Dota Pals

[iiNGloriouS]

Have you ever lost 19 ranked games in a row? Im thinking about just quitting went from 4050 mmr to 3480 these past two weeks; I know my mechanics have gotten slightly worse, but it truly is the autism that I have to deal with on a daily basis.

Hard to stay positive; honestly thinking about hanging up the mantle for good.

[Agatha]

19 in a row? who the fuck are u playing with? randoms?

[Bazia]

mid lane is so much more massively important than any other position that if you aren't picking it then you have no control over the game for the most part

[Bazia]

the complete lack of english speakers on US servers is also making me considering quitting

[Bazia]

fucking peruvians

yes triple post yes im mad

[Mr Popo]

This meta is very weird. What heroes have you been picking? Sincerely, 1500 mmr scrub

[iiNGloriouS]

19 in a row? who the fuck are u playing with? randoms?

Yes; ranked solo queue is played by yourself with 4 randos.

As for Basiah; bb you know im a Role 1/2. Best heroes are Slark and Invoker for each role respectively.

https://www.dotabuff.com/players/166417122 dotabuff so you can laugh at my 53% winrate riki.

I am competent in all roles (I feel). I played SS and Mirana when SS was used for deathball line ups and got my WR up to 85% on both SS and POTM before it even out over more games.

I don't know. Seems like I pick support; carries are the most autistic retards ever. If I pick carry, my suppots are the most autistic ever. And if I offlane, mid or jungle? My whole team goes full retard.

Like I said currently sitting at 3400 and I have reached 4k on 5 different occasions so I know I can keep it, but the lack of english, region locking and all around terrible players are holding me back.

I also know I am not perfect, I fuck up a lot, make mistakes in games, but nowhere near as bad as some teams I have. I don't feel like most of the people I play with should even be at my rating.

[iiNGloriouS]

Also in a row might be an exaggeration, but 1 win inbetween 6-7 losses doesn't do anything.

Double post rage. Fuck dota. Fuck Valve. Nuke russia, murder all peruvians.

[Ragnaros]

ive only played league of legends and it was quite fun, whats the difference between dota and league i might consider playing dota in between pvp on eq

[iiNGloriouS]

ive only played league of legends and it was quite fun, whats the difference between dota and league i might consider playing dota in between pvp on eq

Too many things.

Can move in tree lines.
Can kill your own creeps below 50% hp to deny gold and experience.
Can stack jungle camps (pull them away at a certain time and another one spawns on top of it)
Lots of cool spell interactions with heroes and items.
More variables in your builds.

A lot of things.

[Mr Popo]

Hmmm, invoker is bad this patch and has been for a while. IDK why you pick brood when you are the low mmr, and I wouldn't suggest midding then either. If there is a time to first pick venge its when you know you are the low mmr, just ask what they want and pick appropriately. You hero selection and builds look ok to me. A lot of your losses you either got owned mid in higher mmr or your mates didn't do shit.

[iiNGloriouS]

Hmmm, invoker is bad this patch and has been for a while. IDK why you pick brood when you are the low mmr, and I wouldn't suggest midding then either. If there is a time to first pick venge its when you know you are the low mmr, just ask what they want and pick appropriately. You hero selection and builds look ok to me. A lot of your losses you either got owned mid in higher mmr or your mates didn't do shit.

I randomed brood first pick. Was an awful game. Dismiss that.

Invoker isn't TOO bad. I play both exort/wex at about the same skill.

Im not necessarily low mmr either 4100 mmr is supposed to be like top 2% for NA. But they play like that bottom 2% I swear.

Guess ill go back to first picking slark and smashing every game. Its just not very fun :/

[Bazia]

i will agree invoker has been shit ever since second item bkb on every core hero became a thing

[Mr Popo]

The main difference is that league has very defined roles, mid late carry, offlane defensive carry, safe lane farming carry, jungle ganker, and safelane support. Dota all kindas of strats are viable: the most common strat, tri-safe lane; jungler with solo offlane; duo safe/off lanes; aggro try offlane; roamer with solo offlane; or duo-wisp mid.

Also in Dota there are 2 types of supports, and generally you pick one of each, offensive support and defensive support. The role of supports in dota is very different in that they are not just ward bitches, although the defensive support definitely is. The offensive support is usually a character with a very effective stun or nuke that does not need any farm to fight at level 1-3. Support is dota is a character that does not need much farm or exp to get online and do some work. They usually should be trying to shutdown or zone out the enemy offlane, while allowing the safelane carry to farm up his items. The safe lane carry differs from the mid role since the mid needs exp and farm to get online, the safe lane carry usually just needs $.

