Server summary?

[Fame]

last 2-4 months, seems like shit changed.

Have not logged on in ages, what has been goin on in norrath pals?

Also what is this I'm hearing about 200 vs 200 guild battles? Is that real? how? why?

Velious drops soon, whos goin on vacation? I find myself wondering about that velious RL party that has been posted about, whats the survival plan there? Are you going to be using UV lighting? Is there enough food stocks? What about a hydration plan? Who is gonna be the spotter? Are there sleep rotations?

Whats the deal with Max, gnig leading the revolution we all dreamed about?

Holo had a name change? what for lol?

Exp bonus still in place?

I flirt with the idea of playing part time again, should I finish leveling a melee or just live that lvl 49 wizard dream?

Teams still comin out after velious? (2 years from now?)

Is that threat of forcing everyone but holo to LNS from Nro on launch day real? Would be pretty awesome to lock that down lol

That's about it, random questions floating around as I lurk on my former love and casually browse the red99 forums.

Feel free to completely ignore this post or just chime in on bits and pieces, I would really like this to turn into some sort of revisionist history and/or whitewashing

[Littlegyno 13.0]

me and my aim chat pals going on vacation for 9-35 days, (i'm taking 35 paid days off work u kno).

<Empire> rules the lands.

welcome 2 eq

[FaithlessKR]

last 2-4 months, seems like shit changed.

Have not logged on in ages, what has been goin on in norrath pals?

Also what is this I'm hearing about 200 vs 200 guild battles? Is that real? how? why? 89 v 127, and it desynced the entire zone. Empire vs the rest of the server

Velious drops soon, whos goin on vacation? I find myself wondering about that velious RL party that has been posted about, whats the survival plan there? Are you going to be using UV lighting? Is there enough food stocks? What about a hydration plan? Who is gonna be the spotter? Are there sleep rotations? Serious neckbeards requesting the month of june off work, I've went the store and bought 15 new bags of socks so I never have to leave my chair.

Whats the deal with Max, gnig leading the revolution we all dreamed about? Max tried hanging off the coattails of <Holocaust> to fuck over azrael out of spite, then messed it up. Lost several of his members including an officer in the last week and lost his mind. He's not leading anything, gardur and noah are the real leaders of fresh.

Holo had a name change? what for lol? Someone posted a dumb picture on the forums and the server threw a fit hoping to get the guild banned/disbanded.

Exp bonus still in place? yes

I flirt with the idea of playing part time again, should I finish leveling a melee or just live that lvl 49 wizard dream? wizards going to be a little weaker in velious, but as long as you stay in a large zone where you can abuse yonder you'll still be relevant i think

Teams still comin out after velious? (2 years from now?) hasn't been talked about in forever

Is that threat of forcing everyone but holo to LNS from Nro on launch day real? Would be pretty awesome to lock that down lol oh it's real

That's about it, random questions floating around as I lurk on my former love and casually browse the red99 forums.

Feel free to completely ignore this post or just chime in on bits and pieces, I would really like this to turn into some sort of revisionist history and/or whitewashing

[Guido]

gyno still the worst player to ever touch the game

nothing new here, move along

[daasgoot]

"Holo had a name change? what for lol? Someone posted a dumb picture on the forums and the server threw a fit hoping to get the guild banned/disbanded."

It was a picture of a bunch of holocaust members standing around a swastika made of corpses in erudin.

[Littlegyno 13.0]

gyno still the worst player to ever touch the game

nothing new here, move along

sad that you're trying to get non-classic instanced raid zones for u and ur jersey pals.

real sad ur trying 2 ruin red99's classic experience with non-classic raid mechanics.

i will pray 2 emperor pixel smaug on ur behalf friend.

[FaithlessKR]

"Holo had a name change? what for lol? Someone posted a dumb picture on the forums and the server threw a fit hoping to get the guild banned/disbanded."

It was a picture of a bunch of holocaust members standing around a swastika made of corpses in erudin.

If you mean standing around you mean afk off to the side waiting for the hate raid to start then sure...yeah...

