NASA's Little Secret

[Scrooge]

Listen to this interview before jumping to conclusions about the title of the video.

NASA Insider Exposes the Flat Earth! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQt9vq3sdtQ)

Matthew Boylan, former NASA operational graphics manager, worked for years creating photo-realistic computer graphics for NASA. Now a vocal Flat-Earther, Boylan claims that NASA’s sole reason for existence is to propagandize the public and promote this false ball-Earth heliocentric worldview. Originally recruited because of his skills and reputation as a hyper-realist multi-media artist, he started doing projects like photoshopping various lighting and atmospheric effects onto images of Earth, the Moon, Jupiter, Europa, etc. Having proved himself, and wanting to promote him to do more classified work, a room of NASA higher-ups during a party, as a type of initiatory-rite, explained to him and a few others in detail the reality of the Geocentric Flat-Earth model and how they have fooled the entire world!

Refusing to be a part of their deception, Boylan cut his ties to NASA, began researching the Flat-Earth for himself, and has recently become a powerful voice on the lecture circuit and the internet exposing NASA and their heliocentric hoax. In his comedic lectures he speaks candidly and eloquently about how simple it is using nothing more than Adobe Photoshop and a video editor to create any and every type of image NASA purports to be “receiving from the Hubble telescope.” He points out how in most ball-Earth videos lazy NASA graphics workers don’t even bother changing cloud structures in ordinary or time-lapse footage; the same shape, color and condition cloud cover often stays completely unchanged for 24 hour periods and longer! Boylan states unequivocally that every picture and video of the ball-Earth, all the Moon/Mars landings, the existence of orbiting satellites, space stations, and all Hubble images are hoaxed. He even quips anecdotes about how NASA officials and astro-nots privy to the Flat-Earth truth would laugh hysterically at the brain-washed zombie public who unquestioningly believe their televisions.

https://www.youtube.com/user/TheNASAchannel

http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2015/01/flat-earth-comedy.html

Enjoy the bitter taste of truth!

[Grimjaw]

pity reply

[pharmakos]

if the earth really is flat, then every single international airline pilot is in on the conspiracy, not just NASA.

[Scrooge]

Keep an open mind, even if it sounds crazy, hear them people out first.

Consider how many inventions, and improvements to those inventions done over the past 20 years, would sound next to impossible to someone from 50 years ago.

[SamwiseRed]

lol

[pharmakos]

i did, in fact, look more into this Boylan guy. i found something that he wrote:

I have hard evidence the earth is flat and infinite, that everyone 's been lied to and brainwashed. The picture of the earth from space, they claim they took on Apollo 11 and other missions to the looney surface, was to prove Copernicus, that the earth is a ball and the sun is fixed. Fixed like a cat they say. For over 450 years they repeated it , the public unassuming ,accepted it without proof, without anyone reaching even crossing either North or South POLE without the invention the airplane , or mere air ballon , just intellectually hyperbole and stuffy equations , and the invisible inconclusive force of gravity. It would not be until 400 years after saying it was a ball a human would claim to craft a vessel to reach high enough to see finally if it was. And If it wasn't after all that, do you really think they would tell you? Even the south pole had not been fully crossed and they would claim to set foot on the moon. The photo of the earth taken from that mission and all others to the moon are in my expert, humble opinion obviously, certifiably , paintings. Regardless, how would you know ? You've never and never will see it from that POV. And no, richard branson's 1st class space travel won't happen it will not be high enough either, and will never get off the ground to the masses. Only the fiat fat rosy rich club of society sirs and heritage handlers will be able to ride that herring in the sky.

Antarctica is the beginning of a new world, an endless ice sheet. Beyond which are other massive sections like the one we are in here that we call earth, it is round as we are only in a round section, going around and around in circles . No commercial air crafts skip a shortcut under the south pole to get from South America to say Australia or Africa faster , like some do over the north cap. The UN flag is legal tender, it is not a ball, it is the real legal shape of the real estate you call earth you live on and, in . You are in a section of a much larger surface . The Sun is rotating around the magnetic north and the conduction between this sinking rock and the sun is what spins it and its velocity at varying speeds through out the seasons. The endless wasteland of ice called the south pole is that last white rung on the UN flag . The South pole is in fact 360 degrees around us . Compasses , energy, physics all work in this model but it is bigger, more stable and inertia is a product of heat rising and then stopping as it meets another dimension , cold , which is descending. We are between 2 temperature fields, it gets colder as we go higher , the cold gaseous state above and the hot liquid state is below us: lava magma, the earth's furnace below . In the middle of these 2 dimensions is life , where we exist and subsist . The two thrust onto each other in the universe and their meeting creates the galactic plate, or the floor of the universe. The question ought not be what time or what place is it but rather, what dimension are we , or what dimensions are we in between? As everything is in between even sleeping versus awake state. These geothermal sections of continental life are endless across the plate , like petri dishes of social and biological engineering, perhaps by aliens delegated through human monarchs, or just an elite that have stopped the divulgation of all new aquisitions of land mass to the present earthly public. Herein the lunar missions all land of earth has been discovered don't go looking beyond the photo. Why tell the slaves there's more land if every time we send them there to new land they are simply to revolt like the Americans did ? What would happen to the markets if abundance of everything due to more land mass and soil was revealed? Scarcity would no longer rule the economies and the rich would be valueless. Scarcity root word being , scare. The stars you see at night all around , are enclosing very slowly on us . Some fall and whither away diminishing as they approach the massive radiation belt we call the Van Allen belt or ionosphere under Tesla , other stars are huge and enter into a geo-conductive relationship with larger submerging magnetic rocks , which were once meteors. These meteors have been thrust from the cold dimension by the descending weight-force of cold pressure hurtling the rock toward the plate. They pierce the plate melting it on impact . They float above the magma underneath resting in the ice and through it's magnetized field on Van Allen entry attracts the magma toward its center in a geothermal convection. Each of these rocks are now sinking poles without stars . They can be completely subsumed unless a star sun hurtles down from space inward toward the plate. As these stars, suns, hurtle inward and pass a sinking magnetized rock, they enter a geo-magnetic orbital relationship with the submerging magnetized rock thus creating a northern pole and lifting the rock back up from its sinking trajectory into the magma below. As this sun rotates around it at approximately 500 - 1000 km in altitude it begins to cast a path of light on the area around the magnetic rock creating a flashlight affect as it rotates in a magnetic orbit around the pole , thus day on one side and night on the other , the time depending on the point of which the star sun will be as it hovers in its rotational path around the magnetic sinking rock. Orbital convection of geothermal attraction is produced and a higher charge of ground level electricity melts the top layer of ice thrusted apart and upward by the impact releasing volcanic activity from below. Exposed to the gaseous upper cold dimension the magma hardens and releases Carbon Dioxide , hydrogen , and every other building block of life that is trapped throughout the ice shelf of the infinitely expanding galactic firmament and the magma composites below. The magma hardens into tectonic plates. Within these plates will be the residue of the melted ice forming our oceans. Therefore all stars rotate around other pockets of earth-like sections across this infinite flat plane. Our earth section rests upon it. If you don't believe me look at the UN flag, that's the shape of your earth . So technically, they are telling you in your face legally, and aren't lying. You are simply in a section folks of a much bigger piece of real estate.

i also found out that he wasn't an ex-NASA scientist or astronaut or anything -- he just did some freelance artist work for them once.

