<Fresh> disbanded due to massive division in the guild caused by the alliance.

[dontbanpls]

I have disbanded the guild tonight. The new alliance has wormed their way into the minds of several of my officers and have eroded the foundation of the guild. They refused to respect the initial terms of the alliance which was that <Fresh> was to remain an independent guild. I can not work with a guild that has goals to dismantle my guild, and I can't move forward without the core of my guild.

I strongly urge anyone who enjoyed their time in <Fresh> to stay out of the Alliance as it is directly responsible and being lead by people who are only motivated by power, greed, and a desire to usurp my authority over <Fresh> and take it away from the server.


I founded <Fresh> to keep guilds like Azrael and Empire out of power. Joining these people is turning on everything that I had hoped <Fresh> could provide to the server. It was supposed to be a safe haven for people who wanted to play in a normal environment. The dream you are chasing now is not mine, but that of someone who hates me.


I hope that you will make the right decision and refuse the alliance guild in solidarity with me.

[Colgate]

lite gutting a guild of new players so that he can exploit them for a month or two before flaking out and leaving them all hanging?

never seen dis1 b4

[dontbanpls]

lite gutting a guild of new players so that he can exploit them for a month or two before flaking out and leaving them all hanging?

never seen dis1 b4


I tried to tell em till I was blue in the face

[Magikarp]

hey retard. it was a safe haven for normal people. i was getting tells for new people to join us everyday

good job fucking it up

-pons

[Colgate]

sounds like they planned on disbanding it anyway to join azrael

not sure why you are mad?

[Widan]

Cool, hopefully they can just reform without a psychopath guild leader.

[Smedy]

my necromancer is at your service mad max, it's time for another de-level session

[Farzo]

y i k e s

this explains why you been a bit feisty on the forums of late

[Syft-X]

I have disbanded the guild tonight. The new alliance has wormed their way into the minds of several of my officers and have eroded the foundation of the guild. They refused to respect the initial terms of the alliance which was that <Fresh> was to remain an independent guild. I can not work with a guild that has goals to dismantle my guild, and I can't move forward without the core of my guild.

I strongly urge anyone who enjoyed their time in <Fresh> to stay out of the Alliance as it is directly responsible and being lead by people who are only motivated by power, greed, and a desire to usurp my authority over <Fresh> and take it away from the server.


I founded <Fresh> to keep guilds like Azrael and Empire out of power. Joining these people is turning on everything that I had hoped <Fresh> could provide to the server. It was supposed to be a safe haven for people who wanted to play in a normal environment. The dream you are chasing now is not mine, but that of someone who hates me.


I hope that you will make the right decision and refuse the alliance guild in solidarity with me.

I'm currently guilded with ex enemies of Nihilum I spent fighting for years, people I did bad shit to and who did bad shit to me.

If you couldn't put old grudges aside for the good of the server than you don't have the emotional maturity to run a guild.

[Tassador]

For the good of the server!!!!!! Empire getting all the loot and we have to do what's good for the server

[Syft-X]

For the good of the server!!!!!! Empire getting all the loot and we have to do what's good for the server

Better to fight for a two force server then lay down and bend over for a one guild server.

[quido]

Glad the good people of Fresh could get out from under the retarded leadership of Max.

[Masq]

I have disbanded the guild tonight. I can not work with a guild that has goals to dismantle MY guild, and I can't move forward without the core of MY guild.

I strongly urge anyone who enjoyed their time in <Fresh> to stay out of the Alliance as it is directly responsible and being lead by people who are ONLY MOTIVATED BY POWER, greed, and a desire to usurp my authority over <Fresh>.

I had to quote this for the irony.


I founded <Fresh> to keep guilds like Azrael and Empire out of power. It was supposed to be a safe haven for people who wanted to play in a normal environment.

Fresh didn't really keep anyone out of power, and it was a place for people who wanted to play in a normal environment. Disbanding it because you're angry just further shows your selfishness and power mongering.

[Labanen]

/mourn

It was a good run and kept the server appealing for newcomers. Good Job Max, Fresh was probably one of the best thing to happen for the server in years.

I hope the Alliance will give Empire a good fight, but i think it is the wrong time, several months til Velious and during summer the server pop always drops. Any guild starting now is giving themselves a hard time to stay positive when people stops logging in over the next two months.

[Smedy]

I had to quote this for the irony.


http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130108205107/southpark2/de/images/1/1a/Eric_Cartman.jpg

[Varren]

Seems rather silly. Fresh was great but not because of your authority.

[Agatha]

have heard alot of things, but heard from reliable source that max was telling people to join empire?


is this true or bullshit? the source is fairly reliable but i know how some people will say anything.

[Varren]

He said it in another thread. Would just be flabbergasting if serious.

[heartbrand]

Red dawn ended up getting more raid targets than fresh. Just putting that out there heheheheh. Also just a guild of cool and normal people ya all.

[Uuruk]

I thought you guys were just an empire leveling guild anyway.

[Darthmuhh]

Eh, you guys fucked it up because once again for lack of patience. <Fresh> (hate that name) was adding numbers and starting to become some thing, and from all the peeps I ever spoke to was a friendly guild, but the "I want it now" attitudes leads to your downfall. RIP

[Tassador]

Better to fight for a two force server then lay down and bend over for a one guild server.

I am leveling a troll shaman any tips? prob will quit him at 30 and reroll ogre shaman for that frontal immune.

[Syft-X]

I am leveling a troll shaman any tips? prob will quit him at 30 and reroll ogre shaman for that frontal immune.

Just group shamans suck at solo lvling lower lvl.

[Luniz]

than you don't have the emotional maturity

this is a doozie

[Crazycloud]

Aim chat veteran prophets warned you.

Might as well quit EQ @ this point Max

[Rekrul]

Wow the psycho max does psycho things. Stupid kid disbands the guild bc the guild wants to fight empire, the very guild he has been shit talking about for months, now he wants everyone to join empire lololol

[Efwan]

Max, step away from the screen for a while and take a deep breath. Maybe uninstall EQ, let Gardur & Co. take it from here. Every fresh member/officer I have talked to is very excited for the newfound alliance, embrace the change because let's be honest, you just gave all the new kids a house to stay, now they want dragons to slay.

[Nirgon]

Max and Lite gotta go, they had their chance and we saw the hand they've played... time and time again

I'm find myself putting my chips on Strydur these days, especially if a few other capable lieutenants join his side

I do want competition, as the uncontested kills are starting to give way to waning interest in playing for many of my AIM pals

There are more than enough players online to fight Empire at all hours of the day, what you need is someone who is willing to roll up their sleeves and take these people out of Crushbone and get them organized and caught up with planar clears, epics and resist gear. It's not rocket science and Strydur when he plays seems to have the dedication and play time... along with a crew that could return and bring back a lot of the old Nilly power without the ultra corrupt.

[Omnifiend]

Hope to see leadership arise that supports freindly competition and doesn't rush to the forums whining about nazi pill poppers taking all the pixels. Would be amazing to have a guild with people who play a lot but at the same time realize this is just a game. Someone who doesn't throw temper tantrums and disband guilds just because someone wanted to raid and contest with other guilds.

[Madbad]

Seems rather silly. Fresh was great but not because of your authority.

