Unable to edit my forum posts

[t3kn34k]

I have noticed that the 'edit' button which should be right next to the quote button is NOT THERE. i relogged several times and this issue remains.

wait... look at this wonderful little edit button. seems to only apply to my EC tunnel threads.

[Zade]

you cant edit posts in certain forums.

the mods like to laugh when people drunk post and cant edit

[t3kn34k]

I have always been able to edit my EC tunnel threads before. doesnt seem logical that you cant change your price or mark something as sold. can i get a real answer?

[Pringles]

Looks like older posts (probably after X days or something?) can no longer be edited, but new ones can? Maybe staff can clarify for us.

[Enderenter]

I noticed this as well, have always been able to edit my EC tunnel posts, but now when they are a few days old you can't anymore.

[Sikorsky]

It was recently changed to a 30 minute window.

[Daldaen]

It was recently changed to a 30 minute window.

Can this be reverted for ECTunnel section at least?

It's far easier to edit an ECTunnel thread to reflect the availability and prices on items rather than creating a new thread each day/week.

[zanderklocke]

Can this be reverted for ECTunnel section at least?

It's far easier to edit an ECTunnel thread to reflect the availability and prices on items rather than creating a new thread each day/week.

[loramin]

Can this be reverted for ECTunnel section at least?

It's far easier to edit an ECTunnel thread to reflect the availability and prices on items rather than creating a new thread each day/week.

+1

[Nikkanu]

Can this be reverted for ECTunnel section at least?

It's far easier to edit an ECTunnel thread to reflect the availability and prices on items rather than creating a new thread each day/week.

^ This x1000000.

I'm curious what necessitated this change? I have never seen a single user request it or complain that EC threads can be edited to reflect changes in price or availability of an item.

[Enderenter]

If you can't edit posts in EC tunnel anymore, people will just make new posts to update what was sold or purchased, and to update prices. Seems like an unnecessary additional step, but if that's what is required now I guess that's fine.

[Nikkanu]

If you can't edit posts in EC tunnel anymore, people will just make new posts to update what was sold or purchased, and to update prices. Seems like an unnecessary additional step, but if that's what is required now I guess that's fine.

It makes it impossible to make 1 thread to consolidate all your items for sale and it's nice to be able to edit a post to indicate an item is sold so you don't keep getting PMs for weeks about an item that has long since been sold.

It just makes the entire forum less convenient to use which will cause people to stop using the forums as much for buying and selling making it even more frustrating to find what you need or sell items.... Especially with how packed EC is with everyone trying to buy/sell what they need before velious launch...

[Nikkanu]

One or two threads consolidating your WTS and WTB threads is infinitely better than people creating new threads for each new item they get for sale or want to buy. But because of this change this is now impossible.

[isiah]

It makes it impossible to make 1 thread to consolidate all your items for sale and it's nice to be able to edit a post to indicate an item is sold so you don't keep getting PMs for weeks about an item that has long since been sold.

It just makes the entire forum less convenient to use which will cause people to stop using the forums as much for buying and selling making it even more frustrating to find what you need or sell items.... Especially with how packed EC is with everyone trying to buy/sell what they need before velious launch...

All of what Nikkanu said, I agree with.

The EC forum with the inability edit, seems to have no reasoning behind it at all.

Can this please be fixed? It's gonna cause a ton of unnecessary spam.

[Portsche]

Can this be reverted for ECTunnel section at least?

It's far easier to edit an ECTunnel thread to reflect the availability and prices on items rather than creating a new thread each day/week.

[Enderenter]

It makes it impossible to make 1 thread to consolidate all your items for sale and it's nice to be able to edit a post to indicate an item is sold so you don't keep getting PMs for weeks about an item that has long since been sold.

It just makes the entire forum less convenient to use which will cause people to stop using the forums as much for buying and selling making it even more frustrating to find what you need or sell items.... Especially with how packed EC is with everyone trying to buy/sell what they need before velious launch...


I agree.

[Thulack]

Not being able to edit posts =/= Classic!!

[Raev]

I mean its clearly possible to copy and paste . . . but I just don't see any benefit to the new system

[Nuggie]

I mean its clearly possible to copy and paste . . . but I just don't see any benefit to the new system

do links copy over through copy and paste?

[Tameth]

do links copy over through copy and paste?

yes, if you quote yourself and copy and paste from the text box...

[Nikkanu]

yes, if you quote yourself and copy and paste from the text box...

Links will copy over this way... but I have noticed there is no way to retain quotes... so I would have to redo all the quotes in my feedback thread every single time...

Dumb change is dumb.

[Zoesha]

Dumb change is dumb.

Didn't realize the forums had to have the same 1999 experience as the servers.

