Rogean: Can we get the raid discussion roster updated?

[Heebo]

The Mystical Order
Leader: Zagum (bizzum)
Officer: Mazam (Komodon)
Officer: Unbrella (Ella`Ella)

These guys haven't played in over a year and none of them are TMO officers. Thanks.

[Heebo]

Bump

[knix]

update the roster?

that is a great idea

[Culkasi]

I don't think that'll happen unfortunately, we've tried to get that done since August with no luck - don't hold your breath :)

[Heebo]

Bump. We've got someone with zero authority within our guild negotiating raid disputes. Corova is our guild leader. Please update this.

http://i.imgur.com/TsswrIt.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/uuZnSul.jpg

[knix]

heart of the matter.

[Portsche]

Bump

[tolpa]

I will bump this.

[Heebo]

Bump

[JonnyX]

bump

[Erati]

there's tons wrong with the raid discussion roster:

A-Team
Leader: Qelen (Qelen)
Officer: Argh (Argh)
Officer: Cobblestone (Wycca)

^ no longer around / in TMO and Rampage

Doljonijiarnimorinar
Leader: Hyjal (Hyjal)

^ just remove this

Inglourious Basterds
Leader: Getsome (getsome)
Officer: Hokushin (Hokushin)
Officer: Lilyanna (lilyanna)

^ will let Rampage comment on this one

Knights Who Say Ni
Leader: Stembolt (myxomatosii)

^
Dont think Knights or Stem still making any kind of raiding push

Europa
Officer: Bugen (Schortt)
Officer: Gaviilan (rafaone)
Officer: Powtle (Powtle)

^ Culkasi has been asking for access for 5-6 months, Powtle etc listed here no longer are in charge of Europa raid discussions

Taken
Officer: Catherin (-Catherin-)

^ not an officer currently and we have asked for a replacement since she stepped down

+ TMO's thats in the OP

[cornisthebest]

BUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[khanable]

there's tons wrong with the raid discussion roster:

A-Team
Leader: Qelen (Qelen)
Officer: Argh (Argh)
Officer: Cobblestone (Wycca)

^ no longer around / in TMO and Rampage

Doljonijiarnimorinar
Leader: Hyjal (Hyjal)

^ just remove this

Inglourious Basterds
Leader: Getsome (getsome)
Officer: Hokushin (Hokushin)
Officer: Lilyanna (lilyanna)

^ will let Rampage comment on this one

Knights Who Say Ni
Leader: Stembolt (myxomatosii)

^
Dont think Knights or Stem still making any kind of raiding push

Europa
Officer: Bugen (Schortt)
Officer: Gaviilan (rafaone)
Officer: Powtle (Powtle)

^ Culkasi has been asking for access for 5-6 months, Powtle etc listed here no longer are in charge of Europa raid discussions

Taken
Officer: Catherin (-Catherin-)

^ not an officer currently and we have asked for a replacement since she stepped down

+ TMO's thats in the OP

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1825134&postcount=13

[Erati]

there's tons wrong with the raid discussion roster:

A-Team
Leader: Qelen (Qelen)
Officer: Argh (Argh)
Officer: Cobblestone (Wycca)

^ no longer around / in TMO and Rampage

Doljonijiarnimorinar
Leader: Hyjal (Hyjal)

^ just remove this

Inglourious Basterds
Leader: Getsome (getsome)
Officer: Hokushin (Hokushin)
Officer: Lilyanna (lilyanna)

^
Please remove Hokushin from Inglourious Basterds


For Rampage, please add:

Hokushin
Argh
Cucumbers (Khanable)


Knights Who Say Ni
Leader: Stembolt (myxomatosii)

^
Dont think Knights or Stem still making any kind of raiding push

Europa
Officer: Bugen (Schortt)
Officer: Gaviilan (rafaone)
Officer: Powtle (Powtle)

^ Culkasi has been asking for access for 5-6 months, Powtle etc listed here no longer are in charge of Europa raid discussions

Taken
Officer: Catherin (-Catherin-)

^ not an officer currently and we have asked for a replacement since she stepped down

+ TMO's thats in the OP

Quoting myself bc I couldnt edit the post bah- ty Cucs

[knix]

Bump

[Tasslehofp99]

Bump.

