Official "GG disbanded" post?

[Voland]

When Max disbanded <Fresh> he made a post that explained his reasoning. His decision may have been questionable, but at least his post clarified things and sparked a discussion.

I was wondering if the person who disbanded <Good Guys> could do the same.
For the people interested in Red99 history, it could be useful to help keep track of what happened. For others, I think it could be a learning experience, as we move forward.

[Agatha]

we failed to manage the guild properly, the whole thing was a mess, it turned into more an alliance than an actual guild, depending on what officer was leading that raid at that time rules changed dramatically, uhh what else, just terrible leadership all around from everyone involved.

there is no one person to blame, you have to blame all the leaders, specifically the people who were officers/leaders that had nothing to contribute to the guild.

[Qazzaz]

we failed to manage the guild properly, the whole thing was a mess, it turned into more an alliance than an actual guild, depending on what officer was leading that raid at that time rules changed dramatically, uhh what else, just terrible leadership all around from everyone involved.

there is no one person to blame, you have to blame all the leaders, specifically the people who were officers/leaders that had nothing to contribute to the guild.

Amazingly, I have to agree with Agatha.

Of course, didn't help that Empire trained us at Ragefire, when they were losing in KC for VS, Trakanon and finally Phara Dar that I was personally at and there was zero GM intervention or repercussions.

Then of course there was the people only concerned about getting loot and taking the easy road who flocked on Empire; although I can't blame then for wanting the easy road, especially when every turn Empire would get away with shit that should have gotten them guild suspended or disbanded. Makes me appreciate Nihilum a crapload.

[magician]

called it

when you guild with mostly toxic/bad players this is gonna happen

any guild with agatha is gonna end up failing

[Xantille]

http://s13.postimg.org/i5qctgbrb/jibeknassburgers2.png

[Samsung]

u got beef xantille???

[SamwiseRed]

to be fair xannie you've only showed you face when your pals were already winning :P like most the vztzers around here, you were no where to be found when nilly was running the show except for in nilly. not impressed with any former box "heroes"

[Xantille]

to be fair xannie you've only showed you face when your pals were already winning :P like most the vztzers around here, you were no where to be found when nilly was running the show except for in nilly. not impressed with any former box "heroes"

ya i def wasn't an officer of Holocaust in classic when our guild was the only one fighting Nihilum, and i def wasn't in Azrael when Nihilum was getting all raid mobs and Azrael was interested in contesting once every three weeks



moran

[SamwiseRed]

nope non factor entire time, next

[Uuruk]

Lol sam

[SamwiseRed]

if logging in once a month and auto running into walls during mass pvp is a factor then okay Xantille, you are so goog.

[Ragnaros]

xantille is garbage, everytime i fight him he allways blabs some shit about being good on vztz shortly before plugging

[Malevz]

Hmmm, Ragnaros in TMO... that Australian guy with all the conspiracy theories that lost his mind long time ago, wonder who else. Going to be interesting to see how TMO handles the toxic players its inviting.

[SamwiseRed]

Hmmm, Ragnaros in TMO... that Australian guy with all the conspiracy theories that lost his mind long time ago, wonder who else. Going to be interesting to see how TMO handles the toxic players its inviting.

says the guy who talks shit about other peoples kids in game. you about as psychotic as it gets :P

[SamwiseRed]

nb4 "but i said im sorry"

lul

[Xantille]

burden of prof has not been met

[Malevz]

says the guy who talks shit about other peoples kids in game. you about as psychotic as it gets :P

Oh yeah, *I'm* the psychotic one on this server. Thanks for sorting that out.

[Genedin]

TMO has no idea what they in for.

[Samsung]

nope non factor entire time, next

I AM XANTIILLLEEE

[Madbad]

TMO has no idea what they in for.

