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Uteunayr
06-12-2015, 10:55 AM
Howdy,

Here's some logs on the higher level necro dots and their ticks. One interesting thing I saw is that the "bond" part of the Vexing Mordinia part expired one tick earlier, so the healing buff placed on the caster ends early. This is likely a bug, but I haven't recorded if just the message is bugged, and it still heals after.

[Fri Jun 12 10:06:16 2015] spectral commander has taken 11 damage from your Splurt.
[Fri Jun 12 10:06:22 2015] spectral commander has taken 23 damage from your Splurt.
[Fri Jun 12 10:06:28 2015] spectral commander has taken 35 damage from your Splurt.
[Fri Jun 12 10:06:34 2015] spectral commander has taken 47 damage from your Splurt.
[Fri Jun 12 10:06:40 2015] spectral commander has taken 59 damage from your Splurt.
[Fri Jun 12 10:06:46 2015] spectral commander has taken 71 damage from your Splurt.
[Fri Jun 12 10:06:52 2015] spectral commander has taken 83 damage from your Splurt.
[Fri Jun 12 10:06:58 2015] spectral commander has taken 95 damage from your Splurt.
[Fri Jun 12 10:07:04 2015] spectral commander has taken 107 damage from your Splurt.
[Fri Jun 12 10:07:10 2015] spectral commander has taken 119 damage from your Splurt.
[Fri Jun 12 10:07:16 2015] spectral commander has taken 131 damage from your Splurt.
[Fri Jun 12 10:07:22 2015] spectral commander has taken 143 damage from your Splurt.
[Fri Jun 12 10:07:28 2015] spectral commander has taken 155 damage from your Splurt.
[Fri Jun 12 10:07:34 2015] spectral commander has taken 167 damage from your Splurt.
[Fri Jun 12 10:07:40 2015] spectral commander has taken 179 damage from your Splurt.
[Fri Jun 12 10:07:46 2015] spectral commander has taken 191 damage from your Splurt.
[Fri Jun 12 10:07:46 2015] Your Splurt spell has worn off.
Splurt Total: 1616 damage. 6.733 dpm.

[Fri Jun 12 10:06:37 2015] spectral commander was hit by non-melee for 110 points of damage.
[Fri Jun 12 10:06:37 2015] Spectral commander has been poisoned.
[Fri Jun 12 10:06:40 2015] spectral commander has taken 146 damage from your Envenomed Bolt.
[Fri Jun 12 10:06:46 2015] spectral commander has taken 146 damage from your Envenomed Bolt.
[Fri Jun 12 10:06:52 2015] spectral commander has taken 146 damage from your Envenomed Bolt.
[Fri Jun 12 10:06:58 2015] spectral commander has taken 146 damage from your Envenomed Bolt.
[Fri Jun 12 10:07:04 2015] spectral commander has taken 146 damage from your Envenomed Bolt.
[Fri Jun 12 10:07:10 2015] spectral commander has taken 146 damage from your Envenomed Bolt.
[Fri Jun 12 10:07:16 2015] spectral commander has taken 146 damage from your Envenomed Bolt.
[Fri Jun 12 10:07:22 2015] spectral commander has taken 146 damage from your Envenomed Bolt.
[Fri Jun 12 10:07:22 2015] Your Envenomed Bolt spell has worn off.
Envenomed Bolt Total: 1278 damage. 3.994 dpm.

