as suspected

[Agatha]

Red server cannot handle a zerg vs zerg server, either we donate to update the server, or the GM's are going to have to limit the size of guilds so we can play the game.


i stated this many many MANY months ago about this exact situation, and here it is.

[silo32]

cap members period

you can kill 32 k dragons with 17

100+ is ... pathetic

[syzygyst]

Red server cannot handle a zerg vs zerg server, either we donate to update the server, or the GM's are going to have to limit the size of guilds so we can play the game.


i stated this many many MANY months ago about this exact situation, and here it is.

Let's say that your second scenario happens... I wonder who in Empire will be booted? I bet you anything, all those promises to the new recruits will be out the window. I suggest people bail and join the resistance to get your pixels, or pucker up and get ready to blow ;)
This message brought to you by Not-Agatha.

[iruinedyourday]

Just for the sake of a counter argument.. the 127 person zerg was 3 guilds teamed up against one... what good would capping the guilds be if everyone is in the same teamspeak and working together anyway? Are you going to make being friends with someone with a different tag a bannable offence?

[Efwan]

These guilds only came together because we were basically forced to because of your zerg. Don't act stupid troll

[iruinedyourday]

These guilds only came together because we were basically forced to because of your zerg. Don't act stupid troll

What makes you think that a group of 17 capped guilds wouldnt work together?

[Gardur]

3 diff teamspeaks and 4 diff guilds.

just saying.

[iruinedyourday]

you guys unrustle your jimmies, I'm not making this about what YOU are doing, I'm literately responding to agathas OP, saying if you capped guilds at 17 people a group of 6 guilds WOULD just get in the same TS and it wouldn't make any difference.

[Agatha]

don't know why this is being ignored, the reason holocaust initialy lost is because they all died on DC, then the reason the allies lost was because they still had desynced inside while holo zoned out, cleared the lag and zoned back in with none or less, rinse repeat.

zerg guilds on this server don't allow for fair pvp to decide who gets the dragon on this server.

rules need to be made if the server cant physically handle the battle, we need to limit the scale of the battle.

[mrproudbeard]

You're being ignored because capping guilds will in no way limit the size of the largest guild. If they are committed to playing with each other, 4 guilds of 30 people working together is the exact same as 1 guild of 120 people working together. Unless you intend on it being hardcoded as impossible to buff/heal/group with anyone outside of your guild as well.

[HippoNipple]

cap members period

you can kill 32 k dragons with 17

100+ is ... pathetic

Changing the server based on current expansion 3 years too late a week before it handicaps and ruins future expansion. Smart.

[Littlegyno 13.0]

just had to upgrade teamspeak to 200 people.

yowl rdy 4 velly?

[krazyGlue]

Guilds should be capped at 40-50 ,

[Luniz]

Guilds should be capped at 40-50 ,

caps don't prevent size

(friends/azrael/etc)

[Guido]

I made a thread about GMs guild capping over a year ago...

Everyone de-synced having over 200 players in the same zone / next zone over ...

Agatha is right - either guild cap or update this server.

[Luniz]

what does a guild cap have to do with 200 players being in same zone

doesnt take a rocket dentist to figure this out

[RoguePhantom]

I made a thread about GMs guild capping over a year ago...

Everyone de-synced having over 200 players in the same zone / next zone over ...

Agatha is right - either guild cap or update this server.

If server couldnt handle VS, hows it gonna handle when all the guilds are in ToV. Or fighting Dain/Ring/Scout War.

[HippoNipple]

Guilds should be capped at 40-50 ,

Didn't you just team up with 10 other guilds yesterday? Why would the cap matter?

GMs probably have a good laugh reading these dumb ideas from people that think they actually know what is best for them.

[Littlegyno 13.0]

Guilds should be capped at 40-50 ,

can't wait for <Empire 1>, <Empire 2>, <Empire 3>, <Empire 4>

gonna be so goog.

[Zalaerian]

Empire 1 will be called aim chat. Gyno will hold GM of it and will be the Achilles to the myrmidons

[Guido]

so the guild cap wont prevent alliances

so only other option is to update the server to field big numbers

I thought this server was the best one tho? lolol

[Zlain]

Not so much about the capping of guilds so much as it seems to be the capping of active players in a given zone/zone cluster~ Which in itself leaves a problem of people camping that amount of players out in the zone and logging them in to prevent much of the enemy from getting into it.

Basically, short of upgrading the servers, there is nothing that can be done to stop this outside of player policing, which on this server, is a bigger oxymoron than Army Intelligence.

[daasgoot]

yeah capping guild size won't do anything.

even if you cap guild sizes.. and for some crazy fuk reason empire 1, 2, and 3 all decide they don't like each other..

you now have, emire 1, 2, 3, azrael, friends, curse, fresh.. all contesting a mob.. with 200+ ppl in a zone

[Littlegyno 13.0]

Empire 1, 2, 3, will never fight each other.

We all serve the Smaug, pras be his name.

