View Full Version : Remove AoN skelly illusion or add targeting ring plz
Beldan4
05-25-2015, 12:48 AM
ok, im just responding to some TS3 chat I heard once....people using loopholes to be a dick and gain pvp advantage is part of the fun in this game and it is classic but people trading AoN's around so whole raids are in skelly form is just bad taste. it looks bad, its weak. Don't suppose AoN's could just be made No drop until until targeting rings are put up.
im just looking for discussion here. I don't wana hear any "poor mans is QQing cuase he doesn't have an AoN" ur right, don't even have one on EQ live cuase I just don't care!
minakto
05-25-2015, 12:51 AM
Highly doubt target ring will go in.
Nilbog once said skellies wont have name plates.
Videri
05-25-2015, 12:53 AM
Would it work to spam a clicky on them? Maybe a flux staff, Bracer of the Hidden, alliance rod, or other targetable insta-clicky?
Kergan
05-25-2015, 12:55 AM
Crown of rile clicks will light them up like a christmas tree.
Omnifiend
05-25-2015, 12:57 AM
Shit's classic. Nerfing /ooc to not perform like it did in classic is much more important.
Silent
05-25-2015, 12:59 AM
won't hapen, servers classic, or is it? either way, even with assists and such as more aons drop its just going to get worse. wait til golems drop aons, and half a raid on each side has them. Right now some pvp encounters involve sharing an aon, so if someone zones they lose the buff, or if they get pelled they cant click it again. One guild with ~15 aon's on a bunch of rogues/wizards/monks etc can do some massive hurt. aon clicky is #1 for any class, monks have epic or robe clicky, but grim aura does not stack.
monk epic + aon + spyglass + jboots = 4 clickies to keep pell bombs(honestly, mostly pumices or 1 wand click at bay, because 3+ people pumicing at same time, or wanding or an enchanter recant/stripping while 1-2 pumice assists the monk will lose some buffs, all depends on how quick he is to get to click clackin back.
rogue = grim aura + spyglass + jboots at best, again jboots not always going to be an option cuz sow > jboots for pvp and if your smart u bury it. spyglass is also extremely annoying due to the zoom in effect, so if you don't get pelled, jousting a backstab or monk tstaff hit is harder unless you click it off.
tldr; blabla clickies help but not much, aon is king cuz no name shown. target rings would be ideal because you would be able to see a person levi'd and see their position in the sky better. but will never happen unless mid-late velious if enough QQ once 75%+ of server has aon from ez fear raid.
quido
05-25-2015, 01:00 AM
shit's classic
hatelore
05-25-2015, 02:07 AM
QQ moar, shit is classic.
pgerman
05-25-2015, 02:13 AM
I have an AON in game right now, and would be the first one to completely take the skelly illusion out, and just make it a junk buff clickie for the sake of more fun pvp.
iruinedyourday
05-25-2015, 02:20 AM
I would prefer they added stormtrooper models or something totally absurd.
i mean if we're asking for silly and or absurd changes to this game for zero reasons.
pgerman
05-25-2015, 02:24 AM
it just makes the game more boring is all, 50 skeletons fighting each other is bleh
compulsion
05-25-2015, 02:56 AM
The only thing classic about r99 is that now you have to sit before you camp.
This server was built on level 30 pets doing ~80 dps by exploiting sword of runes.
This server was built on exploiting invis pulling and avoiding actual PvE mechanics entirely.
This server is currently built on multiple free, shared accounts, and easy xp so you can maintain the best buffs in the game at all times.
And don't forget that melees hit 95% of the time instead of around 50%, and that the damage is unmitigated by AC so that anyone that can remember to hit disc before attack can collect YT at least once an hour. Does crippling blow still stun for 1.0 instead of .1 as well?
No nameplate on skeleton existed on live for less than half the time this server has spent plodding through Kunark. Unfortunately, on this server, quite a few people have made deep emotional ties to their gear and "shits classic" has become a battle cry for people who have given over their existence to EQ.
Lev_Mer
05-25-2015, 03:12 AM
ouch.. truth hurts
Smedy
05-25-2015, 03:24 AM
it just makes the game more boring is all, 50 skeletons fighting each other is bleh
yeah absolutely nothing classic about that
aon so god damn boring, i wouldn't take out the skelly illusion though, enchanters need to have a way to hide but for everyone to benefit from it is just craziness, make that shit no drop or nerf aon to a clicky dummy buff without illusion, still a priceless item
jeffd
05-25-2015, 03:29 AM
nodrop aons pls, otherwise you'll have 80 skeletons vs 80 skeletons every major pvp battle for the rest of the server's life
hatelore
05-25-2015, 03:38 AM
yeah absolutely nothing classic about that
aon so god damn boring, i wouldn't take out the skelly illusion though, enchanters need to have a way to hide but for everyone to benefit from it is just craziness, make that shit no drop or nerf aon to a clicky dummy buff without illusion, still a priceless item
You sir are a Moran. Don't take out illusion in one sentence, take out illusion and make it a junk buff in next sentence. Kids, stay away from drugs.
Colgate
05-25-2015, 03:43 AM
good luck, good guys
http://i.imgur.com/VnC9dbr.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Je4K1Pp.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/31VkJqL.jpg
LostCause
05-25-2015, 07:25 AM
must feel good being on eq at 4am on a monday mornin.
Recycled Children
05-25-2015, 10:00 AM
Bring back spell sets.
