[Discussion] Server Guild Environmet

[Grizzler]

So recently I started a static group that decided to switch servers and make our home here on P99 Red. Now after a couple days on the server and after looking through the forums a bit I'm wondering what the actual status of the server is guild wise. I noticed that these guilds seem to be the most active, at least in terms of guild recruitment threads:

Holocaust
Fresh
The Curse
Azreal
Friends

Now according to their recruitment threads, they all seem to be doing a lot but I'm wondering if it's actually the case. So some example questions are:

1.)Is there only 2 guilds currently raiding?
2.)Is there a guild that is considered a zerg guild, a pvp only guild, pvp & pve guild?
3.)Are raiding targets constantly being killed by 1 guild only and not others and why?
4.)Is there a guild that is constantly griefing/trolling lowbies/certain zones?
5.)Some guilds are heralded as "changing the server", is that the case and why does the server need to be changed?

I'd just like to know what the server as a whole is seeing in terms of what the top guilds are doing on a regular basis. I am not looking to join a guild or find a guild for my static, I am merely trying to ascertain the current guild environment on the server while having only a couple days played on the server. As well as try and understand any feuds or issues certain guilds have with others to make sure I keep myself and my static protected.

*Note* - This is not a thread for trolling any guild or start guild fights. As well as all replies are obviously subjective and should be taken with a grain of salt. So please keep the posts civil.

*Note* - apparently I need to relearn how to spell environment..

[iiNGloriouS]

Just read their threads see how they talk, react etc. Shits all just ForumQuesting which is 100% different than in-game.

[Sirban]

Just read their threads see how they talk, react etc. Shits all just ForumQuesting which is 100% different than in-game.

[Imago]

1.)Is there only 2 guilds currently raiding?
2.)Is there a guild that is considered a zerg guild, a pvp only guild, pvp & pve guild?
3.)Are raiding targets constantly being killed by 1 guild only and not others and why?
4.)Is there a guild that is constantly griefing/trolling lowbies/certain zones?
5.)Some guilds are heralded as "changing the server", is that the case and why does the server need to be changed?



1) All of the guilds listed are currently downing raid targets. Some guilds stick to specific targets (i.e. Fresh favors Faydedar it seems, The Curse favors Naggy/Vox, etc.)
2) Holocaust is widely considered the Zerg guild, as they are without a doubt the largest guild on the server.
3) Typically, guilds will protect the raid timer of the spawns they kill in order to ensure their advantage during the next encounter.
4) Everyone kills everybody else. Don't take it personally, and you'll have a much better time on the server.
5) The biggest thing that is changing the server is the fact that there are 5 guilds contesting raid targets now, rather than just 2. For the longest time, there were only two viable options if you were interested in seeing end game content. Having multiple communities which stress different social environments is definitely helping create a more attractive image for the server, and thus a more diverse playerbase.

All in all, we're happy you're here. This place was a ghost-town less than a year ago, and it's nice to see that more and more people are choosing to play on R99.

[Grizzler]

1) All of the guilds listed are currently downing raid targets. Some guilds stick to specific targets (i.e. Fresh favors Faydedar it seems, The Curse favors Naggy/Vox, etc.)
2) Holocaust is widely considered the Zerg guild, as they are without a doubt the largest guild on the server.
3) Typically, guilds will protect the raid timer of the spawns they kill in order to ensure their advantage during the next encounter.
4) Everyone kills everybody else. Don't take it personally, and you'll have a much better time on the server.
5) The biggest thing that is changing the server is the fact that there are 5 guilds contesting raid targets now, rather than just 2. For the longest time, there were only two viable options if you were interested in seeing end game content. Having multiple communities which stress different social environments is definitely helping create a more attractive image for the server, and thus a more diverse playerbase.

All in all, we're happy you're here. This place was a ghost-town less than a year ago, and it's nice to see that more and more people are choosing to play on R99.

Great post, gave me some insight at least from one perspective. Thank you.

[lite]

1.)There's 3 guilds raiding. Fresh Azrael and Holocaust.

