Red Server, Whats the point?

[Sampson]

Seriously, this server may as well be PvE. The PvP is whack as fuuh. You want to make the Red server gain popularity or be better? Make it so you can loot a peoples items. People don't always have coin on them and it would make moving up in the game a lot easier. I don't ever remember being PvP server to where you can only loot coin. I played on Rallos and you could loot items there. Bring back RZ rules and you will have a gang more people playing, I bet. And put maps on too :confused:

[Ele]

Lost me at maps.

[Visual]

Tallon
Vallon
Rallos
Sullon

Rallos was the only one with item loot

[Sampson]

Rallos or nothing.

[TrendyDru]

Lost me at maps.

Saying "lost me at..." Is meant to be toward the beginning of a post. Not dropping the last 2 prepositions. You missed 2 words. Oh shit. /thread broke.

[Sampson]

Saying "lost me at..." Is meant to be toward the beginning of a post. Not dropping the last 2 prepositions. You missed 2 words. Oh shit. /thread broke.

I was trying to find the words to counteract his comment, but you sir took the cake.

[Atmas]

Tallon
Vallon
Rallos
Sullon

Rallos was the only one with item loot

[Omnifiend]

Point of the server is to get loot with Empire, delevel, and grief lowbies in rags in dungeons, or level, get plat, twink out a rogue with epic and fungi, and grief lowbies in dungeons.

[Sampson]

sounds about right. btw i saw you earlier in commons. your the d.e. wiz, lol i tried chasing you down while you were at 37% health.

[Atmas]

The problem with the red server is it started with a crappy rule set requested by the people who just want to grief.

I think there would have been a lot more interest in the beginning if it had some teams (racial imo) and a lot of the mechanics it has now.

[Swish]

pvp teams server in the distant distance, talk of trying item loot at least to begin with... i think that's a good step for it.

there were no maps in this classic era. if you want those luxuries on a pvp server i think LoZ on the server select caters for that kind of thing.

A lot of red haters in this thread, who'd have thought?

[Madbad]

I often ask my self the same question but about Blue. On Red you level up, gear up, then kill your pals. On blue, you level up, gear up, then....sit in EC tunnel? Forumquest? I dunno, it always seems like there isn't a goal for me on blue.

[Grimjaw]

Tallon - Item Loot (and then coin only)
Vallon - Item Loot (and then coin only)
Rallos - Item Loot
Sullon - coin only

Tallon, Vallon, and Rallos all had item loot at one point

FTFY...

[Swish]

Thats basically it for blue, you get 60 then either subject yourself to the raid scene as it currently is, spend your days accumulating a bigger and bigger plat mountain or roll an alt and do it all over again with better gear.

Like it or hate it, red has a much more effective way of settling camp disputes.

[Larken]

pvp teams server in the distant distance, talk of trying item loot at least to begin with... i think that's a good step for it.

there were no maps in this classic era. if you want those luxuries on a pvp server i think LoZ on the server select caters for that kind of thing.

A lot of red haters in this thread, who'd have thought?

This.
Team PvP with one item loot and coin loot. No LnS rules, but let server population deal with their own sh1t. Laws against exploiters and cheaters must be strictly enforced though.

[Voland]

pvp teams server in the distant distance, talk of trying item loot at least to begin with... i think that's a good step for it.


*Distant distance*? I like this expression :)

[Colgate]

the endgame on blue is standing in EC tunnel or staring at a raid mob's spawn point for upwards of 16 hours

the endgame on red is killing people to settle disputes

[Ezalor]

sadly the endgame on red has problems too. one guild gets 100% of the raid mobs, since there's no variance and they bring 100 people per fight. you can pvp in theory, but nobody pvps on red for raid mobs, they just log out because no one's gonna 20v100.

[Daldaen]

the endgame on blue is standing in EC tunnel or staring at a raid mob's spawn point for upwards of 16 hours

the endgame on red is killing people to settle disputes

Endgame on blue is leveling alts you twink, soloing/duoing group content or 1 grouping "raid content".

Neckbeard game on blue is staring at a wall for 16 hours. Truth. Sim Repop game though is way more entertaining.

[Colgate]

sadly the endgame on red has problems too. one guild gets 100% of the raid mobs, since there's no variance and they bring 100 people per fight. you can pvp in theory, but nobody pvps on red for raid mobs, they just log out because no one's gonna 20v100.

simply untrue, 5 days ago there was an 88v127 for venril sathir; the top guild on the server was vastly outnumbered

[Colgate]

Endgame on blue is leveling alts you twink, soloing/duoing group content or 1 grouping "raid content".