[Tradesonred]

Its sad that this server cant keep a guild like Red Dawn or Fresh up for a long time, because clearly thats a type of laid back environement people enjoy and the server loses some of those cool normal people when this kind of meltdown happens. Wish Red dawn would have really allied with Nihilum a year or 2 ago to completely annihilate Lite like i suggested, so something else could emerge out of the rubble.

[bloodletter]

what you need is someone who is willing to roll up their sleeves and take these people out of Crushbone and get them organized and caught up with planar clears, epics and resist gear.

That, I agree with....

[derpcake]

op mad at alliance, mad at empire

Mad mad max

Too bad Fresh gone tho.

[Knuckle]

I have disbanded the guild tonight. The new alliance has wormed their way into the minds of several of my officers and have eroded the foundation of the guild. They refused to respect the initial terms of the alliance which was that <Fresh> was to remain an independent guild. I can not work with a guild that has goals to dismantle my guild, and I can't move forward without the core of my guild.

I strongly urge anyone who enjoyed their time in <Fresh> to stay out of the Alliance as it is directly responsible and being lead by people who are only motivated by power, greed, and a desire to usurp my authority over <Fresh> and take it away from the server.


I founded <Fresh> to keep guilds like Azrael and Empire out of power. Joining these people is turning on everything that I had hoped <Fresh> could provide to the server. It was supposed to be a safe haven for people who wanted to play in a normal environment. The dream you are chasing now is not mine, but that of someone who hates me.


I hope that you will make the right decision and refuse the alliance guild in solidarity with me.

Yeah continue to get shit on because one dude is mad that he got taken off the shot-caller list, and clearly that was a good move by the alliance folk. However people like this will continue to destroy your chances to compete, I recommend griefing him off the server before he poisons your chance of uniting under one banner.

[Nirgon]

That, I agree with....

And its not spin, its truth and very much my story returning

When Azrael was fucking my pals in fear, that's the first thing I said we had to do and something I went straight to work doing

I've rolled back my Crushbone/Unrest PLing initiatives and coaching in hopes someone else would and formed up a new underdog

If you looked at the way things were playing out, there is basically no way Holo should have been able to take its advisor robe and bronze pals to the top to even get 50% of the mobs

Granted we had out of the box amazing leadership that didn't have to learn too much about the game, but the #'s they were running and the gear disparity was very much there

I'd challenge the people forming the resistance to look at helping others up and gearing them as actually helping themselves. That is to say more like beefing up the units you command in an RTS rather than just demanding people do better or join you to help you get pixels without helping them get to that point first and continuing to help them after. Just know up front that it takes a ton of dedication and 45% of the people you help won't be able to keep up with the pace and quit, but the ones that stick around will be extremely loyal to you if you are to them... and its very worth it for all parties involved. I personally have little to show for my efforts plat-wise and alt-wise if you look in my characters banks considering the play time I've put in, but you will also find I am very rich in friends. The guy standing next to me decked out with an epic is much more valuable than that same gear on an alt and absolutely worth doing twice if one of them were to throw up their hands and quit. Remember that when the pixel greed gets to your brain, or end up like Lite with 10 alts to suck on but no one to drive them... unless you think you can get away with boxing contested raid mobs forever.

[Dacuk]

I founded <Fresh> to keep guilds like Azrael and Empire out of power. Joining these people is turning on everything that I had hoped <Fresh> could provide to the server.

i think your guildmates agree with you and your mission, the problem was you weren't keeping anyone out of power. The alliance was a way for this to be possible, so that is why they are interested - it is aligned with you mission of keeping empire out of power, while also totally changing azrael for the better.

also if you don't think anyone should join either because it is turning on everything, why are you joining empire and advocating for it?

[Doctor Jeff]

you want your trak bp back?

[pingpong]

When Azrael was fucking my pals in fear, that's the first thing I said we had to do and something I went straight to work doing



lol you are such a spin doctor -you mean the time when aimchat refused to call lns from your fear loss as a political move so that the ensuing pvp over the CR can be spun exactly as you have been doing ever since.

[HippoNipple]

Yeah continue to get shit on because one dude is mad that he got taken off the shot-caller list, and clearly that was a good move by the alliance folk. However people like this will continue to destroy your chances to compete, I recommend griefing him off the server before he poisons your chance of uniting under one banner.

You can hate on Max all you want but the "alliance" thing has been done before. If Lite is involved in an Alliance then who do you think gets the loot? Azrael will determine this. Then why would people with high play time stay in guilds like Fresh? They leave to Azrael. Then Azrael gears the same 10 dudes with their 10 alts, RMT to people like Sektors, etc. until it all falls apart. It has happened several times already.

I get why Max is upset with the alliance but it looks like he lost his cool and lost support from the officers in Fresh. Probably no going back now for that guild.

[Tradesonred]

You can hate on Max all you want but the "alliance" thing has been done before. If Lite is involved in an Alliance then who do you think gets the loot? Azrael will determine this. Then why would people with high play time stay in guilds like Fresh? They leave to Azrael. Then Azrael gears the same 10 dudes with their 10 alts, RMT to people like Sektors, etc. until it all falls apart. It has happened several times already.

I get why Max is upset with the alliance but it looks like he lost his cool and lost support from the officers in Fresh. Probably no going back now for that guild.

The beauty of an alliance is that its not a merge, its working together for a temporary goal that might extend into permanence if things work out well in the long run. An alliance isnt a dictatorship run by El Presidente.

Its funny that Lite thinks alliance means him calling the shots, and that when red dawn agreed to a simple do not raid with Azrael agreement with Nihilum, so trash geared, cool normal people like Thresh could get their epics (A no-brainer everybody pretty much in the guild agreed with after Heartbrand submitted it for approval), Lite interpreted that as "An alliance to destroy Azrael".

[Pumped]

duno why gardur wasnt leader of fresh anyways!

[daasgoot]

who is tradesonred?

appears to be some kind of potato that doesn't player here, yet thinks people care what he has to say.

[Tradesonred]

I hide behind anonymity new fish, its a tactical advantage.

[Rushmore]

The new alliance has wormed their way into the minds of several of my officers and have eroded the foundation of the guild.

sounds like some <Good Guys>

We want you! You don't want us!

[Ezalor]

any of fresh's successes happened in spite of max's leadership, not because of it

notice that not a single person itt cared max is no longer their gl

[letsjoe]

fresh was fun to pvp against from time to time, was a good run

[Tameth]

voted no

[Chodan]

Was in Fresh before it disbanded.

I used to say that I was in this great guild with higher levels wanting to help everyone. And our gm was awesome because he orgnized leveling events in spite of how people hated on him. He was great because he inspired our guild and kept everyone together as a family.

Actually, no - didn't say these things ever. Never saw the guy other than when he would incite people to target our exp groups via reddit and other forum posts. The only helpful leadership were the officers.

On the other hand, haven't had a bad experience with empire even though they're supposed to be our mortal enemies. In fact, when they see our groups struggling, they would actually power level us.

So where is the black and white?

[karsten]

wat

[Slathar]

Was in Fresh before it disbanded.

I used to say that I was in this great guild with higher levels wanting to help everyone. And our gm was awesome because he orgnized leveling events in spite of how people hated on him. He was great because he inspired our guild and kept everyone together as a family.