2.)Holocaust is the zerg, there's no PVP only guilds, Azrael does both PVE and PVP.

3.)Holocaust is currently the only guild that really manages to get big targets, and this is due to their overwhelming numbers. (raiding with 80 players). Why did Holocaust manage to get that big? Because the staff failed miserably at emulating weekly patch day respawns. Because of this all of the content spawns at the same time for months on end, and zerg type guilds can present themselves with an overwhelming force and cancel PVP opportunities. (Simulated respawns were implemented in an effort to emulate this feature, but most of the times months pass by without triggering and guilds have no opportunity to generate meaningful momentum because of it). In addition to that, Kunark has very few bosses and zones worth Raiding, making it additionally easy to monopolize the content through zerg methods.

Holocaust is not unique in the zerg business, the guild Nihilum before them was similar. Except they had some level of standards, so their size wasn't as insane and occasional PVP occured with them.

4.) Some members of friends enjoy participating in lower level PVP, since the higher end PVP is pretty dry(refer to answer #3) . Some categorize this as griefing.

5.) Many guilds like Fresh have come about in the past, with the intention of being different. However, once more refer to answer #3. These guilds never have much of an opportunity to generate momentum past your planar trash clear. Most of the times guilds like this one get absorbed, or are bullied into an alliance that ends up making them weaker in the end, or ceases their existence.

[daasgoot]

Holocaust kills 95% of the raid targets and are the largest end game guild on the server having been seen with over 80 people at raids.

The rest of the guilds try to snipe what they can here and there and none of them raid with more than 20-30 people.

there are no cease fire's between guilds that i am aware of at the moment.

[Terpuntine]

1.)There's 3 guilds raiding. Fresh Azrael and Holocaust.

2.)Holocaust is the zerg, there's no PVP only guilds, Azrael does both PVE and PVP.

3.)Holocaust is currently the only guild that really manages to get big targets, and this is due to their overwhelming numbers. (raiding with 80 players). Why did Holocaust manage to get that big? Because the staff failed miserably at emulating weekly patch day respawns. Because of this all of the content spawns at the same time for months on end, and zerg type guilds can present themselves with an overwhelming force and cancel PVP opportunities. (Simulated respawns were implemented in an effort to emulate this feature, but most of the times months pass by without triggering and guilds have no opportunity to generate meaningful momentum because of it). In addition to that, Kunark has very few bosses and zones worth Raiding, making it additionally easy to monopolize the content through zerg methods.

Holocaust is not unique in the zerg business, the guild Nihilum before them was similar. Except they had some level of standards, so their size wasn't as insane and occasional PVP occured with them.

4.) Some members of friends enjoy participating in lower level PVP, since the higher end PVP is pretty dry(refer to answer #3) . Some categorize this as griefing.

5.) Many guilds like Fresh have come about in the past, with the intention of being different. However, once more refer to answer #3. These guilds never have much of an opportunity to generate momentum past your planar trash clear. Most of the times guilds like this one get absorbed, or are bullied into an alliance that ends up making them weaker in the end, or ceases their existence.


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[lite]

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Relax Pyro ... Force, RD, Nihilum are a thing of the past. you gave it your best shot.
(to the OP... these are the failed guilds the members of Holocaut tried to get started before the GMS disbanded Nihilum)

Azrael is the only that has continued to play regardless of who is zerging.

[dontbanpls]

Lite and Azrael are also in large part responsible for the failure of all of those guilds. You have the anti Midas touch Lite. Give yourself some credit where it is due. Everything you touch turns to shit.

[vouss]

Yeah god damn my crown of rile and AoN, grats on your 2nd Faydadar btw

[Colgate]

when's beastagor get unbanned anyway?

[dontbanpls]

thx imagine what might be happening if all my friends hadn't betrayed me when Lite stripped my accounts.

[vouss]

Yeah dunno maybe you would have an AoN 2 sorry pal

[dontbanpls]

You aren't sorry and you have divulged into that which you hated as much as I ever did. Azrael just does that to people.