Rompar
05-25-2015, 10:24 AM
I agree make AoN no drop ;p
Syft-X
05-25-2015, 10:34 AM
AON as no drop would not only solve a huge RMT problem but also resolve the 1000 skelly problem
krazyGlue
05-25-2015, 10:35 AM
Just change the buff timer to 1 minute
MEGANS LAW
05-25-2015, 10:37 AM
Just change the buff timer to 1 minute
make all buffs 1 min since we're going custom. maybe add pok books too.
also allow boxing and instance dungeons.
thanks.
krazyGlue
05-25-2015, 10:41 AM
someone is sour ^
MEGANS LAW
05-25-2015, 11:08 AM
someone is sour ^
someone wants a custom box.
lethdar
05-25-2015, 11:14 AM
classic's vlassic
krazyGlue
05-25-2015, 11:14 AM
someone wants a custom box.
sorry to break it to you , but this entire server is a custom box..
fred schnarf
05-25-2015, 11:53 AM
AON needs to be must equip to cast
therefore caster only
also , target rings are CLIENT SIDE and can be hacked
so get to work
SamwiseRed
05-25-2015, 11:59 AM
I wouldn't mind droppable PoK books that could be worn in the waist slot. That way I could do a DX suck it emote when I am low HP during PvP and it would teleport me away.
Vexenu
05-25-2015, 01:10 PM
Entire guilds running around during mas PvP in skeleton illusion is unclassic as fuck, anyone saying otherwise never played on a Zek in the classic era.
AoN as currently used on Red is just another case of a classic item being abused which results in massively unclassic gameplay (see: Ivandyr's Hoop, Midnight Mallet, WC cap, Soulfire, Trak Teeth). In this case, the lesser evil is making a minor change to the item itself (making it no drop is probably the best option) rather than allowing a "classic" item to be abused in a manner that makes the gameplay experience wildly unclassic.
AoN should be made no drop and given a 2 second cast time.
Armies of skeletons running around is fucking stupid, period. It just turns mass PvP into an arms race, which requires guilds to abuse AoNs to compete. Much better to simply even the playing field by strictly limiting AoNs to at most a few people on each side. The PvP then becomes much more classic, and neither side has to abuse an unclassic mechanic in order to obtain an advantage.
Also.. not sure there is a person on the box that will sensibly agree that AoNs shouldn't be name plated. Though they are class how they are.. the abundance of them are completely non classic.
Hits the nail on the head.
A year ago the amount of people being protected by AoN's was too many, now it's just devastating. At this point the damage is irreparable without the item iteself being nerfed. Even without the item being passed around you have 20v20 skrimishes where close to half of the people present are one click away from being undetectable.
Many individuals out there who own AoN's that would like to add name plates in a heart beat to have more competitive PVP. The majority, many who RMT'd them are interested in having a game breaking edge over their opponents.
Edit - If people on Both teams came to the staff with a unanimous proposition, I am sure they'd heavily consider it.
(/poke mornin,barcode) Coalition of patriotic AoN owners.
"Epic trolls" have always prevailed in making the staff feel like there's too much conflict and just avoid game fixes altogether.
Sirban
05-25-2015, 01:39 PM
You sound upset
hatelore
05-25-2015, 01:55 PM
Hits the nail on the head.
A year ago the amount of people being protected by AoN's was too many, now it's just devastating. At this point the damage is irreparable without the item iteself being nerfed. Even without the item being passed around you have 20v20 skrimishes where close to half of the people present are one click away from being undetectable.
Many individuals out there who own AoN's that would like to add name plates in a heart beat to have more competitive PVP. The majority, many who RMT'd them are interested in having a game breaking edge over their opponents.
Edit - If people on Both teams came to the staff with a unanimous proposition, I am sure they'd heavily consider it.
(/poke mornin,barcode) Coalition of patriotic AoN owners.
"Epic trolls" have always prevailed in making the staff feel like there's too much conflict and just avoid game fixes altogether.
Didn't you quit? Then gtfo out of my room~
Will always advocate in the best interest of red 99.
Lite <azrael, forumquest>
Slathar
05-25-2015, 02:21 PM
yo Lite u want access to my epic 60 Empire toon? to train "accidentally" hehe?
Syft-X
05-25-2015, 02:49 PM
No Drop AON would fix so many issues, would kill most RMT, and keep people from fighting the skelly Horde
http://forum.kingdomcomerpg.com/uploads/default/2111/3ad1a109670d9dd1.jpg
iruinedyourday
05-25-2015, 03:46 PM
This is absurd. Use assist.
Kergan
05-25-2015, 04:26 PM
This is absurd. Use assist.
Assist is only helpful in getting them on target, not finding them in a sea of 80 identical looking characters.
AONs are retarded and should have been nerfed to at very least non drop status 2 years ago.
SamwiseRed
05-25-2015, 04:31 PM
This is absurd. Use assist.
U dum? Targeting isn't the problem
Syft-X
05-25-2015, 04:32 PM
Rogean already said he wont change nameplates so that's beating a dead horse, No drop however would fix most of the problems associated with AON.
Rogean already said he wont change nameplates so that's beating a dead horse, No drop however would fix most of the problems associated with AON.
Link
MEGANS LAW
05-25-2015, 04:35 PM
Link
was on velious release stream.
he also said he's not gonna change recharging on red.
shrug.
krazyGlue
05-25-2015, 04:39 PM
He could just change the buff duration to 1
Minute . It would stop everyone from sharing their Aon meanwhile keeping the non nameplates classic and the value of the item .
Kringe
05-25-2015, 04:39 PM
OR, you could just un-nerf Golem wands and AoNs wouldnt matter..
vinnidel
05-25-2015, 04:41 PM
OR, you could just un-nerf Golem wands and AoNs wouldnt matter..
this is a dumb thought
MEGANS LAW
05-25-2015, 04:41 PM
OR, you could just un-nerf Golem wands and AoNs wouldnt matter..
could do alot of things. He's said he's not and not changing recharging, aon nameplates or any of that. current state of events is what we get.