Actually, no - didn't say these things ever. Never saw the guy other than when he would incite people to target our exp groups via reddit and other forum posts. The only helpful leadership were the officers.

On the other hand, haven't had a bad experience with empire even though they're supposed to be our mortal enemies. In fact, when they see our groups struggling, they would actually power level us.

So where is the black and white?


start swingin

[Wrench]

So where is the black and white?

your in the wrong place if your looking for clear cut good and bad here, stupid

this is a bunch of nerds playing pvp on a 15 year old elf sim, ever last bit of it is manufactured drama

either understand that and enjoy it, or move on

[Swish]

any of fresh's successes happened in spite of max's leadership, not because of it

notice that not a single person itt cared max is no longer their gl

Rarely agree with Ezalor but he 100% correct on this.

My only real memories of Max are him getting killed in pvp a lot on his warrior, and deleveling to get away from it and/or boost himself on the leaderboard to try and even it out.

[MEGANS LAW]

Was in Fresh before it disbanded.

I used to say that I was in this great guild with higher levels wanting to help everyone. And our gm was awesome because he orgnized leveling events in spite of how people hated on him. He was great because he inspired our guild and kept everyone together as a family.

Actually, no - didn't say these things ever. Never saw the guy other than when he would incite people to target our exp groups via reddit and other forum posts. The only helpful leadership were the officers.

On the other hand, haven't had a bad experience with empire even though they're supposed to be our mortal enemies. In fact, when they see our groups struggling, they would actually power level us.

So where is the black and white?

i like u.

gardur is probably good leader 4 new fresh.

noahs a scumsucking erudite lover but he's still a goog person

[karsten]

surely nothing bad can come of trying to do what forumquest tells one is the right thing to do

[VZ_Xanit K'ven]

[QUOTE=MEGANS LAW;1899778]

gardur is probably good leader 4 new fresh.



Let Empire tell the opposing teams whats good for them, sounds legit

There is no more <Fresh>, no <New Fresh> and soon hopefully no <ReFresh>

United we stand, liberty or death

[Littlegyno 13.0]

[QUOTE=MEGANS LAW;1899778]

gardur is probably good leader 4 new fresh.



Let Empire tell the opposing teams whats good for them, sounds legit

There is no more <Fresh>, no <New Fresh> and soon hopefully no <ReFresh>

United we stand, liberty or death

who da fuk are u kid?

gardur probably best leader for fresh peeps. dunno giev a fuk wut kind of deal u make with el snouto, it won't work. he's a double crossing piglord from south of da border.

gardur will have 2 be careful 2 protect his younglings from him.

[Glenzig]

Was in Fresh before it disbanded.

I used to say that I was in this great guild with higher levels wanting to help everyone. And our gm was awesome because he orgnized leveling events in spite of how people hated on him. He was great because he inspired our guild and kept everyone together as a family.

Actually, no - didn't say these things ever. Never saw the guy other than when he would incite people to target our exp groups via reddit and other forum posts. The only helpful leadership were the officers.

On the other hand, haven't had a bad experience with empire even though they're supposed to be our mortal enemies. In fact, when they see our groups struggling, they would actually power level us.

So where is the black and white?

Ok. I know I haven't been in game in like 2 months due to rl stuff, but as of that point in time this isn't true. Max and the officers of Fresh have done a lot for the general population red, not to mention the guild itself. There was at least one event outside of Qeynos, I think there may have been a follow up to that one also, not sure. The gear recycling plant was an awesome idea that has helped a lot of people. I think I can only remember a handful of nights that Max wasn't on and helping the guild in some way. I'm not saying that was all 100% him. I'm sure it was a leadership decision, but I know he didn't oppose helping new members of the guild or the server.
Yeah he lost it a few times on raids. But at least when I was there up to a couple months ago he was very present and never demanded any gear for himself. I hope that Refresh carries on the tradition of need before greed /ran 100 loot distribution.

[pink grapefruit]

I had been told about some drama the Max guy caused that involved RL phone numbers and craigslist I think? Made me wary of joining Fresh.

Think now I will join the new guild.

[Colgate]

Ok. I know I haven't been in game in like 2 months due to rl stuff, but as of that point in time this isn't true. Max and the officers of Fresh have done a lot for the general population red, not to mention the guild itself. There was at least one event outside of Qeynos, I think there may have been a follow up to that one also, not sure. The gear recycling plant was an awesome idea that has helped a lot of people. I think I can only remember a handful of nights that Max wasn't on and helping the guild in some way. I'm not saying that was all 100% him. I'm sure it was a leadership decision, but I know he didn't oppose helping new members of the guild or the server.
Yeah he lost it a few times on raids. But at least when I was there up to a couple months ago he was very present and never demanded any gear for himself. I hope that Refresh carries on the tradition of need before greed /ran 100 loot distribution.

Refresh will be disbanded later today and all members forced to take an Azrael tag

[Glenzig]

Refresh will be disbanded later today and all members forced to take an Azrael tag

I guess that's possible. But doubtful.

[Colgate]

well that's what Gardur insinuated both in-game and on the forums

that Fresh, Curse, Friends, and Azrael would be merging

...which is why Tunak disbanded Fresh last night; he didn't want to do it and some of his officers said they would be leaving

[Gardur]

Nah u got it wrong Colgate. I said there were some Fresh that were planning on going and that Tunak disbanding the guild would mostly drive everyone to the new alliance guild. There were a lot of people on the fence/not going before I think are going to go now.

[Colgate]

so am i right or wrong in that Refresh is going to be included in this merger?

your comment that you and Lite would be equals going forward kind of suggests that

[Slathar]

I HAVE BEEN LOBOTOMIZED WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN AT WAR WITH OCEANIA

I LOVE BIG BROTHER

[Gardur]

I was hoping there would still be a <Fresh> after the alliance formed. Not sure if <ReFresh> going to survive that either.

I go where the troops go.

I guess I'll find out where that is tonight.

[Tradesonred]

Just be ready to accept em back after they realize how Lite operates

[Glenzig]

so am i right or wrong in that Refresh is going to be included in this merger?

your comment that you and Lite would be equals going forward kind of suggests that

Why is it that you have to know any of this. You planning on joining Refresh?

[Chronoburn]

<Flowers of Happiness> recruiting

[snufzaimoverlord]

I was hoping there would still be a <Fresh> after the alliance formed. Not sure if <ReFresh> going to survive that either.

I go where the troops go.

I guess I'll find out where that is tonight.

You sound like a strong leader I'm sure lite will be fair.

[Gardur]

You sound like a strong leader I'm sure lite will be fair.

Heh I can taste the sarcasm.

[Littlegyno 13.0]

Heh I can taste the sarcasm.

http://www.seriouseats.com/images/20101221snoutpig.jpg

[Tradesonred]

He'll be lenient

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/1c/1c1515b331f32c581358917aeeb0e71e993dc5198c5b84da07 c43dcea81c5b15.jpg

[bloodletter]

You guys need to realize empire is just in this thread tryin to troll people out of a one-tag alliance... They know communication is one of their big advantages right now

[pink grapefruit]

Two guild server sounds not great tbh. Really hope Fresh sticks around as their own thing.