[Buhbuh]

i think he's ignored because he's agatha

[Guide.Chroma]

Capping guild size would work if it were a guildwar server, but in FFA any guild can ally with as many others as they like.

Capping engagement size, or capping guild presence in a zone is...I don't know about this one. It'd be an awkward implementation on our side, but if the players wanted fair fights for dragons, well it's a novel idea to have a 30v30 duel for it. Interested on opinions here.

Because I'm newer, I don't know if the desync issue has been brought up and addressed before, but I'll bring it up to the staff and see if there's anything that can (or can't) be done about it.

[Guido]

Capping guild size would work if it were a guildwar server, but in FFA any guild can ally with as many others as they like.

Capping engagement size, or capping guild presence in a zone is...I don't know about this one. It'd be an awkward implementation on our side, but if the players wanted fair fights for dragons, well it's a novel idea to have a 30v30 duel for it. Interested on opinions here.

Because I'm newer, I don't know if the desync issue has been brought up and addressed before, but I'll bring it up to the staff and see if there's anything that can (or can't) be done about it.

would love to have a 30 v 30 duel for said dragon

best idea ever. been on this server for years and staff kept saying deal with numbers

now that we dealt with numbers the server crashes and people desync due to TOO MANY NUMBERS

30v30 awesome idea. Bring your best players to fight is a really cool idea.

[Rednaros]

Empires core 30 would crush Azraels 30 and you guys would still find something to bitch about

[Zalaerian]

Empires core 30 would crush Azraels 30 and you guys would still find something to bitch about

Azreal doesn't even have a core 30 lol. More like a core 5 w lite boxing another 4

[Guido]

Empires core 30 would crush Azraels 30 and you guys would still find something to bitch about

rofl would bet money on this

empire has maybe 10 solid pvpers - if that

rest are warm body noobs

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

rofl would bet money on this

empire has maybe 10 solid pvpers - if that

rest are warm body noobs

Ehh that's not even remotely true.

Empire really turned up their game. Lots of good peeps.

[Rednaros]

I hope you are kidding lmao you guys would get slaughtered...hence why you guys got 40 free LD yts yesterday and then proceeded to get slaughtered after people relogged and zoned. Almost forgot to mention we were outnumbered by 20+

[Guido]

Guide Chroma: All we've ever wanted on this server was an even number fight. This zerg mentality has made this red server a blue server, with limited to no pvp most of the time.

Last nights fights happened because we allied every guild vs the empire zerg - and were still unable to have a legit fight due to server issues mainly.

I vote yes for 30v30 to determine who wins the dragon.

[Colgate]

personally i love when others cry for non-classic changes because they lost at everquest

andis has me chortling and snortling atm

[Guido]

personally i love when others cry for non-classic changes because they lost at everquest

andis has me chortling and snortling atm

you are a sick individual and one the main reasons we cant enjoy our red server - I am responding to a guide who proposed this idea you fucking clown

get your head out of your ass holy Christ you make me sick

[Colgate]

i am not sorry that you are mad about how we refuse to play a video game the way you want us to play it

cy@ loser

[Littlegyno 13.0]

you are a sick individual and one the main reasons we cant enjoy our red server - I am responding to a guide who proposed this idea you fucking clown

get your head out of your ass holy Christ you make me sick

real sad you want instanced zones basically because u lost at everquest.

real sad andis.

[Guido]

is it my fault over 200 players in a zone de-sync players?

stfu you child and let the big boys talk.

[Buhbuh]

I don't think any more regulation on the way we PvP is a great idea.

A solid majority of people don't even like the conditions of how Force LNS is used. Nothing is wrong with LNS as a whole, but the point is that there's already a solid handful of people that want less regulation on this server.

We'd like more involvement from GMs to oversee PvP go down without intervening, and at the same time we'd like less involvement from GMs by getting rid of Force LNS immediately after losing in a big fight over contested content (i.e. not being allowed to CR, port out and snipe other raid targets faster than the winning guild can recuperate, kill the contested raid mob and move on).

Basically, people want to see more eyes (GMs) watching mass PvP, and more risk/ reward in actual wins/ losses.

[Colgate]

we won 40v120

if it had been 88v127, you would have gotten massacred to the point where the fight wouldn't have been fun

stop crying about zergs when you just took part and pride in by far the largest zerg this server has ever seen and keep saying you can't wait to do it again next week

[Guido]

if server cant handle these massive zerg fights how are we supposed to play ???

[Zlain]

This Colgate guy is a winner. What do you people not understand?

[Buhbuh]

i think when you only want 30 people to play with, it means you play within your means like any guild should do

you'll have plenty to do in velious

you can skirmish pvp

we'll have 80 and play within our means

that's it

[Littlegyno 13.0]

if server cant handle these massive zerg fights how are we supposed to play ???

i agree with u dog. we need better hardware or coding to allow for these fights.

but asking for non-classic changes to suit your type of gameplay and your specific guild is just sad dog.

real sad.

if rog or nilbog needed hardware to make these changes, all theyd have to do is ask.

me and heartbrand can get to like 10-15k by ourselves u kno?

