Forgot about the struggle...

[bburger4150]

Just came to P1999 a few weeks ago, and have had a blast so far.

But I'm struggling! I'm a level 20 enchanter. I can solo but I made an enchanter to do group things so soloing is not optimal.

I've been everywhere - LOIO, Guk, Oasis, Najena, Lake Rathe, etc.

I'm struggling though, because it's log on and:
a.) Find a group
b.) Not find a group and just solo til boredom makes me log off
c.) Run forever to a new XP area and start back at option A.

Most of the time I log on, /ooc that I'm LFG, and if nothing comes up I just log back off.

Am I doing it wrong? Do people really use the /lfg menu? Where should I be at 20?

[utenan]

You need to start your own groups! Start sending people tells, wether they are lfg or not, send tells to folks in adjacent zones too. I remember doing unrest/karanas/guk in my 20s
Joining a guild with others your level would probably help too

[Swish]

Depending where you are at the moment, definitely advertise... if you want to be in a well populated zone, hit up Unrest at 20 and even Mistmoore if there's a spot at the lake - just keeping people hasted and breezed is useful.

Alternative group spots at 20:-

Upper Guk
Highpass (orcs or gnolls)
East Karana? Someone soloing might take you on board, charm a pet etc.
Oasis? Might be hanging on a bit, but some do to 21 there.
Warslik's Woods (giant fort)

Want some bearable solo work?

Erud's Crossing - kerrans (good semi-afk spot)
Paineel guards (some are 18ish, no faction hit)

[Itap]

+1 for starting your own group.

[kildone]

+1 for starting your own group.

I have to agree. Playing on both blue and red I have found groups much faster by saying starting a group as opposed to LFG.

[Itap]

You can charm crocs in oasis until 24

I also see quite a few groups at the giant fort in WW.

You can do the brutes there also, saw a chanter go 28-32 on the brutes in just a couple days

[Vilkata]

20 might be a tad low, but pond groups in Mistmoore are a blast.

[Swish]

20 might be a tad low, but pond groups in Mistmoore are a blast.

I've tanked in there on my crappy paladin at 20, we had some good dps thankfully so it wasn't too noticeable :p

[RevengeofGio]

I have to agree. Playing on both blue and red I have found groups much faster by saying starting a group as opposed to LFG.

The curse of all the LFG tools in games today :)

[wormed]

You can charm crocs in oasis until 24

I also see quite a few groups at the giant fort in WW.

You can do the brutes there also, saw a chanter go 28-32 on the brutes in just a couple days

Yea, I lingered in Oasis til 24. Definitely not exactly entertaining but the exp is good. The best part about being in Oasis at 22/23 is that most players are there for the DW Caimans and lower. You pretty much have your fill of all the DW Crocs - well, I at least found that to be the case!

MM is an AWESOME place. I definitely support the make your own group. I'm not sure how many times I just collected the people at zone and made our way to GY. Pond is usually camped, but people neglect GY. Definitely a viable exp spot if your puller can pull the lower canyon area as CE does not pull those.

Once you're higher and can get into a solid CE and eventually CY group, the exp is nuts until 40. I just dinged 41 and did it in a CY group. Slower... yes, but still decently fast, very lucrative.

Anyway, good luck!

[Xumosa]

If you havent tried mistmoore yet, go there, its packed with people and groups are almost always looking for encs at primetime

[Clark]

Ench/Sham/Necro best solo classes. You'll be good any pure caster can be dominant with no gear.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

upper guk. go there. be that guy.

[RevengeofGio]

Ench/Sham/Necro best solo classes. You'll be good any pure caster can be dominant with no gear.

When people say this I wonder if they have ever played a caster in rags? In groups you probably won't notice this, but soloing as a poorly geared caster isn't something I'd call dominating. Yes I killed a blue...time sit my happy ass down while I watch tv.

[webrunner5]

When people say this I wonder if they have ever played a caster in rags? In groups you probably won't notice this, but soloing as a poorly geared caster isn't something I'd call dominating. Yes I killed a blue...time sit my happy ass down while I watch tv.