[Clark]

No excuse to not have this updated. Can we get some more genuine assistance; things used to be excellent 2009-2011 in regard to results in a timely fashion. Rogean don't forget about P99 man!! :)

[Pan]

Still need a couple added for Omni.

[knix]

This update is something I can get behind

[ChaosTheory]

bump

[Clark]

Please! :)

http://www.drjudithorloff.com/images/patience.jpg

[reborn649]

bump

[Heebo]

Friendly bump

Bump. We've got someone with zero authority within our guild negotiating raid disputes. Corova is our guild leader. Please update this.

http://i.imgur.com/TsswrIt.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/uuZnSul.jpg

[Fuddwin]

Poor Sirken (Variety)

[knix]

bump
I agree with you, having current officers of guilds being able to post in the raid forums is a great thing

[JonnyX]

bump

[Nightbear]

Bump. We've got someone with zero authority within our guild negotiating raid disputes.

Wow, I would be furious.

[Heebo]

Wow, I would be furious.

You have no idea...

[Swish]

200 pages incoming

[Pan]

As much as I'd like to see this updated in and for this moment, the larger issue is a broader fix to the process.

It took me MONTHS (and at least two petitions and numerous conversations) to get access for me to post as an Omni rep.

But guilds and their officers come and go - and if it gets fixed completely tomorrow, it's very likely that it won't be 100pct right a month from now. Access needs to be fluid so that it reflects, in near-real time, the authorized voices for the guilds who should be represented on that forum.

And that's a different question entirely. And maybe even more important in that if it were updatable and updated (see mechanism), this issue and thread wouldn't exist. This problem is not a one-off exclusive to this week.

[Erati]

or how about they let another moderator have high enough access to at least change the users who can post in that sub-forum

[Rivthis]

or how about they let another moderator have high enough access to at least change the users who can post in that sub-forum

*Winner*

[Sampten]

or how about they let another moderator have high enough access to at least change the users who can post in that sub-forum

Yep! I've sent a PM and I can't get added to it.

[Clark]

200 pages incoming

[Whiteberry]

Wuaat?? Page 2? ~ze bump

[JonnyX]

New raid rules every week, no way for 1/2 the guilds to dispute/defend themselves in a petition. Makes sense to me!

[sambal]

Why is Shadow Step a violation of policy? I feel like a noob here...

[Cecily]

It's not. It wasn't.

[Ella`Ella]

Why is Shadow Step a violation of policy? I feel like a noob here...

Pixel Tort Law.

[Gimp]

It's not. It wasn't.

It is. It was.

[Erati]

or how about they let another moderator have high enough access to at least change the users who can post in that sub-forum

.

[Cecily]

It is. It was.

Nah. Isn't a run speed spell. And yes it is legal. Grats on the revenge deletes tho.

[Gimp]

Nah. Isn't a run speed spell. And yes it is legal. Grats on the revenge deletes tho.

Not gonna argue with ya, ruling was already made that disputes that anyway.

How's red treating y'all?

[Seltius]

Not gonna argue with ya, ruling was already made that disputes that anyway.


Can you provide a link to that ruling please. I read through the raid rules sticky and didnt see it. I am trying to catch up on all the rules I missed over the last year or so. Seems like the new direction (Vision?) is more geared towards good Lawyerquest than actual game play.

[sambal]

Nah. Isn't a run speed spell. And yes it is legal. Grats on the revenge deletes tho.

I literally have no clue what you're talking about. Can someone point to a rule? Why are you putting this in a public forum and being so cryptic?

[Cecily]

There was a player agreement between IB / TMO that only allowed SoW in VP. TMO *cough* agreed to have loot deleted for using shadow step.

I don't know how to spell this out more clearly, but from page 1:

Bump. We've got someone with zero authority within our guild negotiating raid disputes. Corova is our guild leader. Please update this.

http://i.imgur.com/TsswrIt.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/uuZnSul.jpg

Also bump.

[Culkasi]

Back on topic - moar access to raid forums plz

[sambal]

There was a player agreement between IB / TMO that only allowed SoW in VP. TMO *cough* agreed to have loot deleted for using shadow step.