[Sikorsky]

if the earth really is flat, then every single international airline pilot is in on the conspiracy, not just NASA.

[Ahldagor]

if the earth really is flat, then every single international airline pilot is in on the conspiracy, not just NASA.

Sea navigators too.

[Orruar]

Sea navigators too.

My god, this conspiracy is absolutely massive. We need to tell the world.

[Faywind]

http://i.imgur.com/ys4H5x9.gif

[Wooptie]

and why don't chemtrails stick around on a clear sky day

[SamwiseRed]

why are naked women better to look at than naked men?

[pharmakos]

fucking spheres, how do they work?

[citizen1080]

Whatever you are on, I am sure Pharmakos wants some of it too.

[FoxxHound]

why are naked women better to look at than naked men?

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=359412257599568

[Jimmybones]

Listen to this interview before jumping to conclusions about the title of the video.

NASA Insider Exposes the Flat Earth! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQt9vq3sdtQ)



https://www.youtube.com/user/TheNASAchannel

http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2015/01/flat-earth-comedy.html

Enjoy the bitter taste of truth!


http://media0.giphy.com/media/Rhhr8D5mKSX7O/giphy.gif

[Merekai]

This thread = Ignorance

[Nibblewitz]

Make a positive claim? Back it up with evidence.
http://i.imgur.com/GiKrUCq.gif

[Madbad]

ATWA

Official site for the Charles Manson Truth (http://www.mansondirect.com/)

[Bardalicious]

https://youtu.be/cQt9vq3sdtQ?t=110

"...It's just this weird fetish I've always had since I was very young - when you would look at an image, I would have a photo next to the image - and I'd really get off on confusing people whether they could just like- and I'd say which one is the photo? And I would GET OFF, it's like this freaky fetish I've always had, watching peoples eyes really scramble.."

Yeah, this guy sounds totally credible outright stating that he'd get his jollies off on confusing people. Sort of like confusing a bunch of half-baked morons that don't understand grade-school level science?

P.S. OP is the same guy that wanted us to believe in reptilian overlords because of this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rl12afrfLD8

[Clark]

Make a positive claim? Back it up with evidence.
http://i.imgur.com/GiKrUCq.gif

:D

[scythic]

I do believe Norrath is flat though

[Calibretto]

Preposterous. Trigonometry and Calculus are part of the conspiracy too. Fucking boggle.

[Scrooge]

The Flat Earth Comedy Special (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nk-i1k-eRcE)

NASA's Fake Ball Earth vs The True Flat Earth (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHwfVn4xZFY) (have a look at about 10:23, that was the first time the Apollo space program supposedly filmed Earth from space)

Don't be afraid of the truth!

[Scrooge]

FLAT EARTH Clues Introduction (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8-YdgU-CF4&list=PLltxIX4B8_URNUzDE2sXctnUAEXgEDDGn&index=1)

Excellent 12-part series for you people hearing about this for the first time; it explains alot of your questions, from the origins of the Earth Sphere idea to modern-era conclusions, as well as explaining flight routes, with visual aid.

[pharmakos]

watched from 10:23 on that video like you said. if there indeed is some sort of a hoax that is revealed by that straight diagonal shadow over earth, then why wouldn't you default to "the NASA program was a hoax used to boost patriotism during the Cold War" rather than "the earth must be flat!!!!"

[PDX0621]

Whatever happened to that guy with the thread about the morphing lizard people infiltrating all facets of the government/society?

[Visual]

Nibiru is real maaaaaaaaan

[MrSparkle001]

Whatever happened to that guy with the thread about the morphing lizard people infiltrating all facets of the government/society?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqRuiqtoGjI

[maskedmelon]

Inspiring. There is simply no other word for this...

[dafier]

Sea navigators too.

Seamen! They LIE! They really do swim through ANYTHING! Even flat surfaces!

[Wrench]

https://youtu.be/cQt9vq3sdtQ?t=110

"...It's just this weird fetish I've always had since I was very young - when you would look at an image, I would have a photo next to the image - and I'd really get off on confusing people whether they could just like- and I'd say which one is the photo? And I would GET OFF, it's like this freaky fetish I've always had, watching peoples eyes really scramble.."

Yeah, this guy sounds totally credible outright stating that he'd get his jollies off on confusing people. Sort of like confusing a bunch of half-baked morons that don't understand grade-school level science?

P.S. OP is the same guy that wanted us to believe in reptilian overlords because of this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rl12afrfLD8

lol i love this guys threads

i cant tell if theyre just a really good troll or he really is batshit crazy

[Ahldagor]

FLAT EARTH Clues Introduction (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8-YdgU-CF4&list=PLltxIX4B8_URNUzDE2sXctnUAEXgEDDGn&index=1)

Excellent 12-part series for you people hearing about this for the first time; it explains alot of your questions, from the origins of the Earth Sphere idea to modern-era conclusions, as well as explaining flight routes, with visual aid.

lol, the ancient greeks knew it was a sphere and almost had the diameter precisely calculated. it wasn't a prominent belief that the earth was flat.

[Scrooge]

This thread is more of an experiment, to see how many of you are truly brainwashed beyond repair, as well as whether anyone here actually questions all the garbage the governments spin through their 'mainstream media', etc.

Can't anyone here seriously debunk these videos I posted the links for in this thread?

I don't really expect any intelligent replies from these forums, I realized that it was futile along time ago, but every once in a while there is a smart person (or two) on the other end whose inputs I do look forward to!

Check the videos in these two posts, and let me know what you think - I always look forward to replies by those of you willing to discuss this topic, whether you agree with it or not.