[vouss]

if only I had joined Nihilum with you we could be getting ready to slay our third faydadar rile-less and AoN-less together, god what a mistake I made

[Pikrib]

You aren't sorry and you have divulged into that which you hated as much as I ever did. Azrael just does that to people.

devolve

yw

[dontbanpls]

if only I had joined Nihilum with you we could be getting ready to slay our third faydadar rile-less and AoN-less together, god what a mistake I made


You realize i waited months to join nihilum after everyone i had played with for the last 2 years told me to fuck myself after lite/willy stripped me right? no? ok well fuck off either way

[fred schnarf]

azrael could be extremely successful if lite actually left this project and went and got a life.

[Efwan]

Let's keep this civil people, this isn't RnF.

@OP all of these guilds are very active and also have their bad apples I recommend grouping with a few of them before you make a split decision. The Curse is a very new guild (1 month old) yet we are sniping targets and getting pvp kills very regularly. We are a pvp oriented guild although we are all currently about 50-58 still levelling so there is always pvp and pve going on. feel free to send me a tell on Chewps or PM me here to stay away from the flamers here. They love shitting up the forums. Good luck on your decision and future!

Welcome to the server

[Gardur]

1) Fresh raids Thursday to Sunday because a lot of our people are wearing rags and the other guilds almost always send a pvp group to disrupt us. We are growing our capabilities every week.
Holo raids Sunday and Monday when the dragons repop.
Az raids sky, lives in seb, and get dragons on sim repops.
Curse is like a month old but they have done fear I think.

2) holo is referred to as the Zerg due to their raid force being, typically, 3x that of the other guilds. Az has spoken for itself in this thread. Curse is lower lvl but that has allowed them to kill naggy and vox.
Fresh, being the most prominent new guild, seems to have a target on our raid force so we see alot of pvp while attempting pve content. Once you hit 60 there is almost always a pvp group running. We also have exp groups in dungeons all over norrath on any given day.

3) holo because Zerg. Even a combined raid force of every other guild would be outnumbered and out geared by holo.

4)all guilds have low level twinks. Most are holo or friends alts as I understand it.

5) I do think the server is changing from its usual 2 guilds to ( primarily) 3 guilds. Curse is on track to make it 4 if they keep pushing.

I'm partial, being an officer of Fresh, but I do believe we are very well positioned to become a legit contender in the not too distant future.

P.s. We've killed 3 Fay's. Each of the last 3 sim repops.

[HippoNipple]

Relax Pyro ... Force, RD, Nihilum are a thing of the past. you gave it your best shot.
(to the OP... these are the failed guilds the members of Holocaut tried to get started before the GMS disbanded Nihilum)

Azrael is the only that has continued to play regardless of who is zerging.

Just because this dude campaigns against zergs and put his real life on hold for the last several years to try to bring them down don't be fooled. He is the biggest force on the server helping zergs stay alive. He has failed countless times and everyone worth a damn that ever did have faith in him have abandoned him.

[dontbanpls]

Just because this dude campaigns against zergs and put his real life on hold for the last several years to try to bring them down don't be fooled. He is the biggest force on the server helping zergs stay alive. He has failed countless times and everyone worth a damn that ever did have faith in him have abandoned him.

As an original member of Azrael, before it was Azrael, before it was Full Retard, before it was Red Dawn, when it was Vae Victis prior to the release of kunark. I agree with this statement.

[Wrench]

devolve

yw

seriously ty so much

i think after i stopped staring at it i had convinced myself he was saying he had made it publicly known how much he hated what az did

[dontbanpls]

I did it cus fucked up on weed , not even a little bit ashamed

[Slathar]

man im so glad i never joined nihilum like sociopathic max who breaks federal laws while in a rage induced psychosis

[Pikrib]

I did it cus fucked up on weed , not even a little bit ashamed

I started getting my weed from Nirgon. He your dealer also?

[dontbanpls]

nah i use a dispensary cus i live in a free state

[Grizzler]

nah i use a dispensary cus i live in a free state

Completely Jealous

[dontbanpls]

Completely Jealous

http://i.imgur.com/Ctn6Rs1.jpg


Smoking this shit may cause you to use the wrong words.