[daasgoot]

If you mean standing around you mean afk off to the side waiting for the hate raid to start then sure...yeah...

lol, however you wanna put it. sure

[FaithlessKR]

lol, however you wanna put it. sure

Tryin to make it sound as if we were all posing around the swastika is laughable at best. We were barely even on screen and 75% of us were afk

[daasgoot]

Tryin to make it sound as if we were all posing around the swastika is laughable at best. We were barely even on screen and 75% of us were afk

ok bud, whatever you say.

[Fame]

revisionist history and/or whitewashing

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view3/1120216/family-guy-bug-o.gif

[dontbanpls]

Tryin to make it sound as if we were all posing around the swastika is laughable at best. We were barely even on screen and 75% of us were afk

lol yeah i usually go afk in a single file line with all my pals facing in the same direction

[Uuruk]

lol yeah i usually go afk in a single file line with all my pals facing in the same direction

You united with a known racist yesterday. Stop talking.

[FaithlessKR]

lol yeah i usually go afk in a single file line with all my pals facing in the same direction

Your flawed perception is a clear indication of your rapidly deteriorating sanity. You also linked me to a video where I "warped" when anyone with half a brain can go frame by frame and clearly see that you missed me on screen for an entire second where I turned around and ran back.

Even have tells from your own guild members in the video supporting my appeal.

[dontbanpls]

You're arguing that you typically line up single file facing a swastika made of corpses before going afk?

[daasgoot]

i don't always like mad max

but when i do

its because he makes salt look like a potato.

[FaithlessKR]

You're arguing that you typically line up single file facing a swastika made of corpses before going afk?

I'm arguing that that was hardly the case, we had about 35 people in zone (depending on time the ss was taken), and there are about 20 in that picture. Nearly half of those are clearly afk and facing in random directions (me, cappa, blizze, bernard, revy, kakashi, gnomester, and gravee).

I didn't even have any idea this was taking place despite having teamspeak on the entire time up until it was posted on the forums.

[dontbanpls]

Let's agree to disagree and talk about why you have people tripping over themselves to power level bestow another character instead.

Do you think that sends a message to people that what he did was frowned upon by the leadership of the guild? I have to admit I think the opposite is true. To me it clearly states that it was completely acceptable behavior. There are some other things that make me believe that the leadership is completely comfortable being represented as a neo nazi organization. I would be happy to list them if you are interested.

[FaithlessKR]

Let's agree to disagree and talk about why you have people tripping over themselves to power level bestow another character instead.

Do you think that sends a message to people that what he did was frowned upon by the leadership of the guild? I have to admit I think the opposite is true. To me it clearly states that it was completely acceptable behavior. There are some other things that make me believe that the leadership is completely comfortable being represented as a neo nazi organization. I would be happy to list them if you are interested.

I think that whatever bestow does for the sake of his own personal amusement is his business. I've helped in getting him leveled back up because he's one of the more enjoyable people to play with on this entire server.

I've already discussed this issue in the past and I'm not getting back into it. Doing things out of boredom for your own creative amusement does not make you one thing or another, and thinking it does just makes you ignorant. The idea that you think we're a neo-nazi organization is pathetic at best, and you should worry about your own mental issues before you start judging others.

Bestow is nothing more than someone who likes to troll, he saw a creative opportunity and went for it. Quickly cleaned it up afterwards and had no intention of posting it publicly. He took a ban on a nearly epic'd, vp keyed warrior and paid the price for what he did. That's punishment enough.

[dontbanpls]

Let's say all of that is true too. Let's talk about having Nazi themed characters in the guild then. Reich Ill, Mengele, Lolschwitz. More representation of neo nazi culture all under the same guild tag.

I imagine just three more coincidences ? I might try to look up Samhains youtubes just to show you that he named them all after internment camps. I imagine that has nothing to do with anything either tho. Another coincidence that coincidentally continues to happen in the same place.

Perhaps a collage of forum posts from the last week from several members of holocaust that have adopted the habit of using german phrases? In particular highly identifiable phrases used by many neo nazi groups. Another strange bunch of coincidences perhaps?

[dontbanpls]

Let's say all of that is true too. Let's talk about having Nazi themed characters in the guild then. Reich Ill, Mengele, Lolschwitz. More representation of neo nazi culture all under the same guild tag.

I imagine just three more coincidences ? I might try to look up Samhains youtubes just to show you that he named them all after internment camps. I imagine that has nothing to do with anything either tho. Another coincidence that coincidentally continues to happen in the same place.