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1854477&postcount=24
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1854504&postcount=25

As for Bardalicious' poor efforts to troll; I never posted any links to that Justin Bieber video, but seeing as how you did - speaks volumes about your own ignorance on that subject.

[Scrooge]

watched from 10:23 on that video like you said. if there indeed is some sort of a hoax that is revealed by that straight diagonal shadow over earth, then why wouldn't you default to "the NASA program was a hoax used to boost patriotism during the Cold War" rather than "the earth must be flat!!!!"

Because there is MUCH more to this whole thing, than just the Apollo Space Program being a total scam.

This has been THE biggest coverup by the governments for centuries, it has alot to do with convincing people that there are other galaxies, and ETs and UFOs being from "outer space," etc. There is another big reason for all the lies, it has something to do with the Apollo 11 astronauts who apparently landed on the Moon in 1969, yet soon as they came back to Earth they resigned shortly after, interesting way for someone to act after accomplishing one of the biggest feats in human history, isn't it?

It's all connected, and if the people reading my posts and actually watching the videos, I'd have a much easier time explaining all the details further.

Not to mention the fact that at about 80,000 ft. up in the sky, there is an invisible ceiling, and nothing (including Atomic bombs) can penetrate it. There is also a point underground beyond which no amount of advanced drilling machinery can go beyond. - The Flat Earth Comedy Special (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nk-i1k-eRcE) goes into this at about 18min.

Watch the "Flat Earth Clues (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8-YdgU-CF4&list=PLltxIX4B8_URNUzDE2sXctnUAEXgEDDGn&index=1)" series I posted on page 3, it will explain the big picture much better than I can - let me know what you think afterwards!

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The United Nations Flag = the real Map of our Flat Earth for those of you who missed that.

I wasn't going to post any images to let you people research it yourselves but, you talked me into it!

http://www.endalldisease.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Flat-Earth-UN-Symbol-EndAllDisease.png

[pharmakos]

i wonder how much money the authors of flat earth books make off of insane chumps.

i wonder, if you averaged it out, if it pays more per hour than RMTing plat.

[myriverse]

If the Earth weren't round you could see further than just 11 miles on a clear day.

[Pyrion]

I am not sure if OP is serious, i mean we are in the 21st century. GPS-satelites (circling the earth btw.) make it possible to know exactly where you are.

There must be a conspiracy theorist gene. The OP might be totally honest but really helpless.

Did you know that Norrath is the "real" reality? Whenever you think you log off, you are really logging IN.

[maskedmelon]

Not to mention the fact that at about 80,000 ft. up in the sky, there is an invisible

I L'dOL for reals here. This is great. I will watch your videos when I get home, but you ought to consider adding a divine spin on this, it would be more profitable as a religion, plus cult leaders get a lot of chicks. Serious....

[Zadrian]

https://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mas6yug5YT1rvk0h5o1_500.gif

[Lojik]

Mad props to op...either he's doing a great job trolling or on some fucking awesome drugs

[lethdar]

Obvious troll, or lumie has returned to the forums

[Scrooge]

Watch them videos for their entertainment value if nothing else, I have!

I didn't make this thread to make believers out of you, I made it to see how many of you would automatically dismiss it (like you've been taught to do all your lives by the education system(s) for instance,) or question the mainstream science and this topic that has spawned actual evidence, and compare it to what we think we already know.

I want someone here to debunk these videos, I said it in my earlier posts, and I'm saying it still.

[Whirled]

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Frlv.zcache.co.uk%2Fthe_sarcasm_is_ strong_with_this_one_button-r50d0584159a54878a0a84e0368ac4f87_x7j3i_8byvr_512. jpg&f=1

[Glenzig]

Watch them videos for their entertainment value if nothing else, I have!

I didn't make this thread to make believers out of you, I made it to see how many of you would automatically dismiss it (like you've been taught to do all your lives by the education system(s) for instance,) or question the mainstream science and this topic that has spawned actual evidence, and compare it to what we think we already know.

I want someone here to debunk these videos, I said it in my earlier posts, and I'm saying it still.

I haven't watched the vids yet, since I'm at work. But a few questions come to mind right off the bat.
1. How do you explain the horizon if the earth is actually flat, and not round.
2. How do you explain the rising and setting of the sun if the earth is flat?
3. If it is 12:00 p.m. and fully day time in America, why is it night time in China?
4. What holds all the water in?
5. How is it possible to travel around the world in one direction?
6. By "flat" do you really mean cylindrical? Because the earth would still have to be many, many miles thick.
7. How thick is the earth if it is indeed flat and not round?

Those are just the first 7 questions that popped into my head. I'll try to watch the videos, mainly because I'm sure they will be hilarious, and I'm sure ill have many many more questions than answers after I do.
I await your answers to the 7 questions.

[citizen1080]

http://174.142.61.111/forum/files/a-challenger-appears-nignog_178.png

[Thulack]

The better question is...Who the fuck cares if the world is Flat, round, Obtuse, Rectangular or a freaking triangle? We all know by now that the government and bodies of power lie to the general public about things.

[Glenzig]

The better question is...Who the fuck cares if the world is Flat, round, Obtuse, Rectangular or a freaking triangle? We all know by now that the government and bodies of power lie to the general public about things.

Well that is an obvious truth. But if you try to use a lie (the earth is flat) to convince people of a truth (the government lies and NASA does some shady stuff), then the result will be bad. Mmmmkay.

[mgellan]

Make sure your mind isn't so open your brain falls out.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence
-- Carl Sagan

-- Mg

[Glenzig]

Make sure your mind isn't so open your brain falls out.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence
-- Carl Sagan

-- Mg

Carl Sagan was flat!

[jarshale]

neone who actually thinks the earth is round and rotates needs to take a step back and think about how indoctrinated into the illuminati system they are. once u open ur eyes to the truth u will understand. the signs are all around you but obama doesn't want u to kno.

[Faywind]

Watch them videos for their entertainment value if nothing else, I have!

I didn't make this thread to make believers out of you, I made it to see how many of you would automatically dismiss it (like you've been taught to do all your lives by the education system(s) for instance,) or question the mainstream science and this topic that has spawned actual evidence, and compare it to what we think we already know.

I want someone here to debunk these videos, I said it in my earlier posts, and I'm saying it still.

