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1stCrusader
04-09-2015, 02:49 AM
I'm in the process of creating a Halfling warrior and need some advice on stat allocation. I've heard adding 25 Dexterity is good if I want to min-max for Velious, but Halflings already tie for 1st on base Dex with Dwarfs (90). Would it be wise to just put the full 25 points into Stamina or are there other suggestions?
Also, any advice on gear to obtain while I'm leveling as a noobie? This is my first warrior.
Thanks in advance. :cool:
captnamazing
04-09-2015, 03:32 AM
depends on what you're trying to do with your war.. are you min/maxing to get a spot as a raid main tank?
Dump it all into to charisma and steal Mayor Gubbin's woman.
The best low level items you'll want are probably crafted BP and 55hp rings. I might have both if you can track me down in EC.
1stCrusader
04-09-2015, 03:44 AM
depends on what you're trying to do with your war.. are you min/maxing to get a spot as a raid main tank?
I'm not necessarily looking to be main raid tank, but just being optimal for groups. Would 25 Dexterity be appropriate then? Also, would being Agnostic be the better deity choice?
1stCrusader
04-09-2015, 03:46 AM
Dump it all into to charisma and steal Mayor Gubbin's woman.
The best low level items you'll want are probably crafted BP and 55hp rings. I might have both if you can track me down in EC.
I'll be sure to keep an eye out for you :). How much for a BP and rings?
Erydan Ouragan
04-09-2015, 04:09 AM
I'm not necessarily looking to be main raid tank, but just being optimal for groups. Would 25 Dexterity be appropriate then? Also, would being Agnostic be the better deity choice?
Well to be optimal for groups, you should play a paladin or a SK.
If you insist on being a warrior, i would personally put all points into dex. More procs = more threat, and in groups that's what warriors struggle the most with. Also, in normal xp grind groups, most mobs are not dangerous enough to justify extreme stamina/hp. Slow drastically reduces the damage done by mobs, you won't see a lot of groups without a chanter or a shaman.
Agnostic halfling will allow you to go through every "good" city and outposts. So unless there's some sort of advantage by taking up a religion (cultural armor, maybe?) i'd stick with agnostic.
My 2cp.
1stCrusader
04-09-2015, 04:41 AM
Well to be optimal for groups, you should play a paladin or a SK.
If you insist on being a warrior, i would personally put all points into dex. More procs = more threat, and in groups that's what warriors struggle the most with. Also, in normal xp grind groups, most mobs are not dangerous enough to justify extreme stamina/hp. Slow drastically reduces the damage done by mobs, you won't see a lot of groups without a chanter or a shaman.
Agnostic halfling will allow you to go through every "good" city and outposts. So unless there's some sort of advantage by taking up a religion (cultural armor, maybe?) i'd stick with agnostic.
My 2cp.
Thanks for your feedback :)
Samoht
04-09-2015, 09:00 AM
Agnostic halfling will allow you to go through every "good" city and outposts. So unless there's some sort of advantage by taking up a religion (cultural armor, maybe?) i'd stick with agnostic.
i always pick RZ for a warrior. it does not make you KoS in good cities, but it also does not help you in evil cities. and if the off chance that the really good cultural armor is added on this server, you'll be set.
tristantio
04-09-2015, 11:32 AM
Rallos Zek halfling warrior (I have a level 30 one) can use the RZ imbued plate set, it's pretty nice (runs about 8k when I got it).
Brell Serilis can use the imbued enchanted dwarven (even nicer) - although you'll be fine without a religion when you're ready to get the real enchanted dwarven melee armor (set of that runs about 25k last I saw though).
My RZ worshipping halfling warrior is even able to bind in Neriak (guards con dubious) - I think that's due to my RZ worship, since I was pretty sure dark elves hated halflings.
tristantio
04-09-2015, 11:33 AM
Oh, and for stats, if you plan to use a fungi and want to keep that AGI above 75 to avoid the HUGE AC penalty, you may wanna plan for that minus 10 AGI hit the fungi gives.