[Guido]

who asked for non classic changes you fuck tard

holy shit you're as dumb as colgate

[Littlegyno 13.0]

who asked for non classic changes you fuck tard

holy shit you're as dumb as colgate

asking for 30v30 dragon duels is classic of course. of course you're right andis.

god ur dumb as fuck dude.

[Guido]

Capping guild size would work if it were a guildwar server, but in FFA any guild can ally with as many others as they like.

Capping engagement size, or capping guild presence in a zone is...I don't know about this one. It'd be an awkward implementation on our side, but if the players wanted fair fights for dragons, well it's a novel idea to have a 30v30 duel for it. Interested on opinions here.

Because I'm newer, I don't know if the desync issue has been brought up and addressed before, but I'll bring it up to the staff and see if there's anything that can (or can't) be done about it.

read you dumb beetle, read

I didn't ask for anything - if server cant handle 100v100 - 30 v 30 should determine it, I think its a great idea Chroma

[Littlegyno 13.0]

read you dumb beetle, read

I didn't ask for anything - if server cant handle 100v100 - 30 v 30 should determine it, I think its a great idea Chroma

it doesn't matter what guide chroma says, it's a non classic mechanic to particularly favor your group of players. might as well make instances for you dog.

classic everquest has no guild cap or encounter cap in classic/kunark/velious, so fuck off with your custom content. go play another box u kno?

pras empire and smaug

[Colgate]

I made a thread about GMs guild capping over a year ago...

Everyone de-synced having over 200 players in the same zone / next zone over ...

Agatha is right - either guild cap or update this server.

Either limit guild numbers - guild cap

or update the server to allow zerg v zerg

but ya andis isn't asking for any custom code because he lost at everquest yowl

[daasgoot]

Capping guild size would work if it were a guildwar server, but in FFA any guild can ally with as many others as they like.

Capping engagement size, or capping guild presence in a zone is...I don't know about this one. It'd be an awkward implementation on our side, but if the players wanted fair fights for dragons, well it's a novel idea to have a 30v30 duel for it. Interested on opinions here.

Because I'm newer, I don't know if the desync issue has been brought up and addressed before, but I'll bring it up to the staff and see if there's anything that can (or can't) be done about it.

think this is actually a really good idea.

all you would have to do is make it a server rule that no guild can have more than 30 players in a dragon/god contested zone withing +/-4 hours of spawn time.

server could handle this

no problems with capping a guild with size or numbers, and it would eliminate the issue's with "zerging" for pixels.

bring your best 30, winner takes the cake.

maybe do 30 for kunark content and 50 for velious content or something.

if all guilds involved in the contention call LNS or admit defeat, the winning guild can bring as many people as they like at that point to kill the dragon/god.

seems quite simple and would require no coding. Just a server rule, which is easily enforced with screenshots and logs, or a staff members presence during spawns.



OR


Upgrade the server

[Buhbuh]

yeah it's a tad out outlandish to ask GMs for even numbered fights over raid content, especially 30v30s on the eve of velious

this isn't a blue server and most people don't want more regulation here

i think generally, andis, you want to have the same access/ chance at winning raid content in the game vs. any other guild, and you want that hard-coded and enforced

the problem is that that ignores all the preparation and time people put in to make their guilds stronger/ better suited for the future, and also, in dumber way, it's an entirely disproportionate response or "fix" that's blatantly (or blaytently) aimed at Empire

you guys wanted us to recruit and contest

we did that as the underdogs and took over, we won

now we're the bad guys apparently? we run the guild the exact same as when we formed it

the problem everyone else has is - we're more prepared to fight than any other guild on the server, almost always

you can't look for ways to bypass that and expect results

you can meet us there, though

possibly take your own advice that was given to us at one point, if it's not already too late

[Luniz]

30 v 30

winner still cant defeat anything in tov/kael

lets move all players to ROFLZEK and we can 10v10 for end game velious mobs

[Sweetbaby Jesus]

it doesn't matter what guide chroma says, it's a non classic mechanic to particularly favor your group of players. might as well make instances for you dog.

classic everquest has no guild cap or encounter cap in classic/kunark/velious, so fuck off with your custom content. go play another box u kno?

pras empire and smaug

Classic Everquest could also support zergs going at it...p99 obviously cannot. Something needs to change

[Buhbuh]

In fact, I challenge Azrael's best 30 to a fight with our best 30, anything goes.

No bullshit rules, no "only self buffs." Bring everything you've got.

Pick a zone. We'll do it at your guild bind if you want. Pick a day.

Consider it an open challenge.

I'll throw 100k in the pot.

[daasgoot]

In fact, I challenge Azrael's best 30 to a fight with our best 30, anything goes.

No bullshit rules, no "only self buffs." Bring everything you've got.