On the topic of junglers, seems this patch that junglers are really terrible if they cannot affect the lanes. The only way to get money out of the jungle this patch is to stack, and obv thats not a great jungling strat. The other thing is at your mmr people are a lot better about warding to block camps and get vision of the 20% health jungler creeping. Bad news, bad news.

[Mr Popo]

I know you are obv a much better player than me, I just mean relative to the players you play with. Notice all of your mid losses are against higher skill teams pretty much? Just don't mid if you know you are the low mmr by a reasonable amount.

Slark is kinda shitty this patch too and I think you are better off with antimage in the #1 role. Slark needs a fair amount of items to do damage and stay alive in teamfights. This patch is all about coordinated ganks at the low levels and teamfighting at 15 minutes. Slark just isn't going to do that very well imo.

Like I said, I would take this wall of words with a pinch of salt, I could be all wrong and hope you got something out of it.

[Smedy]

Have you ever lost 19 ranked games in a row? Im thinking about just quitting went from 4050 mmr to 3480 these past two weeks; I know my mechanics have gotten slightly worse, but it truly is the autism that I have to deal with on a daily basis.

Hard to stay positive; honestly thinking about hanging up the mantle for good.

autism is hard to deal with and coming out like this publically on r&f is ballsy of you

i salute you and your autism jody, i always knew

[Bazia]

everquest autists has nothing on moba autists

not even close

[iiNGloriouS]

I know you are obv a much better player than me, I just mean relative to the players you play with. Notice all of your mid losses are against higher skill teams pretty much? Just don't mid if you know you are the low mmr by a reasonable amount.

Slark is kinda shitty this patch too and I think you are better off with antimage in the #1 role. Slark needs a fair amount of items to do damage and stay alive in teamfights. This patch is all about coordinated ganks at the low levels and teamfighting at 15 minutes. Slark just isn't going to do that very well imo.

Like I said, I would take this wall of words with a pinch of salt, I could be all wrong and hope you got something out of it.

Eh I feel like you kind of reversed that. AM is useless pre minute 25; I can get just SB on Slark, go ganking and turn into an absolute MONSTER if I can go 5-8 minutes unpunished.

Funny thing is my invoker games arent even lost due to BKBs, my last invoker game I lost because SD/Lesh wanted to duo against a tri; ended up dying 5-6 times before minute 10 and let spectre get absolutely no farm (talking Phase Boots at 16 minutes farm). Although I do agree generally, he was a great pick in that particular game if my team wasn't flaming each other from the getgo.

But everything is perspective, I don't think it helps that I've been in a bad mood most of these games, but for good reason. I haven't won more than 5 total games over many many many games.

I'll have to hit the chalkboard, either just sit and first pick instalock heroes I know I can just thrash on without contest (topkek Jugg).

[Smedy]

flailquest + noosequest on a 300 man community, do i need to say more?

[iiNGloriouS]

autism is hard to deal with and coming out like this publically on r&f is ballsy of you

i salute you and your autism jody, i always knew

Oh ill berg and yell on the mic, but I always seem to be the only one to make the right calls. Not headbutting my teammates or taking naked air-shits on toilets.

[Bazia]

yeah when im having a rough stretch i just pick the couple heroes I know I can win with in almost any lane (Brewmaster, Slardar for me)

[Mr Popo]

If you go 1-3-0-1 build with AM then he has all the initation he needs to get involved at lvl 6. He can blink in, merc someone and be the fuck out without any items. It's true he needs BF to really get his farm right, but he gets that online faster than any other hardcarry in the game.

Slark isn't going to be an effective initiator until he has 3k worth of items and then still a couple of well timed hardstuns and he totally falls apart. Sounds like you are playing slark mid and I think there is a reason why pros don't do this. His lack of range makes him too easy to be outplayed.

[Eslade]

I think that studies would show a direct correlation to the percentage of autists to how free to play a game is.

[LostCause]

bad alert

[LoliPops]

Fenniggles tryharding
http://i.imgur.com/LgG2UY4.jpg

[iiNGloriouS]

If you go 1-3-0-1 build with AM then he has all the initation he needs to get involved at lvl 6. He can blink in, merc someone and be the fuck out without any items. It's true he needs BF to really get his farm right, but he gets that online faster than any other hardcarry in the game.

