Are there any ways/things we can do so the admins know we are not boxing?

[Jobitussin]

In my household with my girl and her family there is 4 of us that play on p99 and soon I will be in need of one more client limit per IP exemption for her dad. I've talked to a few people in-game and I've read enough on the forums to know there is ZERO tolerance for boxing. I don't intend or have even the slightest want/need to box. I'm also too much of an elitest with video games to cheat. Been that way since I was a kid. Only two games I ever cheated on were bloodrayne and nightmare creatures 1. (Ok now to the point of this.)

What I want to know is if we are all playing together. ie. grouping/farming/grinding/trading/transferring, is there any methods or precautions we can take to prove we are not boxing? I can supply more information then you requested if needed but will not go to a too personal point.

But yeah, I just want to know basic stuff we can do so that we will never be mistook for boxing so none of us ever have to worry about being banned. Everyone in the house is asking me questions about this that I can't personally answer so I turned to posting this thread.

Any input is appreciated and thanks once again for reading.

[quido]

stream yourself playing the game 24/7

[azeth]

fraps & timestamp simultaneous circle strafing once an hour

[Jobitussin]

Streaming the game 24/7 sounds kind of extensive and I don't have a streaming program on my comp as of now but I will get us all one if that is what will be needed.

As far as what you said, Azeth, exactly what are "fraps" and "simultaneous circle strafing"?

[quido]

It sounds like you're going to have serious problems here.

[Jobitussin]

From what I've read and talked about too. And I will state, i'm not arguing or criticizing any rules here. If there is a complete zero tolerance then we should have way to prove we aren't. I'm not saying the admins ever misjudged, but with my anxiety and paranoia levels I'm expecting the worst case of us getting mistaken and just want a method, if there is any, to prove my household isn't cheating. Just a thought but it could be a good one if it's do-able. XD Now I have to drink a little bit of whiskey then head back into the world of EQ. XD

[joppykid]

It sounds like you're going to have serious problems here.

lol

[Nisse]

Streaming the game 24/7 sounds kind of extensive and I don't have a streaming program on my comp as of now but I will get us all one if that is what will be needed.

As far as what you said, Azeth, exactly what are "fraps" and "simultaneous circle strafing"?

Don't strafe, I got corrected on it, you have to run like a " real person"

[Jobitussin]

Don't strafe, I got corrected on it, you have to run like a " real person"

Ok so how would I time stamp it? Does a normal screenshot save with a time stamp?

[Nisse]

Ok so how would I time stamp it? Does a normal screenshot save with a time stamp?

I was mostly kidding, but if they suspect you are 2 boxxing they will come test you, making you run in opposing circles etc.

[Jobitussin]

It sounds like you're going to have serious problems here.

Yea that's more or less why I'm trying to find a way to prove we won't box. Stoked to have classic EQ to play but if this is going to halt us or make us continously have to restart or quit it's going to be kind of crappy. really don't want to pay for retail to be able to join the progression servers and even the progression servers are wayy further progressed then p99 so it won't even be as fun lol

[Nuggie]

If your group is constantly moving around and very active you wont have any problems. If your group is very lethargic then you will have problems. find a way to keep it lively. do crawls instead of camps. permafrost, paw, lost temple of cazic thule are very good places to crawl. challenging, fun, and usually empty..

[utenan]

I've had an IP exemption with my brother since the week the server opened - we've never had a gm come and test us. As long as you got 4 people at 4 computers I think you'll be fine. You won't just be banned one day - worst case scenario they come test you and you pass

[Ele]

Protip: Do not AE kite on your bard while the 3 of them sit afk off to the side.

[Sirken]

In my household with my girl and her family there is 4 of us that play on p99 and soon I will be in need of one more client limit per IP exemption for her dad. I've talked to a few people in-game and I've read enough on the forums to know there is ZERO tolerance for boxing. I don't intend or have even the slightest want/need to box. I'm also too much of an elitest with video games to cheat. Been that way since I was a kid. Only two games I ever cheated on were bloodrayne and nightmare creatures 1. (Ok now to the point of this.)

What I want to know is if we are all playing together. ie. grouping/farming/grinding/trading/transferring, is there any methods or precautions we can take to prove we are not boxing? I can supply more information then you requested if needed but will not go to a too personal point.

But yeah, I just want to know basic stuff we can do so that we will never be mistook for boxing so none of us ever have to worry about being banned. Everyone in the house is asking me questions about this that I can't personally answer so I turned to posting this thread.

