Teamspeak/Voice chat - NOT CLASSIC, can we ban it?

[tristantio]

See here, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_Speak was not even released until 2001 (Luclin days).

Lets get back to pure chat raids and grouping like we had in the good ol' days.

It shouldn't be that hard using the custom dll included with p99 to override the mic input channels to disable the player's microphone while playing EQ.

[Erati]

roger wilco was classic n avail w Velious

do not disable my mic!

[skootr]

People didn't have high speed internet either! Throttle everyone to 56K speeds! Then throttle the CPU and memory to 1999 specs! Then force everyone to go buy a CRT monitor with max 640x480!

dumb

[Baler]

aw man I remember using Roger Wilco that's old school.
ahh the memories.

[Daldaen]

See here, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_Speak was not even released until 2001 (Luclin days).

Lets get back to pure chat raids and grouping like we had in the good ol' days.

It shouldn't be that hard using the custom dll included with p99 to override the mic input channels to disable the player's microphone while playing EQ.

2001 was Velious.

2002 was Luclin.

[Seltius]

People didn't have high speed internet either! Throttle everyone to 56K speeds! Then throttle the CPU and memory to 1999 specs! Then force everyone to go buy a CRT monitor with max 640x480!

dumb

Woot give me a place to sell all the monitors we have in the attic! I have 2 56k modems I could sell also! Recycled hardware ftw

[Collum20]

Me and a friend used Microsoft sidewinder for voice in Karnak.

Dyskord

[Champion_Standing]

MPlayer.com bros

[Ele]

I hate the over use of Team Speak and Vent.

Usually just a bunch of verbal diarrhea and it causes people to not read guild/group chat and miss important information since they are waiting for an audio cue while tabbed out or watching TV.

[curtischoy]

I remember having DSL when Kunark/Velious was out. Maybe I was one of few cuz my dad had it because of his work.

Also, somehow ban Redbull!

[Champion_Standing]

+1 for ts ban

[MycahDavith]

I hate the over use of Team Speak and Vent.

Usually just a bunch of verbal diarrhea and it causes people to not read guild/group chat and miss important information since they are waiting for an audio cue while tabbed out or watching TV.

Sounds like an issue with peoples brains then. Not the software or application.

[Seltius]

I hate the over use of Team Speak and Vent.

Usually just a bunch of verbal diarrhea and it causes people to not read guild/group chat and miss important information since they are waiting for an audio cue while tabbed out or watching TV.

I would think the overuse/abuse of wakeup channels would be the bigger thing to hate.

[Daldaen]

Sounds like an issue with peoples brains then. Not the software or application.

Ours brains rewire based on the application/utilization of new technology. It's understandable that people rely on Vent/TS vastly more now a days than they did back then.

I would agree with Ele though. The crutch that is voice talk, cripples people's ability to type quickly, and pay attention to chat boxes. There are many people I know who don't read guild chat at all because they expect everything important in Vent/TS.

I learned to type fast largely due to EQ/Raid leading with no voice chat. One of the most impressive aspects of my guild on PC was our ability to down extremely complex events with no required voice chat program. We were just articulate enough to put across the important information that everyone needed to get the job done.

If Teamspeak and Ventrilo and Skype all died for a day, and Rogean did a repop. Oh lord Jesus would that be a sight to behold.

[Lisset]

People didn't have high speed internet either! Throttle everyone to 56K speeds! Then throttle the CPU and memory to 1999 specs! Then force everyone to go buy a CRT monitor with max 640x480!

dumb

Speak for yourself, I was running at 1024 x 768 with DSL.

[Ele]

Then throttle the CPU and memory to 1999 specs!

EQ would probably run smoother then compared to the myriad issues it has with modern laptops. :D

[golten]

teamspeak launched about a year after EQ... pretty sure everyone was using... i remember using it.. in 6th grade... in 2002..... sooooo......

[Thulack]

Ours brains rewire based on the application/utilization of new technology. It's understandable that people rely on Vent/TS vastly more now a days than they did back then.

I would agree with Ele though. The crutch that is voice talk, cripples people's ability to type quickly, and pay attention to chat boxes. There are many people I know who don't read guild chat at all because they expect everything important in Vent/TS.

I learned to type fast largely due to EQ/Raid leading with no voice chat. One of the most impressive aspects of my guild on PC was our ability to down extremely complex events with no required voice chat program. We were just articulate enough to put across the important information that everyone needed to get the job done.

If Teamspeak and Ventrilo and Skype all died for a day, and Rogean did a repop. Oh lord Jesus would that be a sight to behold.

I miss talking for the hell of it in Teamspeak :D

[indiscriminate_hater]

is this serious? i can think of several ways to get around this that would require very little effort

[Ele]

is this serious? i can think of several ways to get around this that would require very little effort

Would it be RMT if I set up a conference call that charges everyone in it .50 a minute (funds going to me of course) and I require all my raiders to use it?