[Agatha]

this thread is full of misinformation, all of the existing non empire members are merging into a guild with a new guild name.

[Littlegyno 13.0]

this thread is full of misinformation, all of the existing non empire members are merging into a guild with a new guild name.

god cant wait. u thnk u can sneak me in agatha?

[Rednaros]

this thread is full of misinformation, all of the existing non empire members are merging into a guild with a new guild name.

[Agatha]

god cant wait. u thnk u can sneak me in agatha?

yes, hope so.

[Gardur]

Me and my pals are going to stick together. If the Alliance guild doesn't work out then there will another guild with the Fresh core and the Fresh culture.

Unfortunately Max set the stage and Empire played the part he wrote for them. Now everyone in Fresh is anti-empire and this Alliance is popular.

I will do whatever I can to keep my people from getting taken advantage of and I absolutely will not tolerate Fresh being treated like 2nd rate citizens in the Alliance.

I always defended Max for doing a good job and having his heart in the right place. Everyone told me I was an idiot for that. Now I'm going to see if Lite and co. will keep their word and I'm sure people will call me an idiot for that, too.

Whatever happens we're all eyes wide open.

RIP <Fresh>

[Tradesonred]

You guys need to realize empire is just in this thread tryin to troll people out of a one-tag alliance... They know communication is one of their big advantages right now

You mean like using the same voice chat server while doing alliance stuff? Not being a baby and being able to say "PVP happened" when its time to do Alliance business?

My guild in Darkfall, we had to review before each battle, which particular guild was KOS (youd pay merc guilds to fight for you that youd fight the next time because other side offered more money). So if youre not able to contain your burgers when you see someone alongside you that an hour ago was ganking your ass then its all to your guild's detriment.

No one in his right mind knowing the facts would put themselves at the mercy of Lite's loot council. Alliance is one thing, merging another.

If Lite is offering merger or no alliance, you can already tell this is going down the toilet

[Nirgon]

Literally only went after Fresh due to Max boasting about vanquishing Holo and his intentions to destroy us in the end.

Gardur spitting in our face when offered an extremely generous second chance didn't help either, trust me.

Ain't no spin, go look at the Reddit post and the offer at the 90v134 at KC.

If you want Lite to take over your guild (merge) and fuck you over... be my guest.

I'd pick some of the ex-Nilly guys/Gardur to run it and toss his ass out if you know what's good for you.

Unless you truly believe that I think giving Lite control would some how doom us. Dude's got no clue about Velious, period.

[Gardur]

Gardur spitting in our face when offered an extremely generous second chance didn't help either, trust me.

I didn't spit in anyone's face. Gong and I have always chatted cordially. The troops gave it the thumbs down and that was it.

[heartbrand]

this got no chance

[bloodletter]

You mean like using the same voice chat server while doing alliance stuff? Not being a baby and being able to say "PVP happened" when its time to do Alliance business?

My guild in Darkfall, we had to review before each battle, which particular guild was KOS (youd pay merc guilds to fight for you that youd fight the next time because other side offered more money). So if youre not able to contain your burgers when you see someone alongside you that an hour ago was ganking your ass then its all to your guild's detriment.

No one in his right mind knowing the facts would put themselves at the mercy of Lite's loot council. Alliance is one thing, merging another.

If Lite is offering merger or no alliance, you can already tell this is going down the toilet

I think you're just proving my point?

[Nirgon]

I didn't spit in anyone's face. Gong and I have always chatted cordially. The troops gave it the thumbs down and that was it.

yeah you ignored him

I didn't mean literally because you can't transmit saliva through the internet

yet

[Gardur]

I didn't ignore him either. I'm sure he ss'd the convo. ask for them.

I might have them around somewhere but I think it rather uncool to post conversations. In fact I didn't even mention the offer until someone else brought it up in forums.

[fiegi 8.0]

Does this mean ur gonna delvl ur warrior again to grief mistmoore?

[Nirgon]

Kingandis might have some competition

[LoliPops]

Amazing what 3 stolen fungi tunics do to a man.

[dontbanpls]

You're spitting in my face now trying to force the exact opposite to happen as a result of my efforts to prevent it from happening. You barely argued that anyone should have stayed in the guild. You are just as much at fault for the guild being disbanded as the other leaders of the the alliance guilds who tried to force a merge down my throat.

This was brought up in team speak and unanimously shot down by our officers. Instead of continuing to shut it down, every time I logged into TS after a short afk break you are back in TS discussing it, telling people it is futile to fight against it that people are just going to leave etc etc. Now you can't even respect that I was serious enough about not supporting this merge to disband the guild and you are doing everything you can to enable this merge.

You and Tala trying to lead this new guild when you guys sabotaged the old and convinced so many people that <Fresh> wasn't worth fighting for is sickening.

[Tradesonred]

I think you're just proving my point?

What im saying is whats the big deal over merging? Why cant guilds stay independent with a ponctual alliance to go after empire when its time to do that?

I just hate people getting their interest in the game take a nose dive when they feel theyre working to gear up the inner core with crumbs thrown their way if theyre lucky.

Fresh sounded like a guild like Red Dawn, people may talk shit about Heartbrand but beside his politics (which I dont really give a fuck in-game, even find it fun to play with people way different than me through MMOs), i thought he was one of the best as far as loot distribution trickling down to the masses went. Even Nizzar with his RMT cut did more for people that werent officers then i ever saw in Azrael. In RD i felt emphasis was on fun, experiencing content for people new to end game, gearing out your toon, meeting cool normal people (lol).

When there was no PVP bonus and it was a huge grind to get to 60, Lite had us sit in Seb for 5 hours waiting to get crushed by Nihilum when the best thing to do was to use the weekend's xp bonus to get people to 60. When i argued against staying in Seb to get crushed, Lite told me "Thats the way it is because thats what the higher ups decided". He didnt have to justify himself to me over his selfish decisions that was detrimental to the guild (His toon was already 60) because i was just a peasant lower down. Ive met many people in RD later on i had never met before and they had the same types of stories to tell about Lite, so its not because it was me.

Now its been a while and people could argue against what i just said, that Azrael doesnt function like this anymore, but i highly doubt that.

If i was in Fresh, the burden of proof to explain how its not going to be like that would be resting on Lite's shoulders.

[Guido]

im just thankful gardur is a lot smarter than mr max here

otherwise, server would be as stale as it has been with max in control

also glad max's madness has come out once again - showing his true colors.

+1 for gardur.

time to get to work.

[Gardur]

You don't have any idea what you're talking about.

And you're refusing to take accountability for your own actions.

I didn't start a guild war with the top dog. I didn't relentlessly antagonize them on FQ. All I ever did was defend you for what you did right and remain silent on things you were fking up.

I logged in every day to help coordinate a defense. I lead raid after raid to gear up the people you recruited. I talked to the nme guild leaders to try and at least facilitate civilized pvp.

You started the war and you gave the order to fire up the alliance.

I was loyal to Fresh until you killed it. Now I'm loyal to all the people you abandoned.

Whatever you may think of me now I still acknowledge all the good work you did and respect that part of you.

[heartbrand]

Does this mean ur gonna delvl ur warrior again to grief mistmoore?

https://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/photo-2.jpg?w=1000&h=750

[Luniz]

http://images.wildammo.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/27.gif

[bloodletter]

What im saying is whats the big deal over merging? Why cant guilds stay independent with a ponctual alliance to go after empire when its time to do that?