Any input is appreciated and thanks once again for reading.

you'll be fine as long as you dont box. if your fam/pals are going to afk for a long period of time, i would suggest they log out, and not have you PLing their afk toons all afternoon.

most of the posts you'll see here are from people that are just upset about getting caught boxing. if you do feel youve been treated unfairly please go to the petition/exploit forum and make a thread.

<3
Sirken

[Danth]

But yeah, I just want to know basic stuff we can do so that we will never be mistook for boxing so none of us ever have to worry about being banned.

As with a few other folks, my wife and I have been with P1999 since it opened and never ran afoul of the staff. We alter our normal mode of gameplay only in a few ways.

A) Don't log in one of their characters to do a transfer for you, or to port you, or anything else. One character, one person--ALL the time, no exceptions. It would be best if you don't even know their login info.

B)The more active everyone is, the better. Boxers often favor simple classes, or simple roles for complex classes. The stereotypical Warrior/Cleric duo where the Cleric only stands up to heal then sits back down looks an awful lot like boxing even when it isn't. An Enchanter who doesn't do much except rebuff clarity every half hour might look suspicious. A bad pull where that same inactive Enchanter suddenly turns into crowd control Jesus--while everyone else simultaneously just stands around doing nothing--looks really suspicious.

C) A minor annoyance, but the wife never uses auto-follow.

D) If someone's AFK in a bad spot and a train or something bad happens, let 'em die. Don't run over to their PC and move 'em to safety. Again--one player, one character, ALL the time.

E) This one's irrelevant to the GM's, but if you don't want the stupider members of the community at large pestering you, don't give any of your characters similar names. On occasion some idiots have accused my wife and I of boxing for no better reason than our original characters share same surnames. None of our other characters have similar names and--shock!--these same self-appointed internet sleuths have never said a word to us when we're on those other characters. Morons play P1999 too, and unfortunately they can type out a /petition just as readily as someone who has an IQ higher than that of a grapefruit.

Finally, the staff recommends that if someone's going to be AFK for awhile, it's best for him to log out, particularly if the group's gaining experience. The staff maintains that if you don't box you won't get banned for it; while I can only speak for myself, as I said I've had no trouble with staff in some five and a half years on here.

Danth

[Swish]

Literally just make sure everyone is disciplined enough to camp out to character select if they need to get up from the computer - even for 1 minute.

Too many "but I was only gone for a minute I swear" stories around.

[Ravager]

Boxing's bad, m'kay.

[webrunner5]

Protip: Do not AE kite on your bard while the 3 of them sit afk off to the side.

Lol, well stated. Yeah the long AFK thingy is a Red Flag for sure. Or People on Follow is not a safe thing to do a lot either. :D

[nilzark]

I'm also too much of an elitest with video games to cheat. Been that way since I was a kid. Only two games I ever cheated on ...

Seems legit.

[JayN]

I hear some staff will just ban you and then strip your account then RMT off the proceeds.
like this used to happen a lot in the past.... not sure if its still happening. My best advice is to stay poor and a noob

[Hauser]

Best way to stay unbanned is to donate. GL dodging drunken gm's

[Lisset]

crowd control Jesus

I may just make that my sig. :):D

[Swish]

I hear some staff will just ban you and then strip your account then RMT off the proceeds.
like this used to happen a lot in the past.... not sure if its still happening. My best advice is to stay poor and a noob

That's a wild rumor JayN... we know about Amelinda's $20 Paypal incident but nobody else got caught at it, did they? Maybe Sundawg really did give out epics on red, and Derubael was at it, but some evidence would be great before we go down this road.

RMTception could go a long way if these rumors start.

[applesauce25r624]

cyber with /say and lots of emotes

[Seggen]

I'm a bit worried about this myself. My brother and I just started playing yesterday and we have very similar names. We plan to play together a lot but rarely (if ever) from the same house.

[Trowadeath]

and not have you PLing their afk toons all afternoon


So.. PLing confirmed bannable?

[Dirtnap]

I haven't read the thread, but my twin brother and I have played since launch and have never been tested for boxing. We've even had my bard autofollow his Monk with healing song for up to an hour with no issues.

Just make sure when a GM comes knocking, that everyone is ready to go.

[Brocode]

So.. PLing confirmed bannable?

its ok to PL, just not box PL.

[Swish]

I haven't read the thread, but my twin brother and I have played since launch and have never been tested for boxing. We've even had my bard autofollow his Monk with healing song for up to an hour with no issues.

Just make sure when a GM comes knocking, that everyone is ready to go.

When are we gonna allow two-boxing?