Those videos are some comedy gold! Thanks for this, I haven't laughed so hard in ages :D

[Scrooge]

I haven't watched the vids yet, since I'm at work. But a few questions come to mind right off the bat.
1. How do you explain the horizon if the earth is actually flat, and not round.
2. How do you explain the rising and setting of the sun if the earth is flat?
3. If it is 12:00 p.m. and fully day time in America, why is it night time in China?
4. What holds all the water in?
5. How is it possible to travel around the world in one direction?
6. By "flat" do you really mean cylindrical? Because the earth would still have to be many, many miles thick.
7. How thick is the earth if it is indeed flat and not round?

Those are just the first 7 questions that popped into my head. I'll try to watch the videos, mainly because I'm sure they will be hilarious, and I'm sure ill have many many more questions than answers after I do.
I await your answers to the 7 questions.

Those are all good questions, and the videos cover just about every one of them. Check out the ones I posted on pages 3 and 4; specifically post #s 24, 25, and 35! I'd add all the additional info on the first post but it won't let me edit like it used to, so you'll have to look it up manually.

I can answer #2 & #3 right now, the Sun & the Moon rotate around the North Pole as you see it on the image below, the Moon actually rotates slower than the Sun. There is no such thing as a "South Pole," and Antarctica is the wall of ice that surrounds the ocean and continents. If the Flat Earth topic is really nonsense, then why does the United Nations flag show the Flat Earth map?

Watch the 'Flat Earth Clues' series first, its a set of 12 videos, each one being about 10min long.

I've linked the UN Flag comparison to the 'Flat Earth Map' on page 4 but I'll link it again here:


The United Nations Flag = the real Map of our Flat Earth for those of you who missed that.

I wasn't going to post any images to let you people research it yourselves but, you talked me into it!

http://www.endalldisease.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Flat-Earth-UN-Symbol-EndAllDisease.png

Those videos don't just talk about this stuff, they provide visual evidence to pretty much any questions you may have, I didn't take it very seriously at first either - but seeing as how our Governments lie to the public left and right, on just about anything. I took some interest in this topic and several others, that are like jigsaw pieces that fit together to show the big picture.

I'll make a separate thread for the other topics some time soon, that will make you question the entire foundation of our 'world history,' if enough people will take interest in the Flat Earth subject.

I'm adding one more video on NASA and their lies, the first 30 seconds will make you laugh! It goes like this: "NASA recently sent a machine to the International Space Station, it converts URINE into DRINKING WATER, it was in development for 10 years!" NASA Fail Compilation (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msY3xc8pVLE)

[Portasaurus]

pizza is flat

flat planet = pizza planet

I'm fine with this

[Big_Japan]

Those are all good questions, and the videos cover just about every one of them. Check out the ones I posted on pages 3 and 4; specifically post #s 24, 25, and 35! I'd add all the additional info on the first post but it won't let me edit like it used to, so you'll have to look it up manually.

I can answer #2 & #3 right now, the Sun & the Moon rotate around the North Pole as you see it on the image below, the Moon actually rotates slower than the Sun. There is no such thing as a "South Pole," and Antarctica is the wall of ice that surrounds the ocean and continents. If the Flat Earth topic is really nonsense, then why does the United Nations flag show the Flat Earth map?

Watch the 'Flat Earth Clues' series first, its a set of 12 videos, each one being about 10min long.

I've linked the UN Flag comparison to the 'Flat Earth Map' on page 4 but I'll link it again here:



Those videos don't just talk about this stuff, they provide visual evidence to pretty much any questions you may have, I didn't take it very seriously at first either - but seeing as how our Governments lie to the public left and right, on just about anything. I took some interest in this topic and several others, that are like jigsaw pieces that fit together to show the big picture.

I'll make a separate thread for the other topics some time soon, that will make you question the entire foundation of our 'world history,' if enough people will take interest in the Flat Earth subject.

I'm adding one more video on NASA and their lies, the first 30 seconds will make you laugh! It goes like this: "NASA recently sent a machine to the International Space Station, it converts URINE into DRINKING WATER, it was in development for 10 years!" NASA Fail Compilation (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msY3xc8pVLE)

You're 1/4 of the way there friend.

I am a Knower of 4 corner simultaneous 24 hour Days that occur within a single 4 corner rotation of Earth.

Americans are actually RETARDED from Religious Academia taught ONEism -upon an Earth of opposite poles, covered by MamaHole and Papa Pole pulsating opposite sexes.The ONEist educated with their flawed 1 eye perspective (opposite eyes overlay) Cyclops mentality, inflicts static non pulsating logos as a fictitious queer same sex transformation.

Until you can tear and burn the bible to escape the EVIL ONE, it will be impossible for your educated stupid brain to know that 4 different corner harmonic 24 hour Days rotate simultaneously within a single 4 quadrant rotation of a squared equator and cubed Earth. The Solar system, the Universe, the Earth and all humans are composed of + 0 - antipodes, and equal to nothing if added as a ONE or Entity. All Creation occurs between Opposites.

[jarshale]

You're 1/4 of the way there friend.

I am a Knower of 4 corner simultaneous 24 hour Days that occur within a single 4 corner rotation of Earth.

Americans are actually RETARDED from Religious Academia taught ONEism -upon an Earth of opposite poles, covered by MamaHole and Papa Pole pulsating opposite sexes.The ONEist educated with their flawed 1 eye perspective (opposite eyes overlay) Cyclops mentality, inflicts static non pulsating logos as a fictitious queer same sex transformation.

Until you can tear and burn the bible to escape the EVIL ONE, it will be impossible for your educated stupid brain to know that 4 different corner harmonic 24 hour Days rotate simultaneously within a single 4 quadrant rotation of a squared equator and cubed Earth. The Solar system, the Universe, the Earth and all humans are composed of + 0 - antipodes, and equal to nothing if added as a ONE or Entity. All Creation occurs between Opposites.

Life is as secure as existing on a razor edge.
Apply reverse engineering to know creation.
Humans are educated stupid Word Animals,
creating a Word God and Word World, thus
inflicting singularity as mange upon Nature.
Singularity educators are unfit to even live.
Wisdom is a Cubic measure of Knowledge.
Via Cubic Wisdom, I am the wisest human.

[Rararboker]

Tbh I watched these videos over the past few weeks. If nothing else it is worth watching to hear what this guy has to say. And unless you're an astronaut who has gone to space and seen with your own eyes that the Earth is round then there isn't much "proof". There is a ton of theories but those aren't proof.

One of the guys films from sea level and aims his camera at a downtown Manhattan 22 miles from his location. Even though there should be a 216~ foot drop due to the curvature of the earth, there isn't.