I don't know how to spell this out more clearly, but from page 1:



Also bump.

Why are players writing their own rules? I don't think Seltius and I are the only ones totally out of the loop.

[Cecily]

Because we were allowed to until my guild was retroactively punished for something that there wasn't rules against. Agreement was then voided and GM rules instated. Not disputing the decision of course. I *cough* agree with it entirely.

[sambal]

Because we were allowed to until my guild was retroactively punished for something that there wasn't rules against. Agreement was then voided and GM rules instated. Not disputing the decision of course. I *cough* agree with it entirely.

I just can't believe the state of the server.

[kaev]

I just can't believe the state of the server.

Be glad you weren't here (or maybe just weren't aware) 18-24 months ago then. The improvement is nothing short of spectacular.

[Seltius]

I don't know how to spell this out more clearly, but from page 1:



Also bump.

Ok so does this mean that it is a violation or that it is a violation for that one encounter? Also does this mean that now guilds make the rules and GMs enforce them? Sorry I have missed alot of changes in this game over the last year or so.


Oh and yes back on topic whatever it was 3 pages ago. Roster updates

[JonnyX]

Be glad you weren't here (or maybe just weren't aware) 18-24 months ago then. The improvement is nothing short of spectacular.

Ya, bcuz the current environment of frapsquest, lawyerquest, retroactive suspensions/deleted items on non-existent rules, etc...their a lot better than 18-24 months ago. Npc's are more spread out for the masses, but at the cost of everyone acting like a 10yr old trying to tattle tail first and ONE guy to make the decision of what to do. Need a collective pool of GM's to make unbiased petition decisions to stomp out the tin foil hats, before this goes overboard on a dictatorship and problems continue to ensue.

[rekreant]

Ya, bcuz the current environment of frapsquest, lawyerquest, retroactive suspensions/deleted items on non-existent rules, etc...their a lot better than 18-24 months ago. Npc's are more spread out for the masses, but at the cost of everyone acting like a 10yr old trying to tattle tail first and ONE guy to make the decision of what to do. Need a collective pool of GM's to make unbiased petition decisions to stomp out the tin foil hats, before this goes overboard on a dictatorship and problems continue to ensue.

[Heebo]

Plz help Rogean

[Erati]

or how about they let another moderator have high enough access to at least change the users who can post in that sub-forum

+1 million

[Sampten]

Yeah, it'd be nice.

My private messages have gone unanswered. While that's not surprising, as I'm sure they get a lot of PMs, the ability to post to that section indirectly makes their jobs easier.

Please get this updated!

[Heebo]

Nevermind.

[Erati]

Well now we need Forsaken to be represented there....

[Pan]

Bump and stuff.

[reborn649]

Bump

[Cecily]

Nevermind.

[Kileras]

Anonymous has tried to get a representative on there for quite some time now, would love to get our people on ( was sent to sirken in PM directly).

The instructions on the raid forum are not correct, as you cannot post on the locked forum in order to Request your guild to be added/accounts added.

[reborn649]

bump

[Sampten]

Still waiting on this. Multiple PMs sent to the Rogean/Sirken.

[Kowalski]

I'm just sayin' :

[knix]

as this happened

[Pan]

Bump.

This is just absurd.

See here, for example:
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1942980&postcount=1

People still having to proxy for one another after some number of months...

[Sampten]

Bump.

This is just absurd.

See here, for example:
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1942980&postcount=1

People still having to proxy for one another after some number of months...

I've sent multiple PMs without any response. It's disheartening that we can't get something so simple as forum permissions updated.

The updating of permissions will ultimately benefit the GMs and Guides.

[Erati]

or how about they let another moderator have high enough access to at least change the users who can post in that sub-forum

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[randomhero401]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Totally agree with this 100 %.

[Daldaen]

Just so long as I get access, I'm happy.

Make that happen plz Sirken/Rogean.

[reborn649]

Someone cool enough for Sirkens stream bring this up next Monday night if possible as its been an ongoing issue for awhile now and could potentially turn into a nightmare come Velious. If a raid mistake is made and not handled internally between the 2 guilds and ends up on the raid discussion, the opposing guild should have the capability to defend/discuss/concede their case. With so many raid rules in place, I don't think having access to discuss the ins and outs of them is asking a lot.