Slathar
05-25-2015, 04:42 PM
could do alot of things. He's said he's not and not changing recharging, aon nameplates or any of that. current state of events is what we get.
no recharging you say? hehe
MEGANS LAW
05-25-2015, 04:43 PM
no recharging you say? hehe
doesn't affect me, i got 6 lockets.
enjoy 80man skellinton raids.
OR, you could just un-nerf Golem wands and AoNs wouldnt matter..
Were instant golem wands classic?
Also, I am pretty sure the staff said trains in VP would not be discontinued.
I believe with the correct approach they'd at least be willing to listen. I am pretty sure the staff simply doesn't want to engage a bunch of psychopaths who just want to be epic trolls about their opinion.
A crew of people with equal representation from both clans ....ehhhh
Slathar
05-25-2015, 04:45 PM
doesn't affect me, i got 6 lockets.
enjoy 80man skellinton raids.
6? sorry to hear that.
Syft-X
05-25-2015, 04:45 PM
He could just change the buff duration to 1
Minute . It would stop everyone from sharing their Aon meanwhile keeping the non nameplates classic and the value of the item .
Making it no drop would be better because it would stop a huge amount of RMT that stems from this item, we all know the only way to buy an AON is with real life cash.
They've never been sold for plat.
MEGANS LAW
05-25-2015, 04:45 PM
Were instant golem wands classic?
yes. as was ivandyr's hoop and other clickies.
the entirety of pvp items is fucked on red99.
Items aren't instant, pvp items are worthless since you can't actually use them for PVP since u guys cried about trak teeth.
You can't recharge wands etc.
Slathar
05-25-2015, 04:46 PM
yes. as was ivandyr's hoop and other clickies.
the entirety of pvp items is fucked on red99.
Items aren't instant, pvp items are worthless since you can't actually use them for PVP since u guys cried about trak teeth.
You can't recharge wands etc.
recharging not allowed.
Syft-X
05-25-2015, 05:04 PM
yes. as was ivandyr's hoop and other clickies.
the entirety of pvp items is fucked on red99.
Items aren't instant, pvp items are worthless since you can't actually use them for PVP since u guys cried about trak teeth.
You can't recharge wands etc.
They were nerfed for a good reason and will stay that way, deal with it scum lord, there will be no recharging Lockets of Escape for you to bind 80 people different places they shouldn't be.
MEGANS LAW
05-25-2015, 05:50 PM
They were nerfed for a good reason and will stay that way, deal with it scum lord, there will be no recharging Lockets of Escape for you to bind 80 people different places they shouldn't be.
and there won't be any changes to aons.
snufzaimoverlord
05-25-2015, 06:11 PM
I have an AON in game right now, and would be the first one to completely take the skelly illusion out, and just make it a junk buff clickie for the sake of more fun pvp.
This made me chortle.
pgerman
05-25-2015, 06:16 PM
This made me chortle.
It's true , I have an AON and 100% support the nerf
Syft-X
05-25-2015, 07:06 PM
and there won't be any changes to aons.
Why so you can keep buying and selling them?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yh0LGlF0DxY
Best thing they could do here is remove the most RMT'd item from the market
BardPop
05-25-2015, 07:09 PM
Target hotkeys
fred schnarf
05-25-2015, 07:10 PM
you still cant SEE Which skeleton your following
Madbad
05-25-2015, 07:13 PM
I feel like no drop AoNs solve most of the issue while keeping it a really cool item.
Of course, Shit's classic.
Runya
05-25-2015, 07:21 PM
I use a custom skin where you all look like shiverbacks
snufzaimoverlord
05-25-2015, 07:22 PM
We went through this exact thread a year ago with all GMs responding.
The cycle continues.
Glugg
05-25-2015, 07:22 PM
Target hotkeys
lol
how much paint do yall huff over there actually?
Syft-X
05-25-2015, 07:26 PM
We went through this exact thread a year ago with all GMs responding.
The cycle continues.
No one suggested them being no drop tho, and there being multiple threads about prove it is indeed an issue.
I use a custom skin where you all look like shiverbacks
haha
snufzaimoverlord
05-25-2015, 07:42 PM
No one suggested them being no drop tho, and there being multiple threads about prove it is indeed an issue.
There has been 100 good suggestions by the playerbase concerning lns rules, items etc over the last few months. You see any changes? The server is the way it is.
There has been 100 good suggestions by the playerbase concerning lns rules, items etc over the last few months. You see any changes? The server is the way it is.
from having personally spoke to Sirken, the only way to get anything changed.. Or considered for that matter is by presenting something to them that has bipartisan support.
I once proposed to Sirken something along the lines of 1 week MAX for violation and only a guild leader/officer can present it and that I would speak to other leaders about it. He said if I got support from Holocaust leadership it would be the law of the land.
I approached Colgate about it but we never got to conclude the conversation. Think he was occupied.
Point is, the GM's and staff are receptive to feedback from us. Just not in the form of trying to decipher forum quest epic trolling.
we all know what would solve every issue
Glugg
05-25-2015, 08:00 PM
hot sex sundays in EC tunnel
krazyGlue
05-25-2015, 08:01 PM
It's true , I have an AON and 100% support the nerf
Syft-X
05-25-2015, 08:08 PM
There has been 100 good suggestions by the playerbase concerning lns rules, items etc over the last few months. You see any changes? The server is the way it is.
Are you new here? things often change slowly on this server but they do get changed if enough people agree to there being a problem.
Like Lite said if enough people agree there is an issue and find a solution a change occurs.
