go outside and chase them...We have security around our base which does a faily decent job of defending the base, but of course, they fuck up too and we get hit with mortars.
My team runs 12 hour shifts, and after the inital "setup" of our equipment, we go into monitoring mode and just wait till something breaks, and generally it doesn't. I haven't had to fix anything in the last 4 months... :\
We do stupid shit here ALL the time, as the saying goes, there is a lot of "hurry up and wait", After a 12 hour shift, there is something back at the room that needs to be fixed for a higher up or someone at an outpost, so I have to fix their issue(s) and help them with whatever it is that needs to be done, sometimes that invovles me loading up on a chopter and taking a quick 2-3hr flight to some other post in Iraq. If that doesn't happen, I normally go to the gym for 1-2hrs and then head back to the room to talk to wife/friends/play EQ.
There are 2 people to a room, and you have to pay for your own internet, and at times it sucks ass, but hey, at least it's internet. $120.00 a month for 256k service, expensive, I know, but I like to keep up with how my baby is doing, along with my 8 year old and wife. Every soldier pretty much has internet, and if they don't I let them borrow mine for a few mins to skype back home.
Where I work and where I sleep is two different places, it's about a 20 min walk to and from, while carrying 30-45lbs of extra gear. It's not to bad though, because it's an easy workout heh...I COULD bring my personally laptop to work, but I don't really want my computer being used on a gov. internet connection, just in case ;). I'm military equipment now posting, I can view MOST websites, but cannot view stuff like facebook, myspace, youtube, and ESPN, which sucks...but what our higher ups don't know is we have haji TV at work, it's about 10 channels and it normally fields 2-3 football games per saturday and sunday (along with the World Series games).
Out of the 5 months I've been here, I've fired my weapon three times, been mortared a bunch but mainly, I do a weekly PMCS (which pretty much means I make sure it's clean/functioning) on my weapon.
It's okay that what you know is mostly through the news heh, I learn shit over here everyday! Thanks for asking about it though, instead of just labeling me as some baby killer lol :)
All in all Iraq is an experience, I wish I wasn't here for a year, but I'm not going to get emo about it, there are worst places to be. I get to work and train Iraqi soldiers, which honestly, that is the most nerve wrecking part, because honestly, I don't trust them, because I know they don't trust me....It's a fubar situation and just because combat troops are out of Iraq doesn't mean the WAR HAS STOPPED.
audacity
10-28-2010, 06:09 PM
there is no war that can compete with that timewise lol
I got to go home on R&R and witness the birth, and also got about a week with the baby. It was awesome, I really miss her though, but the wife puts them all on the webcam so I can see how my son is doing in school, how the wifey is doing, and how big my little girl is getting....When I speak to her, sometimes I can get her to smile (although it probably has nothing to do with me other than a baby just doing cute baby things :P)
Combo
10-28-2010, 06:20 PM
I can view MOST websites, but cannot view stuff like facebook, myspace, youtube, and ESPN, which sucks...
wat
I understand the rest, but why ESPN?
audacity
10-28-2010, 06:24 PM
wat
I understand the rest, but why ESPN?
My guess is that if we see football scores, we lose the war on terror.........actually we have never been given a valid reason, *shrug* I can view anything on my internet in my room, but for whatever they have certain filters for websites, it's pretty ruh-tard'd
oldhead
10-28-2010, 10:51 PM
The warzone I'm in isn't really a "war zone" anymore. What my unit does here is provide communications for A LOT of operations. We get mortared every day just about, but because the "combat troops" are out of Iraq, we really don't get to go outside and chase them...We have security around our base which does a faily decent job of defending the base, but of course, they fuck up too and we get hit with mortars.
My team runs 12 hour shifts, and after the inital "setup" of our equipment, we go into monitoring mode and just wait till something breaks, and generally it doesn't. I haven't had to fix anything in the last 4 months... :\
We do stupid shit here ALL the time, as the saying goes, there is a lot of "hurry up and wait", After a 12 hour shift, there is something back at the room that needs to be fixed for a higher up or someone at an outpost, so I have to fix their issue(s) and help them with whatever it is that needs to be done, sometimes that invovles me loading up on a chopter and taking a quick 2-3hr flight to some other post in Iraq. If that doesn't happen, I normally go to the gym for 1-2hrs and then head back to the room to talk to wife/friends/play EQ.