Messianic
04-09-2015, 12:59 PM
It doesn't make much difference. STA for optimal end-game, STR for easier time early on.
Catashe
04-09-2015, 02:21 PM
Oh, and for stats, if you plan to use a fungi and want to keep that AGI above 75 to avoid the HUGE AC penalty, you may wanna plan for that minus 10 AGI hit the fungi gives.
Yea I don't think he has to worry about that if he is choosing halfling.. don't they start out at like 100 agi if they are a warrior
Issar
04-09-2015, 03:11 PM
i always pick RZ for a warrior. it does not make you KoS in good cities, but it also does not help you in evil cities. and if the off chance that the really good cultural armor is added on this server, you'll be set.
Not entirely true. Make an RZ wood elf warrior and run your ass to Kaladim, stopping to say hi to all the Dwarven guards along the way. To sum up the experience, Loading, please wait...
I had to kill a lot of goblins to get into the city.
Harbogast
04-09-2015, 10:03 PM
Greetings. I play a lvl 60 warrior and the issue of warrior statistics is something I am very familiar with. The main question you should be asking yourself is if your warrior will ever obtain an Avatar proc'cing weapon from Sleeper's Tomb. As you know, Avatar grants you +100 STR, AGI, DEX, ATK, but NOT STA. If you get one of these weapons it will be easy for you to keep everything but your STA maxed. In that case your starting stats should be full STA. Historically, a Halfling warrior goes full STA anyway, so even If you aren't going to obtain a primal velium weapon, it is still a good route to take.
webrunner5
04-09-2015, 10:30 PM
Agility is broken on here so big deal. Str, Sta are the big deals on a Warrior, And AC toward the end game which is broken on here until like level 45ish.
I would put more into Str, Sta than Dex. I know procs help a lot but end game that is why EQ created a Shaman to buff all those stats like Dex, Agi.
Trouble with a Warrior is you have to carry about 10 different weapons. So some are just for damage some for taunt. So no matter what you do Dex wise it isn't crap for half of your weapons. And Stamina is just TOTALLY broken on here swinging weapons unlike live was. You really had to sit and regen it in the day with heavy weapons.
A Warrior is pretty much a must in my opinion in Velious along with a Cleric to heal it. You get into the min max thingy and it is a no brainier to have a Ogre as one. But YMMV. You WILL be needed trust me.
Tero Leary
04-10-2015, 03:41 AM
Dude I totally forgot about stamina needing to regen for fighters. The only thing that takes stamina now is jumping (dwarf tuck and roll).
Foggon
04-10-2015, 09:40 PM
I balanced my str/stamina. My base stats is 90str 100sta 90dex 100agi. SOmething about having all 90/100 physical base stats was appealing to me. But when I am raid buffed w/ velious buffs(even with just kunark gear) they are all 255 anyway.
Clark
04-11-2015, 04:49 AM
If you insist on being a warrior, i would personally put all points into dex. More procs = more threat, and in groups that's what warriors struggle the most with. Also, in normal xp grind groups, most mobs are not dangerous enough to justify extreme stamina/hp. Slow drastically reduces the damage done by mobs, you won't see a lot of groups without a chanter or a shaman.
Agnostic halfling will allow you to go through every "good" city and outposts. So unless there's some sort of advantage by taking up a religion (cultural armor, maybe?) i'd stick with agnostic.
My 2cp.
Good post.
khandman
04-12-2015, 04:12 AM
An RZ Halfling War will be non KoS to Giants upon Velious release. That's a nice advantage.