[Cazlo]

Ours brains rewire based on the application/utilization of new technology. It's understandable that people rely on Vent/TS vastly more now a days than they did back then.

I would agree with Ele though. The crutch that is voice talk, cripples people's ability to type quickly, and pay attention to chat boxes. There are many people I know who don't read guild chat at all because they expect everything important in Vent/TS.

I learned to type fast largely due to EQ/Raid leading with no voice chat. One of the most impressive aspects of my guild on PC was our ability to down extremely complex events with no required voice chat program. We were just articulate enough to put across the important information that everyone needed to get the job done.

If Teamspeak and Ventrilo and Skype all died for a day, and Rogean did a repop. Oh lord Jesus would that be a sight to behold.

It's a double edged sword though because often important cues are relayed in vent and not so much in chat so if you aren't in vent/ts you're sitting there wondering what's going on staring at a dead chat box.

[-Catherin-]

See here, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_Speak was not even released until 2001 (Luclin days).

Lets get back to pure chat raids and grouping like we had in the good ol' days.

It shouldn't be that hard using the custom dll included with p99 to override the mic input channels to disable the player's microphone while playing EQ.

http://ahungry.com/eqauctions/ is not classic :p

[Seltius]

Would it be RMT if I set up a conference call that charges everyone in it .50 a minute (funds going to me of course) and I require all my raiders to use it?

No but anyone who paid the fee would be paying an idiot tax so they probably deserve to be charged.

[Zalaerian]

TS provides a higher lvl of game play

Voted no

[Swish]

http://ahungry.com/eqauctions/ is not classic :p

http://i.imgur.com/opV4Dt8.gif

[RevengeofGio]

http://ahungry.com/eqauctions/ is not classic :p


Owned.

"Get off my lawn!" - this thread.

Ps- wouldn't the OP's suggestion be less classic?

[Tasslehofp99]

I hate the over use of Team Speak and Vent.

Usually just a bunch of verbal diarrhea and it causes people to not read guild/group chat and miss important information since they are waiting for an audio cue while tabbed out or watching TV.

this times 1000


I can't tell you how many times I've attempted to retrieve Adderall prescriptions for guild mates who are oblivious to anything other than spoken words in voice chat. :o

[Champion_Standing]

Would it be RMT if I set up a conference call that charges everyone in it .50 a minute (funds going to me of course) and I require all my raiders to use it?

No that's just smart raid leading. No different than asking your guild to donate to support the guild website.

[Champion_Standing]

this times 1000


I can't tell you how many times I've attempted to retrieve Adderall prescriptions for guild mates who are oblivious to anything other than spoken words in voice chat. :o

You give out adderall to your guild? I want in.

[Supaskillz]

I hate vent/ts, but I'm in the minority

[Ele]

Imagine a word without teamspeak and only 10 lines of chat in a single chat window!

Paradise!

[kaev]

Imagine a word without teamspeak and only 10 lines of chat in a single chat window!

Paradise!

I'm pretty sure that when I played games involving pairs of dice there was near constant "voicechat" involved.

[MycahDavith]

You mean being able to hear peoples tone? inflection in their voice? being able to communicate FASTER than typing everything out? The different sound of each person, some are surprises and some are scary as hell?Their laughter? Getting to know them in a different way than just typing out everything? That's such a horrible benefit. Yeah down with VOIP!!!

....


Just because there are morons in the world who let every single thought escape their mouths. Displaying their lack of social compass and ability to actually talk to another human being. Not able to control themselves, their volume or general idiocy...

Means VOIP is bad? Try moderating it, like a forum, band, mute kick, move to another channel... its not that hard.

[Clark]

I hate the over use of Team Speak and Vent.

Usually just a bunch of verbal diarrhea and it causes people to not read guild/group chat and miss important information since they are waiting for an audio cue while tabbed out or watching TV.

[GnashingOfTeeth]

Well technically to be full classic you should be forced to play on hardware that existed at the time, nothing more powerful.

[blondeattk]

op is clearly a dumb shithead. do something useful with your life, and leave the norms to enjoy life.

Ive never used teamspeak or ventrillo in 15 years of playing eq, but i like the option of using it.... cos am not a naxi twat!

[Cecily]

op is clearly a dumb shithead. do something useful with your life, and leave the norms to enjoy life.

Ive never used teamspeak or ventrillo in 15 years of playing eq, but i like the option of using it.... cos am not a naxi twat!

I agree with this poster that TS / Vent should be banned because not classic.

[Brocode]

there wasnt any computer with the capacities with the ones we are playing, DOWNGRADE NOW, not classic....

thats absurd... but oh well all those non classic not related to server can be easily implemented client side ;) improves your classic experience.