Sounds like you'll be shouting for someone to quickly come in from the next room and sit to do the test.

Why would your bard autofollow his monk for an hour?

[imajester]

I haven't read the thread, but my twin brother and I have played since launch and have never been tested for boxing. We've even had my bard autofollow his Monk with healing song for up to an hour with no issues.

Just make sure when a GM comes knocking, that everyone is ready to go.

While not the definition of boxing it does violate the spirit what the rules are trying to not allow.

[Trowadeath]

its ok to PL, just not box PL.

What does that even mean? I think it's silly to say PLing is okay unless you happen to live together.

[cyrusdark]

Had a cousin who's seven year old niece was playing with him at an IP Exempt household. Ended up suspended and never managed to get a reversal. He quit - it was a full one month suspension.

The test is actually difficult - mine have lasted minutes on end where the gm moved all around while requiring us to do opposite circles. The downside is he had run speed, I didn't, and it was almost impossible to keep up let alone run circles. We were told we did 'poorly' but passed. I told him he should have unencumbered me and gave me run speed for a short duration for the test - his lack of insight or caring was astounding.

One of my side accounts, as well as my wife's, were suspended for one month on the first failed 'test' recently. It was power-leveling a new player/friend. I would walk in, buff on my machine, then go back to cooking/watching House of Cards in the living room till my audio trigger told me it was time. By the time she called me in saying some guy showed up, the '30 seconds to begin' had already ran out and the accounts were kicked.

I understand that some poeple attempt to get away with it. I understand that more leniency would let some of the abusers go, but the methodology and strict adherance means you can't risk going AFK for any length of time, regardless. Dont let kids play that don't have the ability to move in a specific direction around a moving target that adjusts randomly. Camp if you're afk, even if its just a smoke break, and so forth.

For every box they catch, there are those such as myself who get suspended unreasonably. I don't blame the GMs. They have a methodology that works, but also manages to screw some innocent people, and we have no way to argue it. Someone in the restroom is not an excuse. Cooking while afk and throwing a Heroic Bond as necessary is no excuse. You have to be hyper-vigilant and take measures to ensure, at any moment, all players are ready to perform circus-level acts within 30 seconds of instructions. Otherwise, be prepared for a 30-Day or longer suspension, ban, IP Exemption removal or more.

If it was a legitimate case, I'd tell ya. They already acted as if it was, and pleading innocence does no one any good. Be ready, take precautionary measures, and hope your tests always go well. No matter how many you win, you're going to lose that one time you aren't perfectly ready.

[mgellan]

The advice I got from Eunomia was not to be AFK for any reason anytime on any of the toons in case the Staff decides to test you - I make my kids log off to go to the can or when they tab out to do something else when we play. If they decide to make you run in circles claiming one person is AFK doesn't cut it.

Regards,
Mg

[BulletCatcher]

The tests administered by GM's... do they only get tested when the IPs are the same? I have some low level friends I was planning on PLing soon and I want to avoid any extra attention. My friends IPs are different than mine. Is there still concern for this? I mean someone could set up a VPN or SSL tunnel to mask obscure the IP addresses.

[PDX0621]

Cyrusdark - While your story doesn't sound as egregious as others, you weren't entirely "innocent" either. You PL'ing your friend while AFK "cooking" looks no different than playing two characters at once, you know what I mean? If you want to level with or PL your friend, be there, and play the character, or do your buffing/whatnot, and camp out. It's not that hard. If you already knew the rules and what they were looking for and how they would test you on the test you "passed poorly", why would you continue doing it and risk getting suspended, as you did?

[Glenzig]

Cyrusdark - While your story doesn't sound as egregious as others, you weren't entirely "innocent" either. You PL'ing your friend while AFK "cooking" looks no different than playing two characters at once, you know what I mean? If you want to level with or PL your friend, be there, and play the character, or do your buffing/whatnot, and camp out. It's not that hard. If you already knew the rules and what they were looking for and how they would test you on the test you "passed poorly", why would you continue doing it and risk getting suspended, as you did?

He thought to himself "Hey I actually got away with 2 boxing" and decided he always would.

[imajester]

This brings up an interesting question. I just got a friend (played back in 2000 with me on The Nameless) to join and he just started a necro. I have a Shammy I can power level him with. Is is ok to say sit in the EC tunnel and buff him when he texts my phone or calls out over skype or something? I haven't done it yet, and I may just level up a toon with him instead, but I should find out if it is ok to buff him and be afk. We are not in the same household and have different IPs. Mine will even be two or more different IPs if I take my laptop to work to afk buff him when there.