I just hate people getting their interest in the game take a nose dive when they feel theyre working to gear up the inner core with crumbs thrown their way if theyre lucky.

Fresh sounded like a guild like Red Dawn, people may talk shit about Heartbrand but beside his politics (which I dont really give a fuck in-game, even find it fun to play with people way different than me through MMOs), i thought he was one of the best as far as loot distribution trickling down to the masses. Even Nizzar with his RMT cut did more for people that werent officers then i ever saw in Azrael. In RD i felt emphasis was on fun, experiencing content for people new to end game, gearing out your toon, meeting cool normal people (lol).

When there was no PVP bonus and it was a huge grind to get to 60, Lite had us sit in Seb for 5 hours waiting to get crushed by Nihilum when the best thing to do was to use the weekend's xp bonus to get people to 60. When i argued against staying in Seb to get crushed, Lite told me "Thats the way it is because thats what the higher ups decided". He didnt have to justify himself to me over his selfish decisions (His toon was already 60) because i was just a peasant lower down. Ive met many people in RD later on i had never met before and they had the same types of stories to tell about Lite, so its not because it was me.

Now its been a while and people could argue against what i just said, that Azrael doesnt function like this anymore, but i highly doubt that.

If i was in Fresh, the burden of proof to explain how its not going to be like that would be resting on Lite's shoulders.

Yea <Red Dawn> was good stuff and it's too bad Heartbrand gave up, abandoning the cyber elves that needed him.

We've tried the coordination under separate banners, and you've watched it not work. Your proposition would be to 'just try harder' ? Trying harder won't work. Changes obviously need to be made, as it is right now fights that matter aren't being won. Sure Empire is being picked off here and there and a few targets might be acquired on a ground shake but over time it's just not the progress the server needs before August. Do you want to see Velious come around with 40-60% of the server under one <Empire> tag?

I don't.

[dontbanpls]

You are throwing me under the bus and trying to do the opposite of what I wanted for the guild. You didn't support me when I was getting attacked for the forum quest. You asked me to stop posting. You constantly let people blame me for the actions of others. and you practically showed people the way out. I trusted you to manage this alliance and the first thing I said I wanted was to stay independent and you failed to achieve that.

[Tradesonred]

Yea <Red Dawn> was good stuff and it's too bad Heartbrand gave up, abandoning the cyber elves that needed him.

We've tried the coordination under separate banners, and you've watched it not work. Your proposition would be to 'just try harder' ? Trying harder won't work. Changes obviously need to be made, as it is right now fights that matter aren't being won. Sure Empire is being picked off here and there and a few targets might be acquired on a ground shake but over time it's just not the progress the server needs before August. Do you want to see Velious come around with 40-60% of the server under one <Empire> tag?

I don't.

I just dont see why there needs to be a merge, youre gonna have to coordinate anyway through voice, yeah, just practice it. I dont have the inner diplomacy at hand but if what Lite is proposing sounds like "My way or you guys are going back on Azrael's kill list" big alarm bells would be ringing in my head right now.

Then it means that the problem is Lite's bullheaded way to get what he wants instead of trying to make an alliance work, not that its pointless to try harder to get different guild tags to coordinate together, which wouldnt surprise me one bit.

[daasgoot]

You are throwing me under the bus and trying to do the opposite of what I wanted for the guild. You didn't support me when I was getting attacked for the forum quest. You asked me to stop posting. You constantly let people blame me for the actions of others. and you practically showed people the way out. I trusted you to manage this alliance and the first thing I said I wanted was to stay independent and you failed to achieve that.

you should have kept your mouth shut on the forums for the better of your guild.

everyone knows this truth.

[daasgoot]

has anyone else ignored every single one of tradesonred's posts?

literally just skipping over them.

[heartbrand]

Yea <Red Dawn> was good stuff and it's too bad Heartbrand gave up, abandoning the cyber elves that needed him.

We've tried the coordination under separate banners, and you've watched it not work. Your proposition would be to 'just try harder' ? Trying harder won't work. Changes obviously need to be made, as it is right now fights that matter aren't being won. Sure Empire is being picked off here and there and a few targets might be acquired on a ground shake but over time it's just not the progress the server needs before August. Do you want to see Velious come around with 40-60% of the server under one <Empire> tag?

I don't.

Sorry bro, but when the XP bonus got completely removed and I spent 2 hours in a Sol B PL group to get people literally 1% XP, I think we went from list cut short every night to 6-8 people on prime time, back when the box had like 70 people online @ peak hours. Just had no interest starting all over again from square one.

[TacoSmasher]

why would anyone support your FQ over the past few months? cringe factor was strong

don't post was solid advice IMO

[Agatha]

seems to me the ship has sailed, and you guys can just go back to being fresh if this whole alliance thing doesn't work.

you guys would have won the last PVP encounter against holo if you guys where all under one leadership, if you were coordinated.

im going to give this alliance thing a try until it works, or it doesn't. then we can go back to our guilds.

but for some reason i dont think thats going to be the case, i think we are going to be able to take empire head on with what we got going here. and in the end thats what i have always wanted to do.

if we don't do it not, if empire gets in velious and gets primal loots before us, its over. you will never ever have a chance at fighting them on an even level ever again.

so this has to happen. we cant wait for fresh to be a stand alone guild 6 months from now after empire has farmed velious, we cant fight them evenly. there needs to be a decisive battle v empire pre velious.

[Colgate]

You don't have any idea what you're talking about.

And you're refusing to take accountability for your own actions.

I didn't start a guild war with the top dog. I didn't relentlessly antagonize them on FQ. All I ever did was defend you for what you did right and remain silent on things you were fking up.

I logged in every day to help coordinate a defense. I lead raid after raid to gear up the people you recruited. I talked to the nme guild leaders to try and at least facilitate civilized pvp.

You started the war and you gave the order to fire up the alliance.

I was loyal to Fresh until you killed it. Now I'm loyal to all the people you abandoned.

Whatever you may think of me now I still acknowledge all the good work you did and respect that part of you.

we gave you warning and plenty of opportunities to call off the hostilities between us, and you assured us many times you weren't going to team up with azrael against us

this is also on you, not just tunak

[Gardur]

It's all about you Max.

Think about the members man. They made up their minds without me. I tried telling you that they dont have the history with az. They don't know what you and Karsten know. They have no frame of reference for that.

You gave them the only context they have. A relentless assault on a leveling guild by the top raid guild instigated by your FQ. What did you think that would do?

Then when the merger talk started you said "we could always go back to empire" in ts and i got about a dozen tells that said fk no.

I didn't defend your FQ because I didn't agree with your approach. I told you what I thought and didn't let anyone else know my opinions on it. When you told me you'd give it a few days and think on it you lied to me and posted more inflammatory shit the next day.

I did defend the things you did well on many occasions. Still will.

Pouring water down a hill and wondering why it's flowing.....

[Nirgon]

We woulda said fuck no about coming back to us based on what Max did. It was drop him or drop us, you kept him and we held Fresh accountable.

