DE Cleric Lore

[deb4te]

Alright so I'm posting this here in hope that someone can make sense of this for me. I apologize if this isn't the place.

My character's story is really important to me and I really like to immerse myself in his potential philosophies and values. With that said, I currently play a 51 DE CLR on blue.

If I could have picked agnostic, I would have, but since I'm a cleric, we're forced to pick Innoruuk, the PRINCE OF HATE. HATE.

So like, why would I heal someone if I hate everyone? I keep trying to come up with a clever lore explanation but I can't. Can anyone shed some perspective on potential philosophies for clerics of innoruuk? I need something to base a story for my character off, but being a healer who hates everyone just isn't clicking with me, and I'd be lying if I said I wasn't considering re-rolling as a result (its already turning me into an altoholic). It's insane, I know, but like I said this stuff is important to me.

Thanks for reading <3

[Jitsumo]

I'm thinking something along the lines of a catholic priest that used to touch choir boys.

[deb4te]

Your sense of humor should be applauded worldwide.

/s

[zajurai]

Chances are you hate whoever you're healing, but for one reason or another it's in your greater interest to keep said person alive.

[Portasaurus]

You want to keep everyone alive so the zones are overcrowded and people bicker and fight over the limited numbers of camps and mobs... the hate and anger fuels your manabar for more heals!!

[deb4te]

Chances are you hate whoever you're healing, but for one reason or another it's in your greater interest to keep said person alive.

this is generally what I've been going with. I guess maybe I just wouldn't hate intensely at all times and have an actual personality. I guess just an angry, bitter cleric? i imagine being embarrassed at every heal i throw out, like "sorry dad I'm doing something nice". at the very least, I wish my char was female.

[Ravager]

You heal them to prolong their suffering. At least that's how the great Swit N`wah does it in Innoruuk's Glorious Name.

[Doragoon]

You understand that for hatred to rule, there must be people to hate. How can hate exist when there are no beings to harbor such feelings? You actually have greater perspective than the being you worship and understand that to truly increase his domain and power you must keep alive those that have the capacity to hate.

[Lopretni]

You want to keep everyone alive so the zones are overcrowded and people bicker and fight over the limited numbers of camps and mobs... the hate and anger fuels your manabar for more heals!!

plus the more you heal your tank the more shit you guys get to kill

your cleric could be pragmatic in the sense that he's not a great fighter but has aptitude to aid those who are and does so because it allows him to accomplish his goals. kind of like how the Catholics would bend over backwards to justify whatever molestation or crusade was going on at the time. i mean there's your hook, maybe he wanted to be a necromancer or a shadowknight but couldn't make the cut so had to resound himself to be a healer and being forced in such a paltry role has allowed his hatred to grow and grow and grow and that hatred fuels the otherwise benevolent magic you use on your quest to KILL FUCKING EVERYTHING

[deb4te]

You understand that for hatred to rule, there must be people to hate. How can hate exist when there are no beings to harbor such feelings? You actually have greater perspective than the being you worship and understand that to truly increase his domain and power you must keep alive those that have the capacity to hate.

this is brilliant, thank you

[Portasaurus]

Your religion teaches the ways of hate, conflict, death and things like that... being as you are such a stout follower of the Prince of Hate, you apply this hatred to the actual principles on which your beliefs are founded and do the exact opposite of everything you learned as a young Dark Elf!

In the end, your behavior and actions would truly inspire great hatred in the soul of your deity. Rustling your own god!! Perhaps this is a sign of greater things to come in your character's story...

[deb4te]

plus the more you heal your tank the more shit you guys get to kill

your cleric could be pragmatic in the sense that he's not a great fighter but has aptitude to aid those who are and does so because it allows him to accomplish his goals. kind of like how the Catholics would bend over backwards to justify whatever molestation or crusade was going on at the time. i mean there's your hook, maybe he wanted to be a necromancer or a shadowknight but couldn't make the cut so had to resound himself to be a healer and being forced in such a paltry role has allowed his hatred to grow and grow and grow and that hatred fuels the otherwise benevolent magic you use on your quest to KILL FUCKING EVERYTHING

This re-enforces my whole life.
thank you.