[Pikrib]

I live in a legal state also but I choose to get my stuff bloomin onion style from Nirgon. That way I don't have to shower/put on clothes to leave my moms basement. He ships that shit direct to my front door.

9/10 basement dwelling Red99ers prefer Nirgon as their dealer.

[Grizzler]

http://i.imgur.com/Ctn6Rs1.jpg


Smoking this shit may cause you to use the wrong words.

It would be worth it..
Although I imagine I would have an even bigger problem with the smell in my home...heh

[kildone]

I believe Holo is referred to a Zerg, by some, is because they bring more members than are needed to down their target. By others because they would like to have more equal numbers to allow a fair PvP competition for the target.

I am not educated enough in high end EQ Pvp to know if it is the case. I would wonder if they are bringing just enough to down the target and any competition. In that case they would not fit the name Zerg as seems to be defined by most here. If they bring even more than needed to do both then maybe they are a Zerg.

I mean honestly in old EQ back in the day nobody brought only enough say to cazic to give cazic a chance to win. Even anti Zerg guilds brought enough to win but very little extra.

ps Zerg comes from a different game where endless waves of low power enemies swarmed opposition. The first I heard of Zerg on Fennin Ro was when a raid force would use Rez sticks to bring people back into the fight rather than use skill to down the target.

[kildone]

It would be worth it..
Although I imagine I would have an even bigger problem with the smell in my home...heh

It's funny they label keep out of reach of children. If it was eaten the worst that would happen is a tummy ache. Unless they are the stems without proper chewing which would be painful and possibly lacerated tissue. Plus it would taste awful and likely be spot out. If ingested it would pass through the body without any active ingredient being absorbed.

It should say keep locked away from minors who might want to smoke/vape/cook it.

[Macdeth]

http://i.imgur.com/Ubmrthh.jpg

[Gardur]

http://i.imgur.com/Ubmrthh.jpg

Lol'd nice work. Bees a good touch. 8/10

[heartbrand]

how was Azrael Vae Victus? VV was Samwise's guild to help newbs, and he gave it over to me to contest Nihilum. It had absolutely nothing to do with Azrael.

[dontbanpls]

It was where a lot of the people that started the guild met. That's it.

[Ipman_Wingchun]

Holo is considered a Zerg because they retreat from even fights and come back an hour later with 2-3x tha players. Then they brag of victory. That's been my experience encountering them so far. It isn't just about mobs, it is how they pvp as well.

[Colgate]

weird, could have sworn holocaust attacked azrael 20v20 yesterday while azrael was trying to kill trakanon uncontested

and holocaust slaughtered them

grats angkar on donal's bp
grats cwall on singing steel bp

[cdasilva7]

so this one time Holocaust engaged Azrael without in sebilis without sow, and now they are no longer a zerg? lol pras Azrael for engaging with massive disadvantage is all I see.

There's a reason Azrael has a 2.0 Ratio and Holo proudly rocks a 1.0.

What more proof is needed that Holo is scared of even numbers pvp, than one of their leaders fleeing from a 1v1 his own guildies voted for him to participate in.

Welp, gotta go win more BoTB titles.

[Colgate]

feels good when people get so mad that they type up essays because they lost fair and balanced pvp

[daasgoot]

server is shit anyway, who rly cares

[snufzaimoverlord]

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=188334

For some history on Holocaust.

Amen.

[Buhbuh]

server is shit anyway, who rly cares

look forward to your application

[hatelore]

server is shit anyway, who rly cares

Goot





























Join holo. Thank me later~

[hatelore]

If goot joins holo we will have enough ogre and troll shamans to physically block the dragon ice bridge~~~ food for thought

[Buhbuh]

Jimi Holocaust Orran Friends Karnor's Castle 0.93 April 11 2015 1:10:26 PM

[vouss]

I'll step up and take blame for that caster is not my place to be

[Buhbuh]

Jimi Holocaust Orran Friends Karnor's Castle 0.93 April 11 2015 1:10:26 PM

[BardPop]

Mighty Holocaust raids all
Friends/azrael raid under the cover of darkness when nobody is there

Do your own research about pvp, everybody will tell you different. People have a tendency to be huge liars to save face when it comes to pvp, r99pvp.com is good for research.