No one will agree to nameplates, no one will agree to removing AONS, that's why making them No Drop seems the best meet in the middle policy.
People keep their hard won(Or bought) AON's and staff has less of a headache over the most RMT'd item.
Colgate
05-25-2015, 08:09 PM
i do not agree on making amulets of necropotence no drop
cy@
MEGANS LAW
05-25-2015, 08:09 PM
voted no. non classic.
Syft-X
05-25-2015, 08:12 PM
You mean the largest seller of RMT'd AON's on this server(Gyno), and the guy wearing one of his RMT'd AON's(Colgate) don't agree to an AON change?
I'm shocked!
MEGANS LAW
05-25-2015, 08:19 PM
You mean the largest seller of RMT'd AON's on this server(Gyno), and the guy wearing one of his RMT'd AON's(Colgate) don't agree to an AON change?
I'm shocked!
u want instances too?
i do not agree on making amulets of necropotence no drop
cy@
I agree. I think this would 100% be a bad solution, and not something the staff would be looking to consider in the slightest. At the very least name plates is something that eventually became a "thing".
Syft-X
05-25-2015, 08:22 PM
I agree. I think this would 100% be a bad solution, and not something the staff would be looking to consider in the slightest. At the very least name plates is something that eventually became a "thing".
Rogean already gave a hard NO to that, but keep on trying, how's variance working out for ya?
MEGANS LAW
05-25-2015, 08:23 PM
I agree. I think this would 100% be a bad solution, and not something the staff would be looking to consider in the slightest. At the very least name plates is something that eventually became a "thing".
i'd prefer instanced dungeons. can we make that become a thing too?
Rogean already gave a hard NO to that, but keep on trying, how's variance working out for ya?
Pretty sure trains being discontinued in VP was a hard no until a proper bipartisan proposition came about.
SamwiseRed
05-25-2015, 08:29 PM
vote yes not only because it sucks but it makes eq pvp look terrible. not fun when everyone looks the same :(
Syft-X
05-25-2015, 08:30 PM
Pretty sure trains being discontinued in VP was a hard no until a proper bipartisan proposition came about.
Rogean doesn't change his stance on things when he gives a definite no, might have a shot at nameplates if Cazic Thule get's revamped till then you're chasing a dream.
A shot at No Drop possibly because it removes the RMT headache for the staff. But I've learned to accept Rogean's NO's and deal with them.
I personally would vote yes to Nameplate's on skelly illusion I just don't think he'll ever consider implementing it before CT revamp.
Kergan
05-25-2015, 09:01 PM
It is so dumb not to add nameplates to AON. It was just one of those fixes that fell after the semi arbitrary point the staff has chosen to freeze the server at.
Skeleton models getting nameplates was added 35 days after the timeline stops (1/8/2002 patch, Luclin release was 12/4/2001).
It is so dumb not to add nameplates to AON. It was just one of those fixes that fell after the semi arbitrary point the staff has chosen to freeze the server at.
Skeleton models getting nameplates was added 35 days after the timeline stops (1/8/2002 patch, Luclin release was 12/4/2001).
that's great info.
MEGANS LAW
05-25-2015, 09:03 PM
It is so dumb not to add nameplates to AON. It was just one of those fixes that fell after the semi arbitrary point the staff has chosen to freeze the server at.
Skeleton models getting nameplates was added 35 days after the timeline stops (1/8/2002 patch, Luclin release was 12/4/2001).
i got 35 problems but aon nameplates aint 1.
Syft-X
05-25-2015, 09:09 PM
It is so dumb not to add nameplates to AON. It was just one of those fixes that fell after the semi arbitrary point the staff has chosen to freeze the server at.
Skeleton models getting nameplates was added 35 days after the timeline stops (1/8/2002 patch, Luclin release was 12/4/2001).
I totally agree with ya, hope Rogean changes his mind on this one, I doubt it but one can hope.
Uuruk
05-25-2015, 09:29 PM
It is so dumb not to add nameplates to AON. It was just one of those fixes that fell after the semi arbitrary point the staff has chosen to freeze the server at.
Skeleton models getting nameplates was added 35 days after the timeline stops (1/8/2002 patch, Luclin release was 12/4/2001).
Doesn't sound classic. Later
ok, im just responding to some TS3 chat I heard once....people using loopholes to be a dick and gain pvp advantage is part of the fun in this game and it is classic but people trading AoN's around so whole raids are in skelly form is just bad taste. it looks bad, its weak. Don't suppose AoN's could just be made No drop until until targeting rings are put up.
im just looking for discussion here. I don't wana hear any "poor mans is QQing cuase he doesn't have an AoN" ur right, don't even have one on EQ live cuase I just don't care!
target ring lol.
yes.
answer is yes.
target ring
Bazia
05-25-2015, 10:05 PM
spell lists and target rings were so fucking good before nildog removed
Kergan
05-25-2015, 11:20 PM
Doesn't sound classic. Later
Other non classic things:
-Ivandyr's Hoops
-Golem Wands
-Trakanon Teeth
Common theme? Made PVP retarded.
Syft-X
05-25-2015, 11:27 PM
Other non classic things:
-Ivandyr's Hoops
-Golem Wands
-Trakanon Teeth
Common theme? Made PVP retarded.
Agree made PvP stupid, so do AONS with no nameplates
dis_mornin
05-25-2015, 11:56 PM
Syft calm the Fuck down. People don't care what you have to say.
Syft-X
05-26-2015, 12:15 AM
Syft calm the Fuck down. People don't care what you have to say.