Not saying I believe either theory but I am realistic enough to realize they are both theories. Then there is the footage of Admiral Byrd talking about his expedition to the South Pole which just makes all of it even more confusing.

Honestly they are definitely worth watching if you have a skeptical outlook. If your just a believer then it is probably not a good idea. (believer being someone who believes things, regardless of proofs)

All it would take to disprove all of it is non stop footage of a camera in space pointing at Earth and doing a full 360 degree turn. That is all it would take but I haven't seen anything like that.

[citizen1080]

Tbh I watched these videos over the past few weeks. If nothing else it is worth watching to hear what this guy has to say. And unless you're an astronaut who has gone to space and seen with your own eyes that the Earth is round then there isn't much "proof". There is a ton of theories but those aren't proof.

One of the guys films from sea level and aims his camera at a downtown Manhattan 22 miles from his location. Even though there should be a 216~ foot drop due to the curvature of the earth, there isn't.

Not saying I believe either theory but I am realistic enough to realize they are both theories. Then there is the footage of Admiral Byrd talking about his expedition to the South Pole which just makes all of it even more confusing.

Honestly they are definitely worth watching if you have a skeptical outlook. If your just a believer then it is probably not a good idea. (believer being someone who believes things, regardless of proofs)

All it would take to disprove all of it is non stop footage of a camera in space pointing at Earth and doing a full 360 degree turn. That is all it would take but I haven't seen anything like that.

Al Gore to the rescue, he is super cereal

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Space_Climate_Observatory

Deep Space Climate Observatory (DSCOVR) (formerly known as Triana, unofficially known as GoreSat[3]) is a NOAA Earth observation and space weather satellite launched by SpaceX on a Falcon 9 launch vehicle on 11 February 2015 from Cape Canaveral.[4]

It was originally developed as a NASA satellite proposed in 1998 by then-Vice President Al Gore for the purpose of Earth observation. It is intended to be positioned at the Sun-Earth L1 Lagrangian point, 1,500,000 km (930,000 mi) from Earth, to monitor variable solar wind condition, provide early warning of approaching coronal mass ejections and observe phenomena on Earth including changes in ozone, aerosols, dust and volcanic ash, cloud height, vegetation cover and climate. At this location it will have a continuous view of the Sun and the sunlit side of the Earth. The satellite is planned to orbit the Sun-Earth L1 point in a six-month period, with a spacecraft-Earth-Sun angle varying from 4 to 15 degrees.[5] It will take full-Earth pictures about every two hours and be able to process them faster than other Earth observation satellites.[6]

DSCOVR has an expected arrival at L1 around the beginning of June 2015.[7]

[Glenzig]

Those are all good questions, and the videos cover just about every one of them. Check out the ones I posted on pages 3 and 4; specifically post #s 24, 25, and 35! I'd add all the additional info on the first post but it won't let me edit like it used to, so you'll have to look it up manually.

I can answer #2 & #3 right now, the Sun & the Moon rotate around the North Pole as you see it on the image below, the Moon actually rotates slower than the Sun. There is no such thing as a "South Pole," and Antarctica is the wall of ice that surrounds the ocean and continents. If the Flat Earth topic is really nonsense, then why does the United Nations flag show the Flat Earth map?

Watch the 'Flat Earth Clues' series first, its a set of 12 videos, each one being about 10min long.

I've linked the UN Flag comparison to the 'Flat Earth Map' on page 4 but I'll link it again here:



Those videos don't just talk about this stuff, they provide visual evidence to pretty much any questions you may have, I didn't take it very seriously at first either - but seeing as how our Governments lie to the public left and right, on just about anything. I took some interest in this topic and several others, that are like jigsaw pieces that fit together to show the big picture.

I'll make a separate thread for the other topics some time soon, that will make you question the entire foundation of our 'world history,' if enough people will take interest in the Flat Earth subject.

I'm adding one more video on NASA and their lies, the first 30 seconds will make you laugh! It goes like this: "NASA recently sent a machine to the International Space Station, it converts URINE into DRINKING WATER, it was in development for 10 years!" NASA Fail Compilation (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msY3xc8pVLE)

So the sun and moon orbit around the north pole? Why is it so bitterly cold there then? Why is it consistently warmer at the equator than any other portion of earth? If the earth is flat and the sun rotates around the north pole, how does this work with a 24 hour day? Again, why would one side of the world be light and the other dark? Does the earth rotate at all or is it completely fixed? What would you suggest as a 2 dimensional flag design that has to depict a 3 dimensional spherical object? The flag does not serve as concrete evidence of anything more than a flag.
Yes NASA and virtually every other government organization lies to people constantly. How does that fact have anything to do with the shape of the earth? And yes I have watched 3 entire videos and part of a 4th. I can't find any more compelling argument in any of them other than "NASA lies about stuff so the earth is flat". There isn't any explanation of how any of the physics of a flat earth would work and how we see that line up with reality. So far all I'm seeing is very weak conjecture, at best.

[Glenzig]

pizza is flat

flat planet = pizza planet

I'm fine with this

Ninja turtles eat pizza. Ninja turtles are reptiles. Reptiles rule the world. The world will be devoured by our reptile overlords. Wake up people!!!

[-TK-]

So the sun and moon orbit around the north pole? Why is it so bitterly cold there then? Why is it consistently warmer at the equator than any other portion of earth? If the earth is flat and the sun rotates around the north pole, how does this work with a 24 hour day? Again, why would one side of the world be light and the other dark? Does the earth rotate at all or is it completely fixed? What would you suggest as a 2 dimensional flag design that has to depict a 3 dimensional spherical object? The flag does not serve as concrete evidence of anything more than a flag.
Yes NASA and virtually every other government organization lies to people constantly. How does that fact have anything to do with the shape of the earth? And yes I have watched 3 entire videos and part of a 4th. I can't find any more compelling argument in any of them other than "NASA lies about stuff so the earth is flat". There isn't any explanation of how any of the physics of a flat earth would work and how we see that line up with reality. So far all I'm seeing is very weak conjecture, at best.

It's healthy to question information that is spoon fed to you, but I'm with you here, and there are a few other questions I could pose that would challenge the theory as well. I don't think anyone here believes the government and it's affiliates don't lie to the people, but better to not ask questions that actually make sense. The answers we get will become more and more obscure. The UN flag thing really made me laugh, though. The Japanese represent the sun as being red. Is the visible white light of the sun really just an illusion created by the governments of the world as well? Because, you know, graphic artists never manipulate images to fit their desired end and, well, it's on a flag, it must be real. Did we go to the moon, hell if I know for sure, but most likely. Can we go into space and put satellites in orbit, sure as hell we can. I know that because I work with/for the people that do it. And yes, the Earth is probably round along with all the other major bodies in our solar system. If it's not it doesn't matter because the math we use works. Physics > Orbital Mechanics > Conspiracy Theories. The P99 community never fails to amuse.

