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lite

05-31-2015, 03:33 PM

Manually triggered simulated repops are not stimulating pvp at all, as they are too inconsistent and noone plans for them. Many people don't even know that they are actually a thing.

For the few weeks that repops were triggered with consistency, we saw the biggest spike in PVP ALL over Norrath. Not just Seb, KC. Everything was being contested, and everyone was fighting to keep control in different regions. PVP in VP/EJ/Skyfire/Fear/Hate.. you name it, competing guilds were there.

90 man zerg forces were not sitting in KC every week at the same time waiting to start the cycle all over again.

Things were great, let's allow AUTOMATICALLY triggered sim pops to bring that back to life.

LoliPops

05-31-2015, 03:34 PM

http://www.clker.com/cliparts/p/E/L/h/c/3/pig-on-computer-hi.png

magician

05-31-2015, 03:46 PM

hey can we talk about your recent skeleton file hack debacle instead

dontbanpls

05-31-2015, 03:47 PM

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All of the pvp that isn't happening according to Lite.

Tameth

05-31-2015, 03:50 PM

Lite doesn't play Everquest, Max. This is the reason he believes there to be zero pvp. Also, he's a multi-boxing nameplate hacker.

TheBiznessTZ

05-31-2015, 04:05 PM

dontbanpls

05-31-2015, 04:09 PM

iruinedyourday

05-31-2015, 04:25 PM

i love mad max the movie is good too.

Colgate

05-31-2015, 04:33 PM

Madbad

05-31-2015, 05:16 PM

Dude, A Pup Named Scooby-Doo

iruinedyourday

05-31-2015, 05:21 PM

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25736152/EQ/sad.jpg

lite

05-31-2015, 07:25 PM

i don't get it, sim repops almost never caused PvP

all they caused were azrael attempting to port from zone to zone and kill raid mobs before we could find them, and if we did, they'd just run away or log off until we left

that's the product of them being triggered months apart from one another. Noone is really prepared except the guild freely farming the server, and you get that case.

The first few weeks when it went off, Nilly and Azrael had so much competition everywhere.

Sirken can attest to this, we spoke about what a success sim repops were.

Stasis01

05-31-2015, 07:27 PM

But there's lots of PVP and we're hitting record population/number of guilds?

Stasis01

05-31-2015, 07:27 PM

You can help the box remake Azrael and take #4 behind Empire/GG/TMO

Colgate

05-31-2015, 07:29 PM

Noone is really prepared

so it's your fault and not the fault of the ruleset, GMs, or developers

lol

minakto

05-31-2015, 07:42 PM

Last repop was not manually triggered it was closest thing to a live patch...

snufzaimoverlord

05-31-2015, 07:53 PM

I wonder if there is a client side fix to this blaytent spawn issue we have.

lite

05-31-2015, 08:57 PM

so it's your fault and not the fault of the ruleset, GMs, or developers

lol

no, just noone gives a fuck... you know, kind of like how most Holocaust "hard core" members did, when Nihilum was running the zerg game.

you know, back when you used to make fun of people who presented themselves to every spawn the way you do now.

naw, that never happened.

Pumped

05-31-2015, 09:01 PM

lite if you quit why not go enjoy your sunday

I know I got some sun today you dig?

iruinedyourday

05-31-2015, 09:06 PM

lite if you quit why not go enjoy your sunday

I know I got some sun today you dig?

Uuruk

05-31-2015, 09:07 PM

lite if you quit why not go enjoy your sunday

I know I got some sun today you dig?

quido

05-31-2015, 09:09 PM

Why is it always on the staff to remedy the fact that Lite and company suck at leading guilds?

Uuruk

05-31-2015, 09:12 PM

Why is it always on the staff to remedy the fact that Lite and company suck at leading guilds?

Lev_Mer

05-31-2015, 09:12 PM

Stopped reading at manually triggered

i think this is a rant in server chat again someone call sickpuppy

Pumped

05-31-2015, 11:12 PM

amelinda warranted a wipe

don't mean its gona happen

sry

iiNGloriouS

05-31-2015, 11:19 PM

Why is it always on the staff to remedy the fact that Lite and company suck at leading guilds?

lite

06-01-2015, 10:09 AM

Why is it always on the staff to remedy the fact that Lite and company suck at leading guilds?

