Low level Enchanter spells?

[Korain]

So I recently made an Enchanter on blue as they're much easier to solo with than a Monk. I was looking over the spell list, and I was curious about which spells were considered "best" or "required". For example, I notice that Enchanters can get Lull at level 1, but then they get Soothe at level 8. Is picking Lull up worth it just to replace it with Soothe at level 8? Is Lull perhaps better because it works on the same mobs and has a lower mana cost, regardless of the lower duration? I've already read the case for the first mes spell over the rest, and that one makes sense, despite there being little room to do much else during.

What level do groups typically start asking for Enchanter buffs as well? I am going in with the assumption that first level strength spell and such are likely not worth the investment.

[nhdjoseywales]

buy the spells, they arent that expensive and otherwise at level 5 when you are trying to split a camp with no lull you will hate yourself

[corilla]

You don't have to buy all the spells right as you level up, but I'd try to go back and backfill once you can afford it. Some really are junk though and can be skipped - things like True North or other super-narrow utility spells. Check out this guide (http://wiki.project1999.com/Xornn%27s_Enchanter_Spell_Guide) if you haven't already to help you prioritize what spells to get at each level.

For group buffs, you are right that the early levels you don't need to really use them. You could throw strengthen on the melee types if you're at full mana, as it will help, but the effect is so small they'll barely notice. You're buffs become valuable at level 16 when you get Breeze and Quickness. At that point your group members (and random passers-by) will be begging for your buffs.

[Daldaen]

You'll want all your spells eventually IMO.

Lull is used as a low mana spell however it has a small assist range removal, so if mobs are tightly packed it won't prevent assist when a better spell would've. This is mostly found in dense rooms, but for your situation where two mobs are in opposite corners of a room, lull works just fine.

At 16 you will get Breeze requests. I forget when Enchanter's first haste is and melee will ask for it. If you aren't CCing much maintain haste on the melee. But honestly your mana is better spent CCing or Charm DPS over recasting haste on melee every 5 minutes.

Strength isn't much help for DPS purposes. It has great use as a filler buff on a charmed pet who may get dispelled, or on a caster who is encumbered/on yourself as a filler buff to prevent dispells.

[Rayzor84]

Only spells that I never really used are the cast sight/bind sight types, and sentinel.

[Swish]

Daldaen needs to stick to his druid/cleric I think.

You won't get much use out of whirl til you hurl on blue, though it's fun to have in your book.

First haste is at 16 (come on Dal, wiki is a click away)... but it lasts about 7 minutes and is expensive. You'll definitely use it but it's a PITA to have to keep recasting. That'll get easier as you level, and you can palm people off with an augmentation (less haste but has stat benefits) which lasts longer at 29.

If you're soloing a lot, definitely buy your "Rune" line of spells and keep stocked with the relevant gems that consume as you cast it. It'll save a lot of sitting around in troll illusion waiting for HP to regenerate.

You'll want your AE mez spell at 16 which is research only but a real life saver if you overpull.

Beyond that, trial and error is definitely something that'll make you a better enchanter - not the easiest class to master but it's a lot of fun along the way as long as people assist the tank rather than hitting what they like ;)

[Korain]

If you're soloing a lot, definitely buy your "Rune" line of spells and keep stocked with the relevant gems that consume as you cast it. It'll save a lot of sitting around in troll illusion waiting for HP to regenerate.

I had no idea that illusions gave racial bonuses. Does this hold true for the Iksar illusion?

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[Swish]

I had no idea that illusions gave racial bonuses. Does this hold true for the Iksar illusion?

No that's a troll only thing.

If you ever make a necro alt, skeleton illusion can help you bank in evil cities without any hassle (Neriak/Grobb/Oggok/etc).

Fire elemental illusion gives a damage shield, air elemental gives you levitate.

Illusions are great :D

Does the enchanter wolf illusion give +atk like it does for rangers/druids? Not that you'd melee :p

[corilla]

Does the enchanter wolf illusion give +atk like it does for rangers/druids? Not that you'd melee :p

It does indeed! It also gives you the special ability to be harassed for SoW.

Water elemental illusion also gives you water breathing!

[ECDubz]

for leveling an enchanter and prioritizing spells i recommend top to bottom in order of need.

Pet untill 12 (then charm replaces this priority)
Mez spells
Tash
Haste/Slow
DD
Dot
Stun
Calming spells

I dont recommend getting the debuffing spells for strength as for me i rarely ever use them. I also highly recommend using charm soloing as your prime leveling strategy when not actively grouping. When it comes down to the Lull line (calming spells) these are used mainly for breaking camps and depends what spells will effect what level mobs you can use it on. I highly recommend getting all levels of all spells because you may go somewhere lower level and want to not use a level 49 spell on a level 16 mob. Just my 2 cents.

Enchanters start getting bugged for buffs starting at 16.

[williestargell]

I always think it's hilarious when people try to save money by not buying a vendor spell. I mean really how cheap can you get. The most expensive vendor spells at high level are 7p, and are mere gold at low level....come on man!

In the time it took you to post this question you could have looted enough trash to buy every vendor spell for a whole level. Each time you check back to read the recommendations that's another level of spells you could have bought.

Don't look at this thread again until you get high enough level to worry about spell research or are buying dropped spells!

[ECDubz]

I always think it's hilarious when people try to save money by not buying a vendor spell. I mean really how cheap can you get. The most expensive vendor spells at high level are 7p, and are mere gold at low level....come on man!

In the time it took you to post this question you could have looted enough trash to buy every vendor spell for a whole level. Each time you check back to read the recommendations that's another level of spells you could have bought.

Don't look at this thread again until you get high enough level to worry about spell research or are buying dropped spells!

the most expensive vendor spells at high level are actually 24-28 plat each depending on faction and charisma and it gets to be about 5-6 plat around 12-16 maybe earlier and to add onto that spells are 5-6 gold at level 4

[Korain]

I always think it's hilarious when people try to save money by not buying a vendor spell. I mean really how cheap can you get. The most expensive vendor spells at high level are 7p, and are mere gold at low level....come on man!

In the time it took you to post this question you could have looted enough trash to buy every vendor spell for a whole level. Each time you check back to read the recommendations that's another level of spells you could have bought.

Don't look at this thread again until you get high enough level to worry about spell research or are buying dropped spells!

If I felt that the question wasn't worth asking, I wouldn't ask it. But thanks for playing.

[kremlar]

I always think it's hilarious when people try to save money by not buying a vendor spell. I mean really how cheap can you get. The most expensive vendor spells at high level are 7p, and are mere gold at low level....come on man!

In the time it took you to post this question you could have looted enough trash to buy every vendor spell for a whole level. Each time you check back to read the recommendations that's another level of spells you could have bought.

Don't look at this thread again until you get high enough level to worry about spell research or are buying dropped spells!

You should check the vendors. The prices for spells on the wiki aren't accurate, level 8 spells cost a bit over 4pp each.. and there is a ton of fluff in the enchanter repertoire so you're looking at some 70-80 plat by level 8 to just buy everything.

This isn't something a fresh account can reasonably afford, you do have to pick and choose up to that point. And at level 8 when you can start killing wisps and are able to buy them... you're still probably better off saving the money towards better gear instead of getting some wood elf illusion nonsense.

[B4EQWASCOOL]

There are worthless spells in the game. Why buy them?