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MissingNo
04-14-2015, 12:23 AM
This post is regarding the starting stats of a Ranger, as well as race.

I took a look at the spells that are given to the Ranger class: str buff, ac/hp buffs, infra vision, ultra vision, etc.

I also looked at the skills available to the class, specifically: hide, sneak, forage.

Furthermore the only difference between Tunare and Karana that I found was the benefit of the Helm of the Tracker via Tunare.

My desire is to start in Qeynos, as I never played a character there on live, and I wish to fully utilize the spells available to me. I find that otherwise, I should instead play a warrior, rogue, or monk.

With these considerations, I have decided that a Human Ranger with +10DEX / +10WIS would be ideal.

It seems that agility is wasted, and the skill benefits of Wood Elves are moot due to Rangers acquiring the same skills.

Humans start with higher STR than Half Elves, and have more base wisdom. Yes, they have shit vision, but I will use a Fire Beetle Eye/torch/greater light stone until I get Infravision / Ultravision.

Am I missing anything?

tl;dr : Human / Ranger / +10DEX +10WIS for more procs/bows/spellcasting.

ctre
04-14-2015, 12:47 AM
Get a half elf.

When you die and try to run back to your coprse.. you will be loolled at a lot, and curse your choice.

Cecily
04-14-2015, 08:05 AM
Don't play a half elf. I can't find the picture, but their Velious plate helm graphic is very very bad. The human one is among the best.

Barkingturtle
04-14-2015, 08:16 AM
Human is good, but I would just dump your starting points into stamina, personally. The mana returns on 10 wisdom are next to nothing, and higher dexterity sounds sexy but is really not very sexy. You know what is sexy? Eye-patches. You know what to do.

Itap
04-14-2015, 09:20 AM
Human Custom Velious Helm;

http://i.imgur.com/81O0S.png

half elf (far left);

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/4931/halfelfv.jpg

wood elf (far left);

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/9397/woodelf.jpg

You decide

fiveeauxfour
04-14-2015, 04:13 PM
both woodie ones are cool so is their chain/plate

Itap
04-14-2015, 04:15 PM
I <3 the banana helmet

Lorian
04-14-2015, 05:00 PM
I am using the Luclin graphics but most admit that some of the oldschool helm models are way cooler, although the rest of the armor looks too blocky for my taste.

MissingNo
04-14-2015, 07:46 PM
I never took the helmet graphic into account, but it's not enough to sway my choice.

As far as the dex/wis comment, I had heard that adding STA instead doesn't add much for hit points. Does anyone know of a chart that shows 1dex=what? and 1wis=xmana, or 1sta=xhp?

Thanks all for your input!

ghost182
04-14-2015, 09:32 PM
Ypu get roughly 4hp or so per stam at 60... But I don't know if there is a soft cap at which it's worth even less. I like your idea of dex or wis, but I think you'll find with normal raid gear and shaman buffs str and dex will cap but stam and wis won't come close. I would go all 20 in wis. More heals is always a good thing. At higher Lvl you can do some fun stuff with a combo of fungi, chloro, greater heals, slow on your weapon, a quick cast nuke here and there, and some bow kiting/root rotting before engage. Mana is always a good thing.

blondeattk
04-15-2015, 02:00 AM
imo go with the wis, as many +wis items can be orientated towards priests and have less martial stats on them.

str can be buffed easier than wis!

http://wiki.project1999.com/Storm_Strength

etc. Make friends with a shm, for either grpage(buffs) or str potions. Its a good duo combination anyway.
Try bow kiting with a necro....if you can find one that will talk to you! most of them are sullen, selfabsorbed types.....

PDX0621
04-15-2015, 11:44 AM
My main on live was a ranger, great class. I miss playing one here actually. Many of the best qualities/abilities of a druid, and you can fight. Make one!

Wrench
04-15-2015, 12:38 PM
I am using the Luclin graphics but most admit that some of the oldschool helm models are way cooler, although the rest of the armor looks too blocky for my taste.

http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/tumblr_mglfqla8RA1qzwh1uo1_500.gif

lecompte
04-15-2015, 12:50 PM
Wisdom will never pull your bacon out of the fire... Stamina will. Dex is okay. Str is easyish to cap, really, just do what you want. Duo/trio w/ shaman + a dps until 40. Fear kiting duo w/ necro or enchanter (did enchanter, myself) from 40-52 outdoors. All about dem ranger pulls and maxing efficiency.