[Fri Jun 12 10:06:42 2015] Spectral commander's blood ignites.
[Fri Jun 12 10:06:46 2015] spectral commander has taken 111 damage from your Pyrocruor.
[Fri Jun 12 10:06:52 2015] spectral commander has taken 111 damage from your Pyrocruor.
[Fri Jun 12 10:06:58 2015] spectral commander has taken 111 damage from your Pyrocruor.
[Fri Jun 12 10:07:04 2015] spectral commander has taken 111 damage from your Pyrocruor.
[Fri Jun 12 10:07:10 2015] spectral commander has taken 111 damage from your Pyrocruor.
[Fri Jun 12 10:07:16 2015] spectral commander has taken 111 damage from your Pyrocruor.
[Fri Jun 12 10:07:22 2015] spectral commander has taken 111 damage from your Pyrocruor.
[Fri Jun 12 10:07:28 2015] spectral commander has taken 111 damage from your Pyrocruor.
[Fri Jun 12 10:07:34 2015] spectral commander has taken 111 damage from your Pyrocruor.
[Fri Jun 12 10:07:40 2015] spectral commander has taken 111 damage from your Pyrocruor.
[Fri Jun 12 10:07:46 2015] spectral commander has taken 111 damage from your Pyrocruor.
[Fri Jun 12 10:07:52 2015] spectral commander has taken 111 damage from your Pyrocruor.
[Fri Jun 12 10:07:58 2015] spectral commander has taken 111 damage from your Pyrocruor.
[Fri Jun 12 10:08:04 2015] spectral commander has taken 111 damage from your Pyrocruor.
[Fri Jun 12 10:08:10 2015] spectral commander has taken 111 damage from your Pyrocruor.
[Fri Jun 12 10:08:16 2015] spectral commander has taken 111 damage from your Pyrocruor.
[Fri Jun 12 10:08:22 2015] spectral commander has taken 111 damage from your Pyrocruor.
[Fri Jun 12 10:08:28 2015] spectral commander has taken 111 damage from your Pyrocruor.
[Fri Jun 12 10:08:34 2015] spectral commander has taken 111 damage from your Pyrocruor.
[Fri Jun 12 10:08:34 2015] Your Pyrocruor spell has worn off.

[Fri Jun 12 10:06:48 2015] Spectral commander's blood stills within their veins.
[Fri Jun 12 10:06:52 2015] spectral commander has taken 100 damage from your Cessation of Cor.
[Fri Jun 12 10:06:58 2015] spectral commander has taken 100 damage from your Cessation of Cor.
[Fri Jun 12 10:07:04 2015] spectral commander has taken 100 damage from your Cessation of Cor.
[Fri Jun 12 10:07:10 2015] spectral commander has taken 100 damage from your Cessation of Cor.
[Fri Jun 12 10:07:16 2015] spectral commander has taken 100 damage from your Cessation of Cor.
[Fri Jun 12 10:07:22 2015] spectral commander has taken 100 damage from your Cessation of Cor.
[Fri Jun 12 10:07:28 2015] spectral commander has taken 100 damage from your Cessation of Cor.
[Fri Jun 12 10:07:34 2015] spectral commander has taken 100 damage from your Cessation of Cor.
[Fri Jun 12 10:07:40 2015] spectral commander has taken 100 damage from your Cessation of Cor.
[Fri Jun 12 10:07:46 2015] spectral commander has taken 100 damage from your Cessation of Cor.
[Fri Jun 12 10:07:52 2015] spectral commander has taken 100 damage from your Cessation of Cor.
[Fri Jun 12 10:07:52 2015] Your Cessation of Cor spell has worn off.
Cessation of Cor Total: 1100 damage. 4.4 DPM