What is the policy on something like that?

[Ele]

I have some low level friends I was planning on PLing soon and I want to avoid any extra attention.

Tell them to keep moving around and not just sit in the same corner while they gain exp. Have them talk in /say occasionally instead of /group.

Example, if all a cleric ever does is stand, ch, sit, then buff every 45 minutes, that looks suspicious as hell. But if the cleric is actively participating in the group rooting mobs, stunning, spot heals, moving around, that demonstrates someone is actively playing that character.

If 3 people sit off to the side afk, while the bard in the group kites a hundred mobs, that is going to look suspicious.

[soggygorilla]

guys seriously this game is close to 20 years old. that being said, the fact your so worked up about something dumb like boxing is supremely retarded. honestly to even find some one that even wants play the game is amazing, i can't believe banning people because of suspected boxing is even something that happens. Then to read that the gm might come by and ask me to run in circles if my group mate is afk while im soloing monsters, just blows my mind. well im moving on again, it took me about an hour of playing the game and about 5 minutes of trying to log my wife in to the game and get an ip error to never want to play again. it makes me said that daybreak games let this place continue the sham that it is.

[Dirtnap]

Sounds like you'll be shouting for someone to quickly come in from the next room and sit to do the test.

Why would your bard autofollow his monk for an hour?

Because his monk is twinked to the teeth, and I can play something else while my healing song keeps his health full. If we were to have a GM pop up I could alt tab or turn to my PC and respond to the GM.

While not the definition of boxing it does violate the spirit what the rules are trying to not allow.

How many people on this server play in the "spirit" of the rules? How about all the famous wizard joining groups and then AFKing 90% of the time? Same shit, different number of people.

[cyrusdark]

Cyrusdark - While your story doesn't sound as egregious as others, you weren't entirely "innocent" either. You PL'ing your friend while AFK "cooking" looks no different than playing two characters at once, you know what I mean? If you want to level with or PL your friend, be there, and play the character, or do your buffing/whatnot, and camp out. It's not that hard. If you already knew the rules and what they were looking for and how they would test you on the test you "passed poorly", why would you continue doing it and risk getting suspended, as you did?

You're absolutely right that they couldn't tell the difference. My innocence on this specific event, however, isn't even a question. In the actual instance I had a character suspension, I wasn't boxing in any way. A cleric can't do much for a level 10 - its not an active power level. You throw Naltron+HB on them and walk away. I didn't camp because I enjoyed comin on back, reading chat periodically, and talking back. If I was boxing, I'd freely admit it - I've already been punished as if it was the case. Its not like some extra action is going to happen - I'd probably get a few pats on the back for 'coming clean.' Unfortunately, it was a legitimate situation the actual time a suspension hit me. I didn't read a 'no afking at the derv camp' in the rules originally. I see my mistake now, but it hsd to be deduced.

Look, I get that GMs have to do what they do. It may have upset me, but I understand they can't tell the difference. It ain't no thang. What I'm hoping to do is warn others that the tests make it risky to afk, to let younger kids play that may not be able to pass, and so forth. When you get a family IP exemption, you have to be exceptionally cautious and vigilant about camping, not afking even for short durations, and so forth.

This isn't a pity-me post. Its a 'hide yo wife, hide yo kids' kind of warning to others. You might just walk back to a 30-Day suspension or worse. I'm certain the GMs are aware that with strict measures, you will occasionally get your conclusion wrong. They continue it as a 'greater good' situation and I can't fault that. Just, be careful. I didn't know the extent at which I would need to camp, etc., originally. I just trying to relay some of what I've learned so others don't have an unfortunate experience.

[Champion_Standing]

Wife and I played together for many hours and never had an encounter with a gm. But my friend and his wife have been "tested" and passed but were still told by the gm that he/she still believed they were boxing but didn't do anything to their accounts.

[Swish]

Because his monk is twinked to the teeth, and I can play something else while my healing song keeps his health full. If we were to have a GM pop up I could alt tab or turn to my PC and respond to the GM.

Is that an admission to boxing? Sounds like one.

[Dirtnap]

Is that an admission to boxing? Sounds like one.

For fucks sake Swish, you've sucked my cock on this forum for years. You know my brother on the forum. Its never been a secret that I have a twin brother.

To refresh your memory, here is a link to his forum account. http://www.project1999.com/forums/member.php?u=7298

Just because I want them to allow boxing, doesn't mean I'm doing it now. I've even admitted that I have a pair of accounts I PLAN to box on to see how long it takes to get caught. I got the exemption like a year ago, and probably won't ever actually do it, because I still haven't gotten around to it.