There are 2 people to a room, and you have to pay for your own internet, and at times it sucks ass, but hey, at least it's internet. $120.00 a month for 256k service, expensive, I know, but I like to keep up with how my baby is doing, along with my 8 year old and wife. Every soldier pretty much has internet, and if they don't I let them borrow mine for a few mins to skype back home.
Where I work and where I sleep is two different places, it's about a 20 min walk to and from, while carrying 30-45lbs of extra gear. It's not to bad though, because it's an easy workout heh...I COULD bring my personally laptop to work, but I don't really want my computer being used on a gov. internet connection, just in case ;). I'm military equipment now posting, I can view MOST websites, but cannot view stuff like facebook, myspace, youtube, and ESPN, which sucks...but what our higher ups don't know is we have haji TV at work, it's about 10 channels and it normally fields 2-3 football games per saturday and sunday (along with the World Series games).
Out of the 5 months I've been here, I've fired my weapon three times, been mortared a bunch but mainly, I do a weekly PMCS (which pretty much means I make sure it's clean/functioning) on my weapon.
It's okay that what you know is mostly through the news heh, I learn shit over here everyday! Thanks for asking about it though, instead of just labeling me as some baby killer lol :)
All in all Iraq is an experience, I wish I wasn't here for a year, but I'm not going to get emo about it, there are worst places to be. I get to work and train Iraqi soldiers, which honestly, that is the most nerve wrecking part, because honestly, I don't trust them, because I know they don't trust me....It's a fubar situation and just because combat troops are out of Iraq doesn't mean the WAR HAS STOPPED.
always interesting to hear the every day life shit. The news dont cover that. They want the extreme and ratings. Extreme hardship. Extreme kindness. Extreme compassion. Extreme hatred... doesnt matter as long as its extreme... I extremely hate the media.
audacity
10-28-2010, 11:01 PM
always interesting to hear the every day life shit. The news dont cover that. They want the extreme and ratings. Extreme hardship. Extreme kindness. Extreme compassion. Extreme hatred... doesnt matter as long as its extreme... I extremely hate the media.
Could not have said it better myself. Back when all the "troops" were leaving Iraq, with all the pictures, and videos of Strykers/HMMMVs rolling out into Kuwait, there was almost little to no mention of all at the remaining 50k+ troops here. We were watching the news over here just laughing, because that's all we can do.
When I went home on R&R people who asked me where I was, I told them Iraq, and they were like "But I thought that war was over", I just kinda laughed...If you guys pray and/or what not, just keep the troops in your thoughts. Especially w/ the holidays coming up, heck, I'm more pissed about missing Halloween than I am Tgiving or Xmas lol :) There are plenty of young soldiers over here who don't have ANYONE back home to send them carepackages, by my wife and several others take good care of them by sending them their own, but these kids over here don't bitch, they don't whine, they just do their job and take care of business. Anyway, it's not all easy over here, but it isn't like we are having to go weeks without food.
Ronas
10-28-2010, 11:47 PM
Old Sebilis, like all Everquest dungeons, is divided into several "camps" or specified areas for players to kill monsters. All players zone into the same area and must travel down the same corridor to an area called "the rock", but from there, the path splits 3 ways leading to several camps.
Disco 1 - If a player were to travel left from "the rock" down a long corridor across a bridge, they would arrive in a camp dubbed disco due to the shiny, multi-colored changing ceiling over a stage. This camp has named spawns such as Gruplinort, froglok ostiary, and frenzied pox scarab. This camp is also a popular site for AE groups.
Disco 2 - Down the same path as disco 1, buth further in, past the "disco" stage. This camp has named spawns such as Brogg, froglok pickler, and froglok commander.
NOTE* Sometimes disco 1 and disco 2 would be combined into a single camp titled simply "disco"
Nec/Guard - This camp is straight across from "the rock" and is named after 2 rare spawns at this location, the Necrosis Scarab, and Sebilite Guardian. Once popular for the constant precious gem drops from the multiple scarabs at this camp, Nec/Guard now only sees a few gems, but is still the site for popular Kunark era weapons, "Lamentation" and "Crystalline Short Sword."
Crypt - If players venture through the Nec/Guard camp, down the long corridor, they will come to a large pyramid. Under this pyramid is a locked door that can only be picked by a rogue that is skilled in the pick-lock ability. Once inside the crypt, players encounter many undead frogloks and undead iksars. The crypt is the camp in Old Sebilis with the most rare spawns. These rare spawns include, Crypt Caretaker, Arch Duke Iatol, Harbinger Freglor, Heirophant Prime Grekal, Baron Yosig, Blood of Chotal, and Emperor Chottal.