Zerg comes from a different game where endless waves of low power enemies swarmed opposition. The first I heard of Zerg on Fennin Ro was when a raid force would use Rez sticks to bring people back into the fight rather than use skill to down the target.
Holo has no zerg mentality, guys who say otherwise are cowards

[FaithlessKR]

Holo is considered a Zerg because they retreat from even fights and come back an hour later with 2-3x tha players. Then they brag of victory. That's been my experience encountering them so far. It isn't just about mobs, it is how they pvp as well.

What he means is that azrael will engage with a well geared group against sub 60 holo players in rags. After seeing a couple YT, geared holo players will come for the pvp and sigh in disbelief as azrael generally plugs/camps/ports out because the fight isn't guaranteed anymore.

[Nirgon]

Holo is considered a Zerg because they retreat from even fights and come back an hour later with 2-3x tha players. Then they brag of victory. That's been my experience encountering them so far. It isn't just about mobs, it is how they pvp as well.

Yet to see a crew on this box that doesn't get viciously raped by AIM chat

[Efwan]

Haha, holo trying to defend it's 80 man severilous raids and 15 vs 6 pvp skirmishes with we aren't a "zerg wtfs?!"

Classic

[Timelord]

Zerg

[Tameth]

so much stupid

[iiNGloriouS]

Feels good fighting side by side with Salt again. That 3v14 at Seb was some good fun. Can't wait for more of that 8)

[Videri]

Good discussion. Here's my perspective. I started here on November 7, 2014 after playing in a progression guild on EQ Live called <Lost in Progression>.

1.)Is there only 2 guilds currently raiding?
3.)Are raiding targets constantly being killed by 1 guild only and not others and why?
Well, all five guilds you mentioned raid. However, only <Holocaust> and <Azrael> (+<Friends>?) have enough VP-keyed members to raid Veeshan's Peak, from which the top tier of loot comes (until Velious). <The Curse> and <Fresh> raid other targets/zones including the Plane of Fear, PoHate, PoSky, Vox, Nagafen, Ragefire, Ixiblat, Faydedar, Chardok, The Hole, and more.


4.)Is there a guild that is constantly griefing/trolling certain zones?
As far as I know, most or all members of <Friends> have faction in Chardok, as well as possibly other zones (The Hole, I believe). They use this faction - along with their high level of gear and, I admit, skill - to disrupt, wipe, and kill other guilds in these zones. I'm sure someone will say "it's classic," but I'm sure it doesn't win them any friends; and it makes you wonder if they are doing anything that a new player would want to be part of.

And as to lower-level twink PKs - since the tiny-guild purge of early 2015, most of them are unguilded, though their mains could be in almost any major guild. I don't know of any way to prove this other then admission.


2.)Is there a guild that is considered a zerg guild...?
I had so many thoughts on this topic that I started my own thread. I'd love to hear your thoughts on it. http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=189125

5.)Some guilds are heralded as "changing the server", is that the case and why does the server need to be changed?

I and many other players have a vision that a new player should be able to come to Red99 and eventually participate in PvE and PvP at the highest level his/her skills and schedule will permit.
The obstacle to this is a guild with which there can be no competition due to (1) overwhelming numbers and (2) a gear gap between top-tier members of each guild. The gear gap itself could be attributed to these overwhelming numbers, as well as to some players having played on the server for much longer. This guild is currently <Holocaust>. (The other obstacle would be twink PKs/griefers, but most mature players are not sufficiently demoralized by occasional unwinnable PvP to actually quit.)

Then again, I am not sure competition with <Holocaust> is impossible; and I will not be sure until I myself have fought their top-tier members several times. Has anyone ever fought 20v60? If the smaller force is better organized, disciplined, and committed to PvP, does it always turn out the same way or is it possible?