[SamwiseRed]

Oh yeah, *I'm* the psychotic one on this server. Thanks for sorting that out.

completely cool and normal if you ask me

http://i.imgur.com/VyYnx0n.jpg

yiKes

[Samsung]

completely cool and normal if you ask me

http://i.imgur.com/VyYnx0n.jpg

yiKes

lol owned.

Raze def a head case.

[SamwiseRed]

dude is a nutjob for sure. i love all these non-factors who've yet to lead anything in their entire lives, give advice to tmo about leading a guild. noone in their right mind would follow more than half these people into crushbone let alone a raid. they just kiss whoever is winnings ass and forumquest away. hence why malevz went from nilly to holo. next

[Tapatio]

http://s13.postimg.org/i5qctgbrb/jibeknassburgers2.png

WATCH OUT HOLOCAUST IN ZONE EVERYTIME THEY GET A KILL THEY BUST A NUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[Platexchange]

dude is a nutjob for sure. i love all these non-factors who've yet to lead anything in their entire lives, give advice to tmo about leading a guild. noone in their right mind would follow more than half these people into crushbone let alone a raid. they just kiss whoever is winnings ass and forumquest away. hence why malevz went from nilly to holo. next

Non-factors can still have an opinion. I'm sure you've never coached a sports team but you sure would be able to point out the shitty players to not sign. If you guys really want tmo to succeed, shitting up the boards every day with their tag associated will not do them any favors. But then again, what do I know, I'm a non factor

[Malevz]

lol owned.

Raze def a head case.

I'm getting grief from the RMTer that immediately attempted to buy rile sword, after his guild failed, for a small price and asked an Empire officer to get in skype so they could "discuss it"?

The guy that's been banned so many times yet still can't quit or stop spending RL money on a 15 year old game?

Makes sense.

[Pumped]

dude is a nutjob for sure. i love all these non-factors who've yet to lead anything in their entire lives, give advice to tmo about leading a guild. noone in their right mind would follow more than half these people into crushbone let alone a raid. they just kiss whoever is winnings ass and forumquest away. hence why malevz went from nilly to holo. next

id follow you into crushbone sam

[dontbanpls]

dude is a nutjob for sure. i love all these non-factors who've yet to lead anything in their entire lives, give advice to tmo about leading a guild. noone in their right mind would follow more than half these people into crushbone let alone a raid. they just kiss whoever is winnings ass and forumquest away. hence why malevz went from nilly to holo. next

hilarious coming from sam who has never lead anything who also had no problem being guilded with north who said much worse(aggressively sexual) things about other peoples children.

[heartbrand]

Tunak same guy who jumped off from sky because it had no loot for his shaman, and abandoned guild, then tried to delete the guild port bot (and got permanently banned by rogean himself) for doing so.

Hehehehe

Never banned here though feels good

[jibekn]

samwise is a fucking saint

[dontbanpls]

heartbrand how do you even remember what i did during some shitty sky raid 2+ years ago? you'll remember all the hurt i've caused you until the day you die

[fiegi 8.0]

agatha killed another guild?

[dontbanpls]

samwise is a fucking nobody who just likes to stir the pot

[Pumped]

everyone here is a nobody

[dontbanpls]

Nah, even you're a somebody. You're a piece of shit, but that is something.

[Madbad]

lol'd

[Casey VII]

lol

[SamwiseRed]

lol random idiot tunak rage out of nowhere. god bless everquest.

[dontbanpls]

i ain't even mad tho, this is the happiest day on the forum for me in a long time

[Magikarp]

heartbrand how do you even remember what i did during some shitty sky raid 2+ years ago? you'll remember all the hurt i've caused you until the day you die

no one forgets extreme cases of sperg

they're diamond moments. i actually seek them and document them in my diary

1 of my favorites is the way u disbanded fresh. that was good

[Madbad]

i ain't even mad tho, this is the happiest day on the forum for me in a long time

who doesn't like being proven right

[dontbanpls]

no one forgets extreme cases of sperg

they're diamond moments. i actually seek them and document them in my diary

1 of my favorites is the way u disbanded fresh. that was good

yeah i don't even remember what heartbrand is talking about maybe i had to log to get sleep before work or something when he wanted to do sky for 12 hours instead of the typical 8 hour sky raid I normally did in azrael/red dawn?