Slark isn't going to be an effective initiator until he has 3k worth of items and then still a couple of well timed hardstuns and he totally falls apart. Sounds like you are playing slark mid and I think there is a reason why pros don't do this. His lack of range makes him too easy to be outplayed.

I've played Slark as offlane and carry. Hes a very gimmicky hero especially in the offlane, gotta know you're boundaries.

AM doesn't really have too much impact honestly. Especially if youre talking level 6 and below, he is dead in one stun. Almost guaranteed. Slark? Purge that shit and get a quick SB or leap the stun, which doesn't have an animation time like Blink. Plus if you know the tree lines well and where to juke, your ultimate becomes great. Turn the corner for one second and they lose LOS? More distance and insane HP recovery, as well as the quick cooldown on Leap which is only a little bit longer than AM Blink.

Plus if you're in the carry role, getting SB, Drums and BKB pre 25 minutes is really easy. And you can obviously skip drums if you dont need the survivability, chase and extra stats.

[Mr Popo]

I guess what I'm suggesting with AM is not to blink into the fight until someone else takes those skills to the face. Any rate, sounds like you know what you are doing so carry on imo.

[iiNGloriouS]

In an ideal world, that'd rock. But gotta think about it, at those levels when an ability goes off its at least 1/5 of your hp.

Your team is dead right as you blink in. Although itd work with good initiators and counter cc. Like cm es, nigma, vs and obv many others.

But its also solo queue. Can't trust no one. Shits like Gangland up in that bitch.

I do like am tho so ill probably play him more. He's a conservative pick but regardless he's fun when you get your early farm and fight. Plus Dat Immortal Set.

[Genedin]

I feel so deep into an MMR deficit every game I have some people with like 500 MMR and its an uphill struggle from minute one.

Last game I pulled my team out of a 9-30 ass beating as pudge, might just try pudge for 20 games in a row as he is one of the best tide turning heros in game.

Also, would love to make a dota2 team with some p99 pals.

[Nirgon]

dont play ranked

people do the same stupid shit / pick characters for the first time they ever played them, try retarded builds, are from 3rd world countries etc

just you dont care as much when you sit through 45 minutes of them acting retarded

[Agatha]

pretty much what nirgon says, i only play with a few pals. games are way to retarded and just terribly unpredictable with the possibility of going longer than 45 mins.

fuck that shit, who signs on to play a game for 45+ mins that matches you with retards.

why i don't play league or dota anymore is because the match making systems just suck, and will always suck.

[Genedin]

yea, its so stupid, I have like 1,500 games played and I will get put on a team with a guy who has 100 games played, like, what the fuck man, MMR aside the level of hero, item and map knowledge should be night and day between two players with that difference in games played

[Stasis01]

You're well on your path to become a rat NP like myself, ignore the game and make shit happen !

[Tomm Selleck]

You get streaks, you win some you lose some. I've hit 3k and thought about offing myself. Just getting back to 4k and to be honest I think its easier to climb mmr this patch. I fucking hated sniper troll pickers and the 90 minute games of 6.83

[Swish]

the complete lack of english speakers on US servers is also making me considering quitting

Welcome to Europe.

I have to import and turn up the EQ wind tunnel sound with every game - really terrible English or none at all.

[vouss]

Mr Popo good try, you are wrong though, about everything. Iinglorious's 53% win rate is enough to show you that, right?

[Mr Popo]

Mr Popo good try, you are wrong though, about everything. Iinglorious's 53% win rate is enough to show you that, right?

Wouldn't surprise me tbh. Still bad idea to pick mid when you are worst person on the team, whether or not you have 53% win. :P

[Nirgon]

that feel where the carry you are supporting hasn't gotten one of the last 20 uncontested last hits... so you start taking them

and they berg out in a language you do not understand

-- have english selected as sole preference
-- some other guy looking to shave 10 seconds of his queue time does also
-- should be able to report people as non native speakers to prevent them from being able to choose said option
-- guy begins pinging map wildly, more incomprehensible language
-- log into Dark Souls 2, doesn't matter what your skin color or how dumb yo brain is
-- parry scum, execute scum, profit

[Genedin]

Totally agree, need report tool for non English speakers. a fucking game that is based on teamwork and you dont speak the same language.

real talk, who are the most OP carries in the current meta I can just pick every game?