Cages/Jail - This camp is located to the right of "the rock" and is called cages or jail because of the 4 jail cells that are part of the camp. This camp is inhabited by four captive iksar necromancers. This camp may see the rare spawn of gangrenous scarab.
Chef - This camp is also located to the right of "the rock" but is past the location of the cages. The camp is a large open room with a banquet table in it. The Chef camp may see rarespawns such as froglok chef, froglok bartender, froglok armsman, and Froggy.
UZO (Upper Zone Out) - This is not usually a camp but can become one in the case that sebilis is overcrowded. The upper zone out is a hard left to "the rock" and is at the end of a two or three rooms. There are no named spawns at this camp.
LZO (Lower Zone Out) - This camp is similar to UZO, in that it is only taken if sebilis is overcrowded. To get to lower sebilis one must jump into the water around "the rock"/Nec/Guard area and swim into one of two underwater passages. The lower zone out is guarded by some of the harder frogloks of Old Sebilis. There are no named spawns at this camp.
King - This refers to the Myconid King camp which is where the famous Fungus Covered Scale Tunic drops. This is one of the most difficult camps in sebilis and should only be attempted by experienced, higher level players.
(Side note: Good luck to the regular/casual players trying to get in, the forger/hunter will be locked down for at least acouple weeks)
RKromwell
10-28-2010, 11:56 PM
Hehe, I remember getting paid well to track that bastard hunter for folks.
nukem419
10-29-2010, 08:17 AM
My guess is that if we see football scores, we lose the war on terror.........actually we have never been given a valid reason, *shrug* I can view anything on my internet in my room, but for whatever they have certain filters for websites, it's pretty ruh-tard'd
That's extremely easy to get around. One of two things is going on; either your DNS will not return an IP address for those sites, or that IP address is blocked by your ISP. If it's a DNS issue just go into your network settings and change your DNS to openDNS or something. If it's an IP block purchase a VPN for 5 bucks per month and neither your ISP's BFR(big fucking router) or your LAN's firewall will be able to see any sites that you have been browsing since all of your computers traffic will be routed through one IP address in some distant foreign country. DSL really blows; I'll never go back after docsis 3.0
audacity
10-29-2010, 08:38 AM
That's extremely easy to get around. One of two things is going on; either your DNS will not return an IP address for those sites, or that IP address is blocked by your ISP. If it's a DNS issue just go into your network settings and change your DNS to openDNS or something. If it's an IP block purchase a VPN for 5 bucks per month and neither your ISP's BFR(big fucking router) or your LAN's firewall will be able to see any sites that you have been browsing since all of your computers traffic will be routed through one IP address in some distant foreign country. DSL really blows; I'll never go back after docsis 3.0
Aye, but we have eyes on us at ALL TIMES, if they catch you messing with anyone on the military supplied hardware, you can lose rank/pay, and even be put up for treason.
ShivanAngel
10-29-2010, 09:32 AM
Hmmm things likeley to be perma camped.... (back on topic lolz)
Trak/sev/talendor are probly going to be poopsocked like no ones buisiness.
Fungus king will be at firsts, its not an easy camp to get to tbh, or to hold. Takes a pretty good group. So it might not be as perma camped as people think. Especially once the pre-nerf staff stops dropping.
Bugs in sebilis if they keep their classic loot (rare gems).
Certain epic mobs will be camped pretty hardcore for a while, For things like rogue hate book i can see lists days/weeks long.
Cheps
10-29-2010, 09:41 AM
Certain epic mobs will be camped pretty hardcore for a while, For things like rogue hate book i can see lists days/weeks long.
Cleric epic stuff will be perma camped too (remember the old ragefire in SolB).
Rogean
10-29-2010, 10:01 AM
That's extremely easy to get around. One of two things is going on; either your DNS will not return an IP address for those sites, or that IP address is blocked by your ISP. If it's a DNS issue just go into your network settings and change your DNS to openDNS or something. If it's an IP block purchase a VPN for 5 bucks per month and neither your ISP's BFR(big fucking router) or your LAN's firewall will be able to see any sites that you have been browsing since all of your computers traffic will be routed through one IP address in some distant foreign country. DSL really blows; I'll never go back after docsis 3.0
It's not that easy everywhere. Any locked down network like centcom will not be easy to get around, and why risk it; You're talking about the US Military here.
audacity
10-29-2010, 10:19 AM
It's not that easy everywhere. Any locked down network like centcom will not be easy to get around, and why risk it; You're talking about the US Military here.