WTS Anime Weeaboo names! :cool:

EDIT: And I love how quick you are to respond to me every time I post anything. I've never had such a loyal fan. Love you too.

[Archie]

It'd be easier to get an apartment and move out.

[Swish]

For fucks sake Swish, you've sucked my cock on this forum for years. You know my brother on the forum. Its never been a secret that I have a twin brother.

To refresh your memory, here is a link to his forum account. http://www.project1999.com/forums/member.php?u=7298
etc
etc.

Honestly in all my time on the forums I haven't come across a bigger scumbag and that makes you hard to forget ;) The fact that someone would reserve a bunch of names with no intention to use them (just sell them on) is almost as bad as running around with a bard on follow healing you.

I didn't remember you had a twin brother though, convenient for sure. I'd say the same if I wanted to box. I never remember seeing him post and sounds like a web of lies forming to keep your exemption.

What's the name of the monk and shaman? Lets make this quick and easy. Epicemu awaits.

[drktmplr12]

Its a 'hide yo wife, hide yo kids' kind of warning

lol'd

[BulletCatcher]

guys seriously this game is close to 20 years old. that being said, the fact your so worked up about something dumb like boxing is supremely retarded. honestly to even find some .... blah blah blah.


oh wow... you seem easily offended..You gotta apply for an IP exemption to get your wife online at the same time you want to be online. There is nothing wrong with the GMs needing to adapt and develop ways to maintain good play styles. This is a fan based server. countless time and effort have been put in by people who get no tangible reward from their tireless work. There is a lot of appreciation owed to these super fan devs. "Thanks for busting your hump(s) to make EQ a reality, also thank you for keeping up these great community conducive rule sets (no boxing, no griefing, etc.)"

You're so upset reading about people's concerns over dual boxing, yet you barely gave an effort to play on the server, and that blows your mind? You would have known about the IP problems had you read the documentation. But you didn't read the instructions.

http://www.project1999.com/forums/announcement.php?f=25

You had an unrealistic expectation. and you let your frustration get the best of you. I would encourage you to stick around. P99 is great. Apply for that IP exemption and get your wife in Norrath with you.

[PDX0621]

This isn't a pity-me post. Its a 'hide yo wife, hide yo kids' kind of warning to others. You might just walk back to a 30-Day suspension or worse. I'm certain the GMs are aware that with strict measures, you will occasionally get your conclusion wrong. They continue it as a 'greater good' situation and I can't fault that. Just, be careful. I didn't know the extent at which I would need to camp, etc., originally. I just trying to relay some of what I've learned so others don't have an unfortunate experience.

If you read the many stories and examples from people on the dozens of virtually same threads about this same topic, you'll note that the VAST majority of people who play together with their friends, PL their friends, play in the same house, etc, do so with no problems whatsoever. They are doing what they legitimately claim to be doing. If a GM expects them of violating rules, they run a test. The VAST majority of them are able to flawlessly pass, because they were legitimately not boxing.

There's no 'hide yo wife, hide yo kids' kind of warning necessary. If you want to play with someone, BE THERE. Don't try and skirt the rules, don't be shady, don't do things that would lead others or the GM's to think you're boxing. If you want to "cook" or "watch TV" or otherwise "leave the room" while you are ACTUALLY THERE, simply camp out.

You may not agree with the rules, or think you're following them, but your actions admittedly warrant potential suspicion, especially considering you claimed to have been tested for similar actions in the past.

TLDR - BE THERE, ACTUALLY PLAY, STOP LEAVING AND DOING OTHER STUFF. IF YOU MUST, CAMP OUT. DON'T BE SHADY.

[Dirtnap]

Honestly in all my time on the forums I haven't come across a bigger scumbag and that makes you hard to forget ;) The fact that someone would reserve a bunch of names with no intention to use them (just sell them on) is almost as bad as running around with a bard on follow healing you.

I didn't remember you had a twin brother though, convenient for sure. I'd say the same if I wanted to box. I never remember seeing him post and sounds like a web of lies forming to keep your exemption.

What's the name of the monk and shaman? Lets make this quick and easy. Epicemu awaits.

Totally convenient since he's been playing on this server since day one like I have. Its just so unbelievable that a pair of fat neckbearded brothers could play on a 15 year old elf simulator together!

Not all of us are forumquesters like you are. I've been on this server longer than you, and have like 1/50th the posts you do.

Do you want a list of all of our characters? We both have full accounts of random alts and shit.