Anyway, back to your line of thought, <Fresh> and <The Curse> are, in fact, changing the server by successfully contesting the older guilds with characters who were created within the last six months, showing the community that new players can come to Red99, engage in successful mass PvP, and have an awesome time.

[Imago]

Good discussion. Here's my perspective. I started here on November 7, 2014 after playing in a progression guild on EQ Live called <Lost in Progression>.



Well, all five guilds you mentioned raid. However, only <Holocaust> and <Azrael> (+<Friends>?) have enough VP-keyed members to raid Veeshan's Peak, from which the top tier of loot comes (until Velious). <The Curse> and <Fresh> raid other targets/zones including the Plane of Fear, PoHate, PoSky, Vox, Nagafen, Ragefire, Ixiblat, Faydedar, Chardok, The Hole, and more.


As far as I know, most or all members of <Friends> have faction in Chardok, as well as possibly other zones (The Hole, I believe). They use this faction - along with their high level of gear and, I admit, skill - to disrupt, wipe, and kill other guilds in these zones. I'm sure someone will say "it's classic," but I'm sure it doesn't win them any friends; and it makes you wonder if they are doing anything that a new player would want to be part of.

And as to lower-level twink PKs - since the tiny-guild purge of early 2015, most of them are unguilded, though their mains could be in almost any major guild. I don't know of any way to prove this other then admission.


I had so many thoughts on this topic that I started my own thread. I'd love to hear your thoughts on it. http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=189125



I and many other players have a vision that a new player should be able to come to Red99 and eventually participate in PvE and PvP at the highest level his/her skills and schedule will permit.
The obstacle to this is a guild with which there can be no competition due to (1) overwhelming numbers and (2) a gear gap between top-tier members of each guild. The gear gap itself could be attributed to these overwhelming numbers, as well as to some players having played on the server for much longer. This guild is currently <Holocaust>. (The other obstacle would be twink PKs/griefers, but most mature players are not sufficiently demoralized by occasional unwinnable PvP to actually quit.)

Then again, I am not sure competition with <Holocaust> is impossible; and I will not be sure until I myself have fought their top-tier members several times. Has anyone ever fought 20v60? If the smaller force is better organized, disciplined, and committed to PvP, does it always turn out the same way or is it possible?

Anyway, back to your line of thought, <Fresh> and <The Curse> are, in fact, changing the server by successfully contesting the older guilds with characters who were created within the last six months, showing the community that new players can come to Red99, engage in successful mass PvP, and have an awesome time.

Goog post

[bolo]

Zerg

:D

[Grizzler]

r99pvp.com

Thanks for the link, I will definitely check this out

I had so many thoughts on this topic that I started my own thread. I'd love to hear your thoughts on it. http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=189125

I saw this as I logged on this morning and will give it a good thorough read.


Thank you to everyone who has posted, it has been very interesting to read a lot of what folks consider to be the guild situation on this server. Obviously, from a new players perspective, there is a lot of history on this server and that is a good thing.

I look forward to playing with all of you, either as a mate or enemy and hopefully having a good time all around. Hopefully one day I will be guild mates with some of you otherwise I look forward to some great fights either with my static or my non-static chars.

[Nirgon]

Server pop would be sub 100 with another guild besides Holo or Fresh in charge

Just face facts

[Slathar]

Server pop would be sub 100 with another guild besides Holo or Fresh in charge

Just face facts

yeah its regretable that so many people play here but thats what happens with 1400% exp bonus, no penalty to dying and a rule set that benefits people with genetic brain disorders.

[Pikrib]

I think Nirgon's drug dealz for pixels bring more new people to the server than the xp bonus does.

[Sektor]

yeah its regretable that so many people play here but thats what happens with 1400% exp bonus, no penalty to dying and a rule set that benefits people with genetic brain disorders.

On tz or vz or rz you didn't lose xp for pvp deaths. Just sz. Xp bonus was needed due to lack of population and nobody to group with.

[FAPhoenix]

1.)Are there only 2 guilds currently raiding?