In a server where creating zergs is the best type of "leading" one can do, that's fine with me. (pras broken spawns)

Plenty of your guildies have spoke well about pvp against or with me in a non zerg environment, but let's derail this thread.

heartbrand

06-01-2015, 10:13 AM

EQ servers need 2000 people continuously to be peak fun. Ours is in the 200's most of the time.

Glenzig

06-01-2015, 10:22 AM

<Empire> needs 2000 people continuously to be able to down Velious mobs. Ours is in the 200's most of the time and we still wipe to CT.

:)

Tassador

06-01-2015, 10:23 AM

Guys shouldn't derail this thread it's going places. Also should be guild leaders only as all other opinions are null and void.

Stasis01

06-01-2015, 12:06 PM

Eslade

06-01-2015, 12:19 PM

To be fair Lite was only a guild leader by default - as no one wanted to play against Nizzar and he never really beat him ever.

I mean I could have created a guild and did nothing and I would have been the default "leader" of the resistance for probably 60% of Nizzar's time playing here.

instead you made threads about things like variance that the staff ignored and you quickly did a 180 as soon as you joined holocaust.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/Come-on-son.jpeg

B4EQWASCOOL

06-01-2015, 12:28 PM

EQ servers need 2000 people continuously to be peak fun. Ours is in the 200's most of the time.

Blue is close to this and there's spawn competition in popular zones, litigation quest... No thanks.

lite

06-01-2015, 12:45 PM

EQ servers need 2000 people continuously to be peak fun. Ours is in the 200's most of the time.

I honestly think that if there were more people, the zergs would just scale up accordingly.

With everything spawning at the same time every week there's just no better way to go about monopolizing the content. Recruiting everything that moves would still be the best route.

With the server going down every week and adding some level of randomness even in the old classic servers there weren't guilds remotely the size of the guilds we have in a server with 1/10 the pop.

HippoNipple

06-01-2015, 01:05 PM

I honestly think that if there were more people, the zergs would just scale up accordingly.

With everything spawning at the same time every week there's just no better way to go about monopolizing the content. Recruiting everything that moves would still be the best route.

With the server going down every week and adding some level of randomness even in the old classic servers there weren't guilds remotely the size of the guilds we have in a server with 1/10 the pop.

No reason to make changes now with Velious coming out. Might as well see how it plays out and request changes down the road.

lite

06-01-2015, 01:18 PM

No reason to make changes now with Velious coming out. Might as well see how it plays out and request changes down the road.

The faiuare to correctly implement this classic mechanic pretty much paralyzed PVP in Kunar, so let's continue unclassic spawns into Velious and see if it doesn't ruin this expansion too? That is literally what you are suggesting.

It's took forever to get Simulated repops to be a feature, and a year + down the line it's still not working correctly because of Rogean's idea that he must manually trigger them. Delay is the last thing we need.

HippoNipple

06-01-2015, 01:31 PM

The faiuare to correctly implement this classic mechanic pretty much paralyzed PVP in Kunar, so let's continue unclassic spawns into Velious and see if it doesn't ruin this expansion too? That is literally what you are suggesting.

It's took forever to get Simulated repops to be a feature, and a year + down the line it's still not working correctly because of Rogean's idea that he must manually trigger them. Delay is the last thing we need.

On live the server went down pretty much the same time every time. The day might have been random but it was always in off peak hours. You are asking for something more custom, but arguably more fun for everyone.

Velious should provide much more to do and shouldn't require competing guilds to have to snipe as quickly as they do in Kunark since progression isn't as linear.

I wouldn't say Kunark and classic are ruined. There are a lot of people still logging in and refusing to get a job because this content is so much fun.

Stasis01

06-01-2015, 01:43 PM

instead you made threads about things like variance that the staff ignored and you quickly did a 180 as soon as you joined holocaust.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/Come-on-son.jpeg

I just never talked about it while in Azrael, because I had a stake in Azrael.