Not to mention the accounts I have full of names. WTS Weeaboo Character Names!

[jarshale]

guys seriously this game is close to 20 years old. that being said, the fact your so worked up about something dumb like boxing is supremely retarded. honestly to even find some one that even wants play the game is amazing, i can't believe banning people because of suspected boxing is even something that happens. Then to read that the gm might come by and ask me to run in circles if my group mate is afk while im soloing monsters, just blows my mind. well im moving on again, it took me about an hour of playing the game and about 5 minutes of trying to log my wife in to the game and get an ip error to never want to play again. it makes me said that daybreak games let this place continue the sham that it is.

lol'd

[Champion_Standing]

If you read the many stories and examples from people on the dozens of virtually same threads about this same topic, you'll note that the VAST majority of people who play together with their friends, PL their friends, play in the same house, etc, do so with no problems whatsoever. They are doing what they legitimately claim to be doing. If a GM expects them of violating rules, they run a test. The VAST majority of them are able to flawlessly pass, because they were legitimately not boxing.

There's no 'hide yo wife, hide yo kids' kind of warning necessary. If you want to play with someone, BE THERE. Don't try and skirt the rules, don't be shady, don't do things that would lead others or the GM's to think you're boxing. If you want to "cook" or "watch TV" or otherwise "leave the room" while you are ACTUALLY THERE, simply camp out.

You may not agree with the rules, or think you're following them, but your actions admittedly warrant potential suspicion, especially considering you claimed to have been tested for similar actions in the past.

TLDR - BE THERE, ACTUALLY PLAY, STOP LEAVING AND DOING OTHER STUFF. IF YOU MUST, CAMP OUT. DON'T BE SHADY.

Would rather have some boxers get away with it than have legit players actually fearful and altering their play style just to avoid being suspected of boxing. Just sayin

[BulletCatcher]

Its a custom private server with specific rules that you have to follow. How is your private server coming along? So many people looking a gift horse in the mouth. Just saying...

[Champion_Standing]

Its a custom private server with specific rules that you have to follow. How is your private server coming along? So many people looking a gift horse in the mouth. Just saying...

Brilliant, I wonder how many times that has been said in this thread alone. l2notshitpost.

[BulletCatcher]

A turd is still a turd no matter how many times you call it a turd.

[Supaskillz]

Would rather have some boxers get away with it than have legit players actually fearful and altering their play style just to avoid being suspected of boxing. Just sayin

The point is if you are not boxing, you have nothing to fear. That is all the OP needs to know. I have played with and met dozens of couples or roomates who play together regularly with no problems.

If there is suspicious behavior where it appears one players is doing almost nothing, the GM may test you to be sure you did not request an IP exemption to cheat the server rules. That is no big deal if you are not boxing, it will simply take 5 minutes of your time. Shit even if one of you is afk for a couple of minutes, that is not going to be a problem.

If you all want to argue over the merits of such a server rule, then thats a different matter, but I for one am glad boxing is not allowed so that I can find groups and socialize and have it feel more like it did in 1999/2000.

[Champion_Standing]

The point is if you are not boxing, you have nothing to fear. That is all the OP needs to know. I have played with and met dozens of couples or roomates who play together regularly with no problems.

If there is suspicious behavior where it appears one players is doing almost nothing, the GM may test you to be sure you did not request an IP exemption to cheat the server rules. That is no big deal if you are not boxing, it will simply take 5 minutes of your time. Shit even if one of you is afk for a couple of minutes, that is not going to be a problem.

If you all want to argue over the merits of such a server rule, then thats a different matter, but I for one am glad boxing is not allowed so that I can find groups and socialize and have it feel more like it did in 1999/2000.

I know this, and like I said I've put in many hours on P99 with my wife and we never even had an issue. But the idea that you can't use auto follow or go AFK for 10 minutes or always be sitting when you aren't healing as a cleric is absurd.

I dunno how the enforcement is right now because I haven't played much this year really but if people are honestly this afraid to play EQ normally because a GM will pop up and start testing them then I would say its a little heavy handed and would rather see a lighter approach to it even if it meant some boxers getting away with it. I'm not suggesting that boxing should be allowed at all.

But it is just like...my opinion man.

[Swish]

Do you want a list of all of our characters? We both have full accounts of random alts and shit.



Just the monk and shaman would be enough, I notice your reluctance to post them.

I know this, and like I said I've put in many hours on P99 with my wife and we never even had an issue. But the idea that you can't use auto follow or go AFK for 10 minutes or always be sitting when you aren't healing as a cleric is absurd.