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h266/syft13/image001_zps1mshxwe5.png (http://s66.photobucket.com/user/syft13/media/image001_zps1mshxwe5.png.html)
Bad player alert
snufzaimoverlord
05-26-2015, 12:22 AM
http://o.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/fss/d957d6db573139e55ca292d7ee9ece5
Syft-X
05-26-2015, 12:23 AM
http://o.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/fss/d957d6db573139e55ca292d7ee9ece5
Nearly BIS monk dies 1v1 to slot missing 57 wizard...
Yikes!
dis_mornin
05-26-2015, 12:27 AM
Nearly BIS monk dies 1v1 to slot missing 57 wizard...
Yikes!
Tell me more. Love when I set up camp so far under your skin you go into a posting frenzy trying convince the forums you're not terrible
Syft-X
05-26-2015, 12:31 AM
Tell me more. Love when I set up camp so far under your skin you go into a posting frenzy trying convince the forums you're not terrible
If you dying to me more than any other player on this server is what you think rustles me, than you need to rethink this how to troll thing.
Truth is your just trying to shit up the thread about AON nerf because you got handed one by an aimchat pal for chickenbones.
Truth is your just trying to shit up the thread about AON nerf because you got handed one by an aimchat pal for chickenbones.
Also.. not sure there is a person on the box that will sensibly agree that AoNs shouldn't be name plated. Though they are class how they are.. the abundance of them are completely non classic.
stop....
Main person shitting up threads is you, dude.
Syft-X
05-26-2015, 12:39 AM
stop....
Main person shitting up threads is you, dude.
Did I start trolling him or was I talking about AON's?
Your empire app in yet?
fiegi 8.0
05-26-2015, 12:45 AM
Lite triedt o pull some scummy stuff on me and i thought we were pals
https://31.media.tumblr.com/e3a5bc3a5ad8883a04f7bb5043bdf400/tumblr_inline_ngi63pbpnw1t66gac.gif
Lite triedt o pull some scummy stuff on me and i thought we were pals
http://img-10.onedio.com/img/2r0/53ecce0849107b6a0c5f19ac.gif
Trying to make the box better bro, I hope you will understand.
SHOWITME
05-26-2015, 12:50 AM
taylor is perfect
SamwiseRed
05-26-2015, 12:53 AM
I hate seeing girls cry. This thread made me sad.
Syft-X
05-26-2015, 12:53 AM
http://img-10.onedio.com/img/2r0/53ecce0849107b6a0c5f19ac.gif
Trying to make the box better bro, I hope you will understand.
So are you quitting or just trying to get attention?
So are you quitting or just trying to get attention?
quitting, if the things that make this game not enjoyable change, I will happily return.
There are a good deal of people whom want the same changes on both teams, only problem is forumquest epic trolling will never allow the message to reach the staff. Doing what I can to change that.
Wasn't trying to offend you, I've always told you as have many on our team that your FQing is not good for us.
hatelore
05-26-2015, 01:00 AM
Yikes.
Buhbuh
05-26-2015, 01:03 AM
Wasn't trying to offend you, I've always told you as have many on our team that your FQing is not good for us.
that we agree on
Syft-X
05-26-2015, 01:03 AM
quitting, if the things that make this game not enjoyable change, I will happily return.
There are a good deal of people whom want the same changes on both teams, only problem is forumquest epic trolling will never allow the message to reach the staff. Doing what I can to change that.
Wasn't trying to offend you, I've always told you as have many on our team that your FQing is not good for us.
And I think a guild leader posting a formal I'm quitting thread looks worse than any trolling anyone could do on these forums. And certainly didn't have the guild interests but his own ego in mind when he posted it.
Doors
05-26-2015, 01:13 AM
Great thread.
And I think a guild leader posting a formal I'm quitting thread looks worse than any trolling anyone could do on these forums. And certainly didn't have the guild interests but his own ego in mind when he posted it.
Understandable that you might feel that way, and you might not be wrong.
There are many PVP lovers out there who I believe genuinely enjoyed fighting me, and are sad to see me go. In addition to that, their views and interests are not so different from our own.
My primary intention was that my departure might trigger some dialogue that could lead to long term change. I've gotten some very good feedback from many Empire members and am happy to see that there are many who are willing to sacrifice their loot flow in order to better pvp.
fiegi 8.0
05-26-2015, 01:22 AM
I wanted to hate Lite after what he did to me but I just can't.
Grimjaw
05-26-2015, 01:31 AM
simply adding a nameplate so you can see which skeleton of the 100 your actually clicked on in pvp would be nice. non classic changes to counter non classic gameplay
Nirgon
05-26-2015, 11:24 AM
I wanted to hate Lite after what he did to me but I just can't.
stay away from the coach / snout, you idiot
Twainz
Aviato
Letsjoe
Kammbo
Gongshow
Colgate
Chiggen
Gaping
Grimmtoad
Chuckslaw
Datboom
Helenkeller
Hectorchrist
Samuel
Rabid
Gyno
Barcode
Chun
Lite
Deluxee
Beastagor
Willy
Roberto
Karatay
Adrian
Krakin
who else owns an AoN? I know I am missing several.
Stasis01
05-26-2015, 11:46 AM
I don't think you understand negotiation, you will quit if they don't change AON?
Where's the incentive for them.
Stasis01
05-26-2015, 11:46 AM
Nobody gives a fuck about you - you make the second side shittier by your shit aura.
Runya
05-26-2015, 11:58 AM
How's my empire app looking bros? Need an update
Stasis01
05-26-2015, 11:59 AM
I'd vouch ya that's for sure, huge balls, PVPer, wizard.
Check.
Stasis, so full of hate. Go spend some time with your family, man. Reaching rexx levels of Lite immersion.
Stasis01
05-26-2015, 12:01 PM
You're already causing drama in the other side when it's the best it's ever been in over a year.