Disclaimer: Believe nothing I say. I receive your hard earned tax dollars in exchange for my lies and am merely a government shill sent to the P99 forums to propagate the lies of the great oligarchy.

[citizen1080]

"NASA lies about stuff so the earth is flat".

[Scrooge]

Tbh I watched these videos over the past few weeks. If nothing else it is worth watching to hear what this guy has to say. And unless you're an astronaut who has gone to space and seen with your own eyes that the Earth is round then there isn't much "proof". There is a ton of theories but those aren't proof.

One of the guys films from sea level and aims his camera at a downtown Manhattan 22 miles from his location. Even though there should be a 216~ foot drop due to the curvature of the earth, there isn't.

Not saying I believe either theory but I am realistic enough to realize they are both theories. Then there is the footage of Admiral Byrd talking about his expedition to the South Pole which just makes all of it even more confusing.

Honestly they are definitely worth watching if you have a skeptical outlook. If your just a believer then it is probably not a good idea. (believer being someone who believes things, regardless of proofs)

All it would take to disprove all of it is non stop footage of a camera in space pointing at Earth and doing a full 360 degree turn. That is all it would take but I haven't seen anything like that.

Excellent post, finally someone thinking with an open mind!

What's quite funny here is that 90+% of the people replying to this thread, have already made up their minds about the subject matter, before even looking at any evidence whatsoever.

People are so used to believing outright, whatever the governments and/or the mainstream media and mainstream sciences tell us, that they don't even question any of it, and when there's any possible proof that the opposite may be true - they won't even give a benefit of the doubt.

I'm adding a couple of recently-made videos here; the first one is an interview with visual aid by a skeptic radio host, interviewing Eric Dubay (he runs one of the best YT channels on the subject & has also written a book on it,) and the second talks about gravity and density in relation to the 'Flat Earth.'

The Flat Earth Masonic Matrix Manipulators (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R77j9rUuky4) & gravity is density on flat earth (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_j_SUAwafU)

Enjoy, I look forward to your replies on them and the other videos from pages 3 & 4!

---Posting videos from previous replies since I cannot edit the OP & most people don't even see them---

The Flat Earth Comedy Special (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nk-i1k-eRcE)

NASA's Fake Ball Earth vs The True Flat Earth (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHwfVn4xZFY) (have a look at about 10:23, that was the first time the Apollo space program supposedly filmed Earth from space)


FLAT EARTH Clues (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8-YdgU-CF4&list=PLltxIX4B8_URNUzDE2sXctnUAEXgEDDGn&index=1)

A 12-part series (10-15min each) for you people hearing about this for the first time; it explains alot of your questions, from the origins of the Earth Sphere idea to modern-era conclusions, as well as explaining flight routes, with visual aid.


I'm adding one more video on NASA and their lies, the first 30 seconds will make you laugh! It goes like this: "NASA recently sent a machine to the International Space Station, it converts URINE into DRINKING WATER, it was in development for 10 years!" NASA Fail Compilation (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msY3xc8pVLE)


Watch them videos for their entertainment value if nothing else, I have!

I didn't make this thread to make believers out of you, I made it to see how many of you would automatically dismiss it (like you've been taught to do all your lives by the education system(s) for instance,) or question the mainstream science and this topic that has spawned actual evidence, and compare it to what we think we already know.

I want someone here to debunk these videos, I said it in my earlier posts, and I'm saying it still.

[Rararboker]

Well the guys theory is pretty interesting. If his theory is correct then the moon/sun are just illusions on a giant screen basically. If you watched the videos all those questions are covered because, if he didn't, it would be a huge hole in his whole outlook and make it pretty hard to listen to any of it. Asking the questions here, with a tone of derision no less, just shows you didn't take the time to listen to any of it. Makes you look like you have a close minded outlook, like a catholic.

They even talk about how/why it is covered up. People at NASA actually do believe in what they are doing. They are just so compartmentalized that there is no way for them to ever realize they are basically wasting their time playing with simulators. The main reason for a cover-up is the implications. If we aren't a planet in a nearly infinite universe then we are actually far more important than previously thought. If we are one planet out of billions in the galaxy out of billions of galaxies then we aren't that important. Just the random offshoot of evolution.

Like I said, the video of US Admiral Byrd and his expedition to the south pole is official footage. It is also bizarre and raises more questions than it answers.

Seriously, watch his videos. Just keep a skeptical mind and realize it is a theory. Your not going to be brainwashed by taking the time to watch a few 10min videos.


Edit: Also, more interesting, is the assertion that most of the early attempts at space exploration weren't really for space exploration. They were made to look that way but had nuclear payloads and were fired directly upward at the "glass ceiling" out of panic. The government didn't know what they were dealing with and decided to try and break it in order to get out. Which didn't work and only caused further panic.

[Clark]

http://i.imgur.com/ys4H5x9.gif

:)

[Scrooge]

So the sun and moon orbit around the north pole? Why is it so bitterly cold there then? Why is it consistently warmer at the equator than any other portion of earth? If the earth is flat and the sun rotates around the north pole, how does this work with a 24 hour day? Again, why would one side of the world be light and the other dark? Does the earth rotate at all or is it completely fixed? What would you suggest as a 2 dimensional flag design that has to depict a 3 dimensional spherical object? The flag does not serve as concrete evidence of anything more than a flag. Yes NASA and virtually every other government organization lies to people constantly. How does that fact have anything to do with the shape of the earth? And yes I have watched 3 entire videos and part of a 4th. I can't find any more compelling argument in any of them other than "NASA lies about stuff so the earth is flat". There isn't any explanation of how any of the physics of a flat earth would work and how we see that line up with reality. So far all I'm seeing is very weak conjecture, at best.

I don't know which videos you watched specifically, but most of your questions are answered in the 'Flat Earth Clues' series and in the interviews with Eric Dubay, among those; manipulation of flight paths, the changing seasons, etc..

Those circles on the UN flag actually mean something, they have to do with the rotation of the Sun and Moon in relation to the seasons (they aren't there just for show.) I posted the image comparing the Flat Earth map to the UN Flag as additional information - not the base of all evidence.