Celatus
04-12-2015, 05:44 AM
Agnostic is always best unless you plan on dwarven cultural which you may want to consider then brell is the way to go. 25 dex to start is the way to go imo warriors require procs unless you have higher end weapons that give uber swing aggro vp and tov weapons.
isiah
04-12-2015, 05:48 AM
Celeatus don't know shit
don't listen to him
eisley
04-12-2015, 05:54 AM
Dex is gonna be the way to go. In velious, every weapon has a proc, and there's only one way to increase the amount of procs. At this point, I personally would go 25 dex on all melee as well as shaman. But, as stated, it's not a huge deal either way.
webrunner5
04-12-2015, 04:08 PM
Dex is gonna be the way to go. In velious, every weapon has a proc, and there's only one way to increase the amount of procs. At this point, I personally would go 25 dex on all melee as well as shaman. But, as stated, it's not a huge deal either way.
Not EVERY weapon in Velious has a proc. Swifblade of Zek is one of the best melee weapons in the game. http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=5745 Tons more just like it that don't Proc.
Melee's are meat puppets in Velious not really DPS machines. Even now that is their role just to take a beating and have others beat or spell cast the mobs down. Even a Paladin is good at taking a beating, I know, you are shocked I said something good about them lol.
milsorgen
07-08-2015, 10:08 PM
Gonna have to go with STA. I had high DEX on my live WAR and never saw any benefit and when talking to other warriors at the time 99-03 I was always told STA is king.
But that's just like my opinion man.
Jimjam
07-08-2015, 11:59 PM
As its your first character I'd be tempted to put points into STR to help you carry more loot (so make more money)!
Dex doesn't really come into its own till fairly high level, and even then it isn't as consistent as simply putting out potential damage through weapon swings.
A fairly easy weapon combo to attain at low level yourself is Iksar Berserker Club and Polished Granite Tomahawk.
If you want to make some money off players save your bone chips, spiderling silks and HQ bear pelts as these all sell pretty quickly in east common lands. There are plenty of decent ration weapons you can buy fairly cheaply; fist of zek, green jade broadsword and so on for circa 50pp. Alternatively you can try get a rotting scimitar of ykesha and trochilic's skean from rogue epic farmers. These weapons will take you through your 40s easily.
Becareful of Kithicor forest!
captnamazing
07-09-2015, 02:25 AM
go STA. if you're in a group, have them root mobs and tank using proximity. that way dex isn't such a big deal. STR handy when you're broke as fuck levelling but it realy bottoms out toward end game
eisley
07-09-2015, 03:15 AM
Not EVERY weapon in Velious has a proc. Swifblade of Zek is one of the best melee weapons in the game. http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=5745 Tons more just like it that don't Proc.
Melee's are meat puppets in Velious not really DPS machines. Even now that is their role just to take a beating and have others beat or spell cast the mobs down. Even a Paladin is good at taking a beating, I know, you are shocked I said something good about them lol.
Swiftblade is really not good at all... it was kind of notorious for it's mediocrity. Curious what the "tons more" are - I can't think of a single viable Velious-era non proc tanking weapon, thanks in part to the fact that very good tank weapons become very easily available (frostbringer, lodi club, etc)
Ivory
07-09-2015, 04:08 AM
Dump it all into to charisma and steal Mayor Gubbin's woman.
Gubbins woman isn't with him for the charisma...she is with him for his stamina :o :o
Sixpence
07-09-2015, 04:21 AM
Kudos for rolling Hobbit. Sod the Mix/Max lark.
Swish
07-09-2015, 09:11 AM
what about frontal stun immunity? omg
Sixpence
07-09-2015, 09:18 AM
Because there are a zillion Ogre Tanks already & we can.
"All Power to the Free thinking (albeit guaranteed to be stunned off the bat) non Ogre's on Norrath willing to pick up a blade"!
fadetree
07-09-2015, 02:50 PM
WHO NEEDS IT
furry feet ftw
sacman08
07-09-2015, 09:45 PM
STR is easy to get, go STA with the extra points (or even all of them). Having more HP means you can get beat on more while waiting for that lazy OOM cleric to have enough mana to heal you.
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