[deb4te]

Your religion teaches the ways of hate, conflict, death and things like that... being as you are such a stout follower of the Prince of Hate, you apply this hatred to the actual principles on which your beliefs are founded and do the exact opposite of everything you learned as a young Dark Elf!

In the end, your behavior and actions would truly inspire great hatred in the soul of your deity. Rustling your own god!! Perhaps this is a sign of greater things to come in your character's story...

dude... this is awesome
you're a lot smarter than I am

[Lady Julae]

...So like, why would I heal someone if I hate everyone? I keep trying to come up with a clever lore explanation but I can't. Can anyone shed some perspective on potential philosophies for clerics of innoruuk? ...

Hey there. I am a long time role-player in EQ. Suffice to say that my biggest role is ta-dah! DE Cleric of Innoruuk! You will find that Hate is a powerful weapon, and to answer your question, there are many reasons why a disciple of hate would heal another, some of which include:

1. When you hate someone, you enjoy watching them suffer. So why not heal them while they are being shredded to death by gnolls so you can prolong their suffering?

2. Part of your mission as one who follows hate is to ensure the ones you hate, are indebted to you, especially your enemies. Nothing is more glorious than the paladin filth of Erollissi begging for your blessing to keep them alive. By having the infidels call upon your intervention with The Dark Father, they are brought one step closer to hate.

3. When you heal someone, that dark, magical energy comes from Innoruuk. When you imbue someone with that healing essence, their soul becomes closer to hate, and eventually one with the Dark Father.

4. Healing is not an act of kindness on your part, it is an act of selfishness on the recipient who wishes to remain alive instead of dying a heroic death. When you heal someone who expects you to heal, you aren't being kind, you are simply entertaining their selfish desires.

5. Disciples of Hate heal others to gain their favor. This is not out of a desire to be loved, but rather a ploy to make people who love, love you; As a result, they are knowingly loving you, but are unknowingly loving the embodiment of Hate, which all priests of Hate represent. Which of course brings those who love, closer to hate!

We can discuss more on the topic of hate in game. Look for me in game, Jhulae. See you soon!

[serjordanmormont]

As a devout cleric of the Prince of Hate, your job is to fight for the cause of spreading hatred all across Norrath. Innoruuk has chosen you to preach his cause & keep his armies alive by blessing you with healing powers. Even the armies of hate require healers.

You could even take it a step further and limit yourself to only grouping with followers of Innoruuk. That would make your life a lot harder but could be fun.

If you don't want to go quite that far, you could always look at it from a selfish angle. Are your party members just pawns that you are playing to further your own agenda? If so, perhaps they are a necessary evil, & must be kept alive as a mean to an end.

It's your character so you can put whatever restraints you want on them. Get creative with it.

Either way, embrace the hatred!

[loramin]

The way I see it, you have to look at ancient priests. Were the priests of Dionysus drunk all of the time? Of course not, though they did get raging drunk at the feasts they organized. Were priests of war gods constantly on the battlefield? No, but when war did happen they were ready to bless soldiers. And priests of death gods, did they run around killing people? Of course not, they simply handled burial arrangements .

The same thing applies to priests of a god of hate: they do not hate everyone all the time. If they did the Dark Elf civilization would collapse. Instead, they do the same things as any other priest (including healing), and when they find an appropriate moment to celebrate or spread hate they do so.

An adventuring Innoruuk priest would still heal/buff their companions, like any cleric, because it's in their own self-interest to do so ... but they'll yell about how those companions are pathetic cowards who need to swing their swords with the full fury of their hate while healing them. Similarly while a Rodcet Nife priest might advocate leaving non-KOS mobs alone, an Innoruuk priest would encourage his companions to slaughter them. And while a Bristlebane cleric might encourage rolling a die to resolve a fight over loot, the Innoruuk priest would encourage a physical fight over it (and then rez everyone after; after all, he wants loot too).

