Test it

[Sampson]

Let's try test running Rallos Zek rules. Have it set for X amount of time, after that period see what people think of it. See if they like it the way it was or RZ Style.

[FaithlessKR]

posting in a pointless thread

[pink grapefruit]

So just turn item loot on?

[Colgate]

enabling item loot on an existing server is an incredibly bad idea, and i say this as someone who would be in one of the best positions to benefit from item loot

[Trainhop]

wtb 50 weighted axes

[Clark]

There's a reason RZ ruleset was chosen when they merged all three servers together. Big mistake not adopting RZ ruleset. Is why population is struggling so badly. :l

[Clark]

enabling item loot on an existing server is an incredibly bad idea, and i say this as someone who would be in one of the best positions to benefit from item loot

Why? Lol..

[Clark]

^ LOL +1

[Colgate]

Why? Lol..

because i have a lot less to lose by having tons of great no drop gear versus the average player that doesn't have nearly as much top tier no drop armor

[Lime]

because i have a lot less to lose by having tons of great no drop gear versus the average player that doesn't have nearly as much top tier no drop armor

High end gear would probably have no drop tags removed due to the huge proliferation of no drop gear brought upon by 3 years of kunark.

Haste belts from air, VP gear, planar armor, would all have to be lootable. Otherwise you can fill almost every slot with no drop and it defeats the purpose, getting worse into velious where you can get full no drop.

[Colgate]

regardless of no drop tags or not, it would shit on any new players starting up with hardly anything versus the people who already have good gear and tons of backup gear and platinum to replenish anything they might lose

[Efwan]

Colgate is actually right. You can't just "test" something like this. It's all or nothing.

[iruinedyourday]

not sure p99 could handle Rallos Zek.

[Colgate]

personally i would love an item loot server

but most people wouldn't play it

[Lime]

regardless of no drop tags or not, it would shit on any new players starting up with hardly anything versus the people who already have good gear and tons of backup gear and platinum to replenish anything they might lose

New players with nothing risk nothing in item loot system. Those players with replenishing gear might end up replenishing other peoples stashes. Gear disparity evaporates when you know an enemy can kill you and those fungis, RBB's, Underfoot robes, diamond rings, start going into bags. Once you bag your resist gear then you start getting wrecked by spells to a much higher degree and you can no longer just zoneplug as roots start landing after debuffs.

Additionally even if you are Empire rich and have scrooge mcduck's vault of platinum leftover from Nihilum exploit days, nobody wants to lose a big ticket item like a CoF/Fungi/RBB to a rival guild.

This kind of loot system could actually be devastating to a guild like Empire and would definitely empower the non raider pvp crowd if no drop was removed and item loot added. Raiding for pixels is alot less lucrative when you cant use them to grief people with less gear and instead have to bag them or risk losing them. So it is understandable why you would be against this system. The idea of all that velious raid loot being lootable from pvp would probably be enough to make half of your members rage quit the server back to blue.

[silo32]

enabling item loot on an existing server is an incredibly bad idea, and i say this as someone who would be in one of the best positions to benefit from item loot

would love to loot colgates AON

turn on item loot

[Colgate]

i have over 20 kdr and die once every few months

why exactly would this hurt someone like me other than having fewer targets to kill because it just encourages hardly anyone to actually pvp

as a melee, i just wouldn't pvp unless surrounded by friends

adding item loot to a server like this is probably the best way to kill it

[FaithlessKR]

New players with nothing risk nothing in item loot system. Those players with replenishing gear might end up replenishing other peoples stashes. Gear disparity evaporates when you know an enemy can kill you and those fungis, RBB's, Underfoot robes, diamond rings, start going into bags. Once you bag your resist gear then you start getting wrecked by spells to a much higher degree and you can no longer just zoneplug as roots start landing after debuffs.

Additionally even if you are Empire rich and have scrooge mcduck's vault of platinum leftover from Nihilum exploit days, nobody wants to lose a big ticket item like a CoF/Fungi/RBB to a rival guild.

This kind of loot system could actually be devastating to a guild like Empire and would definitely empower the non raider pvp crowd if no drop was removed and item loot added. Raiding for pixels is alot less lucrative when you cant use them to grief people with less gear and instead have to bag them or risk losing them. So it is understandable why you would be against this system. The idea of all that velious raid loot being lootable from pvp would probably be enough to make half of your members rage quit the server back to blue.

Cloak of flames hasn't been a big ticket item for a long time limebro :/

[Ezalor]

if i stood to lose items as a melee i would rampantly plug, zoneline dance or do anything to avoid pvp unless it was 15v1

i would also main a naked caster and bind rush all day long

sounds really fun actually

[Efwan]

Cloak of flames hasn't been a big ticket item for a long time limebro :/

Lol still one of the top 4 highest priced items. Gtfoh

[Grimjaw]

There's a reason RZ ruleset was chosen when they merged all three servers together. Big mistake not adopting RZ ruleset. Is why population is struggling so badly. :l

our ruleset is already identical to rallos zek at the time of the merger. 4 lvl pvp range, no teams, coin loot ...

[Colgate]

Lol still one of the top 4 highest priced items. Gtfoh

i can think of a dozen items more valuable than a cloak of flames

[Sampson]

Item Loot Item loot common dudes! The people have spoken!

[Nirgon]

adding item loot to a server like this is probably the best way to kill it

people can just bag their shit really

dumb people forgetting to bag important items after a raid will suffer, well, the fate of dumb people

giving people another way to make gains besides riding/camping shit sux, pvping for items is awesome

keeps people logging in also, thus generating more pvp... and more farming to replace lost 7res all rings... and more people to pvp while farming.. more pvp means more money for consumables... more people to pk farming plat for consumables.. u get da picture

people with cure shields will have to risk them in inventory, same with people who have AoN's in inventory.. manastones.. you name it

goog cycle of pvp, worked on RZ

Rogean won't do it but Haynar should put it on here anyway

[daasgoot]

my guess is pop would instantly cut in half and a bunch of threads in trade forum would pop up with people wanting to xfer red plat for blue plat.

[Recycled Children]

If drop and spawn rates were higher and crafting wasn't a joke I'd be all for item loot.

[Syft-X]

because i have a lot less to lose by having tons of great no drop gear versus the average player that doesn't have nearly as much top tier no drop armor

Yea I'm sure that noob is really gonna miss his +7 MR bracer more than you miss your Cloak of flames

[Colgate]

i don't have a cloak of flames

i got better shit than that

[jibekn]

fuck item loot

get killed in pvp get banned off the server

[LostCause]

might aswell just allow players to hand in books to PoD so you can turn name blue.

[BardPop]

Item loot failed on every existing emulated PvP server that was brought up before this one, and by failed I mean low population. If you really want item loot though I don't see why it has to be classic, make a server and make it custom enough so that people can play on it with a low population and still enjoy themselves.

[Samsung]

might aswell just allow players to hand in books to PoD so you can turn name blue.

Lol good one

[Sampson]

such pusses. item loot god damnit item loot! *cries* people are just scared to lose their precious. BAG IT OR LOSE IT