If still no access in the next couple weeks, maybe just make our own thread discussion page somewhere either in server chat or off site somewhere?

[Sylexis]

Divinity has had no active representation for months due to the lack of updating access :(

Can we bribe him with pizza and porn or something?

[Kope]

Can we bribe him with pizza and porn or something?

Let's just give them some puns, they always work!

[Sampten]

Someone cool enough for Sirkens stream bring this up next Monday night if possible as its been an ongoing issue for awhile now and could potentially turn into a nightmare come Velious. If a raid mistake is made and not handled internally between the 2 guilds and ends up on the raid discussion, the opposing guild should have the capability to defend/discuss/concede their case. With so many raid rules in place, I don't think having access to discuss the ins and outs of them is asking a lot.

If still no access in the next couple weeks, maybe just make our own thread discussion page somewhere either in server chat or off site somewhere?

It was brought up. Only Rogean can update the access to that forum.

I'll donate $$ if/when this occurs. Maybe that will entice him.

[reborn649]

Ahh, i must have missed that stream. Can Sirken not just ask Rogean about this then? I am sure that they must have some kinda contact or any of the other staff who has undoubtedly read this thread. I know people were saying earlier about just giving another person on the forums access to do this, would be the best idea imho and fairly easy to do if its similar to most forums out there.

Also, will bribe with a teddy ruxpin and lite-brite.

[Pan]

Bump.

Let's make this easy for Uncle Rogean.

Omni access:

Lead Hippie: Cloki (Pan) - Has access
Trustee: Gats (Alsa) - Needs access
Trustee: Shamuel (Lynnx) - Needs access

[Sampten]

Also making it easy
Divinity
Leader: Drakakade (Drakakade) -- Has Access
Officer: Sampten (Sampten) -- Needs Access
Officer: Bierp (Bierp) -- Needs Access

[Detoxx]

Forsaken access

Leader: Detoxx (Detoxx)
Officer: Carrina (reborn649)
Officer: Swage (Swage)

All need access.

Thanks

[jpetrick]

WTS my forum account

Minimum bid 1 million platinum

[Erati]

Taken

Officer: Breaken ( Breaken 34946 ) - NEED Access

Catherin (-Catherin- 17936) - REMOVE Access

[Pint]

Asgard

change Pulsate from indignation to asgard

[reborn649]

Bump! Cmon Rogean ol' chap!

Bribing with Surge and Cheez-Its!

[SamwiseRed]

leave rogean alone you filthy animals.

[Sampten]

leave rogean alone you filthy animals.

We will...when he updates the list :p

[Sampten]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[Pan]

2+ months and 9 pages means something.

[nyclin]

bumping this cause i just read a notice from Haggard Krew that was posted by Eratani because HK doesn't have forum access yet

[Merekai]

I approve these messages.

Chev

[Itap]

Taken

Officer: Breaken ( Breaken 34946 ) - NEED Access

Catherin (-Catherin- 17936) - REMOVE Access

What happened to Cath?

[reborn649]

bump

[Erati]

What happened to Cath?

Shes still around - just not an officer thusly why we are changing who represents us on the forum

or at least thats the thought behind it - whether it gets changed is another thing!

[Sampten]

Still no access...this really is just comical at this point.............

[jpetrick]

Will post messages to raid discussion on behalf of people. 1k per paragraph.

[reborn649]

Might not be a bad idea for one of you who has access to post the people requesting access on the raid discussion forum. Could help it get some much needed attention.

[rafaone]

Europa
Officer: Bugen (Schortt)
Officer: Gaviilan (rafaone)
Officer: Powtle (Powtle)

^ Culkasi has been asking for access for 5-6 months, we really need to remove Bugen and add Culkasi at least.

[Sampten]

Another day, nothing done :(

[Thana8088]

By this point, you've got to be thinking there's a reason this isn't going to be done...

(And it's name is VELIOUS)

[capco]

I still have access to that forum even after being in two other guilds since acquiring access.