I dunno how the enforcement is right now because I haven't played much this year really but if people are honestly this afraid to play EQ normally because a GM will pop up and start testing them then I would say its a little heavy handed and would rather see a lighter approach to it even if it meant some boxers getting away with it. I'm not suggesting that boxing should be allowed at all.

But it is just like...my opinion man.

If one of you needs to get up just camp out for a minute, I wouldn't risk it... heavy handed for sure but without it we'd have all kinds slipping the net.

[PDX0621]

Would rather have some boxers get away with it than have legit players actually fearful and altering their play style just to avoid being suspected of boxing. Just sayin

Are you really so lazy that you cant simply camp out when you're going to be AFK for a while? Is it that hard? If you think the GM's are being too heavy handed, and people to paranoid, why give them more ammunition to suspect you of being a dirty whistle. C'mon now! How much "altering" of your playstyle is it to ask that you be presence and accountable when and where you're supposed to be? People keep trying to push the edge more and more, seeing what they can get away with. That's the problem. If you need more clarification of what I mean, let me know.

[Champion_Standing]

Are you really so lazy that you cant simply camp out when you're going to be AFK for a while? Is it that hard? If you think the GM's are being too heavy handed, and people to paranoid, why give them more ammunition to suspect you of being a dirty whistle. C'mon now! How much "altering" of your playstyle is it to ask that you be presence and accountable when and where you're supposed to be? People keep trying to push the edge more and more, seeing what they can get away with. That's the problem. If you need more clarification of what I mean, let me know.

You're crazy man.

[Tameth]

Play red. Lite boxes up to five toons at a time.

But seriously... Don't box and make sure your five year old is good at everquest before getting that IP exemption. :-D

[Clark]

If your group is constantly moving around and very active you wont have any problems. If your group is very lethargic then you will have problems. find a way to keep it lively. do crawls instead of camps. permafrost, paw, lost temple of cazic thule are very good places to crawl. challenging, fun, and usually empty..

[Nisse]

guys seriously this game is close to 20 years old. that being said, the fact your so worked up about something dumb like boxing is supremely retarded. honestly to even find some one that even wants play the game is amazing, i can't believe banning people because of suspected boxing is even something that happens. Then to read that the gm might come by and ask me to run in circles if my group mate is afk while im soloing monsters, just blows my mind. well im moving on again, it took me about an hour of playing the game and about 5 minutes of trying to log my wife in to the game and get an ip error to never want to play again. it makes me said that daybreak games let this place continue the sham that it is.

Buh bye now.

[PDX0621]

guys seriously this game is close to 20 years old. that being said, the fact your so worked up about something dumb like boxing is supremely retarded. honestly to even find some one that even wants play the game is amazing, i can't believe banning people because of suspected boxing is even something that happens. Then to read that the gm might come by and ask me to run in circles if my group mate is afk while im soloing monsters, just blows my mind. well im moving on again, it took me about an hour of playing the game and about 5 minutes of trying to log my wife in to the game and get an ip error to never want to play again. it makes me said that daybreak games let this place continue the sham that it is.

http://i.imgur.com/9XmX4s9.gif

[Tann]

guys seriously this game is close to 20 years old. that being said, the fact your so worked up about something dumb like boxing is supremely retarded. honestly to even find some one that even wants play the game is amazing, i can't believe banning people because of suspected boxing is even something that happens. Then to read that the gm might come by and ask me to run in circles if my group mate is afk while im soloing monsters, just blows my mind. well im moving on again, it took me about an hour of playing the game and about 5 minutes of trying to log my wife in to the game and get an ip error to never want to play again. it makes me said that daybreak games let this place continue the sham that it is.

http://i.imgur.com/iBTX4RU.jpg

[Dirtnap]

Just the monk and shaman would be enough, I notice your reluctance to post them.



If one of you needs to get up just camp out for a minute, I wouldn't risk it... heavy handed for sure but without it we'd have all kinds slipping the net.

My characters are:
Pinluen Tunemaster (Bard)
Bear (Cleric)
Dirtnap (Ranger)
Axel (Enchanter)
Barrett (Druid)
Bayedril (Paladin)
Moose (Mage)
Baobari (Necro)

Davardo's are:
Dave (Shaman)
Davardo (Monk)
Davud (Druid)
Daedin (Bard)
Davy (Shadow Knight)

He has more but I don't remember the names, as its not my account. As you can see, his naming convention usually starts with "Dav" being that his name is Dave. Mine tend to start with B because my name is Barrett. Pinluen was my mains name on live.