Agree. Regening health on a Enchanter after getting hit is not my idea of fun either. I find mana seems to regen a lot faster than health on here. I HATE getting hit on my Mage for that reason.

[Nisse]

Make a friends list, make it long.

[Monty405]

Join a "leveling guild". Its essentially a server wide LFG channel.

[RevengeofGio]

Join a "leveling guild". Its essentially a server wide LFG channel.

Do we have a guild like that? Have only seen 1 recruiting, but I don't visit ec much.

[curtischoy]

When people say this I wonder if they have ever played a caster in rags? In groups you probably won't notice this, but soloing as a poorly geared caster isn't something I'd call dominating. Yes I killed a blue...time sit my happy ass down while I watch tv.

As an enchanter it is quite easy. I am lvl 39 and have 5 items w/ no stats and nothing in my shoe slot and soloing has been cake. My best items are two 5/55 rings. My other gear is not very good. I think I'm at 130 int 150 cha.

Agree. Regening health on a Enchanter after getting hit is not my idea of fun either. I find mana seems to regen a lot faster than health on here. I HATE getting hit on my Mage for that reason.

Rune is ftw. Keep a stack or two of the lvl appropriate gem on you. Also illusion: Troll. I know it's only 1hp/tick, but it adds up and is actually very noticable. And mages have that self buff that has regen on it which is really nice.

[webrunner5]

I know this sounds crazy but there is TOO many people on is why you can't get a group now. Every GOOD zone is packed to the gills.

I would imagine when Velious comes out at the end of the month a lot of groups will open up in Classic, Kunark zones.

All the Velious zones will be shitted up so nobody will get a group there either lol. Velious will suck for months till half the people figure out they can't kill crap there. If you think Kunark mobs are hard, well have you got a surprise coming. :D

[Jimjam]

If there are too many/too few people on when you try to play then try playing at different times.

Or try organise a regular crew and find a spot you can easily hit up but is rarely full.

[RevengeofGio]

As an enchanter it is quite easy. I am lvl 39 and have 5 items w/ no stats and nothing in my shoe slot and soloing has been cake. My best items are two 5/55 rings. My other gear is not very good. I think I'm at 130 int 150 cha.



Rune is ftw. Keep a stack or two of the lvl appropriate gem on you. Also illusion: Troll. I know it's only 1hp/tick, but it adds up and is actually very noticable. And mages have that self buff that has regen on it which is really nice.


1 hp extra a tick is not very noticeable.... 10 hp a minute woo wee tie a lasso to that hp bar and hang on for the ride!!

Come on man; I think your bar is just lower than mine.

[curtischoy]

If you are camping mobs that are lets say on a 22 minute timer thats 220 hp you didnt have.

[radda]

woo wee tie a lasso to that hp bar and hang on for the ride!!


i laughed out loud.
ps. i love your avatar

[Tankdan]

Mistmoor pond from 20-27 is pretty good for a first timer

[curtischoy]

lets do some math, cuz everyone always likes that.

lvls 20-49 your hp regen is 3, lvl 60 your hp regen is 7. Troll ill makes it 4 and 8 respectively. So obviously the effect will be much larger lvls 20-49 vs 60 because of the ratio.

Assume you have 1500 hps max and you got smacked down to 100 hps, leaving 1400 hps to be healed for all scenarios.

at 60 it would take 200 ticks or 20 minutes to regen to full.
at 20-49 it would take 466.666 ticks or 46.666 minutes to regen to full.

Now with ill.

at 60 175 ticks or 17.5 minutes to regen to full - difference of 2.5 minutes.
at 20-49 350 ticks or 35 minutes to regen to full - difference of 11.666 minutes.

I am lvl 39 and have 1k hps. So lets say I got beat down to 100 hps, 900 to make up.

300 vs 225 ticks or 30 vs 22.5 min. I notice 7.5 minutes.