Pick a zone. We'll do it at your guild bind if you want. Pick a day.

Consider it an open challenge.

I'll throw 100k in the pot.

lets do it for CT

[Something'Witty]

Just for the sake of a counter argument.. the 127 person zerg was 3 guilds teamed up against one... what good would capping the guilds be if everyone is in the same teamspeak and working together anyway?

Hard coded guilds, we will force people to play the game the way we want them to play!

/sarcasm off

[Sweetbaby Jesus]

lets do it for CT

If empire is so confident, why not?

[Osyruz]

I hope you are kidding lmao you guys would get slaughtered...hence why you guys got 40 free LD yts yesterday and then proceeded to get slaughtered after people relogged and zoned. Almost forgot to mention we were outnumbered by 20+

You can drop the 40 desyncing anytime, we had WAY more then that desync when you guys came in.....

[Rednaros]

In fact, I challenge Azrael's best 30 to a fight with our best 30, anything goes.

No bullshit rules, no "only self buffs." Bring everything you've got.

Pick a zone. We'll do it at your guild bind if you want. Pick a day.

Consider it an open challenge.

I'll throw 100k in the pot.

Ill throw 50k in
Put your money where your mouth is Andis / Lite

[Colgate]

i'll throw 500k in

meet us in the kerra isle fight pit

[Guide.Chroma]

The 30v30 (or similar derivative) would be something that would be akin to a raid agreement. Looking at the thread, that doesn't seem to be happening. 90% of the server is what you all decide to make it.

As far as upping the servers go, encounters on this scale are pretty much unheard of until Sunday. It's definitely something that's going to be looked at, and I'll be bringing it up.

[Colgate]

thank you chroma, it was literally unplayable for anyone not on the east coast once the zone had over 120ish people in it

[daasgoot]

The 30v30 (or similar derivative) would be something that would be akin to a raid agreement. Looking at the thread, that doesn't seem to be happening. 90% of the server is what you all decide to make it.

As far as upping the servers go, encounters on this scale are pretty much unheard of until Sunday. It's definitely something that's going to be looked at, and I'll be bringing it up.

considering 1 single guild can field 100 members to raids.. battles on this scale will probably be the future if there is any contention for raid content.

[Sweetbaby Jesus]

Yeah I'm all for these big ass fights but something needs to be done so the server can handle it. Would also be nice to have a full time red gm or guide to watch these fights. There was a ton of training yesterday despite us clearing the front part of kc to try and prevent it.

[Efwan]

Yeah I'm all for these big ass fights but something needs to be done so the server can handle it. Would also be nice to have a full time red gm or guide to watch these fights. There was a ton of training yesterday despite us clearing the front part of kc to try and prevent it.

+1

[Rednaros]

So whens this 30v30 happening

[derpcake]

cap members period

you can kill 32 k dragons with 17

100+ is ... pathetic

So <empire>, <empiretoo>, <moreempire> and <finalempire> can all show up to help each other while in the same TS?

Sounds hilarious.

Srsly doe, how about you make your guild more appealing, so you can stop asking GM's to implement rules to compensate for being in a guild with a lack of quality leadership and social skills?

Or you can start asking GM's to cap /friends also, so you can make more friends to play with and recruit?

Last one def my strongest suggestion in hindsight, you should go for that.

[Guide.Chroma]

Yeah I'm all for these big ass fights but something needs to be done so the server can handle it. Would also be nice to have a full time red gm or guide to watch these fights. There was a ton of training yesterday despite us clearing the front part of kc to try and prevent it.

It'd take more than just one "Full Time" GM to be around whenever a fight happens to happen. I didn't get to watch that one, though I was sitting in on a skirmish between Fresh and Empire in Seb/TT. Honestly it still just looks like a massive insect breeding frenzy to me, but that's most of EQ.

That said, until someone redirects me I will be spending my available time primarily on Red. I'll open up my skype at g.chroma as well, though my skype=/= a petition box.

[Sweetbaby Jesus]

So <empire>, <empiretoo>, <moreempire> and <finalempire> can all show up to help each other while in the same TS?

Sounds hilarious.

Srsly doe, how about you make your guild more appealing, so you can stop asking GM's to implement rules to compensate for being in a guild with a lack of quality leadership and social skills?

Or you can start asking GM's to cap /friends also, so you can make more friends to play with and recruit?

Last one def my strongest suggestion in hindsight, you should go for that.

Dumb

[Zlain]

Ahh you guys are finally getting to Live level type pvp and you're playing on a private box, Empire simply wins from here on out. With the severe lack of oversight and hardware unable to support what is definitely coming regardless of the alliance with the smaller guilds(those people would all still be in the same areas in Velious, allied or not) I foresee bad things for this server to come. Prove me wrong please~

[derpcake]

it still just looks like a massive insect breeding frenzy to me, but that's most of EQ.