[Fri Jun 12 10:06:55 2015] spectral commander was hit by non-melee for 60 points of damage.
[Fri Jun 12 10:06:55 2015] Spectral commander sweats and shivers, looking feverish.
[Fri Jun 12 10:06:58 2015] spectral commander has taken 55 damage from your Plague.
[Fri Jun 12 10:07:04 2015] spectral commander has taken 55 damage from your Plague.
[Fri Jun 12 10:07:10 2015] spectral commander has taken 55 damage from your Plague.
[Fri Jun 12 10:07:16 2015] spectral commander has taken 55 damage from your Plague.
[Fri Jun 12 10:07:22 2015] spectral commander has taken 55 damage from your Plague.
[Fri Jun 12 10:07:28 2015] spectral commander has taken 55 damage from your Plague.
[Fri Jun 12 10:07:34 2015] spectral commander has taken 55 damage from your Plague.
[Fri Jun 12 10:07:40 2015] spectral commander has taken 55 damage from your Plague.
[Fri Jun 12 10:07:46 2015] spectral commander has taken 55 damage from your Plague.
[Fri Jun 12 10:07:52 2015] spectral commander has taken 55 damage from your Plague.
[Fri Jun 12 10:07:58 2015] spectral commander has taken 55 damage from your Plague.
[Fri Jun 12 10:08:04 2015] spectral commander has taken 55 damage from your Plague.
[Fri Jun 12 10:08:10 2015] spectral commander has taken 55 damage from your Plague.
[Fri Jun 12 10:08:16 2015] spectral commander has taken 55 damage from your Plague.
[Fri Jun 12 10:08:22 2015] spectral commander has taken 55 damage from your Plague.
[Fri Jun 12 10:08:28 2015] spectral commander has taken 55 damage from your Plague.
[Fri Jun 12 10:08:34 2015] spectral commander has taken 55 damage from your Plague.
[Fri Jun 12 10:08:40 2015] spectral commander has taken 55 damage from your Plague.
[Fri Jun 12 10:08:46 2015] spectral commander has taken 55 damage from your Plague.
[Fri Jun 12 10:08:52 2015] spectral commander has taken 55 damage from your Plague.
[Fri Jun 12 10:08:58 2015] spectral commander has taken 36 damage from your Plague.
[Fri Jun 12 10:09:04 2015] spectral commander has taken 55 damage from your Plague.
[Fri Jun 12 10:09:04 2015] Your Plague spell has worn off.
Plague Total: 1270 damage. 4.23 dpm.

[Fri Jun 12 10:12:25 2015] Spectral commander staggers under the curse of Vexing Mordinia.
[Fri Jun 12 10:12:29 2015] spectral commander has taken 111 damage from your Vexing Mordinia.
[Fri Jun 12 10:12:35 2015] spectral commander has taken 111 damage from your Vexing Mordinia.
[Fri Jun 12 10:12:41 2015] spectral commander has taken 111 damage from your Vexing Mordinia.
[Fri Jun 12 10:12:47 2015] spectral commander has taken 111 damage from your Vexing Mordinia.
[Fri Jun 12 10:12:53 2015] spectral commander has taken 111 damage from your Vexing Mordinia.
[Fri Jun 12 10:12:59 2015] spectral commander has taken 111 damage from your Vexing Mordinia.
[Fri Jun 12 10:13:05 2015] spectral commander has taken 111 damage from your Vexing Mordinia.
[Fri Jun 12 10:13:11 2015] spectral commander has taken 111 damage from your Vexing Mordinia.
[Fri Jun 12 10:13:17 2015] spectral commander has taken 111 damage from your Vexing Mordinia.
[Fri Jun 12 10:13:21 2015] The Mordinia fades.
[Fri Jun 12 10:13:23 2015] spectral commander has taken 111 damage from your Vexing Mordinia.
[Fri Jun 12 10:13:23 2015] Your Vexing Mordinia spell has worn off.
Vexing Mordinia Total: 1110 damage. 2.24 dpm.