[myriverse]

Alright so I'm posting this here in hope that someone can make sense of this for me. I apologize if this isn't the place.

My character's story is really important to me and I really like to immerse myself in his potential philosophies and values. With that said, I currently play a 51 DE CLR on blue.

If I could have picked agnostic, I would have, but since I'm a cleric, we're forced to pick Innoruuk, the PRINCE OF HATE. HATE.

So like, why would I heal someone if I hate everyone? I keep trying to come up with a clever lore explanation but I can't. Can anyone shed some perspective on potential philosophies for clerics of innoruuk? I need something to base a story for my character off, but being a healer who hates everyone just isn't clicking with me, and I'd be lying if I said I wasn't considering re-rolling as a result (its already turning me into an altoholic). It's insane, I know, but like I said this stuff is important to me.

Thanks for reading <3
Just because you worship hate doesn't mean you hate everyone to the point of letting them die. The more living schmucks in the world, the more hate there is. If you let too may die, hatred drops to zero. That's not doing anybody any good.

Think of all the negative faction hits an active combatant is racking up. That's hate being generated. Every moment that guy remains a corpse is a lack of hate being generated.

[polishanarchy]

I like everyone's answers here, but this also comes to mind...

1. Buff and heal your way to 46+
2. Join a raiding guild
3. Go to plane of hate
4. Heal the main tank
5. Slay your god

edit: This is pretty much my line of thinking with Cazic Thule, who I have never found very compelling as a deity.

[Champion_Standing]

The way I see it, you have to look at ancient priests. Were the priests of Dionysus drunk all of the time? Of course not, though they did get raging drunk at the feasts they organized. Were priests of war gods constantly on the battlefield? No, but when war did happen they were ready to bless soldiers. And priests of death gods, did they run around killing people? Of course not, they simply handled burial arrangements.

I think this just makes DE Clerics Comcast CSRs

[Swish]

TL;DR: Purple line as many people as you can before CH lands, Innoruuk would be proud ;)

[Champion_Standing]

Really trying hard not to post a slightly modified Obama bio

[webrunner5]

You want to keep everyone alive so the zones are overcrowded and people bicker and fight over the limited numbers of camps and mobs... the hate and anger fuels your manabar for more heals!!

Yeah, burn the Witch at the Stake!! :p

[Kalex716]

Nothing brings people closer together like mutually hating something.

I would imagine even Innoruk would appreciate camaraderie in such a linear capacity.

[loramin]

I think this just makes DE Clerics Comcast CSRs

Exactly! Who inspires more hatred than a Comcast CSR?

[iruinedyourday]

Alright so I'm posting this here in hope that someone can make sense of this for me. I apologize if this isn't the place.

My character's story is really important to me and I really like to immerse myself in his potential philosophies and values. With that said, I currently play a 51 DE CLR on blue.

If I could have picked agnostic, I would have, but since I'm a cleric, we're forced to pick Innoruuk, the PRINCE OF HATE. HATE.

So like, why would I heal someone if I hate everyone? I keep trying to come up with a clever lore explanation but I can't. Can anyone shed some perspective on potential philosophies for clerics of innoruuk? I need something to base a story for my character off, but being a healer who hates everyone just isn't clicking with me, and I'd be lying if I said I wasn't considering re-rolling as a result (its already turning me into an altoholic). It's insane, I know, but like I said this stuff is important to me.

Thanks for reading <3

If you heal the warriors of innoruk, with his blessing they will rape and pillage the good races of norrath, bringing tears of rage and sadness to thier children.

er, I mean this, is the literal translation:

You want to keep everyone alive so the zones are overcrowded and people bicker and fight over the limited numbers of camps and mobs... the hate and anger fuels your manabar for more heals!!

Oh man I also like this one

1. When you hate someone, you enjoy watching them suffer. So why not heal them while they are being shredded to death by gnolls so you can prolong their suffering?

and I also like to rustle my own god. Thats a good one too, Port!

[Clark]

I'm thinking something along the lines of a catholic priest that used to touch choir boys.

lol