Perhaps a collage of forum posts from the last week from several members of holocaust that have adopted the habit of using german phrases? In particular highly identifiable phrases used by many neo nazi groups. Another strange bunch of coincidences perhaps?

http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs44/i/2009/134/9/3/two_on_one_by_K_o_v_u.jpg

[Uuruk]

Let's say all of that is true too. Let's talk about having Nazi themed characters in the guild then. Reich Ill, Mengele, Lolschwitz. More representation of neo nazi culture all under the same guild tag.

I imagine just three more coincidences ? I might try to look up Samhains youtubes just to show you that he named them all after internment camps. I imagine that has nothing to do with anything either tho. Another coincidence that coincidentally continues to happen in the same place.

Perhaps a collage of forum posts from the last week from several members of holocaust that have adopted the habit of using german phrases? In particular highly identifiable phrases used by many neo nazi groups. Another strange bunch of coincidences perhaps?
There is nobody named Lolschwitz in the guild dumbass.

[Efwan]

lol they finally made him name change, nice.

[dontbanpls]

There is nobody named Lolschwitz in the guild dumbass.

What is his name now?

http://i.imgur.com/NSK40Qm.jpg

[syzygyst]

Let's say all of that is true too. Let's talk about having Nazi themed characters in the guild then. Reich Ill, Mengele, Lolschwitz. More representation of neo nazi culture all under the same guild tag.

I imagine just three more coincidences ? I might try to look up Samhains youtubes just to show you that he named them all after internment camps. I imagine that has nothing to do with anything either tho. Another coincidence that coincidentally continues to happen in the same place.

Perhaps a collage of forum posts from the last week from several members of holocaust that have adopted the habit of using german phrases? In particular highly identifiable phrases used by many neo nazi groups. Another strange bunch of coincidences perhaps?

I like collages.

[Nirgon]

Tryin to make it sound as if we were all posing around the swastika is laughable at best. We were barely even on screen and 75% of us were afk

Can you just imagine him dreaming of us all banned over that and how happy he'd be

Red as fuck

I like collages.

no1 care wut u like

[Nasitra]

There is nobody named Lolschwitz in the guild dumbass.

Lolschwitz is a tmo transfer which is why no one knows he exists. Didn't you used to have an Adolf Hilter forum avatar? oh right you did.

[nilzark]

Basically this ->
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/04/28/01/2813123200000578-3057819-image-a-25_1430179261267.jpg

[Bazia]

my gnome has a snake staff

[Farzo]

Basically this ->
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/04/28/01/2813123200000578-3057819-image-a-25_1430179261267.jpg

that's an aussie car

[Slathar]

holy shit Salt


are you Tradesonred?

[Buhbuh]

The fact that you think Holocaust's leadership had any part in counseling new players, who, by the way, are largely TMO members that expressed full intent of joining Holocaust before even starting on Red, through their naming process to reinforce an actual neo nazi agenda on an emulated Everquest server with three hundred people is absolutely fascinating to me.

Taunto thought his screenshot was funny. He kept it to himself, because he's not stupid enough to think it would go over well on the forums. Ragnaros didn't have the foresight to see it would be a stupid fucking idea that sheds light poorly on not just him, but the guild as a whole by posting it.

That's it.

You'd have to be insane to think it's any more deluded or complex than that.

The funniest thing is that there's people on this server that actually believe you. You're a clown, Max, and you don't like Empire, which is fine, but you're doing everyone a disservice when your best recruitment tool is one where your anger conflates and can't disassociate the word "Holocaust" with the WWII Holocaust.

Either way, zero people in our guild while in game or in Teamspeak actively express nazi sentiments. You know this is true, but you're a madman, and you don't like being relegated to your guild's crippling limitations.

TLDR: You're brain dead. Fuck off.

[Uuruk]

The fact that you think Holocaust's leadership had any part in counseling new players, who, by the way, are largely TMO members that had expressed intent of joining Holocaust before even starting on Red, through their naming process to reinforce an actual neo nazi agenda on an emulated Everquest server with three hundred people is absolutely fascinating to me.