[Kutsumo]

What a great idea! I also like the idea of limiting people's PCs, but why stop at just system resources? Everyone should be required to have 1999 era peripherals (mouse, keyboard) also! There should also be ban hammers for anyone asking for non-classic features and whining about wanting instancing.

[Seltius]

I agree with this poster that TS / Vent should be banned because not classic.


Also remove Batphone not classic! Go back to call lists of members and calling every person to tell them the raid target is up. The fastest dialer wins!

With the removal of those 3 things you could also get rid of the variance on any nonvariance mobs from classic. Then the variance mobs just have to be camped by raid forces for the entirety of the variance until spawn. The others would be timed and you could have raiders at the zone in or right outside the zone ready to race as soon as the clock hit 0hr! Maybe set up a P99 doomsday clock that due to spawn timers and politics in game could be changed...

Hmm think of the possiblities if we just rolled back technology!

[mgellan]

People didn't have high speed internet either! Throttle everyone to 56K speeds! Then throttle the CPU and memory to 1999 specs! Then force everyone to go buy a CRT monitor with max 640x480!

dumb

I had cable in 1999, never played EQ on a modem ever...

Regards,
Mg

[webrunner5]

If Teamspeak and Ventrilo and Skype all died for a day, and Rogean did a repop. Oh lord Jesus would that be a sight to behold.

Now that's funny. :eek:

[Lady Julae]

Before TS/Ventrilo me and my "regular group" would just bridge our calls and talk via regular land line.

[Zalaerian]

I enjoy running 24 gig ram w ramdisk. 2 sec zone times classic

Thanks

[SantagarBrax]

See above

[Caridry]

Before TS/Ventrilo me and my "regular group" would just bridge our calls and talk via regular land line.

Holy long distance batman! :eek:

[toolshed]

Lets have a custom OS that has to be installed so that we can monitor what programs someone is using in the background, and then ban them for trying to load or install any other program.

Also people may be able to talk on the phone still so maybe we should have regional LAN parties where computers can have the P1999-OS installed, so we can monitor the usage of any type of voice chat between players. We will need people to monitor these LAN parties though because we don't want people to talk to each other, since that would be cheating. Maybe we can look into sensory deprivation tactics like they use in Gitmo so that no sound can be heard from outside of EQ. I think Sirken could then monitor these LAN centers by video and ban anyone found talking to eachother.

[Champion_Standing]

Lets have a custom OS that has to be installed so that we can monitor what programs someone is using in the background, and then ban them for trying to load or install any other program.

Also people may be able to talk on the phone still so maybe we should have regional LAN parties where computers can have the P1999-OS installed, so we can monitor the usage of any type of voice chat between players. We will need people to monitor these LAN parties though because we don't want people to talk to each other, since that would be cheating. Maybe we can look into sensory deprivation tactics like they use in Gitmo so that no sound can be heard from outside of EQ. I think Sirken could then monitor these LAN centers by video and ban anyone found talking to eachother.

I agree with this.

[thieros]

AS AN OFFICER, I THINK IS SPEAK FOR ALL BDA IN SAYING THAT VENTRILO/TEAMSPEAK/SKYPE ARE NOT CLASSIC. BAN IT AND BRING BACK AOL INSTANT MESSENGER

[Issar]

I had cable in 1999, never played EQ on a modem ever...

Regards,
Mg
I had to go from cable in Las Vegas to dial up when I moved back to OC For a few months. I was in OC when akunark dropped. I was pretty pissed for a while.

[Silentsong]

I hate vent/ts, but I'm in the minority

With you on that; i never use it. Last thing i want to hear are a bunch of nerds and some people really SHOULDN'T be talking :-)

But along with the joke fest - Twitch not classic. Spellbook classic but good riddance to that.

[Silentsong]

Now that's funny. :eek:

people would use a phone i would imagine.

[Voland]

I remember having DSL when Kunark/Velious was out. Maybe I was one of few cuz my dad had it because of his work.


I was in beta for cable Internet in 99. It was weird set up: download through cable, but upload by dial-up.

[kaev]

AS AN OFFICER, I THINK IS SPEAK FOR ALL BDA IN SAYING THAT VENTRILO/TEAMSPEAK/SKYPE ARE NOT CLASSIC. BAN IT AND BRING BACK AOL INSTANT MESSENGER

^^ MY HERO!!! <3

[Champion_Standing]

With you on that; i never use it. Last thing i want to hear are a bunch of nerds and some people really SHOULDN'T be talking :-)

But along with the joke fest - Twitch not classic. Spellbook classic but good riddance to that.


I do get the reluctance to use TS, there are a lot of times where I just don't feel like hearing it either. But it does allow for a more natural interaction and better development of a community. In most of the guilds I have been in, the people who don't hang out in the TS are usually kinda looked at as not "really" being part of the guild.

