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Greymantle
03-23-2015, 11:58 PM
My wife and I use to play here. Sad to say she got Alzheimer's and can't play anymore. In honor of her I decided to level her druid. I logged her in and noticed she had no bags. I logged in my account to give her bags and found out I didn't have any to give. I then went to FOB to farm spiderling silk. I forgot to log out my wife's account. To make a long story short I was banned for 30 days because my wife's account was logged in at the same time as mine. That I can live with but then I was told her account is gone for good. :(

Susvain2
03-24-2015, 12:02 AM
so you were 2boxing and got caught?

Greymantle
03-24-2015, 12:06 AM
If having her account in the game the same time as mine then yes. She was sitting at the bank while I was out farming silk. I forgot to log her out when I went to farm silk for bags.

Vandlaetari
03-24-2015, 12:09 AM
Thanks for sharing

TacoSmasher
03-24-2015, 12:10 AM
so you were 2boxing and got caught?

Greymantle
03-24-2015, 12:11 AM
Thanks for sharing Welcome.

Pint
03-24-2015, 12:11 AM
Lesson learned I guess, you're not going to find the sympathy you're looking for around these parts.

Swish
03-24-2015, 12:12 AM
I was banned for 30 days

Sad to hear it.

Not perma-banned though so you'll get back into it. I don't think there's anything stopping you making another login account in the meantime to single box if you're still craving it.

Greymantle
03-24-2015, 12:13 AM
Lesson learned I guess, you're not going to find the sympathy you're looking for around these parts.

I guess not. Not sure I was looking for any just a bit in shock that giving some bags was such a big deal. I mean my wife's druid is level 14 and my druid is 52. It's not like there was anything underhanded going on here.

Greymantle
03-24-2015, 12:17 AM
Sad to hear it.

Not perma-banned though so you'll get back into it. I don't think there's anything stopping you making another login account in the meantime to single box if you're still craving it.

Nah the only reason I play anymore is to buff others. I just got a idea today to level my wife's character. I guess it was to remember how it was many years ago when I met her in EQ.

Swish
03-24-2015, 12:20 AM
I guess not. Not sure I was looking for any just a bit in shock that giving some bags was such a big deal. I mean my wife's druid is level 14 and my druid is 52. It's not like there was anything underhanded going on here.

If you remove the quite sad circumstances in the OP, in an "is that okay...yes or no?" I don't think you'll find anyone saying that's fine to do :/

I caught a necro in Felwithe (won't name his main) but he had a high elf alt sat next to him called "Lootar".

Well guess what? He was killing high elf guards and bagging the loot on the second account because he didn't want to have to run to the druid rings to sell. Is that cool?

If you start arguing that what you were doing is fine and what he was doing was wrong.... where do you draw the line?

Greymantle
03-24-2015, 12:34 AM
If you remove the quite sad circumstances in the OP, in an "is that okay...yes or no?" I don't think you'll find anyone saying that's fine to do :/

I caught a necro in Felwithe (won't name his main) but he had a high elf alt sat next to him called "Lootar".

Well guess what? He was killing high elf guards and bagging the loot on the second account because he didn't want to have to run to the druid rings to sell. Is that cool?

If you start arguing that what you were doing is fine and what he was doing was wrong.... where do you draw the line?

Like I said in my first post I understand. I made a mistake but was a bit bummed they deleted my wife's account.

Aussie
03-24-2015, 12:40 AM
Your wife's account is not deleted, we don't delete accounts.

I don't know your circumstances, but the punishment is 30 days suspension and in a second infraction the account will be permanently banned.

So unless your wife's account has had a previous boxing infringement, it too will only be suspended for 30 days.

TLDR: just clearing up that we don't delete accounts.

Oleris
03-24-2015, 12:40 AM
Sounds like you might have alzheimer's if you forgot that it was logged in.

Rararboker
03-24-2015, 01:39 AM
Low cholesterol diets are bad, mmkay?

