Thinking of trying red?

[kingbuzzo]

Too crowded on blue? Not enough camps? Too many twinks? If you want Norrath, but with a wild west vibe, the red server is the place for you! Contest camps!

Example: Newbie1 is camping his alligator tooth earrings in the Qeynos catacombs. Newbie2 needs these earrings! On blue: Newbie2 watches his rats die and watches Newbie1 loot the earrings. On red: Newbie2 slays Newbie1, takes the camp, takes the earrings, and loots whatever coin Newbie1 had.

Tips on starting out: DO NOT READ THE RED FORUMS. The people that post on the forums are mostly all trolls and there should be no relation between the forums and the red server! Absolutely 100% avoid Crushbone, Mistmoore, and Unrest, unless you want to fight twinks and be surely slain. These people are veterans who have a lot of time on their hands and won't think twice about raping you. Try zones like Befallen, Runnyeye, Blackburrow, the Karanas. Etc.

Join red!

(Order Through Chaos) Looking to bring something together, through the chaos that is this server. A new crew, with some re-rolls, looking to progress together, and find static groups within the guild to build a solid foundation.

No intentions right now other then to fight bad guys in both pve and pvp. Not necessarily allied or against any established guilds. We have players in all American time zones and a small euro crew is growing. We are a very tight knit crew. We will help players that show initiative and come into team-speak and are social.

Over 25 members have found order within chaos. Will you be next? Type /who all order to find an officer or PST to, Othelo, Melvins, Jmann, Marfin, or Papua for more info.

http://i.imgur.com/DnHgLl7.png

Even if you are not interested in the guild, roll a level 1, and try it out.

If you have absolutely any questions about the server send me a private message here on the forums.

[Samoht]

Please move to red guild discussion forums.

http://www.project1999.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=58

[Swish]

It's advertising more than the guild, it's advertising the server. The opening line wouldn't have mentioned blue in a guild recruitment ad.

KC spiked at 42 people on blue last night. Amid a guy soloing basement at 60, and a monk soloing everything at turnkey... pullers (and other party members) were all running around KC trying to tag a repop before other pullers got to it. The fact is blue is very populated at the top end, the raid scene is a running joke with everyone running fraps trying to get other guilds raid banned.

Yet red is apparently highly toxic if you believe blue players who have either never played on red or did so for an hour once and made their minds up after dying once in pvp on a pvp server.

To any new players reading this (and veterans alike). Let your experiences on red speak for themselves, don't let these die hard fun ruining, fraps running, camp lawyering blue guys tell you what's good and what isn't.

Give red a try, it's nice to see new guilds emerging... this should be encouraged. This isn't a guild recruitment ad as much as a symbol of new things coming to red. Rated 5* <3

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/4c/4cd670afe31ced2993afa3d6647787ce5c27151e3f32a160e4 427789ffef8110.jpg

[waffel]

To any new players reading this (and veterans alike). Let your experiences on red speak for themselves, don't let these die hard fun ruining, fraps running, camp lawyering blue guys tell you what's good and what isn't.


Red players think blue is nothing but: "die hard fun ruining, fraps running, camp lawyering"
Blue players think red is twinks ganking noobs

Clearly both players are bias.

[Swish]

Red players think blue is nothing but: "die hard fun ruining, fraps running, camp lawyering"
Blue players think red is twinks ganking noobs

Clearly both players are bias.

The difference is that you'll only find twinks occasionally ganking groups in places like Mistmoore/Unrest.

The blue description happens in most zones.

[Connecticut]

Global chat turns me off of red.

It's not the fact that there's a global channel that bothers me, it's all the crying, shit talking, mouth breathing that ends up there.

The only people who care about your drama are your guildies, and the person you're in contention with. That's what /gu and /tell are for.

Getting bombarded with peoples petty squabbles in global channels are pretty off putting while leveling up.
Not only does it give you insight to the types of people who play there, it gives you insight to what the top end is like on the server, and like most people suggest, it appears to be straight up cancer.

[Samoht]

The global OOC on red is some of the most toxic vitriol I've ever seen. It takes a special kind of sociopath to play there. We're talking about the kind of people that are going to need some extra monitoring when this project finally shuts down to make sure they're burning down their parents houses or something.

[kingbuzzo]

Global chat turns me off of red.

It's not the fact that there's a global channel that bothers me, it's all the crying, shit talking, mouth breathing that ends up there.

The only people who care about your drama are your guildies, and the person you're in contention with. That's what /gu and /tell are for.