Good thing they didn't depend on you for anything or that would have really fucked them.
Just stop playing dude stop trying to make the other side so shitty pal.
we get it, you think I am irrelevant, bad, mad.
Everyone agrees with you.
move on.
Stasis01
05-26-2015, 12:05 PM
Just don't try to do the typical attention hog shit of disbanding GG making Azrael again stealing ur group of players, then grief GG till they stop caring and join Empire making it a one box server again.
Personally I benefit from your routine now that I'm in the #1 guild, but just please don't.
LoliPops
05-26-2015, 12:05 PM
https://media4.giphy.com/media/NH8SsCAnDZOaA/200.gif
Personally I benefit from your routine now that I'm in the #1 guild, but just please don't.
grats on being able to put in a nilly and empire app?
being in the #1 guild achievement unlocked? surely a server first.
Your role here is to continue having epiphanies every few months, guild hop, and FQ on behalf of the other team, then do a 180 a few months later.
Rince repeat.
Glugg
05-26-2015, 12:09 PM
Just don't try to do the typical attention hog shit of disbanding GG making Azrael again stealing ur group of players, then grief GG till they stop caring and join Empire making it a one box server again.
Personally I benefit from your routine now that I'm in the #1 guild, but just please don't.
lol
lite is a psycho but you're a full on retard
Runya
05-26-2015, 12:10 PM
You're already causing drama in the other side when it's the best it's ever been in over a year.
Good thing they didn't depend on you for anything or that would have really fucked them.
Just stop playing dude stop trying to make the other side so shitty pal.
I had a lot of fun playing with lite.....good player and a nice guy.We put in alot time helping a lot of people especially in sky which no one enjoys.....I've been around the block and seen a few things.....I don't think him quitting was a good thing for the alliance.....but that's my 2 cents
Pumped
05-26-2015, 12:10 PM
quitting, if the things that make this game not enjoyable change, I will happily return.
There are a good deal of people whom want the same changes on both teams, only problem is forumquest epic trolling will never allow the message to reach the staff. Doing what I can to change that.
Wasn't trying to offend you, I've always told you as have many on our team that your FQing is not good for us.
people who quit disappear, they dont make quitting posts and keep shitting every single thread with their opinions
Runya
05-26-2015, 12:12 PM
P.s did that hurt my app?
MEGANS LAW
05-26-2015, 12:12 PM
as an owner of 8 AON's I vote no for any changes to AON's.
Good day.
Runya
05-26-2015, 12:15 PM
people who quit disappear, they dont make quitting posts and keep shitting every single thread with their opinions
I'd like to agree but can't......people who quit rarely disappear.....and shitting up threads is what these forums are about.Start on a topic 2 pages later it's somewhere else
Stasis01
05-26-2015, 12:15 PM
grats on being able to put in a nilly and empire app?
being in the #1 guild achievement unlocked? surely a server first.
Your role here is to continue having epiphanies every few months, guild hop, and FQ on behalf of the other team, then do a 180 a few months later.
Rince repeat.
I am FQing for your former guild Good Guys, if you do what I think you'll do it'll involve trying to poach their members, and making your same old shit guild again.
That will just push people to Empire.
I am FQing for the server and Good Guys - watching you lose for the 300th time is not exciting anymore.
Stasis01
05-26-2015, 12:16 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugTwbS24ZAQ
Pikrib
05-26-2015, 12:17 PM
I would guess Lite is busy leveling up his Empire spy alt so it wont get removed for not being lvl 60.
Not here to shit up threads. By removing myself from the server I am able to engage people from all factions in order to campaign for good changes for the box.
I've said it several times, and I will continue to say it. The staff's lack of willingness to make changes or to listen to them is primarily related with the fact that all they see is FQ trolling in every thread related to good changes.
If you can present to them a reasonable idea which is being signed off on by both sides, you might be surprise at what could happen.
I could be wrong, but I love this server enough to give it a shot. Receiving very good feedback from some people I would have not spoken to in the past.
Stasis01
05-26-2015, 12:18 PM
He can't even be in a guild because he isn't the spot light and sole leader.
You think he could level and raid as an anon Empire?
Stasis01
05-26-2015, 12:19 PM
Not here to shit up threads. By removing myself from the server I am able to engage people from all factions in order to campaign for good changes for the box.
I've said it several times, and I will continue to say it. The staff's lack of willingness to make changes or to listen to them is primarily related with the fact that all they see is FQ trolling in every thread related to good changes.
If you can present to them a reasonable idea which is being signed off on by both sides, you might be surprise at what could happen.
EXP Bonus
Trak Tooth nerf
T staff nerf
Golem wand Nerf
PVP on death nerf
Level range nerf
PNP
Removing Nizzar
All things that brought htis box from 50 pop to 350+ now. The staff have addressed most problems it just takes forever and eventually they'll do it for the AON.
Pikrib
05-26-2015, 12:22 PM
He can't even be in a guild because he isn't the spot light and sole leader.
You think he could level and raid as an anon Empire?
Oh i'm sure people like you will keep him in the spotlight on the forums for a long time to come.
Stasis01
05-26-2015, 12:24 PM
Oh i'm sure people like you will keep him in the spotlight on the forums for a long time to come.
Don't go Rexx on me.
All things that brought htis box from 50 pop to 350+ now. The staff have addressed most problems it just takes forever and eventually they'll do it for the AON.
Forever has been the standard in a context where the staff can not properly engage what is good b/c of epic trolling clogging up every thread.
I think you and both know that the final things in place for this to occur are the AoN change and non Rogean manually triggered sim pops.