Bazia
03-24-2015, 02:05 AM
You bring your wifes irl Alzheimer passing into your boxing ban excuse thread

what the fuck

Greymantle
03-24-2015, 02:09 AM
Sounds like you might have alzheimer's if you forgot that it was logged in.

Well when your not using the account it's easy to forget. It's not like I was out farming a camp with 2 accounts it was a transfer of bags. I don't feel a 30 day ban is fair but I don't make the rules.

Susvain2
03-24-2015, 02:10 AM
You bring your wifes irl Alzheimer passing into your boxing ban excuse thread

what the fuck

lol

hi kec, good post

Greymantle
03-24-2015, 02:13 AM
You bring your wifes irl Alzheimer passing into your boxing ban excuse thread

what the fuck

Well when you get to experience Alzheimer's you might understand or maybe not based on your post.

Susvain2
03-24-2015, 02:33 AM
maybe you just shouldn't two box

glad you're banned

Greymantle
03-24-2015, 02:39 AM
maybe you just shouldn't two box

glad you're banned

Yea because giving some bags is series stuff I should have got a year. You never know if I would have had another 20 min I would have made some more bags and doubled her inventory space now that would have been game over.

Ezalor
03-24-2015, 02:45 AM
Well when you get to experience Alzheimer's you might understand or maybe not based on your post.

you completely missed his point

Susvain2
03-24-2015, 03:11 AM
Yea because giving some bags is series stuff I should have got a year. You never know if I would have had another 20 min I would have made some more bags and doubled her inventory space now that would have been game over.

cheaters never win, thanks for letting us know you're a scumbag. Now i know to avoid you at all causts

Greymantle
03-24-2015, 03:18 AM
cheaters never win, thanks for letting us know you're a scumbag. Now i know to avoid you at all causts

How will I ever sleep.

sulpher01
03-24-2015, 04:09 AM
Why did you even make this post?

Master Roshi
03-24-2015, 06:22 AM
Sorry for the circumstances, and sorry for the relentless hate. Hope it all works out as it should. I suggest you stop replying to keep the blood-lust from gaining more and more fuel.

Secrets
03-24-2015, 06:55 AM
I'm sorry to hear about your wife who has Alzheimers. Had to help my family take care of my grandfather who passed away from the same disease, so it hits home for sure.
You have to look at this from the perspective of the staff, though. If they let everyone who said they wanted to look at their wife's character side by side on the same computer, all the uberguilds would have a lot of family members that had recently had the disease as well that played EverQuest.

It's nothing personal against you, it's just a matter of the fact that if the staff allows one person to do it, everyone should be allowed to do it. You made a mistake by logging on two characters, and 30 days from now, you will be unbanned as will her character, most likely without an IP exemption anymore.
Again, I'm sorry to hear about your wife, and I hope the best for her and her family. I know what it's like to lose someone to that disease. It's devastating; I lived it for 5 years before my grandfather passed away. But exceptions cannot be made for a specific individual based on tragedy.

Cecily
03-24-2015, 07:05 AM
I feel with a little more investigation into the matter, if the guy's story holds up and he wasn't actively using the other character, he shouldn't be punished for an easy mistake to make. But, yeah, it's much more efficient to just ban him.

Connecticut
03-24-2015, 08:29 AM
I'm glad to see they actively ban boxers.

PDX0621
03-24-2015, 10:42 AM
Hey pals, I have cancer, flesh eating disease, athletes foot and HIV, that's why I RMT'd, because I don't have enough time left on earth to play legit! Being *suspended*, not banned, is such BS!

*EDIT* Added flesh eating disease an athletes foot to my affliction list.

Swish
03-24-2015, 10:53 AM
Hey pals, I have cancer, flesh eating disease, athletes foot and HIV, that's why I RMT'd, because I don't have enough time left on earth to play legit! Being *suspended*, not banned, is such BS!

*EDIT* Added flesh eating disease an athletes foot to my affliction list.