Getting bombarded with peoples petty squabbles in global channels are pretty off putting while leveling up.
Not only does it give you insight to the types of people who play there, it gives you insight to what the top end is like on the server, and like most people suggest, it appears to be straight up cancer.

You can hide OOC in your options. That's what I do. It's as if it doesn't even exist.

[zajurai]

The global OOC on red is some of the most toxic vitriol I've ever seen. It takes a special kind of sociopath to play there. We're talking about the kind of people that are going to need some extra monitoring when this project finally shuts down to make sure they're burning down their parents houses or something.
You're amazing.

[leftharted]

Just started 'committing' to p99 this week. Started on blue A BIT AGO, and even in the low areas its too crowded. its Manageable, but ruins my experience seeing orc 1 in WC freekin PERMA camped. I want to fight for camps, or at least be able to give up and hit up somewhere else. rather than the whole world being over-flowed.

So, I have migrated to Red. Ive never PVPed in EQ, tho. Havent had much PVP excitement yet even, as I am avoiding Faydwer until I can afford pots and the like... but im looking forward to getting bushwached a bunch. Because, I learn from experience.

but honestly, if the global OOC bothers you, get off the internet. Period.

Either grow some skin and ignore it, or at least chuckle at the stupidity. I lean between the two so far. Besides, having a global channel to uction your crap offi nto seems Awesome. As much of a nostalgia overload running through the WC tunnel on blue server was; I Dread the memories of spending Weeks camping there trying to sell crap. at least now I can have a budy help me xfer it to an alt, and ghetto-ooc-auction my wares while im off practicing.

PS.= cant wait till I can afford to twink a low lvl alt and do some twink wars over CB. I played WoW in 05-08 and after raiding became a giant theme park on rails, all I did was lower bracket Alt pvp. So, in conclusion; Cyall there. give me time to grind and experiment tho. need many much lube for entry. For Now. QQ

[Bboboo]

Most people hate the over use of the word 'toxic'.

I find it useful because it lets me know when to stop reading.

[Samoht]

ghetto-ooc-auction my wares while im off practicing.

How does Swish put it... Not classic.

[curtischoy]

As much of a nostalgia overload running through the WC tunnel on blue server was;

Refuse to listen to any opinion from someone who doesn't know what zone the tunnel is in.

Example: Newbie1 is camping his alligator tooth earrings in the Qeynos catacombs. Newbie2 needs these earrings! On blue: Newbie2 watches his rats die and watches Newbie1 loot the earrings. On red: Newbie2 slays Newbie1, takes the camp, takes the earrings, and loots whatever coin Newbie1 had.

This is always Red's argument. But it could easily happen the opposite way. Newbie1 slays Newbie2, keeps the camp, takes the earrings, and loot whatever coin Newbie2 had. This solves nothing for Newbie2, in fact it makes it worse. Instead of not being able to camp the earrings, he now has to do a cr and lost all his cash.


But OP was probably posting to all the new players we have had recently. You should try both servers and see which one you like. I prefer Blue, obviously others prefer Red.

[Wrench]

(Order Through Chaos) Looking to bring something together, through the chaos that is this server. A new crew, with some re-rolls, looking to progress together, and find static groups within the guild to build a solid foundation.

didnt realize this was your new forum account, although the avatar and sig shoulda been a giveaway

did your old one get banned?

This is always Red's argument. But it could easily happen the opposite way. Newbie1 slays Newbie2, keeps the camp, takes the earrings, and loot whatever coin Newbie2 had. This solves nothing for Newbie2, in fact it makes it worse. Instead of not being able to camp the earrings, he now has to do a cr and lost all his cash.


But OP was probably posting to all the new players we have had recently. You should try both servers and see which one you like. I prefer Blue, obviously others prefer Red.

^lotta sense in this post, the contest camps argument has never been great, and is even worse for +/-4

the end game argument is much better, but like you said, is a preference thing

[Rastignac]

Played both. Red simply way more fun. The high pop zones like Mistmoore and Unrest aren't always bad. Some ganking by twinks, but I've been hanging in MM on tune 1 for a week now and been ganked only once.

The tension from PvP deeply enhances immersion and sense of adventure when you are alone in South Karana and a ranger pops into zone.

Exp bonus is also amazing. Red just feels good.

OOC not very distracting at all unless you keep your eyes glued to it.

[Riotgirl]

Customary to state inb4 lock/RnF.