^^^ This x 1 million haha
Mcbard
10-29-2010, 10:48 AM
It's not that easy everywhere. Any locked down network like centcom will not be easy to get around, and why risk it; You're talking about the US Military here.
But it was so easy to do in Highschool. :(
Rogean
10-29-2010, 10:56 AM
But it was so easy to do in Highschool. :(
You read my mind. Infact, the first version of my post that I wrote said something along the lines of "Just because you got around your high school's network, "..etc but then I looked at the forum we're in, saw no R&F, and got sadface.
Contact
10-29-2010, 02:02 PM
always interesting to hear the every day life shit. The news dont cover that. They want the extreme and ratings. Extreme hardship. Extreme kindness. Extreme compassion. Extreme hatred... doesnt matter as long as its extreme... I extremely hate the media.
That's a pretty extreme position.
KilyenaMage
10-29-2010, 08:22 PM
All of them.
KilyenaMage
10-29-2010, 08:26 PM
Seriously though....
That is going to be a difficult camp early Kunark if I'm not mistaken. Very high chance for adds (a chanter is basically required) and a lot of them are Clerics.
It's much more difficult than classic and due to this there might actually be a BETTER chance of getting high-value camps (not accounting for a possible population surge). Obviously like someone said off-peak hours are obviously beneficial.
KilyenaMage
10-29-2010, 08:35 PM
Old Sebilis, like all Everquest dungeons, is divided into several "camps" or specified areas for players to kill monsters. All players zone into the same area and must travel down the same corridor to an area called "the rock", but from there, the path splits 3 ways leading to several camps.
Disco 1 - If a player were to travel left from "the rock" down a long corridor across a bridge, they would arrive in a camp dubbed disco due to the shiny, multi-colored changing ceiling over a stage. This camp has named spawns such as Gruplinort, froglok ostiary, and frenzied pox scarab. This camp is also a popular site for AE groups.
Disco 2 - Down the same path as disco 1, buth further in, past the "disco" stage. This camp has named spawns such as Brogg, froglok pickler, and froglok commander.
NOTE* Sometimes disco 1 and disco 2 would be combined into a single camp titled simply "disco"
Nec/Guard - This camp is straight across from "the rock" and is named after 2 rare spawns at this location, the Necrosis Scarab, and Sebilite Guardian. Once popular for the constant precious gem drops from the multiple scarabs at this camp, Nec/Guard now only sees a few gems, but is still the site for popular Kunark era weapons, "Lamentation" and "Crystalline Short Sword."
Crypt - If players venture through the Nec/Guard camp, down the long corridor, they will come to a large pyramid. Under this pyramid is a locked door that can only be picked by a rogue that is skilled in the pick-lock ability. Once inside the crypt, players encounter many undead frogloks and undead iksars. The crypt is the camp in Old Sebilis with the most rare spawns. These rare spawns include, Crypt Caretaker, Arch Duke Iatol, Harbinger Freglor, Heirophant Prime Grekal, Baron Yosig, Blood of Chotal, and Emperor Chottal.
Cages/Jail - This camp is located to the right of "the rock" and is called cages or jail because of the 4 jail cells that are part of the camp. This camp is inhabited by four captive iksar necromancers. This camp may see the rare spawn of gangrenous scarab.
Chef - This camp is also located to the right of "the rock" but is past the location of the cages. The camp is a large open room with a banquet table in it. The Chef camp may see rarespawns such as froglok chef, froglok bartender, froglok armsman, and Froggy.
UZO (Upper Zone Out) - This is not usually a camp but can become one in the case that sebilis is overcrowded. The upper zone out is a hard left to "the rock" and is at the end of a two or three rooms. There are no named spawns at this camp.
LZO (Lower Zone Out) - This camp is similar to UZO, in that it is only taken if sebilis is overcrowded. To get to lower sebilis one must jump into the water around "the rock"/Nec/Guard area and swim into one of two underwater passages. The lower zone out is guarded by some of the harder frogloks of Old Sebilis. There are no named spawns at this camp.
King - This refers to the Myconid King camp which is where the famous Fungus Covered Scale Tunic drops. This is one of the most difficult camps in sebilis and should only be attempted by experienced, higher level players.
(Side note: Good luck to the regular/casual players trying to get in, the forger/hunter will be locked down for at least acouple weeks)
This makes me wanna goto old seb.
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