This has been covered well, but all the guilds you stated have been raiding to some degree. Holocaust raids the most and takes most. Everyone else's raids where they can, and as strategically as they can. I have seen raid mobs downed by all the guilds.

2.)Is there a guild that is considered a zerg guild, a pvp only guild, pvp & pve guild?

All the guilds pvp, and all of them have some very good PvPers. Holo is the best geared, but there are very well geared members of other guilds. In terms of 'per capita' PvP Holo is quite low. My personal opinion is this annoys some of the better Holo PvPers who don't get the credit they deserve because their warm bodies with great gear die to rags. Azrael, Friends, The Curse are more PvP focused because they want or need to be. You don't need to PvP when you are the biggest and get great gear handed to you so you can run away. Last for PvP is Fresh. They are great for blue players (So is a lot of Holo), and they are really not PvP at all....but seem to go for a safety in numbers approach. It works for them.

You can't run a guild without PvE so all the guilds are working on how to do it best given their members and what other guilds are doing.

If I were in your shoes this would be my stance.

Fresh: Nothing to fear unless they have 2x the members in zone you do. Only once was attacked by them (4v2) and it was a stalemate.

Holo: Riskier, but only have recruits above 50's. Certain Holo are great PvPers and geared, learn to recognize those. Many are great gear but terrible at PvP. Watch out for their sharks and be ready for their super geared warm bodies to engage and run (if you know how to PvP).

Friends / Azrael: I am wary of they are in zone. Well geared, most have been strong PvPers. Honestly don't see a lot of Az out and about.

The Curse: I am biased, but I would generally avoid them. Mix of gears, levels, and skills. Getting better geared and higher levels. Have added more to the team, which has mixed up the PvP skills, but they all tend to engage regardless of skill. Used to be a higher PvP risk, but are recruiting to compete which means training and gearing new members.

Prophets of Slosh: Good guild, I haven't fought them, but they have a reputation for skills. Mostly high levels.

For personalities, most of the guilds members are genuinely helpful. Never really had bad experiences with them. I've had Holo help me out, Friends, Fresh, and have repaid the favour.

It's PvP though, so sometimes you get killed just because they want to. C'est la vie.

[Fame]

round and round we go, great read, wish I had more time to play with pals

[alaiwy0503]

I believe Holo is referred to a Zerg, by some, is because they bring more members than are needed to down their target if they didn't suck. By others because they would like to have more equal numbers to allow a fair PvP competition for the target.


FTFY, watching them bring 30+ to king/queen in chardok and wipe several times was about as humerous as it gets.

[footlongcorndog]

Are there any limits to guild size? I could care less, pvp is fun even tho I get smoked and I don't play enough to ever make it to end game, but it seems like you cant go 2 minutes of gameplay without someone bitching about Holo

[Sheriff]

I think I remember Lite one time telling the server to recruit more. Did I dream that up?

[Exed]

Yet to see a crew on this box that doesn't get viciously raped by AIM chat

Nirgon, please just don't.. You guys just started pvping about 2 months ago after everyone of you is pretty much fully BIS.

[Nirgon]

I was in a bone caster robe minus rile when I killed you on the OT boat

Pls level necro to 56+ if you have not already

[daasgoot]

I think I remember Lite one time telling the server to recruit more. Did I dream that up?

http://www.theoilersrig.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/lets-beat-that-horse.jpg

I'm sure when he said recruit and contest he meant recruit 3x more than you need to contest. I'm sure of it.

[Clark]

http://www.theoilersrig.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/lets-beat-that-horse.jpg

I'm sure when he said recruit and contest he meant recruit 3x more than you need to contest. I'm sure of it.

lol

[Sheriff]

http://www.theoilersrig.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/lets-beat-that-horse.jpg

I'm sure when he said recruit and contest he meant recruit 3x more than you need to contest. I'm sure of it.

I'm sure his elitist attitude created Holo's success. Ensidia was a great idea.

[Feanol]

(The other obstacle would be twink PKs/griefers, but most mature players are not sufficiently demoralized by occasional unwinnable PvP to actually quit.)

This is the most well put expression ever. Hit the nail on the head there Tuneweaver.