View Full Version : Who's doing Vox/Nagi now? I'd like to join one before I over level
Sowelharvest
04-16-2015, 11:47 AM
Who's doing Vox and Nagi these days? I'm currently 48, fast grinding my way into my 50s with all my spells ready. I'd really like to kill the old world dragons before I level beyond them, but I haven't seen many raids forming for them. I know there's some guild clashing and mob controlling on the server, are these pretty much owned by a guild? Who has them locked down and is there any hope of joining one? Even as a guest? Any open raids for them, ever? I'd just like to see them go down one good time, it's half the reason I came to ther server.
Any advice or guidance would be helpful...
Tanarac - 48 Dark Elf Necro
jpetrick
04-16-2015, 11:50 AM
I get a little bit sad when I see these posts.
Join TMO/Rampage/BDA/Omni/Taken. Outside that you won't see either mob and in all likely hood you will outlevel being able to participate in a Class R kill or be denied from C because you are too low level and are useless on the more important mobs.
Edit: Forgot Divinity, I think they pick up the odd Vox kill. Believe they have a 55+ req though.
Sowelharvest
04-16-2015, 11:53 AM
Does the 52 and below requirement apply here? Is it really that contested, that no one but the top players get these two mobs?
Sowelharvest
04-16-2015, 11:53 AM
And is there a thread defining the "classes" of these kills? I need to understand the classifications better
Daldaen
04-16-2015, 11:58 AM
The problem with these dragons is the unclassic spawn time they have.
They should spawn every 7 days on the dot. Here they spawn every 7 days +/- 8 hours.
Using Nagafen as an example. He will spawn some time between 4PM Sunday - 8AM Monday. So there is a very high likelihood he will spawn while most people are in bed before their Monday work week begins. Making scheduling a raid impossible.
More than the top 2 guilds get these mobs. But it's only guilds who actively track or quickly show up on a server reset who get them. They die quickly after spawning, never just sitting up.
http://www.project1999.com/raid.php
That page explains the classes.
The 52 rule does apply here, they will banish players over 52.
Erydan Ouragan
04-16-2015, 12:03 PM
Does the 52 and below requirement apply here? Is it really that contested, that no one but the top players get these two mobs?
Yes, the level 52 and below requirement applies here and yes, it is really that contested.
Project 1999 does have classic mechanisms and is very authentic, except for the economy and the raiding scene.
Anything that's remotely valuable is perma-camped and contested. If you only want the casual grouping experience, p99 is great.
Sowelharvest
04-16-2015, 12:12 PM
Yeah, I've noticed the end game is super contested. To the point its discouraging. I'm trying to get my 60 ding to coincide with velious if I can, so when everyone leaves to go explore, I might be able to camp and FBSS or two in some damn peace.
As I approach, I am concerned for the drama/raid/guild/contestested/etc/etc shit the server has, but I guess that's the nature of the beast.
I am looking for a raiding guild, don't have much to offer *yet* but I do show up on time and finish the raid, if that's worth anything to any officers out there, and I'll be 60 rather soon.
On P99, you either:
1) wait for a class R version to roll around and try to tag along with one of the guilds racing for it (keeping in mind you need to be available at a moment's notice in the 16 hour window)
or 2) keep pushing to 60 and roll an alt specifically for Nag/Vox and join a Class C guild and maintain your availability for the 16 hour window at a moment's notice.
Class C (and some Class R) guilds have specifically leveled and geared alts parked in Permafrost and SolB to engage Vox and Nagafen within minutes of spawning.
Once Velious comes out, Vox's importance will go way down on the priority list with the removal of the rez staff from her drop table.
Nagafen will still be popular due to his Bladestopper.
Coffee
04-16-2015, 12:15 PM
Vox and Naggy should be restricted to low level guilds and pubs. No reason for the same guild that farms VP to have these nostalgic old world mobs locked up from the rest of the population.
My only live raid memory was a pub vox raid where tons of people just braveheart rushed her and rolled on loot.
Whirled
04-16-2015, 12:21 PM
https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fpoopsock.com%2Fcomic%2Fstrips%2F20 06-06-23.gif&f=1
signed, every p99 raid mob
Bill Tetley
04-16-2015, 12:25 PM
Vox and Naggy should be restricted to low level guilds and pubs. No reason for the same guild that farms VP to have these nostalgic old world mobs locked up from the rest of the population.
let scrubs loot bladestoppers and prayers? you cray
Monty405
04-16-2015, 12:43 PM
Re: Blue Raiding Scene
Surprised no one from Red99 has chimed in..
Daldaen
04-16-2015, 01:05 PM
Re: Blue Raiding Scene
Surprised no one from Red99 has chimed in..
A raid scene controlled by multiple Neckbeard guilds
OR
A raid scene controlled by 1 Neckbeard guild, cause not enough population for more guilds.
Naggy/Vox have desire among high end players because of the loot exclusive to them. Namely Bladestoppers, Rez Sticks and Prayers of Life (lol Gore). The former are more or less required for certain FFA engages due to how quickly they engage.
foldupmonk
04-16-2015, 01:16 PM
Funny. I was about to start this very same thread. I wanna kill some dragons too.... :(
Halius
04-16-2015, 01:20 PM
Vox and Naggy should be restricted to low level guilds and pubs. No reason for the same guild that farms VP to have these nostalgic old world mobs locked up from the rest of the population.