That being said I have been in some guilds TS that I would never go into again, but I have also joined guilds where the TS allowed me to feel like part of a community and improved my gaming experience tremendously. If you are in a guild where the TS makes your experience worse...then you just need a different guild or community lol.


TL;DR don't be scared of TS it can be fun

[Shaniril]

People didn't have high speed internet either! Throttle everyone to 56K speeds! Then throttle the CPU and memory to 1999 specs! Then force everyone to go buy a CRT monitor with max 640x480!

dumb

I played at 800x600 at launch k thx.

[Swish]

If you are in a guild where the TS makes your experience worse...then you just need a different guild or community lol.


I'd agree with that... TS should be inviting, even if you're mic shy.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

I will only say this:

on classic, my typing skills became so awesome I could have toured the country giving exhibitions.

I always liked that about back then. My guild did not use voice chat of any kind, and we would still get organized and give detailed instructions just via /tells and /gu or /shout if we had the zone to ourselves. And we got stuff done, just using dumb ol' typing lol.

Those days are gone, OP, but I agree with the sentiment. I laugh when I think about what the logs must have looked like during our raids. All the jokes, and the chatter, all the instructions etc., all just typed out.

It was fun :)

[myriverse]

I played at 800x600 at launch k thx.
Me too.

But people who play in other than 1-1/3 ratio should be banned! :eek:

[RevengeofGio]

Now that's funny. :eek:



some funny conference call bills ;)

[GnashingOfTeeth]

I had TW roadrunner in 99, and it was the shit. 1 Mb down and 128k up.
Enough classic shit, either cap the hardware and force people to play that way or STFU.
Red ppl would kill you for this. And promote the stupid, Derubel would agree, oh wait, he was dirty.
Just sayin, and Lron would vouch this as he loves ribs.

[pink grapefruit]

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1UtmK91sF7h

[Lady Julae]

The people who hate/avoid TS/Ventrilo are those men who mostly play female avatars and are too afraid to reveal to their group/guild that they are really a dude at the keyboard and not a chick. :D

[Daldaen]

The people who hate/avoid TS/Ventrilo are those men who mostly play female avatars and are too afraid to reveal to their group/guild that they are really a dude at the keyboard and not a chick. :D

Nah. There's just a lot of times I don't want to listen to nerds talk about nerd things and get all worked up over pixels.

It's a lot less annoying to read nerds getting worked up over pixels than it is to hear them talk.

[Vorkon]

I've been in guilds that have used TS/Vent/Mumble where in the raid channel it was locked so that only a couple of people can talk (officers, raid leaders, pullers, etc...) and all you get to do is listen, and its worked out fine.

I've also been in a couple of guilds where their voice chats were the absolute wild west, and still had fun.

I'm fine with either, We used roger wilco back in the day, but my totally sweet 56k modem (and 33k cell phone modem in college) couldn't handle much. First couple of times tanking things of importance in Kael/Ntov the main puller called me on a landline.

It's just another tool in the toolbox.

[PDX0621]

First couple of times tanking things of importance in Kael/Ntov the main puller called me on a landline.

It's just another tool in the toolbox.

Now THAT'S oldschool! Did you have a 2nd phone line just for gaming? Growing up, my buddy who introduced my to EQ live lived a few houses down the street from me. We ended up buying walkie talkies from Radioshack so we could talk while we played. Hardcore.

[Swish]

Now THAT'S oldschool! Did you have a 2nd phone line just for gaming? Growing up, my buddy who introduced my to EQ live lived a few houses down the street from me. We ended up buying walkie talkies from Radioshack so we could talk while we played. Hardcore.

Geez that is hardcore! I had a 2nd phone line for internets, was the only way to go.

[Lopretni]

living under the threat of an attack from ISIS isn't classic either, can we revive Osama Bin Laden somehow?

[Swish]

living under the threat of an attack from ISIS isn't classic either, can we revive Osama Bin Laden somehow?

He's alive in the US.

http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/weirdalfoil_2322.jpg

[sambal]

I personally hate talking to people in vent if it's not raiding, I feel like I'm 13 again talking to my friends on the phone with nothing to say.

[Miasaou]

I really enjoy getting to talk in vent/ts/mumble, especially for raids. I haven't gotten to play much yet here but it seems like most people I've run into don't agree. Which makes me a sad panda.

[pink grapefruit]

I really enjoy getting to talk in vent/ts/mumble, especially for raids. I haven't gotten to play much yet here but it seems like most people I've run into don't agree. Which makes me a sad panda.

Don't be a sad panda. Voice chat is the norm at the high end.

[Lopretni]

He's alive in the US.

http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/weirdalfoil_2322.jpg

America ships the people it arranges deaths for to Cuba though. Elvis, Tupac and Michael Jackson are all there now.