I do not believe the idea of changing AoN to have name plates is even on the staff's radar, despite the fact that practically everyone that owns an AoN is on board with the change and agrees that it is awful for pvp.
I am pretty certain the staff has no idea that such agreement over that item exists, because all that is presented when a poll comes about is a bunch of epic trolling, even from those that own one.
If you can get a properly formatted petition to Nilbog, which correctly documents that the people on board with this are actual owners, and the reasons why they'd like to see the change. I think we might be surprised at Forever not needing to be the case.
Nirgon
05-26-2015, 12:25 PM
Yeah they're going to listen to you because you don't just vote for things that solely benefit you
Ella`Ella
05-26-2015, 12:27 PM
Ignore lists are for the emotionally and constitutionally weak minded.
Yeah they're going to listen to you because you don't just vote for things that solely benefit you
You realize most of your guildies have expressed that AoN as it stands is bad, and that automated repops are good, right?
epic trolling aside, we're all on board for the same things.
Guido
05-26-2015, 12:28 PM
pretty sure AoNs are working as intended
its called making a target macro/assist, end of story
not sure what all the fuss is about, and I don't even own one
Stasis01
05-26-2015, 12:28 PM
I don't think weekly coded sim repops will be a big deal in Velious - you won't be able to drop most of the important mobs anyway.
I would focus on building a good guild that can handle Velious - and yea an AON nameplate thread would have worked, but this is just backtracking from your rage quit to try to justify it.
AON nameplates is obvious.
Syft-X
05-26-2015, 12:35 PM
I agree with Nameplates, I still think it would be good to make them item No Drop tho. Otherwise you will still have the fight 1000 skelly syndrome in pvp.
WTF wants to watch pvp vid's of 300 skelly's fighting
Glugg
05-26-2015, 12:35 PM
I am FQing for your former guild Good Guys, if you do what I think you'll do it'll involve trying to poach their members, and making your same old shit guild again.
That will just push people to Empire.
I am FQing for the server and Good Guys - watching you lose for the 300th time is not exciting anymore.
shut
the fuck
up
if you are really concerned for the server and worried about a "one guild server" there is personal action you can take, the /guildremove command awaits
but you'll never do that because you're a smarmy dickhead too stupid and cowardly to realize not a single action in his life will ever accord with his self perception, loool
Glugg
05-26-2015, 12:37 PM
Yeah they're going to listen to you because you don't just vote for things that solely benefit you
el oh el my bro
el oh el
fiegi 8.0
05-26-2015, 12:37 PM
I own *1* AON, and I'd be for putting name plates on skeletons, it really "shits" up pvp, for lack of a better word. Not a fan of makin them no-drop however. I can only imagine how brutal it is for lesser skilled players to follow a skeleton target when theirs 20 running around.
Crazycloud
05-26-2015, 12:38 PM
loling hard here cause holo had to deal with Azraels AON bullshit with a retarded huge hitbox.
GOD WE SO GOOD
Glugg
05-26-2015, 12:40 PM
yes, it is obvious that holo, as ethically consistent and morally minded warriors, are absolutely above using AoNs in pvp, a dirty dirty tactic that the evil azrael used against them, but to which they would themselves never stoop
Glugg
05-26-2015, 12:41 PM
one must live by a code - colgate
I don't think weekly coded sim repops will be a big deal in Velious - you won't be able to drop most of the important mobs anyway.
I would focus on building a good guild that can handle Velious - and yea an AON nameplate thread would have worked, but this is just backtracking from your rage quit to try to justify it.
AON nameplates is obvious.
Not sure I'd wanna get caught up on an argument regarding whether or not it will be a "big deal".
Sim repops were put in place to correctly emulate random spawns and give opportunities to more people, I don't believe being able to present 80-100 people should be the standard raid force. I do not think the fact that entry guilds like Fresh not being able to exist is good for a server. Right now you literally have no choices. It's Empire or Good Guys, I think it's pretty sad when a server gives you such limited offers.
Communities have to be destroyed non stop in order to keep up with the zerg game. That's a fundamental problem, not a kunark or velious problem.
I don't think you'd disagree with me that the lack of properly instated spawn system pretty much ruined Kunark competition wise. I'd hate to have speculation on whether or not a classic mechanic is necessary have a similar effect on Velious. Worst case scenario more content and opportunities for everyone.
Syft-X
05-26-2015, 12:42 PM
I own *1* AON, and I'd be for putting name plates on skeletons, it really "shits" up pvp, for lack of a better word. Not a fan of makin them no-drop however. I can only imagine how brutal it is for lesser skilled players to follow a skeleton target when theirs 20 running around.
I'm maining a necro having everyone as a skeleton would only benefit me in pvp, But WTF wants to look at vids with 300 skelly's fighting it's stupid.
Sorry but posting cool video's of PvP large scale battles is a great way to promote the server, entice new players, and grow the population. Now if player's see video's of 300 skelly's fighting and can't even tell whats going on they are gonna think it's stupid and not wanna play here.
Pikrib
05-26-2015, 12:43 PM
Ignore lists are for the emotionally and constitutionally weak minded.
You weren't here for the spamming of gay porn were ya?
loling hard here cause holo had to deal with Azraels AON bullshit with a retarded huge hitbox.
GOD WE SO GOOD
I was for AoN nameplates way before Holocaust was even a thing on this box, and I was one of the few resistance players that owned one.
In the same way that I was campaigning for proper spawn systems when Azrael was farming the server freely.
This is all documented in threads I've started.
Sorry dude, I am not that guy. My agenda has always been whatever is good for the server, whether or not I stand to win or lose from it.
This is not good guys v azrael v empire by any stretch.
