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vouss
05-01-2015, 03:49 AM
except me :p:o:confused:;):D:(:mad::rolleyes::cool::eek:

Casey VII
05-01-2015, 03:55 AM
8)

Exed
05-01-2015, 03:59 AM
feels good. but TBH gms do not regulate nearly enough to be banning people 3 months later.

Farzo
05-01-2015, 04:58 AM
I'm not banned and I've been slaying Azrael < PQ masters >.

oh that's right, don't have my empire tag yet...so safe from the PQ.

Drakaris
05-01-2015, 05:00 AM
I'm not banned and I've been slaying Azrael < PQ masters >.

oh that's right, don't have my empire tag yet...so safe from the PQ.

It's better that way imo, Empire don't have too much longer.

SHOWITME
05-01-2015, 08:36 AM
was desynced/ld 95% of kc pvp fight, not suspended at all

heartbrand
05-01-2015, 08:48 AM
Not suspended

Slathar
05-01-2015, 08:48 AM
when the administrators all have sigs with venril sathir holding "banhammers", referring to themselves as general and/or agent smith youre going to have problems. gms should not interact with the community and should be more or less invisible.

Sirken
05-01-2015, 08:58 AM
when the administrators all have sigs with venril sathir holding "banhammers", referring to themselves as general and/or agent smith youre going to have problems. gms should not interact with the community and should be more or less invisible.

i dunno if youve seen the movies or not, but it doesnt go too well for Agent Smith.

(i know, i know. should have used spoiler tags)

Agatha
05-01-2015, 09:01 AM
i dunno if youve seen the movies or not, but it doesnt go too well for Agent Smith.

(i know, i know. should have used spoiler tags)

wow if your going to go and spoil matrix for me i might aswell spoil GOT for u.




everyone dies. that one dude doesnt, she dies, also she dies, he doesnt die. all the dragons die. george RR martin ends up writing a book so differently from the new season and everyone thinks its terrible compared to the show.

/bow

heartbrand
05-01-2015, 09:57 AM
when the administrators all have sigs with venril sathir holding "banhammers", referring to themselves as general and/or agent smith youre going to have problems. gms should not interact with the community and should be more or less invisible.

Some truth to this. On EQ Live, staff were for the most part invisible, apart from Server GM's such as Lady Daegarmo, but even then, you would rarely if ever see them, and never engage with them in dialogue on a forum. Most offenses were met with polite tells from a Guide telling you to stop Action X or suffer a possible warning or future action. Only the most severe of all acts such as shouting the n word repeatedly, egregious intentional trains [not 2 frogloks that followed you to a 60 v 60 pvp by accident], cheating/hacking, were ever met with instant suspensions, and even then the staff would first port you somewhere and discuss with you why they were taking action against you if you were online.

Being banned was something that was hard to accomplish on EQ Live, the same with being suspended. Here, simply looking at someone the wrong way will result in a 7 to 14 day suspension.

The way staff and players interact with one another is just completely different than it was on live. Staff were not allowed to use internet slang, get involved in arguments with players, curse, etc. They were "above" the fray so to say. It is my personal opinion that staff should have little to no presence on the forums, should not be skyping players, IMing players, etc. They should observe actions in game, and act accordingly, notify the player as to why they are taking said action, and then have an appropriate review method in place.


While staff are volunteers, so were guides on EQ Live during the Petition Era, which remained in place throughout the classic timeline this server strives to emulate.

/duck

Slathar
05-01-2015, 10:02 AM
Some truth to this. On EQ Live, staff were for the most part invisible, apart from Server GM's such as Lady Daegarmo, but even then, you would rarely if ever see them, and never engage with them in dialogue on a forum. Most offenses were met with polite tells from a Guide telling you to stop Action X or suffer a possible warning or future action. Only the most severe of all acts such as shouting the n word repeatedly, egregious intentional trains [not 2 frogloks that followed you to a 60 v 60 pvp by accident], cheating/hacking, were ever met with instant suspensions, and even then the staff would first port you somewhere and discuss with you why they were taking action against you if you were online.

Being banned was something that was hard to accomplish on EQ Live, the same with being suspended. Here, simply looking at someone the wrong way will result in a 7 to 14 day suspension.

The way staff and players interact with one another is just completely different than it was on live. Staff were not allowed to use internet slang, get involved in arguments with players, curse, etc. They were "above" the fray so to say. It is my personal opinion that staff should have little to no presence on the forums, should not be skyping players, IMing players, etc. They should observe actions in game, and act accordingly, notify the player as to why they are taking said action, and then have an appropriate review method in place.


While staff are volunteers, so were guides on EQ Live during the Petition Era, which remained in place throughout the classic timeline this server strives to emulate.

/duck

couldnt agree more

Luniz
05-01-2015, 10:25 AM
Unfortunately staff here have to monitor 2 servers and are ignorant (for lack of a better word) to PvP nuances.

They promote their web channels and try to be popular figure heads rather than rule unbiased and just.

Unfortunately everything is inconsistent and is left to the gm's discretion, precedence means nothing and 75% of the back-channels are in Skype.