My only live raid memory was a pub vox raid where tons of people just braveheart rushed her and rolled on loot.
I totally agree with having pubs on this. I remember getting my warrior to level 50 and doing my first Vox raid with a bunch of random people. Was one of the best times I ever had playing EQ.
Daldaen
04-16-2015, 01:26 PM
I totally agree with having pubs on this. I remember getting my warrior to level 50 and doing my first Vox raid with a bunch of random people. Was one of the best times I ever had playing EQ.
GMs should just post this week's Nagafen spawn time, we start a thread for open Naggy raid and Sirken arrives to death touch + 1 week suspension starting May 30th to any guild contesting this Nagafen.
Do it Sirken. Do it.
loramin
04-16-2015, 01:41 PM
My only live raid memory was a pub vox raid where tons of people just braveheart rushed her and rolled on loot.
Perhaps my favorite memory on live was leading a (rotated) Vox raid. Died a bunch, barely even got to see Vox myself, and didn't get a single piece of loot, but I still had a blast.
Vox and Naggy should be restricted to low level guilds and pubs. No reason for the same guild that farms VP to have these nostalgic old world mobs locked up from the rest of the population.
It just comes down to priorities.
Hundreds of low-level players wanting to have the classic EverQuest experience of fighting a dragon?
Not a priority.
Ensuring that the raid field is "competitive" and that loot isn't "given away" by a rotation system (ie. ensuring that Tiggles and company can get their 500th Bladestopper)?
Priority. ;)
mgellan
04-16-2015, 02:40 PM
Vox / Naggy are basically two group+stragglers encounters - Omni's first ever Naggy was late night with 13 toons. Vox much the same. Have lots of MR, Null pots, and a bard. Get everyone on one Mumble. Clear to and into the lair, make sure people understand push and kill her. Is it that hard to organize?
If you want to kill a dragon, do some prep, line up your crew, plant a tracker, and give 'er on a Class R pop. Hell depending on who might be up to kill her, they might even stand down or help you clear.
Next R Lady Vox spawn window starts 2015-04-20 10:35 and ends 2015-04-21 02:35 EDT. BDA and Div locked out, Taken and Gimpatron will no doubt contest it, perhaps they'll agree to stand down for an hour to give you an uncontested shot before firing the batphones if you've put some effort in. Naggy is FFA 2015-04-19 16:00 - 2015-04-20 08:00 so you may see more players but again, ask.
Get organizing. If you can't do that, stop complaining and app a guild, they're actually putting the work in to get these mobs!
Regards,
Mg
Lictor
04-16-2015, 03:18 PM
Vox / Naggy are basically two group+stragglers encounters - Omni's first ever Naggy was late night with 13 toons. Vox much the same. Have lots of MR, Null pots, and a bard. Get everyone on one Mumble. Clear to and into the lair, make sure people understand push and kill her. Is it that hard to organize?
If you want to kill a dragon, do some prep, line up your crew, plant a tracker, and give 'er on a Class R pop. Hell depending on who might be up to kill her, they might even stand down or help you clear.
Next R Lady Vox spawn window starts 2015-04-20 10:35 and ends 2015-04-21 02:35 EDT. BDA and Div locked out, Taken and Gimpatron will no doubt contest it, perhaps they'll agree to stand down for an hour to give you an uncontested shot before firing the batphones if you've put some effort in. Naggy is FFA 2015-04-19 16:00 - 2015-04-20 08:00 so you may see more players but again, ask.
Get organizing. If you can't do that, stop complaining and app a guild, they're actually putting the work in to get these mobs!
Regards,
Mg
Super immersed
Tewaz
04-16-2015, 03:22 PM
Vox / Naggy are basically two group+stragglers encounters - Omni's first ever Naggy was late night with 13 toons. Vox much the same. Have lots of MR, Null pots, and a bard. Get everyone on one Mumble. Clear to and into the lair, make sure people understand push and kill her. Is it that hard to organize?
If you want to kill a dragon, do some prep, line up your crew, plant a tracker, and give 'er on a Class R pop. Hell depending on who might be up to kill her, they might even stand down or help you clear.
Next R Lady Vox spawn window starts 2015-04-20 10:35 and ends 2015-04-21 02:35 EDT. BDA and Div locked out, Taken and Gimpatron will no doubt contest it, perhaps they'll agree to stand down for an hour to give you an uncontested shot before firing the batphones if you've put some effort in. Naggy is FFA 2015-04-19 16:00 - 2015-04-20 08:00 so you may see more players but again, ask.
Get organizing. If you can't do that, stop complaining and app a guild, they're actually putting the work in to get these mobs!
Regards,
Mg
The unclassicness of this post is pathetic.
mgellan
04-16-2015, 03:43 PM
What knowing what the hell is going on is unclassic/pathetic? Seriously? -- Mg
Sowelharvest
04-16-2015, 04:17 PM
If we have to explain it, you wouldn't understand anyway......
Sowelharvest
04-16-2015, 04:17 PM
though I do agree - effort is key. and I do thank you for the pop times. I'm going to lurk around and see if I can get a shot at one. Sincere thank you
mgellan
04-16-2015, 04:20 PM
You're welcome -- Mg
jarshale
04-16-2015, 04:33 PM
OP, it's unfortunate but you will probably never see either of them.
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