I would just make a new account but I've spent like $300 on my current terrible mmr account :/

[daasgoot]

dota 2 fails of the week, best video series on the net

this will keep you entertained for the next 80 hours

you are welcome

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNRQ-DWUXf4UVN9L31Y9f3Q

[daasgoot]

Totally agree, need report tool for non English speakers. a fucking game that is based on teamwork and you dont speak the same language.

real talk, who are the most OP carries in the current meta I can just pick every game?

I would just make a new account but I've spent like $300 on my current terrible mmr account :/

what do you mean u spent $300? do u mean in dota cosmetic items? those can be traded to a new accnt if so

[Genedin]

Oh really? Yea that's what I meant.

Might have to start playing on that new account then....although without knowing what they base MMR placement on I'm kind of worried still.

[vinnidel]

ITT i see alot of bad EQ players reassuring each other it's not their fault they suck at dota.

[Nirgon]

Pls link match ID of you carrying map ping spamming foreigners

[vinnidel]

if you cant carry yourself out of the mmr trench that you're complaining about, and into the land of englishspeakers and teamwork, then youre not good at dota imo.

[Stasis01]

I'd be higher if I didn't have so much fun fucking with my own retarded team mates most of the time.

[vouss]

ITT i see alot of bad EQ players reassuring each other it's not their fault they suck at dota.

if you cant carry yourself out of the mmr trench that you're complaining about, and into the land of englishspeakers and teamwork, then youre not good at dota imo.

exactly how I see it

[Bazia]

this is the dota venting thread not the common sense thread

kindly see urselves out peruvian lovers

[Snapple]

this is the dota venting thread not the common sense thread

kindly see urselves out peruvian lovers

haha

[iiNGloriouS]

if you cant carry yourself out of the mmr trench that you're complaining about, and into the land of englishspeakers and teamwork, then youre not good at dota imo.

But twerk you know I have my UPS and downs but this time its really affected me because I don't play as much.

When I went from 4100 to 3300 the first time I didn't care. I was playing 15+ matches a day and evening it out over the next week.

Plus you love our drow and support kunkka :P

Either way, ill probably carry myself out. But god damn I just had to vent for a sec

[vinnidel]

But twerk you know I have my UPS and downs but this time its really affected me because I don't play as much.

When I went from 4100 to 3300 the first time I didn't care. I was playing 15+ matches a day and evening it out over the next week.

Plus you love our drow and support kunkka :P

Either way, ill probably carry myself out. But god damn I just had to vent for a sec

ik bud im just trowlin' around. i was mostly referring to betas like nirgon/genedin who suck at clicking buttons on their keyboard but still type alot.

[BeautBabeC]

damn im 24/24 on my undying in the last 24 games solo ranked but ya been good luck with just probably having the better team mates. only up to 3500 tho

[Tradesonred]

Does dota2 ever get around to patching auto skillup and auto-gear?

The fact that these games dont ever have more than 1 map bores me to no end, so never got to play them alot.

I enjoy Smite alot more because it allows me to filthy casual it by having the auto-gear auto-skillup option. So the only thing i have to focus on, is level as fast as possible and get some kills, which is much easier for me to do in Smite since i lose 0 seconds trying to think about which items i should buy.

[Tradesonred]

Did dota, late night english

[iiNGloriouS]

They have guides written by players like Torte De Lini who makes one for every hero and they're SOLID. Especially if you aren't new gives descriptions of why they pick each item and why you use that instead of xyz.

[iiNGloriouS]

ik bud im just trowlin' around. i was mostly referring to betas like nirgon/genedin who suck at clicking buttons on their keyboard but still type alot.

So glad you were one of the only sane ones that didn't let a guild tag ruin our palship.

If you're on late tonight wanna play a few?

[Bazia]

Peruvian mid ember spirit, ended game 2-16 first item 29 minute battlefury

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/564/552/cd6.jpg

[iiNGloriouS]

Peruvian mid ember spirit, ended game 2-16 first item 29 minute battlefury

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/564/552/cd6.jpg

RIP

[TheBiznessTZ]

When I used to take league seriously and was grinding mmr sometimes you get caught in a a rut and have to take a break. I usually come back refreshed and clear minded and more patient with dealing with autists.

[Genedin]

I love it when people call me a bad everquest player. This game is so hard and I am so bad at it that it really hurts my feelings.