[myriverse]

guys seriously this game is close to 20 years old. that being said, the fact your so worked up about something dumb like boxing is supremely retarded. honestly to even find some one that even wants play the game is amazing, i can't believe banning people because of suspected boxing is even something that happens. Then to read that the gm might come by and ask me to run in circles if my group mate is afk while im soloing monsters, just blows my mind. well im moving on again, it took me about an hour of playing the game and about 5 minutes of trying to log my wife in to the game and get an ip error to never want to play again. it makes me said that daybreak games let this place continue the sham that it is.
Yay! Boxing rule working as intended.

[squarez]

God damn I am so glad I still lurk here, these utterly insane drama posts about nothing at all are comedy gold. BTW when did they start installing P99 in mental institutions?

[Swish]

If you like boxing, try PEQ or perhaps Daybreak's progression server.

[Crawdad]

Wow. All these newbies joining due to Daybreak's seal of approval is pretty cool, but you guys are way too paranoid. Y'all are way over thinking it.

1) Don't box
2) If you have to go AFK for more than ~20mins (and you're duoing/trioing), camp out.
3) On the off chance a GM does pop up, all they're going to do is make you run in circles, or maybe temporarily ban you if you didn't get an IP exemption.

Don't be a jerk to other people and you'll generally have no problem. The forumquesting is real, but in-game most people don't care enough. I honestly have a hard time believing this many people have multiple people in a household all playing together...

If you don't like the rules, we don't want you here. This is a Classic server, and thankfully we have an abundance of classholes who work to keep it that way (<3 you guys).

[entruil]

There is nothing wrong with the GMs needing to adapt and develop ways to maintain good play styles. This is a fan based server.

yea... something doesnt sound right here... is it election time?

not a personal attack and i understand what it means... just makes me want to herd protestors.... bye

[Konu]

yea... something doesnt sound right here... is it election time?

not a personal attack and i understand what it means... just makes me want to herd protestors.... bye

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/masonry/000/427/123/d71.jpg

[azeth]

Then to read that the gm might come by and ask me to run in circles if my group mate is afk while im soloing monsters, just blows my mind. well im moving on again, it took me about an hour of playing the game and about 5 minutes of trying to log my wife in to the game and get an ip error to never want to play again. it makes me said that daybreak games let this place continue the sham that it is.

boy I am just SO happy, almost ecstatic that you decided to move on.

how disruptive it would be to your FREE classic-EQ experience to run in a circle for 5 seconds.

[Champion_Standing]

Wow. All these newbies joining due to Daybreak's seal of approval is pretty cool, but you guys are way too paranoid. Y'all are way over thinking it.

1) Don't box
2) If you have to go AFK for more than ~20mins (and you're duoing/trioing), camp out.
3) On the off chance a GM does pop up, all they're going to do is make you run in circles, or maybe temporarily ban you if you didn't get an IP exemption.

Don't be a jerk to other people and you'll generally have no problem. The forumquesting is real, but in-game most people don't care enough. I honestly have a hard time believing this many people have multiple people in a household all playing together...

If you don't like the rules, we don't want you here. This is a Classic server, and thankfully we have an abundance of classholes who work to keep it that way (<3 you guys).

It's funny that you bring up classic because the 2 boxing ban is actually one of the least classic features of this server.

But I better stop taking about boxing this is turning into a luclin style thread.

[Champion_Standing]

BTW guys how about that bazaar

[Konu]

BTW guys how about that bazaar

https://33.media.tumblr.com/5da4aa94e6e3aa876d2c212457be0e54/tumblr_nlzk1nykRD1tl5fwyo1_400.gif

[Silinius]

Pro-tip (just in case no one else mentioned because I didn't read the entire thread):

Make sure all your computers have different computer names. I ran into an issue where my computer name (the ID assigned in Windows) was the same on my wife's computer name. It does throw off bells and whistles when you have two accounts logging in from the same "computer name" and IP address. Just make sure you check that out and you'll be good. Or, don't and CS staff will come check you out, watch your group while invis and then make you change it... if you're cool, they will turn you into a Unicorn for like 4 hours.

[nilzark]

The tests administered by GM's... do they only get tested when the IPs are the same? I have some low level friends I was planning on PLing soon and I want to avoid any extra attention. My friends IPs are different than mine. Is there still concern for this? I mean someone could set up a VPN or SSL tunnel to mask obscure the IP addresses.

Not suspicious.

[Swish]

A VPN isn't going to save you if you can't do figure 8s ;)