[Fri Jun 12 10:16:36 2015] Spectral commander is engulfed in darkness.
[Fri Jun 12 10:16:41 2015] spectral commander has taken 13 damage from your Dooming Darkness.
[Fri Jun 12 10:16:47 2015] spectral commander has taken 13 damage from your Dooming Darkness.
[Fri Jun 12 10:16:53 2015] spectral commander has taken 13 damage from your Dooming Darkness.
[Fri Jun 12 10:16:59 2015] spectral commander has taken 20 damage from your Dooming Darkness.
[Fri Jun 12 10:17:05 2015] spectral commander has taken 20 damage from your Dooming Darkness.
[Fri Jun 12 10:17:11 2015] spectral commander has taken 20 damage from your Dooming Darkness.
[Fri Jun 12 10:17:17 2015] spectral commander has taken 20 damage from your Dooming Darkness.
[Fri Jun 12 10:17:23 2015] spectral commander has taken 20 damage from your Dooming Darkness.
[Fri Jun 12 10:17:29 2015] spectral commander has taken 20 damage from your Dooming Darkness.
[Fri Jun 12 10:17:35 2015] spectral commander has taken 20 damage from your Dooming Darkness.
[Fri Jun 12 10:17:41 2015] spectral commander has taken 20 damage from your Dooming Darkness.
[Fri Jun 12 10:17:47 2015] spectral commander has taken 20 damage from your Dooming Darkness.
[Fri Jun 12 10:17:53 2015] spectral commander has taken 20 damage from your Dooming Darkness.
[Fri Jun 12 10:17:59 2015] spectral commander has taken 20 damage from your Dooming Darkness.
[Fri Jun 12 10:18:05 2015] spectral commander has taken 20 damage from your Dooming Darkness.
[Fri Jun 12 10:18:11 2015] spectral commander has taken 20 damage from your Dooming Darkness.
[Fri Jun 12 10:18:11 2015] Your Dooming Darkness spell has worn off.

Daldaen
06-12-2015, 10:58 AM
So Splurt is still a tick short then?

Because it's supposed to have a base duration of 16 ticks and gain the additional server wide tick.

I'm seeing only 16 there.

Uteunayr
06-12-2015, 11:05 AM
That is my understanding, yeah. Splurt is supposed to have 16 ticks, and Cessation is supposed to have 10. Splurt should always have 6 more ticks. If there is this bonus server wide tick, and Cessation has 11, then Splurt should have 17.

Uteunayr
06-12-2015, 11:28 AM
Well, apparently I can't edit the OP any longer to continue updating the DPM totals, so new post!

Splurt Total: 1616 damage. 6.733 dpm.

Envenomed Bolt Total: 1278 damage. 3.994 dpm.

Pyrocruor Total: 2109 damage. 5.273 dpm.

Cessation of Cor Total: 1100 damage. 4.4 dpm.

Plague Total: 1270 damage. 4.23 dpm.

Vexing Mordinia Total: 1110 damage. 2.24 dpm.

Dooming Darkness Total: 320 damage. 2.66 dpm.

Grimjaw
06-12-2015, 11:34 AM
dald - looks like splurt is properly 16 ticks now. that extra tick we fought hard for.

asking for the bonus tick is something different that affects all spells, when timed exactly right with the server tick. that's something different

Technique
06-12-2015, 12:32 PM
the "bond" part of the Vexing Mordinia part expired one tick earlier, so the healing buff placed on the caster ends early. This is likely a bug, but I haven't recorded if just the message is bugged, and it still heals after.It doesn't. The heal is a seperate effect: Vexing Mordinia Recourse (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=2474&source=Live). This is a side effect of the bonus tick change being applied to DoTs only. Classically these recourse effects didn't exist; the damage and healing durations of the lifetap over time spells were linked.

Uteunayr
06-12-2015, 12:52 PM
It doesn't. The heal is a seperate effect: Vexing Mordinia Recourse (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=2474&source=Live). This is a side effect of the bonus tick change being applied to DoTs only. Classically these recourse effects didn't exist; the damage and healing durations of the lifetap over time spells were linked.

Alright, then a bug report needs to go in about the Recourse effects also being bumped up by 1 tick to match the damage dealt. I just didn't personally test the healing involved, so I didn't want to make a definitive claim until I tried it.

koros
06-15-2015, 04:15 PM
I haven't played in a while, but it looks like the +1 all dot wide tick is correctly added, but splurt is still sitting as base 15 ticks, when it should be base 16 ticks.