I'm sure we'll get along great, since we perceive r99 the same way :p

[Sweetbaby Jesus]

It'd take more than just one "Full Time" GM to be around whenever a fight happens to happen. I didn't get to watch that one, though I was sitting in on a skirmish between Fresh and Empire in Seb/TT. Honestly it still just looks like a massive insect breeding frenzy to me, but that's most of EQ.

That said, until someone redirects me I will be spending my available time primarily on Red. I'll open up my skype at g.chroma as well, though my skype=/= a petition box.

Awesome chroma! Yeah after seeing a few battles it should start to get easy to see who is training, not aknowledging lns, and other things like that.having someone around to police stuff may have a positive impact on the community and over time reduce the amount of petition questing as well.

[Slathar]

yeah it's a tad out outlandish to ask GMs for even numbered fights over raid content, especially 30v30s on the eve of velious

this isn't a blue server and most people don't want more regulation here

i think generally, andis, you want to have the same access/ chance at winning raid content in the game vs. any other guild, and you want that hard-coded and enforced

the problem is that that ignores all the preparation and time people put in to make their guilds stronger/ better suited for the future, and also, in dumber way, it's an entirely disproportionate response or "fix" that's blatantly (or blaytently) aimed at Empire

you guys wanted us to recruit and contest

we did that as the underdogs and took over, we won

now we're the bad guys apparently? we run the guild the exact same as when we formed it

the problem everyone else has is - we're more prepared to fight than any other guild on the server, almost always

you can't look for ways to bypass that and expect results

you can meet us there, though

possibly take your own advice that was given to us at one point, if it's not already too late

i think people will result to training raids with throwaway accounts using mq2

[derpcake]

Dumb

mad :)

[derpcake]

i think people will result to training raids with throwaway accounts using mq2

prexus will shield us

[Sweetbaby Jesus]

@chroma Also while I think the big fights are fun even tho last night was unplayable for myself, the idea of 30v30 you proposed might be a good idea. Tho votes for it would probably end up almost an even split only if you managed to get everyone on the server to vote. If you just take what is said on the forums empire has more vocal players and it will make it look like most of the server is against it which might not be true.

[Sweetbaby Jesus]

mad :)

I couldn't be happier pal.

[Silinius]

You can donate at www.project1999.com - stop complaining and DONATE people!

[Guide.Chroma]

Also while I think the big fights are fun even tho last night was unplayable for myself, the idea of 30v30 you proposed might be a good idea. Tho votes for it would probably end up almost an even split only if you managed to get everyone on the server to vote. If you just take what is said on the forums empire has more vocal players and it will make it look like most of the server is against it which might not be true.

Change votes to polling, and that's about right. It's not a democracy, but we're open to suggestion.

[derpcake]

I couldn't be happier pal.

Hey, I am glad for you.

Just somehow seems some guilds have realised "oh crap, we gonna need numbers or we can't compete on our own", and are now trying to forumquest since recruitment isn't really working.

Since its not a problem to you & a staff member said the 30v30 thing ain't gonna happen unless servervote (gg empire), I guess its not a concern and the topic won't ever be raised again.

haha

[Uuruk]

Change votes to polling, and that's about right. It's not a democracy, but we're open to suggestion.

Not happening.

[Saludeen]

No changes to classic ruleset. I think most of us agree on that.

There are only two solutions I can think of:

1. Players organize smaller skirmishes across multiple zones (to dilute the load on a single zone). It could even be organized like a tournament where the winning groups fight over a "trophy zone / dragon". No GM interference.

2. Upgrade the server or fix the de-sync issue if its even possible.

[Rednaros]

In fact, I challenge Azrael's best 30 to a fight with our best 30, anything goes.

No bullshit rules, no "only self buffs." Bring everything you've got.

Pick a zone. We'll do it at your guild bind if you want. Pick a day.

Consider it an open challenge.

I'll throw 100k in the pot.

Bump

[Sweetbaby Jesus]

Hey, I am glad for you.

Just somehow seems some guilds have realised "oh crap, we gonna need numbers or we can't compete on our own", and are now trying to forumquest since recruitment isn't really working.

Since its not a problem to you & a staff member said the 30v30 thing ain't gonna happen unless servervote (gg empire), I guess its not a concern and the topic won't ever be raised again.

haha

What you are saying about recruiting is stupid and pointless tho, you are just trying to take a stab at azrael or something, take that Crap to rnf. We had more players on our side than empire last night, so recruiting isn't what is needed. The server wasn't able to handle a fight that big so hardware needs to be updated or new rules need to be put in place. I prefer new hardware

[daasgoot]

lets do it for CT

[derpcake]

What you ate saying about recruiting is stupid and pointless tho, you are just trying to take a stab at azrael or something, take that Crap to rnf. We had more players on our side than empire last night, so recruiting isn't what is needed. The server wasn't able to handle a fight that big so hardware needs to be updated or new rules need to be put in place. I prefer new hardware

Thats a convenient perspective.