The Chinese symbol for Yin-Yang is actually based on the rotation of the Sun and Moon on top of the plane of 'Flat Earth.'

http://wiki.tfes.org/images/thumb/7/70/SunAnimation.gif/120px-SunAnimation.gif

It's rather pointless for me to keep answering the same questions there are already answers to in the videos I posted in this thread. Although I'd be more than willing to discuss the content, once you've already seen the information and have further questions!

[Glenzig]

I don't know which videos you watched specifically, but most of your questions are answered in the 'Flat Earth Clues' series and in the interviews with Eric Dubay, among those; manipulation of flight paths, the changing seasons, etc..

Those circles on the UN flag actually mean something, they have to do with the rotation of the Sun and Moon in relation to the seasons (they aren't there just for show.) I posted the image comparing the Flat Earth map to the UN Flag as additional information - not the base of all evidence.

The Chinese symbol for Yin-Yang is actually based on the rotation of the Sun and Moon on top of the plane of 'Flat Earth.'

http://wiki.tfes.org/images/thumb/7/70/SunAnimation.gif/120px-SunAnimation.gif

It's rather pointless for me to keep answering the same questions there are already answers to in the videos I posted in this thread. Although I'd be more than willing to discuss the content, once you've already seen the information and have further questions!

Well I mean you started the whole conversation. Maybe you could enlighten us a little more before we spend time watching more videos. Like I said I watched at least 40 mins to an hour of videos including an interview with him and I didn't hear anything convincing in anything so far. I mean pointing out that NASA has lied about a lot of stuff and hid a lot of other stuff does not =flat earth. I don't see any actual evidence of a flat earth. If you don't want to answer peoples honest questions as to why you believe something that seems very absurdly contrary to fact, then dont start the conversation.

[jarshale]

Well I mean you started the whole conversation. Maybe you could enlighten us a little more before we spend time watching more videos. Like I said I watched at least 40 mins to an hour of videos including an interview with him and I didn't hear anything convincing in anything so far. I mean pointing out that NASA has lied about a lot of stuff and hid a lot of other stuff does not =flat earth. I don't see any actual evidence of a flat earth. If you don't want to answer peoples honest questions as to why you believe something that seems very absurdly contrary to fact, then dont start the conversation.

I wish he would explain something too but he just seems to post links over and over.

[pharmakos]

ain't no one got time for watching 10 hours worth of conspiracy theory videos. if your goal is indeed to convince us, scrooge, it would be to your benefit to give us a detailed cliff's notes version.

[Luminari]

First of all the Earth isn't flat. Second of all, it's completely irrelevant as to whether or not it is flat. Third of all, if you should be paying attention to anything it's the fact that Earth is about to be hit by an asteroid on September 23rd of this year that will wipe out a large portion of the east coast of the US. Just like 9/11 was predicted in countless different movies and tv shows and various forms of media, September 23rd 2015 is predicted in even more sources than 9/11 was. In fact, Sir Isaac Newton decoded a biblical prophecy that points exactly to 9/23/2015. Time to wake up~

[Glenzig]

So I have still been trying to watch these videos a chunk at a time. I'm about 2/3 of the way through the first NASAchannel video that was linked in Scrooge's OP. I have to admit, even compared to most other conspiracy theorists, this guy comes off as extremely insane. So I decided to give my synopsis of what I've watched so far (approximately 2 1/2 hours of video) for those that are asking honest questions but receiving no answer other than "watch the video...so closed minded".

Rarely is a train of thought completed. Nothing greater than purely anecdotal evidence is discussed. He keeps rambling on about how we can be sure that the earth is I deed flat because of the threat of global war. What? How does that equal a flat earth? He believes that the un flag represents the true shape of the earth, and that the meridian grid ( he doesn't even know what to call it) represents the rotation of the sun and moon around the flat earth.
But, he also believes that the earth is forever growing and expanding in all directions. He believes that the explanation for this is that the governments dont want anyone going to the south pole, so obviously the south pole is a ring of ice that encircles the perimeter of the world we are allowed to traverse, but that there is an infinite amount of land beyond the ice wall. How an ever expanding flat earth can continue to receive light from a the description of the orbit of the sun and moon that is given is not explained. But, the governments dont want people trekking across the south pole,so it must be true.
To top it all off,he believes that the governments are building an artificially intelligent android army through the use of data mining all of our communications. This will all be revealed, according to him, once a foreign power such as China or Russia is allowed to take over the United States and absorb the technology without having to be restrained by the constitution and human rights. Then they will be able to unleash their super intelligent android army and wreak havoc on humanity. All the while the government officials will be safe in their D.U.M.B's (Deep Underground Military Bases). Why? Well you guessed it, because the earth is flat and they don't want you to know about all the available land. Somehow knowing that the earth is flat is supposed to reverse the position of power and throw the world from the chaos that it is in currently to a virtual utopia. How? I do not know, no explanation is even remotely given for that. At least not yet. I would love to hear it though.
No. I am not making this up. These are all ideas put forward by him in these videos. None of it has any coherence, none of it is presented through any kind of documentation, none of it has been backed up by any actual evidence of a flat earth. The continual argument that is repeated over and over and over is that NASA shows you pictures of the earth that are not real, the U.N. Flag is the actual for real flat earth map, people used to believe that the earth was flat, and you have never actually seen through your own eyes a spheroid earth. That's pretty much it. All of that proves that the earth is flat. That's all it takes.
I'm sure the response will be that I watched with a closed mind, which I didn't or I wouldn't have even bothered watching. Or that I just don't want to believe, which is true, I don't jump at the chance to believe anything without sufficient proof. Especially when it runs completely contrary to what I have been convinced of my whole life.

[Scrooge]

ain't no one got time for watching 10 hours worth of conspiracy theory videos. if your goal is indeed to convince us, scrooge, it would be to your benefit to give us a detailed cliff's notes version.

For those of you who really want detailed information with graphic representation, there's really no need to watch 10 hours of anything, the Flat Earth Clues series' vids are 10min each. I think Rararboker said it well enough in his last post, if you still have as much doubt in this content, after watching this series, as you had before, then there's really not much else I can say.

I only suggested the videos in the first place, because they can explain the answers to all your questions in much better detail than I can, I'm not the author or the narrator of these videos.

If you watched the videos all those questions are covered because, if he didn't, it would be a huge hole in his whole outlook and make it pretty hard to listen to any of it. Asking the questions here, with a tone of derision no less, just shows you didn't take the time to listen to any of it. Makes you look like you have a close minded outlook, like a catholic.