Grimjaw
06-15-2015, 05:30 PM
I haven't played in a while, but it looks like the +1 all dot wide tick is correctly added, but splurt is still sitting as base 15 ticks, when it should be base 16 ticks.

what are you trying to say? do I need to count the ticks for you?

1[Fri Jun 12 10:06:16 2015] spectral commander has taken 11 damage from your Splurt.
2[Fri Jun 12 10:06:22 2015] spectral commander has taken 23 damage from your Splurt.
3[Fri Jun 12 10:06:28 2015] spectral commander has taken 35 damage from your Splurt.
4[Fri Jun 12 10:06:34 2015] spectral commander has taken 47 damage from your Splurt.
5[Fri Jun 12 10:06:40 2015] spectral commander has taken 59 damage from your Splurt.
6[Fri Jun 12 10:06:46 2015] spectral commander has taken 71 damage from your Splurt.
7[Fri Jun 12 10:06:52 2015] spectral commander has taken 83 damage from your Splurt.
8[Fri Jun 12 10:06:58 2015] spectral commander has taken 95 damage from your Splurt.
9[Fri Jun 12 10:07:04 2015] spectral commander has taken 107 damage from your Splurt.
10[Fri Jun 12 10:07:10 2015] spectral commander has taken 119 damage from your Splurt.
11[Fri Jun 12 10:07:16 2015] spectral commander has taken 131 damage from your Splurt.
12[Fri Jun 12 10:07:22 2015] spectral commander has taken 143 damage from your Splurt.
13[Fri Jun 12 10:07:28 2015] spectral commander has taken 155 damage from your Splurt.
14[Fri Jun 12 10:07:34 2015] spectral commander has taken 167 damage from your Splurt.
15[Fri Jun 12 10:07:40 2015] spectral commander has taken 179 damage from your Splurt.
16[Fri Jun 12 10:07:46 2015] spectral commander has taken 191 damage from your Splurt.
[Fri Jun 12 10:07:46 2015] Your Splurt spell has worn off.

Uteunayr
06-16-2015, 07:27 AM
What he means is this:

Spells have a base number of ticks. The +1 tick is a bonus server tick that could happen to DoTs back in classic.

So Cessation of Cor is 10 ticks, but now it ticks 11 times because of the bonus server tick.

Splurt has 15 ticks, but now receives a bonus server tick.

Splurt should have 16 ticks base, and then receive a bonus tick on top of that.

A handy way to think of it: Splurt should always tick 6 more times than Cessation of Cor.

It should tick as follows:

11, 23, 35, 47, 59, 71, 83, 95, 107, 119, 131, 143, 155, 167, 179, 191, 203.

Some evidence to this that was presented in the thread in bug discussion:

From Necrotalk (http://www.necrotalk.com/archive/index.php/t-2181.html) in 2004:

"-splurt damage ticks are 0 11 23 35 47 59 71 83 95 107 119 131 143 155 167 179 191 203 = 1819 damage"

From Necrotalk (http://www.necrotalk.com/archive/index.php/t-158.html) in 2003:

Question: "hey i was just wondering how much damage the spell splurt is and how long it lasts it is like 16 24 38 49 53 ..... blaa blaa... 180 192 210 or something to that effect and was wondering if any one out there took the time to add it all up if i rember right it does around 1600 damage over all and im pretty asure it lasts under 2mins 6 seconds"

Answer: "Well it starts out at 11 and then does about 12 more per tick so let's count

11, 23, 35, 47, 59, 71, 83, 95, 107, 119, 131, 143, 155, 167, 179, 191, 203, stop

add it all up and it equal 1819 at level 55"

From Zam (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/spell.html?spell=1620#m105547656970427) in 2004:

"This is the actual DMG of Splurt w/o Extended Affliction which on this date does not actually effect splurt. (Don't Worry I /bug 'd it)

11, 23, 35, 47, 59, 71, 83, 95, 107, 119, 131, 143, 155, 167, 179, 191, 203.