I think the OP has got the message on that. For me, I think the community is better than this when it comes to RL stuff. RNF bleeding over to server chat more and more.

PDX0621
03-24-2015, 10:59 AM
I'm just not buyin' it. So many people will come up with excuses to justify their punishments. If that's not the case, then I'm sorry. However, I feel like in the majority of these cases people are trying to tug at others heart strings to win support, thus my sassy reply.

Nirgon
03-24-2015, 11:04 AM
my wife ran away with the gardener to Mexico

Release Velious please it is the only way my wounds can heal

FatMice
03-24-2015, 11:17 AM
my wife ran away with the gardener to Mexico

Release Velious please it is the only way my wounds can heal

This.

Heebo
03-24-2015, 11:19 AM
I feel with a little more investigation into the matter, if the guy's story holds up and he wasn't actively using the other character, he shouldn't be punished for an easy mistake to make. But, yeah, it's much more efficient to just ban him.

OP plz submit medical records as exhibit A

FatMice
03-24-2015, 11:23 AM
I think the OP has got the message on that. For me, I think the community is better than this when it comes to RL stuff. RNF bleeding over to server chat more and more.

Swish... just so can feel easy about all the criers and sarcasm on the forums. When someone starts a post ranting and flaming the staff within Server Chat, you should believe that it will be met with Rants and Flames posts. I can appreciate your desire to be on standing on a higher ground, but on such a trivial topic I didn't waste my time read much about between the first post and the initial page.

Swish
03-24-2015, 12:32 PM
Swish... just so can feel easy about all the criers and sarcasm on the forums. When someone starts a post ranting and flaming the staff within Server Chat, you should believe that it will be met with Rants and Flames posts. I can appreciate your desire to be on standing on a higher ground, but on such a trivial topic I didn't waste my time read much about between the first post and the initial page.

Yeah I don't expect him to receive a ton of sympathy, and I'm not the type for the moral high ground.. but some people need to think about what they're typing sometimes.

FatMice
03-24-2015, 12:54 PM
God... I reread what I wrote... I see so many mistakes. My brain is tired.

Greymantle
03-24-2015, 12:56 PM
I wish I could delete the post it was a waste of time to post it. I guess I was a bit in shock for being banned for doing something as trivial as a transfer of bags. Considering I went about a year without playing I think I can wait out 30 days. I'm just not sure if I want to play anymore will see how I feel in 30 days.

indiscriminate_hater
03-24-2015, 12:57 PM
I'm sorry to hear about your wife who has Alzheimers. Had to help my family take care of my grandfather who passed away from the same disease, so it hits home for sure.
You have to look at this from the perspective of the staff, though. If they let everyone who said they wanted to look at their wife's character side by side on the same computer, all the uberguilds would have a lot of family members that had recently had the disease as well that played EverQuest.

It's nothing personal against you, it's just a matter of the fact that if the staff allows one person to do it, everyone should be allowed to do it. You made a mistake by logging on two characters, and 30 days from now, you will be unbanned as will her character, most likely without an IP exemption anymore.
Again, I'm sorry to hear about your wife, and I hope the best for her and her family. I know what it's like to lose someone to that disease. It's devastating; I lived it for 5 years before my grandfather passed away. But exceptions cannot be made for a specific individual based on tragedy.

we can take this as the end of the thread now

captnamazing
03-24-2015, 01:05 PM
first it's just bags
then it's Breaking Bad RMT empire

2boxing - not even once

http://www.sciencealert.com/new-alzheimer-s-treatment-fully-restores-memory-function

fishingme
03-24-2015, 01:56 PM
I feel with a little more investigation into the matter, if the guy's story holds up and he wasn't actively using the other character, he shouldn't be punished for an easy mistake to make. But, yeah, it's much more efficient to just ban him.

+1, decided to check post history 90% of it was about an ip exemption over 2 years agos for him and his wife. The rest of you talking shit about this guy boxing, you people need to go back to beating off to tranny porn. This isn't RNF.