Guido
05-26-2015, 01:01 PM
I can understand it being confusing with no name, but that is the beauty of the item
target nearest pc button helps or /target macro
if you want someone targeted you make the macro.
georgie
05-26-2015, 01:07 PM
damn dream team getting ordered by bluebies that's a tuff 1
Doors
05-26-2015, 01:08 PM
Slosh exists and does fine doing their own thing. You're not obligated to join a zerg guild to find pvp or have fun playing the game.
Runya
05-26-2015, 01:20 PM
I can understand it being confusing with no name, but that is the beauty of the item
target nearest pc button helps or /target macro
if you want someone targeted you make the macro.
It's not so easy when there's 250 skeletons.....OK you targeted one skeleton...249 others run by....nameplates help but skeletonquest is pretty dumb overall.Gotta Pell targets who don't own aons
Rushmore
05-26-2015, 01:22 PM
directed at Stasis
shut
the fuck
up
if you are really concerned for the server and worried about a "one guild server" there is personal action you can take, the /guildremove command awaits
but you'll never do that because you're a smarmy dickhead too stupid and cowardly to realize not a single action in his life will ever accord with his self perception, loool
oh bby :)
Smedy
05-26-2015, 01:45 PM
Slosh exists and does fine doing their own thing. You're not obligated to join a zerg guild to find pvp or have fun playing the game.
meanwhile sir doors has found himself in whatever zerg is available at the very moment, swinging from one nut to the next, talk the talk u gotta walk the walk dawg
Syft-X
05-26-2015, 02:07 PM
It's not so easy when there's 250 skeletons.....OK you targeted one skeleton...249 others run by....nameplates help but skeletonquest is pretty dumb overall.Gotta Pell targets who don't own aons
Agree making them no drop is the only solution to this...
Solves's RMT
Solves's stupid Skeletonquest
Literally no downside.
krazyGlue
05-26-2015, 02:09 PM
Twainz
Aviato
Letsjoe
Kammbo
Gongshow
Colgate
Chiggen
Gaping
Grimmtoad
Chuckslaw
Datboom
Helenkeller
Hectorchrist
Samuel
Rabid
Gyno
Barcode
Chun
Lite
Deluxee
Beastagor
Willy
Roberto
Karatay
Adrian
Krakin
who else owns an AoN? I know I am missing several. krazy + brobby
grannock
05-26-2015, 02:24 PM
Not sure I'd wanna get caught up on an argument regarding whether or not it will be a "big deal".
Sim repops were put in place to correctly emulate random spawns and give opportunities to more people, I don't believe being able to present 80-100 people should be the standard raid force. I do not think the fact that entry guilds like Fresh not being able to exist is good for a server. Right now you literally have no choices. It's Empire or Good Guys, I think it's pretty sad when a server gives you such limited offers.
Communities have to be destroyed non stop in order to keep up with the zerg game. That's a fundamental problem, not a kunark or velious problem.
I don't think you'd disagree with me that the lack of properly instated spawn system pretty much ruined Kunark competition wise. I'd hate to have speculation on whether or not a classic mechanic is necessary have a similar effect on Velious. Worst case scenario more content and opportunities for everyone.
Fresh existed fine for months. You were the one that dissolved them. Then you quit after 1 large scale pvp battle. That is the difference between you and gong, when we lose a fight or make a bad move he tells us to hold our heads high and get them next time. Called leadership bro.
Wrench
05-26-2015, 03:16 PM
You weren't here for the spamming of gay porn were ya?
he was
know theres a setup for a joke in there too, but dont feel like biting atm
Pikrib
05-26-2015, 03:23 PM
he was
know theres a setup for a joke in there too, but dont feel like biting atm
Nah, actually I was just gonna ask Herb to spam his inbox with gay porn. :)
iruinedyourday
05-26-2015, 03:39 PM
man some serious butt hurt in this thread
Sweetbaby Jesus
05-26-2015, 03:43 PM
Several other "game breaking" things such as recharging items, certain install click items, etc. Have been modified in an unclassic way to prevent abuse of them in pvp...i guess I don't see how aon should be any different. My 2cp worth
Slathar
05-26-2015, 03:59 PM
Several other "game breaking" things such as recharging items, certain install click items, etc. Have been modified in an unclassic way to prevent abuse of them in pvp...i guess I don't see how aon should be any different. My 2cp worth
pras it
Clark
05-26-2015, 09:09 PM
Change Skeleton quest. Ain't nobody got time for 200 skeletons.
iiNGloriouS
05-26-2015, 09:23 PM
Whose this glugg retard? He's as iliterate as Hona.
dontbanpls
05-26-2015, 09:27 PM
can't wait till lite runs out of shit to complain about and starts asking for planar armor to be nerfed or some shit
Syft-X
05-26-2015, 09:59 PM
can't wait till lite runs out of shit to complain about and starts asking for planar armor to be nerfed or some shit
LOL i love the fact that you quit your own guild because of Lite and then Lite quits playing and still you can't get over it. It's like watching someone shoot themselves in the face everday.
iruinedyourday
05-26-2015, 10:12 PM
LOL i love the fact that you quit your own guild because of Lite and then Lite quits playing and still you can't get over it. It's like watching someone shoot themselves in the face everday.
thats what watching you post is like, only replace day, with minuet.
Syft-X
05-26-2015, 10:14 PM
thats what watching you post is like, only replace day, with minuet.
6748 Worship 1 62 0.02 0 0.04
YIKES!
Crazycloud
05-26-2015, 10:14 PM
thats what watching you post is like, only replace day, with minuet.
lol
Glugg
05-27-2015, 02:03 AM
Whose this glugg retard? He's as iliterate as Hona.
pew pew
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