[Magikarp]

maybe he's just mad u didnt share with him how u do it so fast and he mirin

but maybe not

[dontbanpls]

who cares its fart brand

[TheBiznessTZ]

The most important thing here is R.I.P <Fresh> you will be missed.

[Magikarp]

most important thing to me is the syft official response

how many times must i f5 syft, please? you've been mentioned a lot in these 'reasons for gg failing' posts and i need to know how youre coping

[Uuruk]

He hasn't been on here in 2 days. I imagine a mod talked to him about his behavior. This was all that guy had too.

[Madbad]

good riddance

[Eslade]

maybe Syft's rafters are sturdier than he thought.

[lethdar]

Amazingly, I have to agree with Agatha.

Of course, didn't help that Empire trained us at Ragefire, when they were losing in KC for VS, Trakanon and finally Phara Dar that I was personally at and there was zero GM intervention or repercussions.

Then of course there was the people only concerned about getting loot and taking the easy road who flocked on Empire; although I can't blame then for wanting the easy road, especially when every turn Empire would get away with shit that should have gotten them guild suspended or disbanded. Makes me appreciate Nihilum a crapload.

Isnt this the guy that stole a dead man's pixels?

[snufzaimoverlord]

Yup, a true scumbag.

[dontbanpls]

yeah fuck qazzaz, Karsten and I where like the only people on his side after that and he betrayed us by coming into team speak and talking shit on our guild and convincing people to leave the guild and that we had no hope of ever accomplishing anything without the merge. I hope he has fun having no place to go.

[Bazia]

im doing work on festering hags

[Taboo]

Stealing deadman shit in eq1 = winning

[Buhbuh]

So 5 cliques, no leadership, too many chieftans, selfish players in high positions, retarded DKP system

I definitely didn't call this happening.

[Farzo]

maybe Syft's rafters are sturdier than he thought.

Lol, yikes. Shots fired.

[Bazia]

haha like that guy who threatened to commit suicide?

get it?

so funny

[Wizing]

Basiah pm me if you need some start up gear.

[Pumped]

if i die you guys can have all my items and do battle with everquest monsters in my honor

[Nirgon]

BK so good his guilds crumble

[SamwiseRed]

better watch it old man. all my friends and I are still together now under the leadership of TMO. feels good to be playing everquest with new and old friends.

[Xantille]

if logging in once a month and auto running into walls during mass pvp is a factor then okay Xantille, you are so goog.

attacking your guildleader? you are a factor, bro

http://s13.postimg.org/quv39lcg7/samwiseautism.png

[SamwiseRed]

ya lol i would say i was trying to steal the kill, he was 0% t staffed but not gonna lie sometimes my target switches. i was actually on colgate. thanks tho for the quick response. im obviously under someones skin :)

[Sektor]

attacking your guildleader? you are a factor, bro

http://s13.postimg.org/quv39lcg7/samwiseautism.png

Man Samwise really rustled your jimmies if you had to post a screenshot of him hitting zeelot once.

Hhehe non factor

[SamwiseRed]

i mean that just happened. i can only imagine the nerd opening up ms paint frantically trying to post this LOL

http://i.imgur.com/vf36e0n.gif

[Sektor]

http://embed.gyazo.com/65149c36b8e32c8e4c003f6dbb1a6c48.gif

[Xantille]

just calling the autism like i see it, folks

[SamwiseRed]

i like how you only come out when there is 60 warm bodies to surround you. later nerd.

[fiegi 8.0]

GG is back in bussiness

[Alarti0001]

Man Samwise really rustled your jimmies if you had to post a screenshot of him hitting zeelot once.