1819 Damage over 17 ticks."

Grimjaw
06-16-2015, 02:28 PM
uhh those are 2 separate things... and I think a lot of you are getting it confused, not me.


so your telling me that they added the possible bonus tick, even though it happens every time no matter what?

I thought they just fixed the correct amount of ticks on spells (not talking about any bonus ticks, just the proper amount of ticks without any bonus ticks)...

and the possible bonus tick (when timed with the server, which would happen rarely, not every time) still needs to be resolved.....


and that still doesn't explain what he meant by "Base 15" when Cleary its 16 ticks...

You think that every single test you did was somehow magically timed perfectly with the server to activate this possible bonus tick???????



if that's how they actually implemented, then this is a HUGE fuck up!

I thought they were just correcting the proper amount of ticks because splurt was already 1 tick short even without cinsidering any bonus tick.......

Uteunayr
06-16-2015, 02:41 PM
uhh those are 2 separate things... and I think a lot of you are getting it confused, not me.


so your telling me that they added the possible bonus tick, even though it happens every time no matter what?

I thought they just fixed the correct amount of ticks on spells (not talking about any bonus ticks, just the proper amount of ticks without any bonus ticks)...

and the possible bonus tick (when timed with the server, which would happen rarely, not every time) still needs to be resolved.....


and that still doesn't explain what he meant by "Base 15" when Cleary its 16 ticks...

You think that every single test you did was somehow magically timed perfectly with the server to activate this possible bonus tick???????



if that's how they actually implemented, then this is a HUGE fuck up!

I thought they were just correcting the proper amount of ticks because splurt was already 1 tick short even without cinsidering any bonus tick.......

Right now, you always get the bonus server tick. That's how the patch was implemented for the time being. Every spell's base ticking is 1 less than how many ticks it gets, because the recent patch introduced this. I am guessing that rather than trying to work out the mechanics of simulating the sometimes bonus tick, they just gave every spell one extra bonus tick to simulate this. Also note, it wasn't that rare. It was quite common.

The base ticks for Cessation is 10. But it ticks 11 times because of the server tick.

The base ticks for Splurt is 15. But it ticks 16 times because of the server tick.

The base ticks for Splurt, prior to the server tick that was added in the last patch, needs to be 16. There should be a 203 tick as a final tick.

The extra tick that was added in this last patch is a separate deal from Splurt having too few ticks. Splurt never ticked just 15 times, as prior to this server tick, it was always a 16 tick. This patch, in other words, made Splurt tick its proper base amount, but it doesn't get a bonus server tick like the other dots.

If we are going to say that Splurt is where it should be, ticking 16 times, then other DoTS out there is ticking 1 too many times. If we say that every other DoT is ticking the right number of times (taking the server tick as granted, 100% chance), then Splurt is ticking 1 too few times.

Grimjaw
06-16-2015, 05:24 PM
well.. if you are correct

then this is a HUGE fuck up!

and this is how I feel

If we are going to say that Splurt is where it should be, ticking 16 times, then other DoTS out there is ticking 1 too many times.

koros
06-16-2015, 06:03 PM
FFS. Go read the dot and splurt threads in the bug section. We know what we're talking about. There was no "possible bonus tick", it was added at the same time as the 66% damage from a moving target kiting nerf, way back in 99.

Splurt ticked 17 times, always, for 1819 total.

Grimjaw
06-17-2015, 01:49 AM
^ Wow.. even more misinformation added to the heaping shitpile of this thread. Thanks Koros.

Well.. turns out I was right and you are all dead wrong.

koros - splurt suppose to be 16 ticks not 17. the 17th tick would be the magically proper timed bonus tick.