Rararboker
03-24-2015, 02:07 PM
I think the big point here is that ignorance doesn't excuse you from the rules. Which is what, albeit indirectly, the trolling is aimed at. Even if he is "innocent" he still broke a server rule which is fairly lenient with only a 30 day ban.

Lighten up and L2internet.

Hauser
03-24-2015, 02:18 PM
Sorry to hear you got banned for no reason. The people on this server think you are scum or deserved a ban because they are mentally ill. Just refer to them as Reek. They will protect their masters no matter what.

Most of you haters would suck rogaens dick and you would also rmt/dual box if he said it was ok. Don't deny it.

dafier
03-24-2015, 02:19 PM
I read this post and decided to respond with this:

I am new to P99. I know of the 'No boxing' rule. Yet, I see people 'following' and clearing switching back and forth between chars.

Eventually you will get caught.

TrendyDru
03-24-2015, 02:19 PM
Sad to hear it.

Not perma-banned though so you'll get back into it. I don't think there's anything stopping you making another login account in the meantime to single box if you're still craving it.

Then he will have 2 accounts to play when his other one comes unba- ..oh wait.

Lictor
03-24-2015, 03:51 PM
Good to see the wife/girlfriend excuse to 2 box is still alive and well. This time with a bonus twist of illness feels.

xexbis0
03-24-2015, 04:16 PM
This thread is a wonderful display of how crappy people are. Some of these comments are pathetic.

Loke
03-24-2015, 05:17 PM
This thread is a wonderful display of how crappy people are. Some of these comments are pathetic.

Or it is a display of how people are naturally suspicious of random people telling sob stories on the internet, and rightfully so. This guy made this post hoping to illicit sympathy by pulling on our heart strings - whether his story is true or not doesn't change the fact that the manner he went about discussing this subject was a manipulative appeal to the communities' emotions. Anyone who has spent even a minimal amount of time online has likely been contacted by numerous Nigerian princes, knows a handful of navy seals, and had friends who've collectively suffered from every ailment known to modern medical science.

People don't like being manipulated, especially when it comes to unverifiable stories told online attempting to justify misbehavior. There is a petition forum where he could have handled with the staff in private, but this guy decided to try his case in the court of public opinion, and the court has regretfully found his case lacking.

Ezalor
03-24-2015, 05:33 PM
This thread is a wonderful display of how crappy people are. Some of these comments are pathetic.

ok say you give this guy the full benefit of the doubt

i think we can all agree that it's tacky and undignified to publicly broadcast your wife's ailment and try to use it as an emotional wedge to get your elf emulator ban reversed

what the fuck is wrong with you

SamwiseRed
03-24-2015, 06:02 PM
lesson learned, dont get married

Lisset
03-24-2015, 06:39 PM
I forgot to log out my wife's account. To make a long story short I was banned for 30 days because my wife's account was logged in at the same time as mine.

Complete, unadulterated bullshit. You did not get banned because you were farming while it was logged in at the bank, and you know it.

I logged in my account to give her bags

THIS is why you were banned. What part of no 2-boxing is so tough to understand? When you applied for your exemption it was to play with 2 people. You said yourself that your wife can't play. I fail to see how her alleged disability is even remotely relevant, and appears to be nothing more than a play for sympathy.

captnamazing
03-24-2015, 06:45 PM
Someone mark this down on the list of greatest backfire threads

Jenithia
03-24-2015, 07:21 PM
Sorry to hear about your wife. Is that your RL pic in your avatar?

TrendyDru
03-24-2015, 08:38 PM
Someone mark this down on the list of greatest backfire threads

There was a guy who had backfire threads as his sig. I made it once. Then I stopped posting.

Nisse
03-26-2015, 05:57 PM
I guess I was a bit in shock for being banned for doing something as trivial as a transfer of bags.

Does the depth of your depravity know no limitations sir?