Taunto thought his screenshot was funny. He kept it to himself, because he's not stupid enough to think it would go over well on the forums. Ragnaros didn't have the foresight to see it would be a stupid fucking idea that sheds light poorly on not just him, but the guild as a whole by posting it.

That's it.

You'd have to be insane to think it's any more deluded or complex than that.

The funniest thing is that there's people on this server that actually believe you. You're a clown, Max, and you don't like Empire, which is fine, but you're doing everyone a disservice when your best recruitment tool is one where your anger conflates and can't disassociate the word "Holocaust" with the WWII Holocaust.

Either way, zero people in our guild while in game or in Teamspeak actively express nazi sentiments. You know this is true, but you're a madman, and you don't like being relegated to your guild's crippling limitations.

TLDR: You're brain dead. Fuck off.

[Gotze]

Gabrielle union is hot as fuck

[Zade]

Basically this ->
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/04/28/01/2813123200000578-3057819-image-a-25_1430179261267.jpg

this picture accurately depicts the quintessential problem of the United States. We need to go all Darwin on these people so this world can advance. Never gunna happen with thug ninjas like this

[LostCause]

bestow irah taunto etc etc etc where all your chars at bro?

[Gotze]

this picture accurately depicts the quintessential problem of the United States. We need to go all Darwin on these people so this world can advance. Never gunna happen with thug ninjas like this

Thug ninjas? Are you insane that's Jaelil the Wretched on the left and he's extremely noble

[Swish]

that's an aussie car

with Baltimore police badges.

[Slathar]

disassociate the word "Holocaust" with the WWII Holocaust.


yeah what kind of idiot associates the word holocaust with ww2



LOL

[dis_mornin]

ok bud, whatever you say.

Even if we were all in on it and kekkling.. we're playing an elf simulator game, not running for public office. Grow up.

[heartbrand]

yeah what kind of idiot associates the word holocaust with ww2



LOL

^ was in <Holocaust> for 6 months. routinely professed his pride of being a part of a guild associated with exterminating 13 million lives. created other characters named after murderous, genocidal dictators.

opinion?

null & void

NEXT

[Zlain]

Gabrielle union is hot as fuck

[daasgoot]

Even if we were all in on it and kekkling.. we're playing an elf simulator game, not running for public office. Grow up.

all i did was tell the OP what the picture was...

[Rednaros]

Das goot is a german phrase
Fuckin nazi

[Omnifiend]

The idiot who did that shoulda been booted, everyone should have moved on and called it a day. But since he wasn't, GM's had to intervene with your racist ass guild.

[Slathar]

how sad that racism has to ruin classic everquest


thanks Empire for supporting Taunto (known defender of Nazism) and Uruk (hitler was his forum avatar)

[Fame]

Only a few of you gave a summary... the fuck

[dontbanpls]

The fact that you think Holocaust's leadership had any part in counseling new players, who, by the way, are largely TMO members that expressed full intent of joining Holocaust before even starting on Red, through their naming process to reinforce an actual neo nazi agenda on an emulated Everquest server with three hundred people is absolutely fascinating to me.

Taunto thought his screenshot was funny. He kept it to himself, because he's not stupid enough to think it would go over well on the forums. Ragnaros didn't have the foresight to see it would be a stupid fucking idea that sheds light poorly on not just him, but the guild as a whole by posting it.

That's it.

You'd have to be insane to think it's any more deluded or complex than that.

The funniest thing is that there's people on this server that actually believe you. You're a clown, Max, and you don't like Empire, which is fine, but you're doing everyone a disservice when your best recruitment tool is one where your anger conflates and can't disassociate the word "Holocaust" with the WWII Holocaust.

Either way, zero people in our guild while in game or in Teamspeak actively express nazi sentiments. You know this is true, but you're a madman, and you don't like being relegated to your guild's crippling limitations.

TLDR: You're brain dead. Fuck off.

It just keeps happening out of coincidence am i right

[grannock]

The only reason i joined empire/holo when i rolled 2 months ago is cause my irl friend, zagmuk, was already guilded. Btw, hes a jew.

The name i assume was created to work people up, congrats, it worked. You are worked up over something nobody, especially members of the guild, takes seriously. Jokes on you bro.