Would work great for 2 small guilds vs the 100 people empire right?

Too bad lagging the crap out is classic as hell ;)

Instead of 30 vs 30, let the smaller raid forces stay out of the zone! This way less people get locked out of being able to enjoy an event, while still ensuring the zone stays stable! Can always pvp afterwards, rite, its not about pixels anyway!

[Rednaros]

I just want to see this 30v30 happen..Empire is down, lets go azrael

[Sweetbaby Jesus]

Thats a convenient perspective.

Would work great for 2 small guilds vs the 100 people empire right?

Too bad lagging the crap out is classic as hell ;)

Instead of 30 vs 30, let the smaller raid forces stay out of the zone! This way less people get locked out of being able to enjoy an event, while still ensuring the zone stays stable! Can always pvp afterwards, rite, its not about pixels anyway!

Yeah, that's the solution. You nailed it...

[Sweetbaby Jesus]

I just want to see this 30v30 happen..Empire is down, lets go azrael

Winner gets CT tonight? No interference?

[derpcake]

I just want to see this 30v30 happen..Empire is down, lets go azrael

I would donate RL gold pieces, maybe even some plat, if staff was organised.

Dear staff, do a kickstarter for this, allow us to compensate your time with money that can be used to improve the server further!

http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/shut-up-and-take-my-parents-money.jpg

[derpcake]

Winner gets CT tonight? No interference?

Give some time to prepare bro, we ain't all batphone champions.

[Sweetbaby Jesus]

Give some time to prepare bro, we ain't all batphone champions.

The hell are you even talking about?

[derpcake]

The hell are you even talking about?

Winner gets CT tonight? No interference?

Seems you implied it would happen today for a spawn happening later during the night.

Might just be my shitty english tho, dat 3rd language never worked for me too well.

[hatelore]

Lol, I left blue to get away from all the moronic rules. I come here, and a year later, More morons are trying to implement more restrictive rules. Got to love this box.

[Rednaros]

Winner gets CT tonight? No interference?

Talk 2 Cyren
Im sure he would be down

[iruinedyourday]

Guide Chroma: All we've ever wanted on this server was an even number fight. This zerg mentality has made this red server a blue server, with limited to no pvp most of the time.

Last nights fights happened because we allied every guild vs the empire zerg - and were still unable to have a legit fight due to server issues mainly.

I vote yes for 30v30 to determine who wins the dragon.

You should try class R on blue.

[heartbrand]

Guilds should be capped at 40-50 ,

voted no

[billhollins]

can't wait for <Empire 1>, <Empire 2>, <Empire 3>, <Empire 4>

gonna be so goog.

Lol awesome

[iruinedyourday]

Terrible idea (fixed)

OR

Upgrade the server

OR

adapt

[Runya]

Upgrading of hardware.....does blue have this prob? They have 3x our max pop and Idk if they have probs. 200 empire would rock would be more like live to have that many enemies. Shame the server didn't respond better.Never thought we'd lag the server out with pvp....gj Bros

[Guido]

Upgrading of hardware.....does blue have this prob? They have 3x our max pop and Idk if they have probs. 200 empire would rock would be more like live to have that many enemies. Shame the server didn't respond better.Never thought we'd lag the server out with pvp....gj Bros

good point does blue have this issue

why is it occurring on red when blue pop is over 3x our pop

[Runya]

Can't we just get a number of upgrade costs and try to hammer it out by velious?

[Guide.Chroma]

good point does blue have this issue

why is it occurring on red when blue pop is over 3x our pop

It's more than likely about the number of people popping in and out of zone, not the actual number of people in the zone.

[Genedin]

We zoned in 80 people at the exact same time. Probably wouldn't be as bad if the zone in's were separated out.

[Runya]

good point does blue have this issue

why is it occurring on red when blue pop is over 3x our pop

My guess is it does lag when that many people in the same zone.....or perhaps not.Any nerds have hardware to recommend? What kinda cost we looking at?

[Genedin]

Has to do with handshakes.

Need more hands for handshaking.

[Guido]

It's more than likely about the number of people popping in and out of zone, not the actual number of people in the zone.

sounds like we need an upgraded server

OR

30 v 30 to determine who wins the dragon.

[Guide.Chroma]

sounds like we need an upgraded server

OR

30 v 30 to determine who wins the dragon.

Ends up like this:

The upgrade has to be done by the staff.

The "30v30" has to be done by the players.

[Genedin]

Would love to get a monetary number needed for the upgrade so we could all donate to achieve it.

Much more probably than getting players to agree to 30v30 since that probability is 0.

[Gotze]

So many ways to get around guild cap imo, not even worth the hassle.

[Littlegyno 13.0]

Ends up like this:

The upgrade has to be done by the staff.

The "30v30" has to be done by the players.



Emprie votes no. WE DON'T SUPPORT CUSTOM CONTENT/RULESETS.

NAW IM SAYING?

luv u chroma

[Rednaros]

In fact, I challenge Azrael's best 30 to a fight with our best 30, anything goes.