No matter the hp you have you will see these reduction in % of time needed to regen:
Level 1-19: N/A. Troll illusion is lvl 20.
Level 20-49: 25% reduction
Level 50-55: 20% reductoin
Level 56-59: 16.666% reduction
Level 60: 12.5% reduction


Also, trolls are awesome.

[1stCrusader]

Have you tried Estate of Unrest? I've been leveling there since 16 (currently lvl 27) and there's not a single enchanter that sits "LFG" for very long.

[Stormfists]

I'm struggling though, because it's log on and:
a.) Find a group
b.) Not find a group and just solo til boredom makes me log off
c.) Run forever to a new XP area and start back at option A.


You're doing something wrong.

From level 1 on multiple toons I've had constant groups.

Perhaps its your class / hunting location choice?

If you're anywhere near Karanas expect a lonely life.

Head to gfay/cb/unrest/mm and you'll get yourself a party.

[RevengeofGio]

You're doing something wrong.

From level 1 on multiple toons I've had constant groups.

Perhaps its your class / hunting location choice?

If you're anywhere near Karanas expect a lonely life.

Head to gfay/cb/unrest/mm and you'll get yourself a party.


I agree, but find it sad none the less that we've turned 15 yr old EQ into a modern theme park in how we play it. It could just be that we're a top heavy population and we've made do. Still sad though.

PS- still unimpressed by the troll illusion giving you 1 extra hp a tic. I'm an actual troll in game and I'm unimpressed lol.

[Citadel]

In the early levels I found that it was easier to charm solo in zones where Druids are often also around to trade breeze for sow. At lvl 20, the ideal zone for this is east karana. You can charm the gorge hounds found all over the zone or the spiders near the ramp for great exp. It's relatively safe also as you should not have any problems finding SoW for a breeze trade in that zone.

Another option which I would recommend at around ~23 range would be the gargoyles at ocean of tears. This camp is usually open and the gargoyles can drop 0-2 gargoyle eyes which vendor for 9pp each. Only downside is that this is a bit riskier, as there are no guards/zoneline to run to.

[Daldaen]

I'm pretty sure the regen from troll illusion is a static value.

It's now something that increases with level like innate troll regen bonus does.

[curtischoy]

I'm pretty sure the regen from troll illusion is a static value.

It's now something that increases with level like innate troll regen bonus does.

This is confusing. Static would imply that it never changes. But you are saying that it changes with the level of the caster.

I was under the impression that it is always 1hp/tick.

[Daldaen]

This is confusing. Static would imply that it never changes. But you are saying that it changes with the level of the caster.

I was under the impression that it is always 1hp/tick.

Autocorrect strikes again.

Now was supposed to be Not.

It's not something that increases with level. You are correct. It is a static 1 hp per tick.

[Voland]

It's not something that increases with level. You are correct. It is a static 1 hp per tick.

I guess it's not that useful past early levels then.
Like those people who think that only Iksar can be a good necro... regen can help with mana conversion at low levels, but probably not so much later on.

[tristantio]

Iksar regen is pretty noticeable at 50+ as a necro (comparing my 59 iksar nec and my 51 erudite nec).

I can go afk for the full duration of lich on the iks and not end up dead - if I do it on the erudite, I'll be looking for a rez.

[eisley]

at 60, iksars/trolls regen 12 hp per tick standing, while other races regen 4 per tick. (18 vs 7 sitting) in other words, +8 while standing, +11 while sitting.

and the regen on the troll illusion doesn't scale or have anything to do with passve troll regen. it's simply a 1 hp regen per tick affixed to the actual spell:

1 : Illusion: 9 (Troll)
4 : Increase Hitpoints by 1 per tick

[curtischoy]

Iksar/troll regen also scales up while the illusion does not.

[Swish]

Newsflash: Keep rune on you at all times, you can farm plat at 60 faster than you can burn rune reagents <3

[Clark]

When people say this I wonder if they have ever played a caster in rags? In groups you probably won't notice this, but soloing as a poorly geared caster isn't something I'd call dominating. Yes I killed a blue...time sit my happy ass down while I watch tv.

I absolutely have played gearless caster 1-50.