[Clark]

:cool:you cant edit posts in certain forums.

the mods like to laugh when people drunk post and cant edit

[Daldaen]

Really need this fixed in EC Tunnel.

[Nikkanu]

Really need this fixed in EC Tunnel.

^ This.

It takes all of 2 minutes to change editing permissions for individual subforms on vbulletin, if the admins can't figure it out I'd be glad to help.

[paulgiamatti]

Please revert to allow editing in the EC Tunnel forum.

[loramin]

Didn't realize the forums had to have the same 1999 experience as the servers.

I know you're just joking, but seriously there's a reason why this forum (in 2015) still looks like it's from the late 90's. Awhile back Rogean tried to update the forums to a newer version of vBulletin, and the reaction was ... strong ;)

A lot of folks here really do want everything, including the forums, to be as classic as possible.

[Itap]

It was probably implemented so people can't go weeks or months back and edit out there posts. I remember Dredge deleted all his posts in an attempt to avoid a ban.

But yes, ECT should be the exception

[paulgiamatti]

Forum editing was as much a feature of message boards in 1999 as it is today.

[Nikkanu]

Forum editing was as much a feature of message boards in 1999 as it is today.

^

Actually it was more of a feature in 1999 than it is today... at least on p99... trollolol

[Vega]

I'll add my voice to this. It is brutal not to be able to edit a long running thread's OP.

[Nikkanu]

Maybe we should repost this in RnF? Maybe the staff would read it then?

[isiah]

It makes it impossible to make 1 thread to consolidate all your items for sale and it's nice to be able to edit a post to indicate an item is sold so you don't keep getting PMs for weeks about an item that has long since been sold.

It just makes the entire forum less convenient to use which will cause people to stop using the forums as much for buying and selling making it even more frustrating to find what you need or sell items.... Especially with how packed EC is with everyone trying to buy/sell what they need before velious launch...



Bump

[khanable]

please bring editing for EC and Tech forums!

[Daldaen]

please bring editing for EC and Tech forums!

Bump.

[khanable]

gdi I left out the word back and I can't even edit it!

lol:(

[Nikkanu]

I just noticed this:

Threads
You may only have a maximum of 3 active threads during a 48 hour period. This means that you can not create or post in more than 3 of your own threads within that time frame. It is recommended that you consolidate your wares or soliciting into a single thread or category per thread if possible.

Here: EC Forum Rules (Read Before Posting) (http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35747)

How can we consolidate all our wares into a "single thread" if we are unable to edit the contents of the posts in that thread? It seems this change even conflicts with the direction Rogean stated he wanted posting to go in this forum.

:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:

[-Catherin-]

please make exception to EC tunnel, for all reasons already listed

[Bill Tetley]

just make new threads!

[Nikkanu]

just make new threads!

How does that address any of the the problems discussed in this thread? What benefit does that have for anyone? Do you really want hundreds of new threads every day spamming the forums and pushing WTB/WTS posts off the first page much faster? Do you really want to send PMs to dozens of people when you are looking to buy an item because there are dozens of orphaned threads for every item and no real way for buyers to tell if an item is sold or not (at least not without even more spam on the forums)?

If you are against people editing their posts can you be a little more constructive and explain why? What benefit not being able to edit posts will have in your eyes?

I see you've only posted in the EC forums 3 times, the last time was a year ago... if it doesn't affect you in any way and you don't care why even post? Trolling to troll on the Tech Discussion forums?

[Nightbear]

RIP first page of guild threads - really good place to place information

[Sikorsky]

Ya'll will need to bring it up with Rogean, theres nothing I can do here. I'm pretty sure he knows how to manage a forum but thanks for everyone insinuating the staff doesnt know what they're doing ;)

P.S. Enjoy the forum vacation for staff bashing, Coffee.

[Swish]

just make new threads!

That's all fine, til someone searches an item you were selling an item 6 months ago and starts sending PMs. I'm not a regular item trader by any means but I can imagine that if you list new stuff 3-4 times a week that's going to be a lot of PMs for you and frustration for buyers.

Edit button for the EC forum at least would allow "business as usual". And Rogean if you're in the giving mood, how about the forum tags making a comeback in time for Velious? We loved those <3

[Widan]

I'm pretty sure he knows how to manage a forum.

That would appear to be incorrect

[Catashe]

Ya'll will need to bring it up with Rogean, theres nothing I can do here. I'm pretty sure he knows how to manage a forum but thanks for everyone insinuating the staff doesnt know what they're doing ;)

P.S. Enjoy the forum vacation for staff bashing, Coffee.