[dontbanpls]

That is the point, holocaust caters to racists and neo nazis. thank you for confirmation

[Nirgon]

I'm going to cater to attacking your raids

[Veltira]

The fact that you think Holocaust's leadership had any part in counseling new players, who, by the way, are largely TMO members that expressed full intent of joining Holocaust before even starting on Red, through their naming process to reinforce an actual neo nazi agenda on an emulated Everquest server with three hundred people is absolutely fascinating to me.

Taunto thought his screenshot was funny. He kept it to himself, because he's not stupid enough to think it would go over well on the forums. Ragnaros didn't have the foresight to see it would be a stupid fucking idea that sheds light poorly on not just him, but the guild as a whole by posting it.

That's it.

You'd have to be insane to think it's any more deluded or complex than that.

The funniest thing is that there's people on this server that actually believe you. You're a clown, Max, and you don't like Empire, which is fine, but you're doing everyone a disservice when your best recruitment tool is one where your anger conflates and can't disassociate the word "Holocaust" with the WWII Holocaust.

Either way, zero people in our guild while in game or in Teamspeak actively express nazi sentiments. You know this is true, but you're a madman, and you don't like being relegated to your guild's crippling limitations.

TLDR: You're brain dead. Fuck off.

I liked this post so much it made me horny :p

[Littlegyno 13.0]

I liked this post so much it made me horny :p

u want me 2 hook u up with big waspnado dog?

[Silinius]

I liked this post so much it made me horny :p

I'm a bit wet myself... not like that you freaks... I pee'd myself.

[Silinius]

I'm going to cater to attacking your raids

+1

[grannock]

That is the point, holocaust caters to racists and neo nazis. thank you for confirmation

About a half dozen fresh deguilded and joined us yesterday, why did you let these racists stay taged with fresh for so long?

[Buhbuh]

It just keeps happening out of coincidence am i right

I thought it was easily inferred that there have been no coincidences. I feel like you're trying to make a conspiracy out of crystal clear facts. Newer guild members coming from blue chose to name themselves after words, slogans or epithets from WWII in an attempt to be hilarious with the guild tag next to their name.

Who could even argue that?

You're just the dipshit that thinks it goes into some further conspiracy cooked up by our leaders to propel a "neo nazi culture," rather than people just trolling.

Let's not forget that this all started almost a year ago where you championed getting our name changed because you thought the significance of the word "holocaust" in modern society couldn't/ would never be extricated from the actual meaning of the word, which, in the context of a PvP server, isn't that atrocious.

Ragnaros having a lapse in judgment and posting a dumb as fuck picture, coupled with numerous idiots in our guild naming themselves after things in WWII gave you all the ammo you needed to get it changed.

Not that any of this matters. We're still the same dominant Christian, small, tight knit family dick sucking guild we've always been.

You blew any chance you had here. And since you don't ever play, Max, the repercussions of your actions here on the forums are being inherited onto Gardur, Noah and the other people in game who are down in the trenches and actually trying to build the guild up and accomplish something.

You fucked up. Own it. You're the cancer of Fresh. Gotta cut loose.

[dontbanpls]

Lol It's funny you guys still won't take any responsibility for getting your name changed. I did not submit a single petition about it and that's what makes me laugh is that you all seem to think that I did this to you and you can't see that you are doing it to yourselves.


edit:

How can you deny being attached to this? As guild leaders it falls on your shoulders to set the tone for acceptable behavior within your ranks. Allowing this to happen, then allowing this person back and having people go out of their way to power level him is not how you distance yourself from the situation effectively. That is why I can bring down a mountain of evidence against your guild. It is because as leaders you are complacent with this behavior being in your guild.

[grannock]

Nobody cares about the name change but you, prolly cause you have less excuses to rage about, and your finally realize you have a huge case of pixel envy.

[Littlegyno 13.0]

Lol It's funny you guys still won't take any responsibility for getting your name changed. I did not submit a single petition about it and that's what makes me laugh is that you all seem to think that I did this to you and you can't see that you are doing it to yourselves.


edit:

How can you deny being attached to this? As guild leaders it falls on your shoulders to set the tone for acceptable behavior within your ranks. Allowing this to happen, then allowing this person back and having people go out of their way to power level him is not how you distance yourself from the situation effectively. That is why I can bring down a mountain of evidence against your guild. It is because as leaders you are complacent with this behavior being in your guild.

placing qazzaz's previous crimes of account stripping dead people on ur shoulders as leaders of fresh.

