Kinda wish it was bigger than +/- 4 levels...

[Dulu]

Watching my 45 shaman healer have to fight the 46 "PK" Monk by himself, while the rest of us are 39-41 kinda sucks. The monk can't even kill him, but makes it so that we can't XP for fear of our healer getting snuck and us losing heals.

I know, this has probably been mentioned a million times.

Just frustrating watching a friend fight and being powerless to help. Fucks over our whole groups XP because we can't stomp out this one little nuisance.

[Uuruk]

I'm sure some blue guilds are recruiting .

[FAPhoenix]

/d 'cause maybe he wanted to kick some noob ass?

TT

[pharmakos]

yeah but if it was the old + / - 8 range, then you'd have a level 53 monk PKing you instead of a level 46 one.

[FAPhoenix]

Maybe 15% your level +1.

That makes the 60 range down to 50. Level 30 is +/- 6, level 10 is +/- 4.

TT

[FAPhoenix]

Some flaws in it though...60's fighting guys who can't fight back lol.

[fred schnarf]

you would just be crying about how a 46 monk rolled you at 39

same post would look identical literally

level up

[Bazia]

8 level range was infinitely better

[Jimmybones]

yeah but if it was the old + / - 8 range, then you'd have a level 53 monk PKing you instead of a level 46 one.

[Guido]

so make it +/- 6

[Exed]

4 is good. keep it 4

[Genedin]

One word.

Sunstrike.

Trust me. When you are lvl 52 and constantly getting one shotted by a wizard levitating above your group no one notices, you'll be begging for the 4 lvl range.

[HippoNipple]

One word.

Sunstrike.

Trust me. When you are lvl 52 and constantly getting one shotted by a wizard levitating above your group no one notices, you'll be begging for the 4 lvl range.

Agreed

Making a huge change to server rules that effects every player because some mid 30's group runs into a small problem one night in their exp group is a terrible suggestion.

It amazes me how tunnel visioned people are when suggesting changes to the server.

[Gustoo]

Yeah. Broader PVP range only makes pvp even more meaningless. A level 52 has a long way to go to get to level 60 and will be crapped on all of the way.

There is a reason that staff wised up and dropped the early pvp range.

[Guttzs]

TZ was 8 levels and 4 teams, do it.

[Crazycloud]

8 level range was infinitely better

I slightly agree with Kec here.

I think certain zones should be 8 level range. Chardok/KC comes into mind and when vely hits can add 8 levels to few more zones. This completely wipes out lvl 55 twink pvp inside raid zones.

[Bazia]

8 level range prevented the retarded plague of level 55 druids camping tons of zones and nameds for endgame gear/keys that should be contestable

Still remember level 54/55 toons camping VP key pieces that were out of range of pvp, can't even contest VP keys without your own lowbie toon that exists only to get around the pvp level range

Shit's dumb

[Genedin]

This is true too Bazia. I think level ranges should vary by zone.

[Glenzig]

We need a 0 level range, that's right, everyone has to be the same level in order to pvp. On top of that I would like to see restrictions on class versus class pvp. Wizards and druids for instance should not be allowed to pvp warriors or rogues. Monks and rogues should not be allowed to pvp clerics. We have to make sure that people are not losing in pvp because of any imposed imbalance. Thoughts?

[Tassador]

Yeah bring back +-8 to many people oor make it 16 levels and no cap for low leves

[Fame]

turn in the POD book for no lvl restrictions

[Fame]

cant believe no one else knows this lol :confused:

[kildone]

I'm down for no level restrictions. And item loots. Fact is 90%+ people won't play on a server like that.

[HalflingWarrior]

I'm down for no level restrictions. And item loots. Fact is 90%+ people won't play on a server like that.

Do you blame them? Again, there's not "character reputation," let alone honor, on this server.

Best in slot level 60s would run around killing level 10 players in rags and looting their shit. Sure stuff like that happened on Sullon, but on SZ you had the level 60 "Anti-PK" players who'd push in the poop of the griefers. You character reputation as a lowbie PKer actually had negative consequences.

On this server? You'd see people making Youtube videos bragging about it.

[Dulu]

yeah but if it was the old + / - 8 range, then you'd have a level 53 monk PKing you instead of a level 46 one.

Well, but the chance of meeting someone I'm incapable of fighting back against would be smaller.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not for LESS PvP, I just want to be able to participate in the PvP that is directly impacting me.

Being forced to sit as a spectator as some asshole basically shuts down my fun for the night is wack. It's the opposite of PvP.

[pharmakos]

the level 39s and 40s you were grouping with still wouldn't be able to attack a level 53 ganking you, though. i agree, i'm all for PVP on the PVP server, but you're going to have the same issue no matter what the level range is.

[Clark]

+/- 4 is classic!

[Tune]

actually it was 8 on tallon and vallon,

but these days the cry babies are so prevalent, better keep it 4

[Rushmore]

lol range is good what we need are more FFA zones

[Madbad]

Keep the range the same in regards to higher levels attacking lower, change it so that you can attack someone that is higher level but if you do you get flagged for no-range pvp until you zone or die.

That's my terrible idea for the day.

[Dulu]

Keep the range the same in regards to higher levels attacking lower, change it so that you can attack someone that is higher level but if you do you get flagged for no-range pvp until you zone or die.

That's my terrible idea for the day.

Meh, that leads to a decent idea...

+/- 4 for PvP
But, allow lower levels to attack higher levels up to +8.
If said lower levels attacks a higher level, he automatically flags himself for +/- 8 PvP.

This way, some 45 asshole attacks a level 40ish group who has one member who is 41.. now the entire group can decide to join in the PvP, but will flag themselves for a set time if they do.

I think it's actually a pretty good idea.

[Jimmybones]

Rogean had a dynamic flagging PvP system enabled during beta but it was all kinds of fucked up and buggy

[Dulu]

Rogean had a dynamic flagging PvP system enabled during beta but it was all kinds of fucked up and buggy

Interesting.

So I'll assume this means that it's not entirely out of the question for us to see something like this down the road, perhaps after Vel launches.. and they begin making tweaks to other things.

[Hitmonlee]

shut up