They even talk about how/why it is covered up. People at NASA actually do believe in what they are doing. They are just so compartmentalized that there is no way for them to ever realize they are basically wasting their time playing with simulators.

The main reason for a cover-up is the implications. If we aren't a planet in a nearly infinite universe then we are actually far more important than previously thought. If we are one planet out of billions in the galaxy out of billions of galaxies then we aren't that important. Just the random offshoot of evolution.

Seriously, watch his videos. Just keep a skeptical mind and realize it is a theory. Your not going to be brainwashed by taking the time to watch a few 10min videos.

Edit: Also, more interesting, is the assertion that most of the early attempts at space exploration weren't really for space exploration. They were made to look that way but had nuclear payloads and were fired directly upward at the "glass ceiling" out of panic. The government didn't know what they were dealing with and decided to try and break it in order to get out. Which didn't work and only caused further panic.

Alot of truth in that post!

[Scrooge]

So I have still been trying to watch these videos a chunk at a time. I'm about 2/3 of the way through the first NASAchannel video that was linked in Scrooge's OP. I have to admit, even compared to most other conspiracy theorists, this guy comes off as extremely insane. So I decided to give my synopsis of what I've watched so far (approximately 2 1/2 hours of video) for those that are asking honest questions but receiving no answer other than "watch the video...so closed minded".

Rarely is a train of thought completed. Nothing greater than purely anecdotal evidence is discussed. He keeps rambling on about how we can be sure that the earth is I deed flat because of the threat of global war. What? How does that equal a flat earth? He believes that the un flag represents the true shape of the earth, and that the meridian grid ( he doesn't even know what to call it) represents the rotation of the sun and moon around the flat earth.
But, he also believes that the earth is forever growing and expanding in all directions. He believes that the explanation for this is that the governments dont want anyone going to the south pole, so obviously the south pole is a ring of ice that encircles the perimeter of the world we are allowed to traverse, but that there is an infinite amount of land beyond the ice wall. How an ever expanding flat earth can continue to receive light from a the description of the orbit of the sun and moon that is given is not explained. But, the governments dont want people trekking across the south pole,so it must be true.
To top it all off,he believes that the governments are building an artificially intelligent android army through the use of data mining all of our communications. This will all be revealed, according to him, once a foreign power such as China or Russia is allowed to take over the United States and absorb the technology without having to be restrained by the constitution and human rights. Then they will be able to unleash their super intelligent android army and wreak havoc on humanity. All the while the government officials will be safe in their D.U.M.B's (Deep Underground Military Bases). Why? Well you guessed it, because the earth is flat and they don't want you to know about all the available land. Somehow knowing that the earth is flat is supposed to reverse the position of power and throw the world from the chaos that it is in currently to a virtual utopia. How? I do not know, no explanation is even remotely given for that. At least not yet. I would love to hear it though.
No. I am not making this up. These are all ideas put forward by him in these videos. None of it has any coherence, none of it is presented through any kind of documentation, none of it has been backed up by any actual evidence of a flat earth. The continual argument that is repeated over and over and over is that NASA shows you pictures of the earth that are not real, the U.N. Flag is the actual for real flat earth map, people used to believe that the earth was flat, and you have never actually seen through your own eyes a spheroid earth. That's pretty much it. All of that proves that the earth is flat. That's all it takes.
I'm sure the response will be that I watched with a closed mind, which I didn't or I wouldn't have even bothered watching. Or that I just don't want to believe, which is true, I don't jump at the chance to believe anything without sufficient proof. Especially when it runs completely contrary to what I have been convinced of my whole life.

You're talking about that interview with Math Boylan? It's not even close to being one of the best videos I've posted in this thread, it's more of an introduction but there are way better videos where he compares his work for NASA, between photos and paintings, and makes the audience guess which one is which. You'd be quite surprised how many people cannot tell the difference, even when shown the photos/paintings in person!

I'd change the video links in my OP if I could, but I cannot edit that post so it's stuck there.

Watch the Flat Earth Clues (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8-YdgU-CF4&list=PLltxIX4B8_URNUzDE2sXctnUAEXgEDDGn) series like I've been suggesting these past few days, before you pass judgement! Cause it sounds to me like you're just watching everything BUT the content I recommend, and think that's all there is to it.

[Glenzig]

You're talking about that interview with Math Boylan? It's not even close to being one of the best videos I've posted in this thread, it's more of an introduction but there are way better videos where he compares his work for NASA, between photos and paintings, and makes the audience guess which one is which. You'd be quite surprised how many people cannot tell the difference, even when shown the photos/paintings in person!

I'd change the video links in my OP if I could, but I cannot edit that post so it's stuck there.

Watch the Flat Earth Clues (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8-YdgU-CF4&list=PLltxIX4B8_URNUzDE2sXctnUAEXgEDDGn) series like I've been suggesting these past few days, before you pass judgement! Cause it sounds to me like you're just watching everything BUT the content I recommend, and think that's all there is to it.

The interview video I have watched, but that's not the one I'm talking about. I'm talking about the first YouTube link at the bottom of your op. I believe its called "This crazy notion" or something like that. It was a video that you posted. The only reason I even watched it was because I actually was interested in what was in the video. From my experience even if the idea is kind of crazy, and even if I don't agree with the theory, there are a lot of times some pretty interesting factoids presented. I was genuinely hoping to find this. I was severely disappointed. There were no interesting factoids. There was nothing informative about any of it for me. I already knew all of the things that he says about NASA and the fake pictures from the Apollo missions. I already had figured out that most of the images we see that are supposed to be from space are possibly generated images. But none of that proves that the earth is flat. I may watch more of the videos, I don't know, after 2 1/2 hours of videos that YOU linked I see nothing but a very creative crazy person. My Synopsys wasn't an exaggeration of the video or his ideas. I was being completely truthful about what he says. Maybe you don't think he sounds like a person off his meds, but I do. I have no interest in watching any more videos that you link just because you feel they have definitive proof of a flat earth. Supposed that's what the videos in you op were supposed to prove. I'll watch them for my own entertainment, when I feel like it. Maybe since you have watched them and feel so strongly that they are factual, you could tell us all about the most compelling evidence for the theory. Give us a breakdown.

[pharmakos]

someday, i'm going to be an astronaut, and i'm going to write the words "scrooge was wrong" in big letters on the moon. big enough that you can see it from earth with a telescope.