Hhehe non factor

OMG BETRAYAL... Gonna boot all these GG guys now.!

[Colgate]

thanks for the tip, sam

[SamwiseRed]

thanks for the pd, col

[B4EQWASCOOL]

LoL

[Ruinous]

Merge with Az = guild blows up.

Called it when Fresh disbanded. Fresh was better off staying Fresh..

[Tradesonred]

I dont get why you couldnt just have temp alliances like you see in eve online all the time? All you need is the maturity to hold off PVP against other temp allied guilds when the call is made.

Pretty simple right, reds?

[Wizing]

I dont get why you couldnt just have temp alliances like you see in eve online all the time? All you need is the maturity to hold off PVP against other temp allied guilds when the call is made.

Pretty simple right, reds?

What don't you understand ? No1 gives a fuck about your feelings

[Tradesonred]

lol someone is really rustled and i dont say that often, so it means something

Am i getting a bit too close for comfort in my Holo is a zerg since day 1 and been training since day 1 talk

[Uuruk]

Nice amount of warm bodies. Can't even use an assist key correctly.

[Pumped]

Give them time

[Tassador]

thanks for the pd, col

lol you're so consumed with eq and the boards now.. GL with that.

[SamwiseRed]

lol you're so consumed with eq and the boards now.. GL with that.

lol i barely made it to 60, u really think im going to vp? :D

[QuantumZebra]

http://s13.postimg.org/i5qctgbrb/jibeknassburgers2.png

kek

[aborted]

Problem with GG is that no one wanted to lead it. Jib/Mirkuls/Lite only people that lead any raids, but no one wanted to take it by the pig tails and command it.

Commanding a big guild like that takes alot of time that is hard to devote to with summer here...so i can understand not wanting that job.

[Snapple]

lol i barely made it to 60, u really think im going to vp? :D

yeah fuck spending 2 weeks camping pained soul

[Pumped]

yeah fuck spending 2 weeks camping pained soul

It does not take that long, many people get it within a few hours, i got one and gave camp to someone else they got it in 45 mins.

Mine took like 3 days maybe spending 3-4 hours there tabbed out. Only issue at that camp is pvp

rotting skeleton i think is more rare and has very little pvp.

[TacoSmasher]

i mean that just happened. i can only imagine the nerd opening up ms paint frantically trying to post this LOL

http://i.imgur.com/vf36e0n.gif

if you can't post a screenshot to the forums in less than 5 clicks in 60 seconds you are basic as fuck.

basic computer use is hard

edit: ive seen people post screenshots of screenshots open in windows image viewer, the bar is pretty low in general

[Uton]

Empire would get away with shit that should have gotten them guild suspended or disbanded. Makes me appreciate Nihilum a crapload.

Didn't GG lose 28 accounts to RMT couple weeks ago?

[Silent]

Didn't GG lose 28 accounts to RMT couple weeks ago?

who are you? guess that doesn't matter since you don't know anything about red let alone what happened. understandable.

[Uton]

TMO has no idea what they in for.

^^^

[Uton]

You are the 5th person to call me anon today who was too ignorant lazy and stupid to figure it out in previous posts

[vouss]

who is this uton guy

[Uton]

samwise is a fucking saint

When jibekkn voucher for you... that's when you should probably crawl into a hole and disappear for a while

[Slathar]

When jibekkn voucher for you... that's when you should probably crawl into a hole and disappear for a while

will you voucher for the donals leggings you stole from hokuten, Skelital?

[Uton]

Unfortunately the only main cleric (Stoopy) that wasn't a nili alt or one of Jibekkn's "guild characters" was stripped the last time I saw him.

So they are black holed for my 120ish Dkp

[Uton]

But back to the main story...

Why were Azrael members the only peeps killing PD and getting loot?

Maybe because they didn't do shit to help their GG members to get vp keys?