No bullshit rules, no "only self buffs." Bring everything you've got.

Pick a zone. We'll do it at your guild bind if you want. Pick a day.

Consider it an open challenge.

I'll throw 100k in the pot.

[Runya]

Anything goes means mobs? =p should 30v30 loser picks up hardware upgrade imo

[Emoteen]

should 30v30 loser picks up hardware upgrade imo

Ha, that's great!

[Grimjaw]

first, we'll need a 10U blade server / 16 blades (Each zone hosted by its own server). no less than 128gig ram. we'll also need fibre across the board, from rack all the way to the backbone, with at least a dedicated 1 GBps UPLOAD just for RED ($1000 a month)

[Guido]

Ends up like this:

The upgrade has to be done by the staff.

The "30v30" has to be done by the players.

im with it

lets git er done

[Colgate]

i will bring our entire raidforce to every single raid target and there's nothing you can do to stop me

[Runya]

i will bring our entire raidforce to every single raid target and there's nothing you can do to stop me

I hope 200 more log in.....with an alliance less targets...hook it up

[Runya]

first, we'll need a 10U blade server / 16 blades (Each zone hosted by its own server). no less than 128gig ram. we'll also need fibre across the board, from rack all the way to the backbone, with at least a dedicated 1 GBps UPLOAD just for RED ($1000 a month)

whats our current upload at?

[Guido]

i will bring our entire raidforce to every single raid target and there's nothing you can do to stop me

in the end - you are still a 20 year old soon-to-be man, trapped in a little 12 year olds body

I'd be more concerned about hitting the gym than how many warm bodies you are able to produce

think about it.

[Sweetbaby Jesus]

Lol, I left blue to get away from all the moronic rules. I come here, and a year later, More morons are trying to implement more restrictive rules. Got to love this box.

Maybe you shouldn't have all swarmed ti one guild and we wouldn't be in this situation. I came from blue for the same reason and joined the big guild as well but after taking a break and coming back i realized I was only adding to the problem so I left the big guild.

[hatelore]

Does that make you a middle aged man trapped in a bad man's body andith?

[hatelore]

Maybe you shouldn't have all swarmed ti one guild and we wouldn't be in this situation. I came from blue for the same reason and joined the big guild as well but after taking a break and coming back i realized I was only adding to the problem so I left the big guild.

Maybe you should just quit eq. Since we are talking about what we both should maybe do?

[Sweetbaby Jesus]

Maybe you should just quit eq. Since we are talking about what we both should maybe do?

Sick burn bro

[Slathar]

Maybe you should just quit eq. Since we are talking about what we both should maybe do?

who are you

[Sweetbaby Jesus]

who are you

NameRankClassKillsDeathsRatioStreakPointsGuild
Hatelore 5446 23 32 0.72 0 2.14 Empire

Non factor. Telling someone to quit cause he's a big tough warm body

[Guido]

who are you

[hatelore]

NameRankClassKillsDeathsRatioStreakPointsGuild
Hatelore 5446 23 32 0.72 0 2.14 Empire

Non factor. Telling someone to quit cause he's a big tough warm body

Non factor, yet I have less deaths and more kills on my char I play daily then you do :( Sorry. And you have a T staff, lawl. Moran.

[grannock]

Guide Chroma: All we've ever wanted on this server was an even number fight. This zerg mentality has made this red server a blue server, with limited to no pvp most of the time.

Last nights fights happened because we allied every guild vs the empire zerg - and were still unable to have a legit fight due to server issues mainly.

I vote yes for 30v30 to determine who wins the dragon.

U realize your vote means nothing because our zerg vote destroys you. Go away.

[Sweetbaby Jesus]

Non factor, yet I have less deaths and more kills on my char I play daily then you do :( Sorry. And you have a T staff, lawl. Moran.

Did you even look at my stats?

Name Rank Class Kills Deaths Ratio Streak Points Guild
Chun 277 Monk 32 7 4.57 11 11.08 Azrael

Hope that helps...

Also they gave June a t staff why not you? Who needs a t staff when you have a pulse tho right?

[Slathar]

Non factor, yet I have less deaths and more kills on my char I play daily then you do :( Sorry. And you have a T staff, lawl. Moran.

lol rank 5000+, talks shit constantly, heheheheh

[Agatha]

discussion is off topic, like to again say, if no guild cap or community coming together to find a way to make it possible to PVP for dragons.

what kind of donations are we looking for here to make this server so lag free the euro's feel like they are united citizens?

my checkbook is out and so are a few others. what we need.

[mrproudbeard]

This isn't necessarily an issue more hardware can solve. If the code has a shitty algorithm buried in it somewhere then better hardware isn't really gonna help much potentially. It'd take someone with server access and codebase access to do some profiling to figure out why the desynchs occur. Unless someone in the know understands the problem blindly throwing more hardware resources at it is a bad use of time. Unless the hardware were on now is knowingly underpowered and bad. But really a piece of trash 1U is likely much more powerful than whatever hardware Sony ran EQ on in live especially in the 1999 time frame.