A picture book of screenshots and paint brush writing is enough to bait a suspension against someone in a suspend-first-explain-why-later (if the suspended is even lucky enough to get an explanation). There is no appeal process. If you express dissatisfaction your sentence is either increased or petition totally ignored.

At which point the petition forger has already won and the GM is beating his chest.

This is not directed at any person in particular.

Macdeth
05-01-2015, 11:00 AM
That "fraps" .5 FPS movie was glorious.

Vitality
05-01-2015, 11:04 AM
Have a nice weekend boyz. Sucks that red has become this way.

It's almost as bad as blues raid scene.

Fame
05-01-2015, 12:51 PM
these are dark days on red99, keep your heads down pals, they angry and lookin to do some hanging #baltimore

Veltira
05-01-2015, 03:03 PM
It's better that way imo, Empire don't have too much longer.

thank you, i had a rough day at work and needed a serious guffaw

Grimjaw
05-01-2015, 03:05 PM
http://i.imgur.com/4epUHbb.png

Veltira
05-01-2015, 03:05 PM
Unfortunately staff here have to monitor 2 servers and are ignorant (for lack of a better word) to PvP nuances.

They promote their web channels and try to be popular figure heads rather than rule unbiased and just.

Unfortunately everything is inconsistent and is left to the gm's discretion, precedence means nothing and 75% of the back-channels are in Skype.

A picture book of screenshots and paint brush writing is enough to bait a suspension against someone in a suspend-first-explain-why-later (if the suspended is even lucky enough to get an explanation). There is no appeal process. If you express dissatisfaction your sentence is either increased or petition totally ignored.

At which point the petition forger has already won and the GM is beating his chest.

This is not directed at any person in particular.

If i may interject here. I was banned for a week for something I did not do, appealed it; Sirken went through the logs and exonerated me. He then apologized, assumed fault, and unsuspended me. I know this is one situation in a plethora of petitions but sometimes they get it right. Sometimes Sirken gets it right rather.

Littlegyno 13.0
05-01-2015, 03:06 PM
thank you, i had a rough day at work and needed a serious guffaw

luv guffaws. luv chortles. luv snorts. luv snortling. luv cackling.

quido
05-01-2015, 03:07 PM
Did you used to get suspended on live for saying naughty words to people in private tells on a single occasion?

SamwiseRed
05-01-2015, 03:10 PM
Did you used to get suspended on live for saying naughty words to people in private tells on a single occasion?

Yes

Slathar
05-01-2015, 03:16 PM
If i may interject here. I was banned for a week for something I did not do, appealed it; Sirken went through the logs and exonerated me. He then apologized, assumed fault, and unsuspended me. I know this is one situation in a plethora of petitions but sometimes they get it right. Sometimes Sirken gets it right rather.

shut up idiot

Lev_Mer
05-01-2015, 03:23 PM
hold me slathar

billhollins
05-01-2015, 03:25 PM
shut up idiot

RL attack, reported

erog84
05-01-2015, 03:30 PM
If i may interject here. I was banned for a week for something I did not do, appealed it; Sirken went through the logs and exonerated me. He then apologized, assumed fault, and unsuspended me. I know this is one situation in a plethora of petitions but sometimes they get it right. Sometimes Sirken gets it right rather.

You are the exception. Most times when people post in the public threads about GM actions against them, they are completely ignored or get disciplined even further. You were even luckier that the person who petitioned you posted on the forums evidence showing that you were in the right. The amount of outrage and with the proof from the petitioner made it a perfect situation for you. Many others are not so lucky.

As someone else mentioned, it's not necessarily that we have bad staff, but the fact that it's understaffed and when you are rushing things, more mistakes are likely to happen. Then they don't have the time to go back to look into every claim people say because so many people are trying to cheat the system.

Littlegyno 13.0
05-01-2015, 03:37 PM
Got suspended one time my entire time on P99. Accidentally trained Azrael when they wiped up when they camped at the north wall. Understood the confusion and did my time in the penalty box with no complaints.

Sweetbaby Jesus
05-01-2015, 03:38 PM
Pras gyno! A most noble maggot!

Littlegyno 13.0
05-01-2015, 03:55 PM
Pras gyno! A most noble maggot!

me screaming allahu akbar was entirely coincidental to the training, i assure you.

Veltira
05-01-2015, 04:02 PM
You are the exception. Most times when people post in the public threads about GM actions against them, they are completely ignored or get disciplined even further. You were even luckier that the person who petitioned you posted on the forums evidence showing that you were in the right. The amount of outrage and with the proof from the petitioner made it a perfect situation for you. Many others are not so lucky.

As someone else mentioned, it's not necessarily that we have bad staff, but the fact that it's understaffed and when you are rushing things, more mistakes are likely to happen. Then they don't have the time to go back to look into every claim people say because so many people are trying to cheat the system.

this is probably the case, i just wanted to share my experience

Eslade
05-01-2015, 05:13 PM
Gyno should be banned for thirty days starting the day before velious launch for the lols