If any guild leaders do not have access and need something posted, feel free to send me a forum PM with your message. This way I will be able to directly copy/paste your concerns while having an easily accessible copy for records (in the event of imposters for example).

Again, I have no way to verify who's who (although I'm not sure why someone would pretend to be someone they're not in this case), so everything will be on an honor system.

Also, this is not something I would be willing to do for long, lengthy discussions. I log on the forum maybe once a day, so please restrict any requests to general statements.

It's not a solution, but maybe it can help alleviate some concerns in the meantime.

[Ella`Ella]

Except none of you are even following Rogean's instructions of "post the link to the user's account".

Example - http://www.project1999.com/forums/member.php?u=30369

[Sampten]

Except none of you are even following Rogean's instructions of "post the link to the user's account".

Example - http://www.project1999.com/forums/member.php?u=30369

Wrong...

See here:
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=133443&page=2

[Ella`Ella]

Wrong...

See here:
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=133443&page=2

Wrong...

Read this thread and tell me people are following the format - don't use people who already have access as an example.

[Erati]

Except none of you are even following Rogean's instructions of "post the link to the user's account".



thats what the numbers are which I put next to the names

see

Taken

Officer: Breaken ( Breaken 34946 ) - NEED Access

Catherin (-Catherin- 17936) - REMOVE Access

but I will use the entire URL

Breaken - http://www.project1999.com/forums/member.php?u=34946

Catherin - http://www.project1999.com/forums/member.php?u=17936

[Pan]

Somehow, I don't think the format is the holdup.

[randomhero401]

Bump. I have made a petition with my account linked to it with no avail, i also don't think that the format is the problem.

But who knows.

[Ella`Ella]

Bump. I have made a petition with my account linked to it with no avail, i also don't think that the format is the problem.

But who knows.

Lol, it's not.

[Clark]

Somehow, I don't think the format is the holdup.

[Sampten]

Another week and nothing.

[nyclin]

this thread is funny

[Sampten]

this thread is funny

Pathetic, not funny. It's sad on many levels. They complain about people not working things out and wasting GMs times on petition quest. They then create a section for guilds to do so, and yet the fail to update it when necessary.

Simply updating the information on the 1st of each month isn't too much to ask.

[Swish]

Will it matter in August?

[Erati]

Will it matter in August?

yes it will thanks for the concern

[Swish]

Are some of the requested updates out of date yet?

[reborn649]

Bump^^

[jpetrick]

Will post messages to raid discussion on behalf of people. 1k per paragraph.

[reborn649]

Fourth of July presents from Rogean?! A raid discussion update?!

[Cecily]

Pathetic, not funny. It's sad on many levels. They complain about people not working things out and wasting GMs times on petition quest. They then create a section for guilds to do so, and yet the fail to update it when necessary.

Simply updating the information on the 1st of each month isn't too much to ask.

This thread is about an ex-officer being allowed to make decisions for a guild he no longer represented. Raid roster topic is actually a derail. You guys should probably make your own thread (that will definitely be looked at immediately and given the attention it deserves). #Antfarm

[Heebo]

Entire guild rolled red - everyone with multiple level 60s by now.

You can lock this thread.

[Erati]

On a side note, this conversation SUCKS for Divinity because they don't have access to post here. I'll post what Sampten sends me unedited, but it's not the same even still.

This is absolutely ABSURD that raiding guild reps cannot have access to participate in these conversations.

This is happening right now - how are raid guilds ever suppose to work things out if we can't post on our own forums for the game we all love to play?

[khanable]

wtb access to officer rnf

[Swish]

I would like to input on the raid discussion forum, please add <3

[Erati]

I would like to input on the raid discussion forum, please add <3

Red doesn't have a raid discussion forum - you guys are suppose to 'discuss' via combat

[fiveeauxfour]

necro bump

[Kileras]

bump,

me, from anonymous, still trying to get in!

[bktroost]

Yeah and Europa hasn't been on there in a year and a half.

[SCB]

Umbrella has a name that violates the naming policy and should be forcibly changed.

Just sayin.

[Pan]

Srsly.

[Ella`Ella]

Umbrella has a name that violates the naming policy and should be forcibly changed.

Just sayin.

I do?