Allying with Lite in a desperate "sell my soul to the devil" move and getting thrown out on the street.... man so goog, esp when I told you not to and you took it as "spin" to hold you back.

I think the best part is Heartbrand going to the RD vs Fresh score card and winning right now. Sweet.

[dontbanpls]

it's fine you are going to shit on everything I did, and try your hardest to achieve the opposite of what I wanted for <Fresh>. That's why I disbanded the guild. I did not make it so that you or anyone else could convince people to go help out the people I made the guild to get away from.

[HippoNipple]

has anyone else ignored every single one of tradesonred's posts?

literally just skipping over them.

You are not alone.

[Gardur]

we gave you warning and plenty of opportunities to call off the hostilities between us, and you assured us many times you weren't going to team up with azrael against us

this is also on you, not just tunak

Not true. I always told gongshow that the guild would vote. That i had a strong voice but not the only voice.

I told gong the intention was to have one contest to show that fresh wouldn't just get fk'd like a wet fish.

Lowbie grief continued and it was out of my hands from that point on.

[heartbrand]

god feels so good sitting in Empire with Aimchat while scum like Max and Karsten are left on the outs.

also bank statements

also rich

hehehehehehe

[SamwiseRed]

I feel bad for anyone leveling in Mistmoore in the coming weeks.

[klant]

I remember using aim chat back in 6th grade

[Agatha]

as someone who has done this many times before, im going to reminds all important parties you no longer want to converse here. nirgon is gathering intel to use against you.

focus on the future, don't try to justify yourself here. onward and upward.

GL to all.

[magician]

God i've been in the tippy top tier on this server for so long now I forget. I guess some are just born with it (me). Sux 2 be karsten/max type people :~)


also bank statements


also rich since birth


hehehe

[VZ_Xanit K'ven]

focus on the future, don't try to justify yourself here. onward and upward.

GL to all.[/QUOTE]

thread over

//

[Ezalor]

god feels so good sitting in Empire with Aimchat while scum like Max and Karsten are left on the outs.

also bank statements

also rich

hehehehehehe

cringed at admitting to sitting in an everquest chatroom all day, playing everquest constantly, and feeling need to validate income to everquest players

then i saw

heartbrand
Posts: 8,442

yiKes

[Macdeth]

Literally only went after Fresh due to Max boasting about vanquishing Holo and his intentions to destroy us in the end.

Gardur spitting in our face when offered an extremely generous second chance didn't help either, trust me.

Ain't no spin, go look at the Reddit post and the offer at the 90v134 at KC.

If you want Lite to take over your guild (merge) and fuck you over... be my guest.

I'd pick some of the ex-Nilly guys/Gardur to run it and toss his ass out if you know what's good for you.

Unless you truly believe that I think giving Lite control would some how doom us. Dude's got no clue about Velious, period.

http://i.imgur.com/54YY7mg.jpg

[Nirgon]

I am rich in pals

Sometimes Burt is a shitlord, but a great pal nonetheless

http://i.imgur.com/54YY7mg.jpg

?

U want some?

[Doors]

Didnt read thread.

Give new alliance guild 2 months before lite fucks it up and it falls apart with the vast majority of people that are new here from fresh going back to blue.

[Glenzig]

cringed at admitting to sitting in an everquest chatroom all day, playing everquest constantly, and feeling need to validate income to everquest players

then i saw

heartbrand
Posts: 8,442

yiKes

Saw Ezalor post. Knew there would be a post count attached.

Yolk's!

[georgie]

lol max is a freakshow and his lack of cooperation proves it

[heartbrand]

cringed at admitting to sitting in an everquest chatroom all day, playing everquest constantly, and feeling need to validate income to everquest players

then i saw

heartbrand
Posts: 8,442

yiKes

haven't logged in two weeks

also

http://www.wepridefest.com/default/assets/Image/Enterprise.jpg

[dontbanpls]

Didnt read thread.

Give new alliance guild 2 months before lite fucks it up and it falls apart with the vast majority of people that are new here from fresh going back to blue.

Ding ding ding!

[Colgate]

Not true. I always told gongshow that the guild would vote. That i had a strong voice but not the only voice.

I told gong the intention was to have one contest to show that fresh wouldn't just get fk'd like a wet fish.

Lowbie grief continued and it was out of my hands from that point on.

we told you lowbie grief would happen if you teamed up with azrael

then you assured us it was a one time thing so we put on the brakes

then you continued to team up with azrael against us

[Nirgon]

you gonna make the reddit post Colgate or me

I ain't never made a reddit so this could be fun

[Ezalor]

haven't logged in two weeks

also

http://www.wepridefest.com/default/assets/Image/Enterprise.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/DXH1QvA.jpg

[daasgoot]

we told you lowbie grief would happen if you teamed up with azrael

then you assured us it was a one time thing so we put on the brakes

then you continued to team up with azrael against us

you sound like a giant of the fire.

[Colgate]

crying "b-b-but you griefed us!" when we said that would happen if you teamed up with the rival guild p funny imo

[Uuruk]

http://i.imgur.com/DXH1QvA.jpg

Lmao

[Tradesonred]

Goot and Hippo poster boys as to why i would be pushing for an alliance not a merge if i was in fresh

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

http://i.imgur.com/DXH1QvA.jpg

Chortled

[Madbad]

Pouring water down a hill and wondering why it's flowing.....

[Genedin]

lol

[pingpong]

has anyone else ignored every single one of tradesonred's posts?

literally just skipping over them.

+1

[Genedin]

Tradesonred and Hippo, both people who don't actually play but love the r99 discourse. Both skipped every every time reading forums

[Tradesonred]

Those 5th grade comebacks

Cant hear you lalala

[Rednaros]

just deal with it that 4 guilds are combining to contest
worry about your own guild

[HippoNipple]

Tradesonred and Hippo, both people who don't actually play but love the r99 discourse. Both skipped every every time reading forums

been playing since 2010

[Genedin]

how many lvl 60s you have on red?

...see sig

[HippoNipple]

sick burn

[Genedin]

don't care what you do, not trying to pick a fight, post away, just stating the facts don't be upset

[HippoNipple]

I was just pointing out you were wrong, continue to not care bud

[Genedin]

if you have been playing here since 2010, and do not have a lvl 60, you don't really play here.

....see sig

[Tradesonred]

Im playing right now in fact

I have a lvl 60 and about 5 30-50 alts

So casual

[HippoNipple]

I play one from time to time but ones I lvled, 3 mid 50's. I feel like I play this game a lot, just not compared to others here.

[Slathar]

don't derail this thread with a bunch of drivel from retards. lets get back on topic here..


LONG LIVE FRESH FOR TEN MILLION YEARS!

[Genedin]

Was going for entire page of drivel derailment but got pulled away at work. I still like you slather.

[iruinedyourday]

I like how in this version of the movie Darth Vader gets the girl

[Biaxil]

5 star thread. Gardur>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Max

[Clark]

I have disbanded the guild tonight. The new alliance has wormed their way into the minds of several of my officers and have eroded the foundation of the guild. They refused to respect the initial terms of the alliance which was that <Fresh> was to remain an independent guild. I can not work with a guild that has goals to dismantle my guild, and I can't move forward without the core of my guild.