Itap
04-15-2015, 02:45 PM
I never took the helmet graphic into account

We all know FashionQuest takes precedence over everything else

Ezalor
04-15-2015, 03:28 PM
I always put 20 str on my rangers, embrace the glass cannon.

ctre
04-15-2015, 10:05 PM
Get a half elf.

When you die and try to run back to your coprse.. you will be loolled at a lot, and curse your choice.

Sorry.. I forgot to add the important bit.. when you die and are niggly.. you will be blind as a human.. at least a wood elf can see

hence my comment on people laughing.. you will be bumping into things at night time.

Cecily
04-15-2015, 11:06 PM
Humans on P99 can see as well as anyone else. It's a client thing which devs can't change.

Whirled
04-16-2015, 09:14 AM
http://wiki.project1999.com/Half-Elf
(http://wiki.project1999.com/Half-Elf) Racial(s): Infravision

(http://wiki.project1999.com/Character_Races#Infravision)

baloen
04-16-2015, 09:22 AM
Don't forget to add tracking to your list of abilities. Hands down one of your most useful abilities.

Feanol
04-16-2015, 11:59 AM
Humans on P99 can see as well as anyone else. It's a client thing which devs can't change.

True that classic human night-sight is no longer a thing.

Turning the in-game gamma up to 80% effectively neutralizing vision disparities doesn't count though.

Unless I've got some sort of brain damage (which is more than likely) I can see a STARK difference between my Human's unaided sight and my Half-Elf's Infravision. Half-Elf can cast Chill Sight Ultravision too, which is again noticeably better than Infravision.

Kutsumo
04-16-2015, 12:31 PM
True that classic human night-sight is no longer a thing.

Turning the in-game gamma up to 80% effectively neutralizing vision disparities doesn't count though.

Unless I've got some sort of brain damage (which is more than likely) I can see a STARK difference between my Human's unaided sight and my Half-Elf's Infravision. Half-Elf can cast Chill Sight Ultravision too, which is again noticeably better than Infravision.

There's still a difference - you just don't have the near blindness that used to exist for races without vision buffs.

Definitely remember my first "night" in Toxx forest on my erudite magician... Couldn't see anything!

ko37qtl
04-17-2015, 02:21 PM
There's still a difference - you just don't have the near blindness that used to exist for races without vision buffs.

Definitely remember my first "night" in Toxx forest on my erudite magician... Couldn't see anything!

No kidding! An erudite was my first character and I quickly learned what a good thing torches were. I could barely get out of the tunnel into the newbie yard without one. I took to fishing on the docks through the night as it was just too dark for reasonable hunting. A lightstone, or even better a GLS was a game changer.

Samoht Farstrider
04-18-2015, 02:08 AM
My first was a human ranger. I hated that tunnel going to Surefall Glade. Kept getting turn around going through there.

Jimjam
04-18-2015, 11:34 AM
You can dance of the fireflies for corpse runs as a human at 15.

Before that you have to just make do with kicking in the carapace of a firebeetle when you die :P.

webrunner5
04-18-2015, 03:18 PM
Dex is one of the most important stats a Ranger has. It helps with Weapon skill up, but most importantly it helps a TON with Bow Crits. And that is a Rangers bread and butter, bow crits. So I think Str and Dex is the way to go. They don't need much wis because most of their spells are 15 levels below what a Druid gets, so they have low mana cost to cast them.

Korak1984
04-28-2015, 01:01 PM
I thought we dont get bow grits until after luclin?

Colgate
04-28-2015, 01:04 PM
no, bow crits are already in

Darguth
04-28-2015, 03:43 PM
Dex is one of the most important stats a Ranger has. It helps with Weapon skill up, but most importantly it helps a TON with Bow Crits. And that is a Rangers bread and butter, bow crits. So I think Str and Dex is the way to go. They don't need much wis because most of their spells are 15 levels below what a Druid gets, so they have low mana cost to cast them.

What do bow crits really matter without all the archery love post-Luclin (AA's and such)? You're not going to out-DPS your melee with it. Also I don't think P99 supports /autofire?