Maybe that's why GG fell like Hokuten. Jibekkn/Lite and Co. Had anything at all to do with them.

[Slathar]

But back to the main story...

Why were Azrael members the only peeps killing PD and getting loot?

Maybe because they didn't do shit to help their GG members to get vp keys?

Maybe that's why GG fell like Hokuten. Jibekkn/Lite and Co. Had anything at all to do with them.

lol

[SamwiseRed]

But back to the main story...

Why were Azrael members the only peeps killing PD and getting loot?

Maybe because they didn't do shit to help their GG members to get vp keys?

Maybe that's why GG fell like Hokuten. Jibekkn/Lite and Co. Had anything at all to do with them.

lawl

[Videri]

Not sure I want to subject myself to being part of this flamey discussion, but here goes.

Why were Azrael members the only peeps killing PD and getting loot?

For the record, I was there - on my main, Tala, originally from <Fresh>. I've never been in <Azrael>. I'd guess the main reason is <Azrael> players already have a bunch of keyed characters, whereas the <Fresh> and <Curse> players were working more on getting level 60 or leveling a PvP character than on VP key stuff.

Maybe because they didn't do shit to help their GG members to get vp keys?

<Good Guys> set gaining level 60 and getting VP keys as primary goals for GG members. I guess most of us didn't have time for both. <GG> PvP'd together to hold Verix and PS. Finally, Maelzai <Azrael> straight up gave me a Pained Soul (my last piece) so I could join in the GG tribute VP raid (I'm going to pay him back somehow - not sure whether with plat or items or other). So, Azrael players definitely made it possible for me to get VP keyed. I've had lots of playtime for the last couple months, though, thanks to RL being the way it is at the moment. And I never stopped logging in when the guild started to unravel.

[Uton]

Ok that's 1 person. Anyone else?

Beuller?

Beuller?

[SamwiseRed]

id say the average player is not going to have the patience to camp a vp key. i know i aint. fuck that.

[vouss]

I have no idea who skelital is, and what is he even talking about?

[Uton]

Go back to sleep dude. You have a Batphone coming tonight for a Tranix raid

[Uton]

id say the average player is not going to have the patience to camp a vp key. i know i aint. fuck that.

Then don't bother joining a guild to contest raid mobs. Just join Flowers of Happiness and farm classic dungeons and pvp

[SamwiseRed]

Then don't bother joining a guild to contest raid mobs. Just join Flowers of Happiness and farm classic dungeons and pvp

oh okay. LOL

[Snapple]

It does not take that long, many people get it within a few hours, i got one and gave camp to someone else they got it in 45 mins.

Mine took like 3 days maybe spending 3-4 hours there tabbed out. Only issue at that camp is pvp

rotting skeleton i think is more rare and has very little pvp.

Vaex spent close to 50 hours camping his on my bard

[Bazia]

just gank the people camping it and wait for the pop

I got a full MQ banked just from that

[Pumped]

nice 4-5am posts

and how is the amygilbert bard guys?

[Kergan]

id say the average player is not going to have the patience to camp a vp key. i know i aint. fuck that.

I have like four or five VP keyed characters and never once camped a key piece or bought one outside of the ez ground spawn or common mob stuff. It pays to have pals nawmeen.

[SamwiseRed]

Pays very well I hear

[Kergan]

Pays very well I hear

hehehe

[Uton]

:eek:

[Kergan]

In all seriousness just ask around like I did, there are probably 5000 rotting skeleton, Verix and pained soul pieces just sitting in peoples banks. If you do the ez shit and ask around about a MQ for a few days in a big guild and you aren't a total dbag chances are someone will hook you up.

[Sektor]

In all seriousness just ask around like I did, there are probably 5000 rotting skeleton, Verix and pained soul pieces just sitting in peoples banks. If you do the ez shit and ask around about a MQ for a few days in a big guild and you aren't a total dbag chances are someone will hook you up.

Good quote.