Uteunayr - They didnt figure out the best way to implement the "potential bonus tick" yet. so your totally fucking wrong this entire thread. they just fixed dots like splurt was missing the 16th tick. They are still working on the "potential bonus tick".

Can we get some clarification on this change? Because some people thought you fixed dots that were 1 tick too short, such as splurt... While others assume that you patched in that "potential bonus tick" that could potentially happen to any dot, when it gets timed to exactly align with the server tick.

So which is it? did you just fix a few dots that were too short? or did you add in the "potential bonus tick" to every spell?

No bonus tick. But I think I figured out why there was one at all.

H

Uteunayr
06-17-2015, 09:35 AM
FFS. Go read the dot and splurt threads in the bug section. We know what we're talking about. There was no "possible bonus tick", it was added at the same time as the 66% damage from a moving target kiting nerf, way back in 99.

Splurt ticked 17 times, always, for 1819 total.

At this point, he is either trolling, or genuinely too resistant to reading. I am leaning forward the former, so I wont be feeding any more.

Here's the link in case anyone wants to read:

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=189452

Grimjaw
06-17-2015, 11:45 AM
look dude I just linked a reply from the dev who implemented it. if you want to consider that trolling then go for it. but what you and koros are fighting for hasn't even been implemented yet.

koros
06-17-2015, 03:07 PM
look dude I just linked a reply from the dev who implemented it. if you want to consider that trolling then go for it. but what you and koros are fighting for hasn't even been implemented yet.

That's because he thought it was supposed to go in with Velious. It's not the end of the world, but I gave evidence it's always been that way since Kunark launch.

Straightforward run down of what happened:

1. There was no "occasional" bonus tick, it was an "always" bonus tick, that was added to all dots to counterbalance the 66% kiting nerf in sept 99. We pointed it out to the devs. The code just said "Get the duration from the spell database and add 1 tick."
2. We also point out that splurt is ticking 15x instead of 16x.
3. Devs acknowledge 1 and 2, and change 1 (and have 2 set to change at Velious release). So now Splurt is ticking 15 + 1 (duration + 1), instead of 16 + 1 (correct duration + 1)
4. I/We give evidence that splurt is 16x base at the beginning of Kunark, not the beginning of Velious. Point out an extra tick should be added now and not later.

Ya dig?

Grimjaw
06-18-2015, 12:49 AM
man you guys are out to lunch. regardless if the "extra tick" is suppose to happen always or not... thats not what was implemented so your still wrong with point 3. point 2 (splurt being short) is exactly what was fixed.

do i serously need to re-quote the GM's clarification on that patch note? Maybe it will stick for you this time...
No bonus tick. But I think I figured out why there was one at all.

H


also once Uteunayr was proven wrong in this thread by me, he makes a 90 degree turn and agrees with you to say "oh well i wasnt talking about a potential bonus tick... but one that always is supposed to be there" .... ya ok, give me a break... go reread this thread he mentions the potential bonus tick like 5 times until i showed him thats not what the GM fixed.


edit: also for the record i still dont agree with point 1. i believe the bonus tick comes from being timed exactly correct with the 6 second server tick. none of this shit your mentioning

your entire post of proof about splurt going up to 203 is refuted by the next poster...

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/spell.html?spell=1620#m105547656970427

This spell does not go to 203 dmg. The last tick is 191 dmg on this spell. I also as a previous poster has stated, have never seen this spell resisted except on high end named mobs. Because it has such a low initial dmg and builds to it's max, it has an especially low agro when using it.

I used to use it allot, but after getting funeral pyre I rarely use it anymore. I would still load this spell however, if I just wanted to overstack some mob with umpteen dots as it stacks with any other dot line we have.


the confusion of that comes into play with...

wait for it...

THE POTENTIAL BONUS TICK IF TIMED CORRECTLY WITH THE SERVER 6 SECOND TICK

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f184/Schimid/THE-RAP-BATTLE.gif


Haynar knows whats up, and that's the main point in all this.