I strongly urge anyone who enjoyed their time in <Fresh> to stay out of the Alliance as it is directly responsible and being lead by people who are only motivated by power, greed, and a desire to usurp my authority over <Fresh> and take it away from the server.


I founded <Fresh> to keep guilds like Azrael and Empire out of power. Joining these people is turning on everything that I had hoped <Fresh> could provide to the server. It was supposed to be a safe haven for people who wanted to play in a normal environment. The dream you are chasing now is not mine, but that of someone who hates me.


I hope that you will make the right decision and refuse the alliance guild in solidarity with me.

Dude you led this guild like a maxed out berger. Not open to merging forces, and you thought a batphone wasn't necessary. Excuse me, but you're a complete and utter retard with all due respect.

[Clark]

I'm currently guilded with ex enemies of Nihilum I spent fighting for years, people I did bad shit to and who did bad shit to me.

If you couldn't put old grudges aside for the good of the server than you don't have the emotional maturity to run a guild.

Good post.

[dontbanpls]

Dude you led this guild like a maxed out berger. Not open to merging forces, and you thought a batphone wasn't necessary. Excuse me, but you're a complete and utter retard with all due respect.

who the fuck are you?

I merged with several guilds. Just because I didn't want to merge with one guild in particular because I have seen them destroy every other guild they have worked with I'm a retard? What the fuck have you accomplished on this server exactly?

[Kringe]

been playing since 2010

Been playing since 2010, on every EQ emu possible while hiding behind anonymous forum names.... Thats Hippo for you, he knows all... He is actually Rogean,Daxum,Devnoob, Image, Secrets, Voidd... All in one... guy literally knows everything about every server, or so he claims..


Sincerely,

Anon_01_Hippo_02

No pun intended.

[jeffd]

dis box cursed to have 1 strong guild and 1 scrub guild forever

[Colgate]

i think we ruined the server by getting all of aimchat active in EQ again

[Rednaros]

where were you the first 3 years of red..blue?

[Colgate]

i was here

[Crazycloud]

where were you the first 3 years of red..blue?

80 % of aimchat had quit when holo was ban

[Luniz]

Been playing since 2010, on every EQ emu possible while hiding behind anonymous forum names.... Thats Hippo for you, he knows all... He is actually Rogean,Daxum,Devnoob, Image, Secrets, Voidd... All in one... guy literally knows everything about every server, or so he claims..


Sincerely,

Anon_01_Hippo_02

No pun intended.

cringed

no pun intended

[Clark]

Over use of adjective cringe detected.

[Humerox]

I have disbanded the guild tonight. The new alliance has wormed their way into the minds of several of my officers and have eroded the foundation of the guild. They refused to respect the initial terms of the alliance which was that <Fresh> was to remain an independent guild. I can not work with a guild that has goals to dismantle my guild, and I can't move forward without the core of my guild.

I strongly urge anyone who enjoyed their time in <Fresh> to stay out of the Alliance as it is directly responsible and being lead by people who are only motivated by power, greed, and a desire to usurp my authority over <Fresh> and take it away from the server.


I founded <Fresh> to keep guilds like Azrael and Empire out of power. Joining these people is turning on everything that I had hoped <Fresh> could provide to the server. It was supposed to be a safe haven for people who wanted to play in a normal environment. The dream you are chasing now is not mine, but that of someone who hates me.


I hope that you will make the right decision and refuse the alliance guild in solidarity with me.

You did a lot of good work and made <Fresh> an alternative to guilds we didn't agree with...but I told you a long time ago we needed to ally against Holocaust. The merger is a good thing for the server...and that - ultimately - is what we need to be concerned about. I'm sorry to see the <Fresh> tag go but the plans that I've been hearing make sense for the community. We all have to put our differences aside for the greater good, bro. There seem to be a heckuva lot of people that agree with that philosophy.

[Clark]

We all have to put our differences aside for the greater good, bro. There seem to be a heckuva lot of people that agree with that philosophy.

:)

http://forums.jetcareers.com/attachments/tumblr_lld1yxb5c41qj8xi2o1_500-gif.27907/

[Drakaris]

You did a lot of good work and made <Fresh> an alternative to guilds we didn't agree with...but I told you a long time ago we needed to ally against Holocaust. The merger is a good thing for the server...and that - ultimately - is what we need to be concerned about. I'm sorry to see the <Fresh> tag go but the plans that I've been hearing make sense for the community. We all have to put our differences aside for the greater good, bro. There seem to be a heckuva lot of people that agree with that philosophy.

Good to see there were alot of good eggs in <Fresh>.

@Max, you really need to let your ego subside, you did amazing things in founding <Fresh> but even you can agree once the fog of rage has subsided that <Holocaust> / <Empire> is not healthy for the box. The new guild needs leadership to step up and form a long-standing council.

[mrproudbeard]

Over use of adjective cringe detected.

Cringe is a verb.

[Colgate]

according to drakar, a multi-year member of nihilum and still faithful to nizzar after their banishment and a several month long member of holocaust until he got kicked for freaking out over loot, a guild that dominates the raid scene is bad for the server

hmmm

[Drakaris]

according to drakar, a multi-year member of nihilum and still faithful to nizzar after their banishment and a several month long member of holocaust until he got kicked for freaking out over loot, a guild that dominates the raid scene is bad for the server

hmmm

You're right Colgate, it had nothing to do with you belittling me and my efforts in tells. Since we had such an unfortunate misunderstanding and since I know so much about you, we should hang out and be pals irl. I'll even buy a plane ticket over!

[LoliPops]

http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/mr-clippy-angry.jpg

[karsten]

I'd encourage the folks in the peanut gallery to remember that max put an environment together for players that was normal on a level unprecedented on this server. The folks in the guild know that, and the folks that weren't in the guild were almost universally pleasantly surprised by it.

Say what you want on that.

[Gardur]

I agree. Enough bashing Max. His legacy will remain on this box for the duration of it's existence. Not many of you can claim the same.

[Pumped]

I'd encourage the folks in the peanut gallery to remember that max put an environment together for players that was normal normal normal on a level unprecedented on this server. The folks in the guild know that, and the folks that weren't in the guild were almost universally pleasantly surprised by it.

Say what you want on that.

max is normal folks

[karsten]

you got shit out by holocaust, tomatoking, and max took you in. sit on that fact and look at your last post.

[contemptor]

All I can say, is it's very cute that Empire thinks they're skilled by zerging PVE with triple the numbers required to kill the encounters. When all the strategies were figured out years ago. Must require some real balls and talent.

[Tradesonred]

"For the greater good"

Famous last words

[Colgate]

All I can say, is it's very cute that Empire thinks they're skilled by zerging PVE with triple the numbers required to kill the encounters. When all the strategies were figured out years ago. Must require some real balls and talent.

what's your fastest nexona kill?

[lite]

I agree. Enough bashing Max. His legacy will remain on this box for the duration of it's existence. Not many of you can claim the same.

[jeffd]

so did fresh get absorbed into azrael? out of the loop on server drama & need a summary on the last 18 pgs

[Colgate]

yes

[jeffd]

yikes, already know how this 1 plays out

sry to all u fresh ppl

[Smedy]

mmm yes yeah, good forumquest will read this when i get to work, thank u all

[daasgoot]

so did fresh get absorbed into azrael? out of the loop on server drama & need a summary on the last 18 pgs

fresh azrael curse and friends formed a new guild <good guys>

2 officers from each guild form an 8 officer leadership council within <good guys>

dkp loot system

[Doors]

yikes, already know how this 1 plays out

sry to all u fresh ppl

[Smedy]

where were you the first 3 years of red..blue?