Oh snap

[Portsche]

That's all fine, til someone searches an item you were selling an item 6 months ago and starts sending PMs. I'm not a regular item trader by any means but I can imagine that if you list new stuff 3-4 times a week that's going to be a lot of PMs for you and frustration for buyers.

Yep, it's already started.

Is there a way to look up all GM, Guide, Forum Moderator usernames? I'd like to foward them all the PMs I get like this.

[Nikkanu]

Yep, it's already started.

Is there a way to look up all GM, Guide, Forum Moderator usernames? I'd like to foward them all the PMs I get like this.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This!

[paulgiamatti]

I'd just like to put forth the suggestion that maybe having editing enabled in the EC Tunnel forum would be more beneficial for everyone - the staff, the server, and the players - than having it removed for whatever reason. I'm assuming there was a valid reason - perhaps someone was exploiting something we're unaware of, perhaps it caused other issues - but at the same time the use of the EC Tunnel forum on Project 1999 is integral to the community and even with editing enabled it was already underused.

This is just one more thing that makes it much more difficult to use, and I think the way it worked with editing enabled was much more in line with what I remember from using a live EverQuest server's trading forum back in '99 - '01. The way the P99 forums worked with editing enabled was flawless - editing didn't bump threads, it allowed for consolidation, and it allowed for real-time updating as players sold and obtained wares. No one was wasting their time sending other players PMs and waiting anxiously for a reply about things that had already been sold. No one was wasting their time replying to these PMs, because they could just simply edit sold items out of their threads when they sold them.

It just seems unlikely that by removing the ability to edit there is some other pressing issue that's being addressed, which happens to be more important than all of the other useful things that were being provided to the playerbase.

[Guide.Chroma]

I'd just like to put forth the suggestion that maybe having editing enabled in the EC Tunnel forum would be more beneficial for everyone - the staff, the server, and the players - than having it removed for whatever reason. I'm assuming there was a valid reason - perhaps someone was exploiting something we're unaware of, perhaps it caused other issues - but at the same time the use of the EC Tunnel forum on Project 1999 is integral to the community and even with editing enabled it was already underused.

This is just one more thing that makes it much more difficult to use, and I think the way it worked with editing enabled was much more in line with what I remember from using a live EverQuest server's trading forum back in '99 - '01. The way the P99 forums worked with editing enabled was flawless - editing didn't bump threads, it allowed for consolidation, and it allowed for real-time updating as players sold and obtained wares. No one was wasting their time sending other players PMs and waiting anxiously for a reply about things that had already been sold. No one was wasting their time replying to these PMs, because they could just simply edit sold items out of their threads when they sold them.

It just seems unlikely that by removing the ability to edit there is some other pressing issue that's being addressed, which happens to be more important than all of the other useful things that were being provided to the playerbase.

It does seem unlikely, but when are complicated issues ever predictable?

All I know is that there is work being done on the forums, but that's about all I've got. Right now it's on a need to know basis, and it seems that nobody needs to know.

[paulgiamatti]

Fair enough :)

But for the sake of argument, the complexity of an issue doesn't really have anything to do with its predictability. But I think I know what you mean. I'm not saying that the issue itself seems unlikely, but rather that it seems unlikely the issue is so very pressing and urgent that it takes precedence over a fundamental forum feature.

[Bill Tetley]

How does that address any of the the problems discussed in this thread? What benefit does that have for anyone? Do you really want hundreds of new threads every day spamming the forums and pushing WTB/WTS posts off the first page much faster? Do you really want to send PMs to dozens of people when you are looking to buy an item because there are dozens of orphaned threads for every item and no real way for buyers to tell if an item is sold or not (at least not without even more spam on the forums)?

If you are against people editing their posts can you be a little more constructive and explain why? What benefit not being able to edit posts will have in your eyes?

I see you've only posted in the EC forums 3 times, the last time was a year ago... if it doesn't affect you in any way and you don't care why even post? Trolling to troll on the Tech Discussion forums?

Are you ok dude? Was just making a suggestion. Good luck with your crusade!

[Zade]

P.S. Enjoy the forum vacation for staff bashing, Coffee.

ban him in game, much more effective

[Giustin]

Just noticed this change.

It would be very handy to be able to edit posts in Guild forums to reflect changes in contact details, recruitment requirements etc which are usually contained in the first post in each guild recruitment thread. Currently most of our detail is out-of-date and needs to be changed.

Is this something being re-considered? .. If not, is there a way to get individual access to edit these posts?

Thanks

G

[Sikorsky]

Yep, it's already started.

Is there a way to look up all GM, Guide, Forum Moderator usernames? I'd like to foward them all the PMs I get like this.

If you do this, you are going to have a bad time.

[Nikkanu]

Are you ok dude? Was just making a suggestion. Good luck with your crusade!