[Brutality]

just had to upgrade teamspeak to 200 people.

yowl rdy 4 velly?

[Uuruk]

rofl i didnt say it was your idea, i just think the guide had a terrible idea pras

Hey pal

[Grimjaw]

This isn't necessarily an issue more hardware can solve. If the code has a shitty algorithm buried in it somewhere then better hardware isn't really gonna help much potentially. It'd take someone with server access and codebase access to do some profiling to figure out why the desynchs occur. Unless someone in the know understands the problem blindly throwing more hardware resources at it is a bad use of time. Unless the hardware were on now is knowingly underpowered and bad. But really a piece of trash 1U is likely much more powerful than whatever hardware Sony ran EQ on in live especially in the 1999 time frame.

basically blue runs fine and doesnt have these problems. so unless the problem is where the code changes the players name from blue to red, then its the hardware....

[Pudge]

don't know why this is being ignored, the reason holocaust initialy lost is because they all died on DC, then the reason the allies lost was because they still had desynced inside while holo zoned out, cleared the lag and zoned back in with none or less, rinse repeat.

zerg guilds on this server don't allow for fair pvp to decide who gets the dragon on this server.

rules need to be made if the server cant physically handle the battle, we need to limit the scale of the battle.

agree with the sentiment.. just hard to implement. that being said, adding even minor deterrences are better than nothing. it IS annoying to not be able to use guild chat to communicate between everyone at once... it DOES sow the seeds of separation between different factions within a "guild" if they have different tags and chat. and it WILL be denigrating to the zerg if even the GMs send the message that zerging isn't cool. hopefully new players to the server see this and choose not to join <zerg name #2>

the thing is, everything has a "work around" - the goal is to simply make it not worth it to the perpetrators. ex: throw up a fence -> some ppl will climb it -> put barbed wire -> less ppl get by, but bring a carpet/clippers -> put dogs on the other side, even less ppl going to be interested in going over, etc......

every step in the right direction counts. so sure, cap guild rosters at 80 toons or whatev. better than nothing, right?

[Jimmybones]

There always has to be a number one and whoever is at the top gets all the hate. Why can't you nerds just play everquest without crying about something all the time?

[hatelore]

Did you even look at my stats?

Name Rank Class Kills Deaths Ratio Streak Points Guild
Chun 277 Monk 32 7 4.57 11 11.08 Azrael

Hope that helps...

Also they gave June a t staff why not you? Who needs a t staff when you have a pulse tho right?

Ya I did, and sadly, my rogue has more kills and less deaths than you :( and you have a t staff, poor guy.

[Agatha]

There always has to be a number one and whoever is at the top gets all the hate. Why can't you nerds just play everquest without crying about something all the time?

this isnt about who is number one, this is about how this server cant provide a route to figuring out who is number 1.

[Lev_Mer]

go outside unless ur worried that kids parents still lookin for ya

[Agatha]

go outside unless ur worried that kids parents still lookin for ya

NAW

[Buhbuh]

Did you even look at my stats?

Name Rank Class Kills Deaths Ratio Streak Points Guild
Chun 277 Monk 32 7 4.57 11 11.08 Azrael

Hope that helps...

Also they gave June a t staff why not you? Who needs a t staff when you have a pulse tho right?

i dont understand. are you claiming that you're good or that you're better than June?

you're one of the worst monks from Nihilum.

[Sweetbaby Jesus]

i dont understand. are you claiming that you're good or that you're better than June?

you're one of the worst monks from Nihilum.

I didn't say I was better than June I was simply stating that June got a t staff from empire where as hatelore has not. You empire folks have serious reading comprehension problems. I will pray for you.

Also back then I wasn't too concerned about pvp I admit that, since I've returned I decided to focus on pvp tho and improve everyday.

[Sweetbaby Jesus]

Ya I did, and sadly, my rogue has more kills and less deaths than you :( and you have a t staff, poor guy.

Oh your MM epic'd fungi rogue?

[daasgoot]

Ya I did, and sadly, my rogue has more kills and less deaths than you :( and you have a t staff, poor guy.

what is the name of this made up character you speak of?

[Guido]

ya need name will slay him later on Kingandis

[Gardur]

Purse is the rogues name.

[Efwan]

^ O ya the twink with all the afk kills in freeport. Good one, not.

[daasgoot]

^ O ya the twink with all the afk kills in freeport. Good one, not.

hahaha, 50% of his kills in freeport.

god this is good

[Silinius]

http://www.project1999.com/index.php?pageid=donations

Do it. Now. Orquityourbitchinyousillytrolls

I put $50 on it. Go go.

[hatelore]

Shut up Goot or I'll snatch your purse too on that pussy wiz!

And those were not afk kills, those were SBTD ( Serious business transaction disruption) kills.