99% of aimchat got griefed so hard by the duke they joined him, the rest quit, heheh

it only took them 2 years of guilding with nihilum + getting full pockets of loot to backstab him and take him out, true good guys these aimchat

they have been ruining servers since vztz, all from being the wipe commitee to having people in their aimchat crew infiltrating servers as gm staff and summoning items for their friends, they done it, very dirty these scumbaggers

good guys better take em out, yall hear me, go hard

[Ezpk]

intredastin

[Iumuno]

I'd encourage the folks in the peanut gallery to remember that max put an environment together for players that was normal on a level unprecedented on this server. The folks in the guild know that, and the folks that weren't in the guild were almost universally pleasantly surprised by it.

Say what you want on that.

Agree with that.

[oricalum]

you got shit out by holocaust, tomatoking, and max took you in. sit on that fact and look at your last post.

yikes~!


you got shit out by holocaust, tomatoking, and max ( WAS STUPID ) to take you in. sit on that fact and look at your last post.
Yikes on what was said, Now allow me to edit what you really meant to say. See above.

[Doors]

99% of aimchat got griefed so hard by the duke they joined him, the rest quit, heheh

it only took them 2 years of guilding with nihilum + getting full pockets of loot to backstab him and take him out, true good guys these aimchat

they have been ruining servers since vztz, all from being the wipe commitee to having people in their aimchat crew infiltrating servers as gm staff and summoning items for their friends, they done it, very dirty these scumbaggers

good guys better take em out, yall hear me, go hard

Why don't you cry about it you fucking Swedish meatball.

[Slathar]

Why don't you cry about it you fucking Swedish meatball.

sick burn bro good one hes furious! hehe youre hilarious!

[Littlegyno 13.0]

sick burn bro good one hes furious! hehe youre hilarious!

wud luv to fight u in rl u piece of shit.

[Doors]

sick burn bro good one hes furious! hehe youre hilarious!

Remember when you used to be funny.

[Slathar]

Remember when you used to be funny.

hehe good one ur really good at trolling!

[Darthmuhh]

who the fuck are you?

I merged with several guilds. Just because I didn't want to merge with one guild in particular because I have seen them destroy every other guild they have worked with I'm a retard? What the fuck have you accomplished on this server exactly?

Max is bang on point with this one. I know I should not do this, but I will. When you Goog guys get into TS, make sure not to have just fresh peeps hanging in one channel and Az peeps in another. You guys need to inter mingle. You're welcome.

[oricalum]

I predict a complete collapse before July.

[beta]

I'd encourage the folks in the peanut gallery to remember that max put an environment together for players that was normal on a level unprecedented on this server. The folks in the guild know that, and the folks that weren't in the guild were almost universally pleasantly surprised by it.

Say what you want on that.

100%

[Slathar]

I predict a complete collapse before July.


Name Rank Class Kills Deaths Ratio Streak Points Guild
Hatelore 5779 23 32 0.72 0 2.14 Empire

[oricalum]

Lawl, slather so upset. It's going to be okay bwell. you'll bwell in time.

[Slathar]

Lawl, slather so upset. It's going to be okay bwell. you'll bwell in time.

Which is better:


Name Rank Class Kills Deaths Ratio Streak Points Guild
Hatelore 5779 23 32 0.72 0 2.14 Empire

+


Name Rank Class Kills Deaths Ratio Streak Points Guild
Purse 261 61 8 7.62 9 11.69 Empire





or



Name Rank Class Kills Deaths Ratio Streak Points Guild
Roberto 48 181 16 11.31 88 35.75 Friends


+



Name Rank Class Kills Deaths Ratio Streak Points Guild
Bwell 133 59 0 59.00 59 16.41 Friends





hehehe

[Tradesonred]

Remember when Slathar wasnt funny

[Slathar]

Remember when Slathar wasnt funny

remember when you lost a roll on a fungus and u threatened to fight ppl irl?





ps app denied

[oricalum]

Hahahahahaahah I never knew Roberto was slather, wow, that explains the level of firegiant I am witnessing. log in Roberto then big boy, you know where to find me, in my city. Remember that though when you arrive, Freeport is "mine" . Lawl

[Slathar]

Hahahahahaahah I never knew Roberto was slather, wow, that explains the level of firegiant I am witnessing. log in Roberto then big boy, you know where to find me, in my city. Remember that though when you arrive, Freeport is "mine" . Lawl

okay rank 6492

[Doors]

Slathar F5'ing this thread trying to say he isn't mad LOL.

[oricalum]

Yeah, you keep responding. Which is understandable from the last duel when you raged out and logged. You know where to find me, just don't ragequit this time when I make you waste soulfire charges.

[Ezalor]

Yeah, you keep responding.

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[Doctor Jeff]

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Yikes, indeed. Looks like someone is getting PAID to troll you morons. Have a nice day.

[Knuckle]

The beauty of an alliance is that its not a merge, its working together for a temporary goal that might extend into permanence if things work out well in the long run. An alliance isnt a dictatorship run by El Presidente.

Its funny that Lite thinks alliance means him calling the shots, and that when red dawn agreed to a simple do not raid with Azrael agreement with Nihilum, so trash geared, cool normal people like Thresh could get their epics (A no-brainer everybody pretty much in the guild agreed with after Heartbrand submitted it for approval), Lite interpreted that as "An alliance to destroy Azrael".
I merged basically three guilds on vztz. Alliances fail, mergers under strong leadership create a guild that can win mass PvP. You are all delusional clowns pretending to play risk if you think your shit attempts at communicating in mass pvp with clan ego can win

[LoliPops]

Cuckles with the Necro bump lol

[B4EQWASCOOL]

I'm currently guilded with ex enemies of Nihilum I spent fighting for years, people I did bad shit to and who did bad shit to me.

If you couldn't put old grudges aside for the good of the server than you don't have the emotional maturity to run a guild.

Most mature and level-headed post I've seen by Syft-x.

[Pumped]

I merged basically three guilds on vztz. Alliances fail, mergers under strong leadership create a guild that can win mass PvP. You are all delusional clowns pretending to play risk if you think your shit attempts at communicating in mass pvp with clan ego can win

hey dude how does brad pitts dick taste ?

[Colgate]

why do you post from two different accounts? taking a page out of sektor's and jibekn's books?

[Ragnaros]

why do you post from two different accounts? taking a page out of sektor's and jibekn's books?

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[hatelore]

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Is that how you feel fagnaros, everytime Colgate makes you plug or go into a screen drag frenzy?


















Lawl

[Bazia]

LAWL

[Ragnaros]

only encounter ive had against colgate was me hashtag vs him and chuckslaw
ended in a colgate and chuckslaw plug

[Colgate]

u fibbin?

[Ragnaros]

u need chapstick? I recommend blistex for your condition

[Colgate]

wot

[Qtip]

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JOIN EMPIRE TODAY!

[LoliPops]

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[Ragnaros]

LOL GOOD 1