Played PvP MUDs in the 90s (predominantly GodWars - character was DanaScully) inc DikuMUDS, whose template EQ used. I do not enjoy PvP which is predominantly gear and level based - Guild Wars does this so much better.

If I wanted to play PvP, I'd play a predominantly skill-based MMO. I considered DarkFall for quite some time but never played. I did sub to Eve 3 or 4 times over the years, but never quite got into the game. However, if you enjoy EQs brand of PvP, more power to you.

That said, Red's population is way too low for me to contemplate. As for Orc 1 being perma camped, there are other Orc camps / zones. Besides, when Velious releases, everyone will jump straight back on their Mains, and there will be more space on Antonica.

[LoliPops]

Red is great! LOVE the XP bonus and the additional excitement/fear of PVP interaction. You really can't top the feels generated after slaying your enemies IMO.

[Rastignac]

Customary to state inb4 lock/RnF.

Played PvP MUDs in the 90s (predominantly GodWars - character was DanaScully) inc DikuMUDS, whose template EQ used. I do not enjoy PvP which is predominantly gear and level based - Guild Wars does this so much better.

If I wanted to play PvP, I'd play a predominantly skill-based MMO. I considered DarkFall for quite some time but never played. I did sub to Eve 3 or 4 times over the years, but never quite got into the game. However, if you enjoy EQs brand of PvP, more power to you.

That said, Red's population is way too low for me to contemplate. As for Orc 1 being perma camped, there are other Orc camps / zones. Besides, when Velious releases, everyone will jump straight back on their Mains, and there will be more space on Antonica.


I rarely have trouble finding groups, if that's what you mean. And I think it's wrong to think that playing on a PvP server is only appropriate for those who want hardcore PvP. It simply introduces a more exciting flavor and mystique that for me is immersive - a better replication of classic EQ.

[leftharted]

Refuse to listen to any opinion from someone who doesn't know what zone the tunnel is in.

Heh, yea, you got me... my bad. but you don't gotta get all junior high English teacher about it. 8P Plus im forum-trolling while at work.. which you probably are too... and if you aren't, then your at home sulking, probably playing EQ, all while forum-trolling. That's worse.

heh, but yea, all in good fun. I did totally newb that typo.

Customary to state inb4 lock/RnF.
That said, Red's population is way too low for me to contemplate. As for Orc 1 being perma camped, there are other Orc camps / zones. Besides, when Velious releases, everyone will jump straight back on their Mains, and there will be more space on Antonica.

well said. I agree; velious will help SOME, but not enough. and, I want to see velious too, which means once its released, the flood of Blue will infest all velious zones, all level ranges. So, GL =p

and every orc camp is perma camped, even the WC ones, especially at peak hours, which is my usual playtime. But hey, that's just my taste, im not trying to sway anyone left or right, just saying I actually enjoy the low pop.


my 2cp.

[Riotgirl]

Can Chanters - assuming player MR<100 - Mez, Tash, Charm, Order player fight Hags in Unrest Basement, / stand in lava in Sol A, bitch!?

I did take part in a one-off PvP event in EK on live (I joined the evil side as a lapsed HE Chanter) and managed to avoid being ganked by a high-level Warrior (thanks to invis), killed a player via Mez, Charm, forcing him to drown in the river, then got 1-shotted by a 900 point Ice Ball to the head via a Wizard whom I didn't see in a hut.

I did enjoy the event due to a lack of trash talk, and players playing with good grace - whilst trying to kill the other team.

Addendum: I would be potentially interested. However, my major concern is that, right now, we have over 1k on Blue; 171 on Red. I came back to EQ as much for the community as for the game. The severe lack of players on Red is a major turn-off for me.

[curtischoy]

Plus im forum-trolling while at work.. which you probably are too...

lol, yes. This is exaclty what I am doing :)

and every orc camp is perma camped, even the WC ones

try out the orc camps in lfay. No one is ever camping them. they are the same mobs as in cb and there are 4 seperate camps. iirc the only orcs are cents and legos, so no casters and lots of belts/pads. I suppose this doesn't help much if you are evil tho.

[wormed]

High population servers is classic, whiners!

Classic! Classic! Classic!

[Swish]

Red is great! LOVE the XP bonus and the additional excitement/fear of PVP interaction. You really can't top the feels generated after slaying your enemies IMO.

100% this - everyone remembers their first pvp kill :)

[Portasaurus]

100% this - everyone remembers their first pvp kill :)

Indeed they do! (http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=151376)