Way to not answer any of the very reasonable questions I posed to you and fail at basic human communication. Thanks for the suggestion, you certainly saved the day.. No one would have thought of that on their own. ;)

[Nikkanu]

If you do this, you are going to have a bad time.

Forwarding PMs sounds like pretty serious business!

[loramin]

Forwarding PMs sounds like pretty serious business!

I think some of the hotter heads should remember three key points:


this is Rogean's house, we're just guests: if eliminating edit functionality saves any staff member even five minutes of effort then Rogean has every right to do so
this thread is on page 6 in the technical forum: clearly this issue matters to the community, and no one (staff or otherwise) can miss that
Rogean isn't some random jerk: he's the guy who built multiple servers, organized a gang of staff and developers, and invested a significant amount of his own time and money just so that thousands of people he's never met could play a 15+ year old game


So appreciate what you have with #1, realize that staff are aware because #2, and trust that they will do the right thing because of point #3 ... even if the right thing turns out to be leaving edit disabled.

[Nikkanu]

I think some of the hotter heads should remember three key points:


this is Rogean's house, we're just guests: if eliminating edit functionality saves any staff member even five minutes of effort then Rogean has every right to do so
this thread is on page 6 in the technical forum: clearly this issue matters to the community, and no one (staff or otherwise) can miss that
Rogean isn't some random jerk: he's the guy who built multiple servers, organized a gang of staff and developers, and invested a significant amount of his own time and money just so that thousands of people he's never met could play a 15+ year old game


So appreciate what you have with #1, realize that staff are aware because #2, and trust that they will do the right thing because of point #3 ... even if the right thing turns out to be leaving edit disabled.

I agree 100%, and immensely appreciate what Rogean and the staff here do and provide to the community free of charge.

With that said I jokingly made a comment making light of someone making weakly veiled threats that I felt were a bit of an over reaction to a comment that was obviously made in good humor and to make a point... and that could just as easily been chuckled at and ignored.

[loramin]

I agree 100%, and immensely appreciate what Rogean and the staff here do and provide to the community free of charge.

With that said I jokingly made a comment making light of someone making weakly veiled threats that I felt were a bit of an over reaction to a comment that was obviously made in good humor and to make a point... and that could just as easily been chuckled at and ignored.

You had the most recent post on the topic, so you were easiest to quote; didn't mean to imply that you were a hothead :)

[Nikkanu]

^

[Orruar]

So it's been like a month now. Any word on this? EC forum is vastly more difficult to use when you can't edit.

And in the meantime, what are the rules for posting new thread updates?

[Daldaen]

Bump. I really would like to edit my posts :(. So many autocorrects on my phone and EC Tunnel is so much more clean with the ability to edit.

[Nikkanu]

Bump for update. Check a box and end the spam in the EC forums.... not rocket science here folks.

[Grimjaw]

my guess is that there's a hidden agenda behind it... higher thread/post counts? nothing else makes sense

[Nikkanu]

Almost 95% of the people that voted on this agree that it editting should return... which never happens in our community... and it's been over a month with no response and no reasoning. It would take clicking 1 checkbox and less than a minute to bring editing back to one subforum. It's pretty safe to say, at least in this case, that the staff doesn't really give a shit what the playerbase wants and has their own reasons for wanting to create tons of extra spammy posts so I guess it's safe to assume the rules that can'r realistically be followed are no longer in place. Why not at least re-write the EC forum rules in such a way that they at least make sense?

[Thulack]

Almost 95% of the people that voted on this agree that it editting should return... which never happens in our community... and it's been over a month with no response and no reasoning. It would take clicking 1 checkbox and less than a minute to bring editing back to one subforum. It's pretty safe to say, at least in this case, that the staff doesn't really give a shit what the playerbase wants and has their own reasons for wanting to create tons of extra spammy posts so I guess it's safe to assume the rules that can'r realistically be followed are no longer in place. Why not at least re-write the EC forum rules in such a way that they at least make sense?

They are seeing how far they can push us. Small little changes over time. Til BAM!!

[Savok]

Still looking to edit my UI thread because of new download links.

Please!

[t3kn34k]

Did they ever change this back or did it get swept under the rug? Seems like a very arbitrary thing to change in the first place and very annoying.

[Pyrocat]

Please make posts editable in EC Tunnel and the Library!

[Portasaurus]

bump

[Artaenc]

It was recently changed to a 30 minute window.

Can we at least edit our recruiting threads? I'd hate to make a new thread every time I have to change something for our guild recruitment. Maybe only allow specified people to edit after 30 minutes on that forum?

[Pescador]

bump, hopefully we can edit EC tunnel posts instead of adding millions of replies to update them :)