Neckbeard game on blue is staring at a wall for 16 hours. Truth. Sim Repop game though is way more entertaining.

i would consider both of these paths to be both neckbearding and endgame

[Wrench]

simply untrue, 5 days ago there was an 88v127 for venril sathir; the top guild on the server was vastly outnumbered

and how did the top guild handle this opportunity to compete for a raid target?

were they all appreciative and thank the community for pvping on a pvp server? did they make sure to pvp at the encounter within the current rule set?

[Glenzig]

and how did the top guild handle this opportunity to compete for a raid target?

were they all appreciative and thank the community for pvping on a pvp server? did they make sure to pvp at the encounter within the current rule set?

I believe this was the official response.
Gardur and Max are welcome to join Azrael

or

Leave them and form a new guild

Guilds who ally with Azrael will receive the same treatment Azrael does

Make your own 137 man army just do it without Lite, Gardur and Max (they were fine before reddit shit + Snout alliance) and we won't come down hard

[Fame]

WAR- What is it good for?!?! Absolutely-________!!

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/GXtXE2-MaUY/hqdefault.jpg

[Crazy_Horse]

Any actual talk of a pvp race war server ? With item loot. I loved searching out that no drop armour on classic. Made u feel so good finding it.

[Ezalor]

simply untrue, 5 days ago there was an 88v127 for venril sathir; the top guild on the server was vastly outnumbered

you're grasping at a single tree and declaring it a forest

this was the first and only time this ever happened in 3-4 years of server history

[Supaskillz]

you're grasping at a single tree and declaring it a forest

this was the first and only time this ever happened in 3-4 years of server history

That is not quite true. The server has largely always been dominated by one guild(be it Nihilium, Azrael, or Empire) with periodic attempts to fight them. Sometimes those include some big pvp battles. It is certainly not a weekly occurence though.

[Goldrock]

lost me at maps as well someone doesnt understand the classic aspect of eq the rule sets ca use a little bit of a change but maps hell no go open up a map online or grab a paper one.

[Goldrock]

end game whats that i dont think that term was ever penned in eq classic eq was all about the grouping and socializing while hanging out and slaying foes.Endgame is sooooo WoWish.

[Colgate]

you're grasping at a single tree and declaring it a forest

this was the first and only time this ever happened in 3-4 years of server history

your assertion was that no large scale PvP ever happens on red

please do not be upset that i used an example from this very week that disproves your assertion

[Sampson]

lost me at maps as well someone doesnt understand the classic aspect of eq the rule sets ca use a little bit of a change but maps hell no go open up a map online or grab a paper one.

well some of us smoke too much tetrahydrocannabinols and can't remember where the were going. just saying. i wanted to play erudite necro and it took me about a solid hour to find my way out of paineel seeing as i never played erudite nec in the past. didnt know the city so i was running around like a chicken with its head cut off. it sucked.

[TacoSmasher]

well some of us smoke too much tetrahydrocannabinols and can't remember where the were going. just saying. i wanted to play erudite necro and it took me about a solid hour to find my way out of paineel seeing as i never played erudite nec in the past. didnt know the city so i was running around like a chicken with its head cut off. it sucked.


eqatlas. sounds like you are going to struggle pretty hard on all aspects of p99 if you are having that much trouble navigating.

Not sure why anyone would pick blue over red99. A lot more fun to be had at lvl 60 outside of poopsocking spawn points and waiting on lists for groups.

also everyone can ignore Ezalor. Guy doesnt even play on red He just forumquests everyday calling out people for being too immersed.

yikes

[iruinedyourday]

For me the point was, I was 60 twice and you just get kinda bored. Sure its fun to really try to figure out the most efficent PvE tactics and tricks.. and without PvP, youll find yourself doing that much more often on blue.

But for the most part, you'll find yourself just kinda wandering around, doing whatever on blue. Often Id think to myself, "I wish i could pvp.. would be fun to do that right now, just fuck around pvping."

So I joined red, and now thats what I do.. its way more fun. its everything you do on blue, only more.

If you were going to try to compare the two servers, red would be the difference between an Ogre Shaman and blue would be a Barbarian.

Sure you can do basically the same things with them both, but the ogre shaman has 1 thing the barb will never have. Same with blue vs red, red will always have 1 thign blue never will.

Now for those of you bitching about 1 guild being better than other guilds? take a look at your server, you have 5 times the population, and only 2 guilds fighting it out for all the mobs. That's a worse percentage than Red has.

Also the top guild is the top guild because of skill, and people choose to be in the lesser guilds in MMO's because they want to forge their own paths.. when they realize that you cant forge your own path very well because of many things, the top guild has skill, dedication, gear.. you get frustrated and start crying foul...

which in the grand scheme of things, is 99.9% of what you end up doing once you get 60 on blue, crying foul about guilds and not doing anything about it.