Seriously though, I have to wait for one of my idiot friends to log in, or trust some random player with my preciouses if I want to do transfers. ie interaction with other players.

Sadre Spinegnawer
03-26-2015, 06:09 PM
When eq was released, my father died.

Can we instance ToV?

Greymantle
03-26-2015, 06:09 PM
Does the depth of your depravity know no limitations sir?

Seriously though, I have to wait for one of my idiot friends to log in, or trust some random player with my preciouses if I want to do transfers. ie interaction with other players.

Sigh another that does no wrong. What was that saying....He who is without sin can cast the first stone.

I'm here to have fun it didn't even enter my mind that setting up my wife's druid with bags while having both accounts logged in was wrong. It was a convenience that cost me 30 days. If this was just about any other MMO we wouldn't be even having this discussion for I would have just sent them in the mail.

fastboy21
03-26-2015, 06:28 PM
Does the depth of your depravity know no limitations sir?

Seriously though, I have to wait for one of my idiot friends to log in, or trust some random player with my preciouses if I want to do transfers. ie interaction with other players.

ground drop ftw. classic. fun.

Sidelle
03-26-2015, 06:28 PM
Sorry about your wife, OP. That's a devastating disease I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.

But I have to agree with the following post:
first it's just bags
then it's Breaking Bad RMT empire

2boxing - not even once

^^LOLd.

applesauce25r624
03-26-2015, 09:36 PM
There was a guy who had backfire threads as his sig. I made it once. Then I stopped posting.

Someone mark this down on the list of greatest backfire threads

added

Nisse
03-26-2015, 10:03 PM
ground drop ftw. classic. fun.
I lost a bag full of bronze armor once in a drop transfer gone horribly wrong, the memory of which still haunts my nightmares. Never again.

Stormfists
03-27-2015, 05:42 AM
I sow'ed someone the other day, permaban.

Nadasdy
03-27-2015, 06:41 AM
I lost a bag full of bronze armor once in a drop transfer gone horribly wrong, the memory of which still haunts my nightmares. Never again.

Used to play on my uncles account back in like 2000, he had a CHA character for selling and it died somehow and I got blamed. Got my own account after that and shared it with my brother, during the ground drop process between accounts, some random guy found the spot and started taking the stuff. My brother was like 9 at the time started crying and got my mom mad and she got on our account and bitched the guy out, fun times.

Thulack
03-27-2015, 08:45 AM
Sigh another that does no wrong. What was that saying....He who is without sin can cast the first stone.

I'm here to have fun it didn't even enter my mind that setting up my wife's druid with bags while having both accounts logged in was wrong. It was a convenience that cost me 30 days. If this was just about any other MMO we wouldn't be even having this discussion for I would have just sent them in the mail.

Then go have fun in WoW and you can send all the shit in the mail you want ;)

drktmplr12
03-27-2015, 09:45 AM
I then went to FOB to farm spiderling silk.

Not to be a dick, but who farms silk for bags?

Duncon
03-27-2015, 09:51 AM
Not to be a dick, but who farms silk for bags?

You need cords for tailored large bags (6 slot 10% W 0.4) you use spiderling silk for that, 6 of them.

maskedmelon
03-27-2015, 02:44 PM
Sad story :/ I remain skeptical though. Unfortunately the rules are very clear... Best of luck and when the suspension is lifted in 30 days keep your whistle clean this time ^^

Ella`Ella
03-27-2015, 03:35 PM
My wife and I use to play here. Sad to say she got Alzheimer's and can't play anymore.

I forgot to log out my wife's account.

Who has Alzheimer's?

herb_gotti
03-27-2015, 05:13 PM
One thing that hasn't changed on eq: people are assholes. Not talking about the Guides or rules just some of these comments are useless. Sorry to hear about your wife but ya you got to follow the rules to play =/.

loramin
03-27-2015, 05:20 PM
It's interesting how the responses to this thread have been. Basically if you are a new poster (< 300 posts) your response is probably going to be of the "gee, sorry to hear about your wife" variety. Conversely if you're a forum regular you're response is way more likely to be of the "really, another plea to the community after you broke the rules and 2-boxed?"