[Colgate]

leader of a guild who has a history of stripping/deleting accounts, spamming peoples' cell phones with text messages in the middle of the night with racial slurs for months on end, and posting peoples' phone numbers on fake craigslist advertisements trying to give us a lesson on morality and holding your guild accountable for the kind of people in it

ho man, good shit, upgrading this thread to a 5 star rating

[Grimjaw]

"Holo had a name change? what for lol? Someone posted a dumb picture on the forums and the server threw a fit hoping to get the guild banned/disbanded."

It was a picture of a bunch of holocaust members standing around a swastika made of corpses in erudin.

also it was rogean who got mad, not the server.

[jibekn]

didnt you spy on somebody's stream, fished out the guys account name, then spammed random passwords for hours then deleted his character?

get real you insane fucking psychopath

[dontbanpls]

Nobody cares about the name change but you, prolly cause you have less excuses to rage about, and your finally realize you have a huge case of pixel envy.

i have 5 bis toons get on my level dawg u don't even know about me

[Nirgon]

placing qazzaz's previous crimes of account stripping dead people on ur shoulders as leaders of fresh.

ya clean up your ranks or whatever you've been spouting

lmk when you raid hate again

[dontbanpls]

Thanks for being men about things guys I really appreciate the help 8]

[dontbanpls]

ya clean up your ranks or whatever you've been spouting

lmk when you raid hate again

We went last night. Did you miss it?

[Fame]

I still got it :rolleyes:

[Buhbuh]

we dont run our guild like multi million dollar companies because it's everquest

why would we kick out a pal for something everyone on this server knows was a joke (despite its distastefulness)

we aren't losing population for it

GMs had lines drawn, they got crossed

that's it

[Sektor]

The only reason i joined empire/holo when i rolled 2 months ago is cause my irl friend, zagmuk, was already guilded. Btw, hes a jew.

The name i assume was created to work people up, congrats, it worked. You are worked up over something nobody, especially members of the guild, takes seriously. Jokes on you bro.

<3 Marc, truly a cool person, glad my wife and I met him.

[Sektor]

The fact that you think Holocaust's leadership had any part in counseling new players, who, by the way, are largely TMO members that expressed full intent of joining Holocaust before even starting on Red, through their naming process to reinforce an actual neo nazi agenda on an emulated Everquest server with three hundred people is absolutely fascinating to me.

Taunto thought his screenshot was funny. He kept it to himself, because he's not stupid enough to think it would go over well on the forums. Ragnaros didn't have the foresight to see it would be a stupid fucking idea that sheds light poorly on not just him, but the guild as a whole by posting it.

That's it.

You'd have to be insane to think it's any more deluded or complex than that.

The funniest thing is that there's people on this server that actually believe you. You're a clown, Max, and you don't like Empire, which is fine, but you're doing everyone a disservice when your best recruitment tool is one where your anger conflates and can't disassociate the word "Holocaust" with the WWII Holocaust.

Either way, zero people in our guild while in game or in Teamspeak actively express nazi sentiments. You know this is true, but you're a madman, and you don't like being relegated to your guild's crippling limitations.

TLDR: You're brain dead. Fuck off.

My question is, why are you guy's even keeping Rag around? Sure he's a good pvper but the guy is super immature, very reckless, and basically got you're name changed and I know for a fact you're leadership is in trouble with the CSR staff because of this, yet you still keep this guy in the guild.

Desperate times desperate measures?

[Clark]

me and my aim chat pals going on vacation for 9-35 days, (i'm taking 35 paid days off work u kno).

<Empire> rules the lands.

welcome 2 eq

you don't get PTO at taco bell

[Clark]

i don't always like mad max

but when i do

its because he makes salt look like a potato.

lol

[Veltira]

My question is, why are you guy's even keeping Rag around? Sure he's a good pvper but the guy is super immature, very reckless, and basically got you're name changed and I know for a fact you're leadership is in trouble with the CSR staff because of this, yet you still keep this guy in the guild.

Desperate times desperate measures?

your answer:

http://baltimoresportsreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/anquan-scoreboard.jpeg