P99 > Red > Blue

[iruinedyourday]

Very disappointed this was moved to pvp server chat. I guess I just slamdunked that server too hard.

[Uuruk]

For me the point was, I was 60 twice and you just get kinda bored. Sure its fun to really try to figure out the most efficent PvE tactics and tricks.. and without PvP, youll find yourself doing that much more often on blue.

But for the most part, you'll find yourself just kinda wandering around, doing whatever on blue. Often Id think to myself, "I wish i could pvp.. would be fun to do that right now, just fuck around pvping."

So I joined red, and now thats what I do.. its way more fun. its everything you do on blue, only more.

If you were going to try to compare the two servers, red would be the difference between an Ogre Shaman and blue would be a Barbarian.

Sure you can do basically the same things with them both, but the ogre shaman has 1 thing the barb will never have. Same with blue vs red, red will always have 1 thign blue never will.

Now for those of you bitching about 1 guild being better than other guilds? take a look at your server, you have 5 times the population, and only 2 guilds fighting it out for all the mobs. That's a worse percentage than Red has.

Also the top guild is the top guild because of skill, and people choose to be in the lesser guilds in MMO's because they want to forge their own paths.. when they realize that you cant forge your own path very well because of many things, the top guild has skill, dedication, gear.. you get frustrated and start crying foul...

which in the grand scheme of things, is 99.9% of what you end up doing once you get 60 on blue, crying foul about guilds and not doing anything about it.

P99 > Red > Blue
pras

[Sampson]

All im asking for is a PvP server where you can loot items too. Get that, and I may even make a donation. Shoot.

[jibekn]

the endgame on blue is standing in EC tunnel or staring at a raid mob's spawn point for upwards of 16 hours

the endgame on red is killing people to settle disputes

hahahahahahaha

[SamwiseRed]

Seriously, this server may as well be PvE. The PvP is whack as fuuh. You want to make the Red server gain popularity or be better? Make it so you can loot a peoples items. People don't always have coin on them and it would make moving up in the game a lot easier. I don't ever remember being PvP server to where you can only loot coin. I played on Rallos and you could loot items there. Bring back RZ rules and you will have a gang more people playing, I bet. And put maps on too :confused:

lost me at seriously

its a 15 year old elf sim.

[pink grapefruit]

All im asking for is a PvP server where you can loot items too. Get that, and I may even make a donation. Shoot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKcqW3dW35M

[Tune]

an ex-player quoted the topic of this thread many times

trivia question go

[fred schnarf]

^ precious tradeskills lost ^

[Efwan]

Also the top guild is the top guild because of skill

I lol'd

[grannock]

Point of the server is to get loot with Empire, delevel, and grief lowbies in rags in dungeons, or level, get plat, twink out a rogue with epic and fungi, and grief lowbies in dungeons.

I dont know 1 empire member that griefs kids on level 20 fungi twinks. You must have us confused with that guild you ally with.

[Trainhop]

Might have been Velious or Luclin era when I attended a GM event in Nro, out of place mobs with many NO DROPS to be had. I got 2 no drop pieces on a wizard, 1 or 2 on a warrior that was at the rathe Mts event. Something like this during the holidays even the small holidays I remember in this case it was a halloween event, that would make an item loot server thrive. number the zones effected during the event based on the population so no one's jimmes are rustled too bad.
Besides all that I hear people crying foul on LNS how it should be abolished, only real fair thing to put through on that is a possible button, AA like ability 2-3 day cooldown to summon all of one self's corpses (that doesn't have revivability) from every zone to avoid hassling GM's over rot's due to corpse camping should LNS actually be abolished.

[Sampson]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKcqW3dW35M

dont waste my time.

[Dulu]

The problem with the red server is it started with a crappy rule set requested by the people who just want to grief.

I think there would have been a lot more interest in the beginning if it had some teams (racial imo) and a lot of the mechanics it has now.

Racial or Religious based teams (Sullon) woulda been ideal.

[Kinosei]

Needs to bring back old school Rallos Zek rules. Thought that's what this server was when I first started, very disappointed.

[Kinosei]

I would love a new server with Rallos Zek rules. Red2?

[Rekrul]

The sad fact is there are simply not enough people interested in a 1999 eq pvp server. This server only saw growth when the xp bonus was added and blue was shutdown.

They will make another blue server, I would highly doubt they're going to take the ~300 max pvpers and make another pvp server.

[Bazia]

pop > pvp and griefing has been staff stance