I have never changed my opinion on variance, it just will never happen and with Velious around the corner, it isn't a big deal. Deal with it?

heartbrand

06-01-2015, 01:44 PM

On live the server went down pretty much the same time every time. The day might have been random but it was always in off peak hours. You are asking for something more custom, but arguably more fun for everyone.

Velious should provide much more to do and shouldn't require competing guilds to have to snipe as quickly as they do in Kunark since progression isn't as linear.

I wouldn't say Kunark and classic are ruined. There are a lot of people still logging in and refusing to get a job because this content is so much fun.

People didn't quit their jobs or school to kill the mobs within five minutes of servers coming up back in 2000.

Ragnaros

06-01-2015, 01:45 PM

People didn't quit their jobs or school to kill the mobs within five minutes of servers coming up back in 2000.

das not true

Pumped

06-01-2015, 01:46 PM

people weren't as fucked up in 1999 as they are now honestly

Efwan

06-01-2015, 02:56 PM

People didn't quit their jobs or school to kill the mobs within five minutes of servers coming up back in 2000.

Uh even more people did. You don't remember the term EverCrack and all the crazy ass news reports involving EQ??

heartbrand

06-01-2015, 03:07 PM

Uh even more people did. You don't remember the term EverCrack and all the crazy ass news reports involving EQ??

I can only speak for my server, but we scheduled raids @ night time and almost everything was still up. I do know some servers though had Japan/Asian guilds that would kill shit during daytime hours.

Tassador

06-01-2015, 03:29 PM

people weren't as fucked up in 1999 as they are now honestly

Not true i remember not logging into raids at ridiculous times and being penalized for it. Bottom line is your either lawn mower man of casual not much in between.

I can 100% confirm that shitty timers existed on live too and will always as long as there is enough plugged in willing to raid at that time.

Efwan

06-01-2015, 03:29 PM

I can only speak for my server, but we scheduled raids @ night time and almost everything was still up. I do know some servers though had Japan/Asian guilds that would kill shit during daytime hours.

Well we had us and TMO. They definitely poopsocked a shit ton.

Lev_Mer

06-01-2015, 03:44 PM

somewhere between the masochistic leisure of playing EQ and the insincere tears of the neckbeards lies the truth of all life

derpcake

06-01-2015, 03:51 PM

I'm not gonna be around for any spawns.

Any way to have them spawn like a custom command or something?

Great thread, hope we see instances soon.

fiegi 8.0

06-01-2015, 04:18 PM

people weren't as fucked up in 1999 as they are now honestly

100% true.... The sickness level of people now compared to when i played live in 99 ain't even comparable. There are sick fucks on this server who play 16 hours a day and spend another 3 on the forums, forget about having a job or real life or anything.

Kergan

06-01-2015, 04:27 PM

Doctor Jeff

06-01-2015, 05:08 PM

pages 2-6 tldr; Wait... Would a random and automatic sim repop once a week be a bad thing? i think that would add a lot of spontaneity to the game. While admittedly far far far from classic.

HippoNipple

06-01-2015, 05:09 PM

Doctor Jeff

06-01-2015, 05:10 PM

See pages 2-6

i guess you're right i probably should haha. fine!

Edit: did not find a reason that this would be bad, just people hating lite.

Tassador

06-01-2015, 05:21 PM

somewhere between the masochistic leisure of playing EQ and the insincere tears of the neckbeards lies the truth of all life

that's what she said.

Not_Kazowi

06-01-2015, 05:41 PM

Lite such a psycho

Farzo

06-01-2015, 07:07 PM

Cries about spawns does nothing about it

Farzo

06-01-2015, 07:09 PM

Maybe u need 2 accept the fact that ur bad @ mass PvP and goog @ skirmishes/single pvp Mr Mexican.

Pumped

06-01-2015, 08:09 PM

why u gota go brown wit it

grannock

06-01-2015, 08:56 PM

pages 2-6 tldr; Wait... Would a random and automatic sim repop once a week be a bad thing? i think that would add a lot of spontaneity to the game. While admittedly far far far from classic.

Because thats not fucking classic. Mobs pop tonight, cya there nerd. If we wanted to play an instanced game the grannock would still be in azeroth kneeling next to the iron king.