Not sure what that means, other than that these forums make all of us regulars jaded, while the new players (perhaps naively) think the best of people.

Glenzig
03-27-2015, 05:24 PM
It's interesting how the responses to this thread have been. Basically if you are a new poster (< 300 posts) your response is probably going to be of the "gee, sorry to hear about your wife" variety. Conversely if you're a forum regular you're response is way more likely to be of the "really, another plea to the community after you broke the rules and 2-boxed?"

Not sure what that means, other than that these forums make all of us regulars jaded, while the new players (perhaps naively) think the best of people.

I think he might very well be telling the truth. The problem with that is, why does it matter? Why make a post about it? You're not going to get your account unbanned.

Susvain2
03-27-2015, 05:39 PM
OP is obviously cheater. needs to get forumbanned

fastboy21
03-27-2015, 06:00 PM
The most interesting thing about this thread is that it isn't in RNF yet...

Seriously, if the OP is trolling then it belongs in RNF; if the OP isn't trolling (and I do have sympathy for his RL situation) then its a sad story and someone put him out of his misery and move this off server chat to the RNF section.

slappytwotoes
03-27-2015, 06:19 PM
I think he might very well be telling the truth. The problem with that is, why does it matter? Why make a post about it? You're not going to get your account unbanned.

Because most MMOs now days if you bitch loud enough on the forums, CS reps crumple like a cheap suit.

One of the reasons I like it here, rulez is rulez. Sorry buddy.

Master Roshi
03-27-2015, 07:08 PM
All you skeptics with your "Im glad you're banned, go die in a fire" mentality is really unwarranted. the Initial post wasn't asking for anything like a reversal or even flaming the staff. It's not like the forum is any sort of investigator anyway, the staff will find out the truth and act accordingly.

He essentially said "I did a no-no and got a 30day ban, which I will deal with, but I'm sad to hear my wife's account got deleted"

It was later cleared up that accts were not deleted in this manner and that was that, yet people jump on the thread acting like this OP was trying to sell us all something, telling him terribly hateful things. Even if OP is lying, the sort of crap people are posting is just overboard.

Eliseus
03-27-2015, 07:09 PM
Not classic.

Being banned for boxing that is.

loramin
03-27-2015, 07:40 PM
Not classic.

Being banned for boxing that is.

Well ...

A) there were never free accounts on live, so comparing that to P99 is really apples and oranges
B) boxing two accounts on the same computer was a ban-worthy offense in the classic era

Using two separate accounts, with two separate computers, with two separate internet connections (which meant two separate phone lines for most people), was extremely rare back in '99 ... but that was allowed. But if someone to wanted to play two accounts on the same machine/connection, that was impossible with the native EQ client. There was a 3rd-party program (EQW) that let you do it ... but 3rd-party programs were banned.

So yes, if you paid $20 a month, plus you bought two computers at $1000+ each, paid $40 a month for two internet connections, another $40 a month for two lines ... then you could box legally. But that's not even remotely comparable to the free accounts on P99, which you can play ten of on the same computer/internet connection. So really, boxing bans were classic.

August
03-27-2015, 07:58 PM
Oh, what sad times are these when passing ruffians can say Ni at will to old men.

Guy had a lapse in judgment / comprehension and that sucks. You people need to get a life.

Swish
03-27-2015, 08:44 PM
Now we see the violence inherent in the system

Thulack
03-27-2015, 08:48 PM
Well ...

A) there were never free accounts on live, so comparing that to P99 is really apples and oranges
B) boxing two accounts on the same computer was a ban-worthy offense in the classic era

Using two separate accounts, with two separate computers, with two separate internet connections (which meant two separate phone lines for most people), was extremely rare back in '99 ... but that was allowed. But if someone to wanted to play two accounts on the same machine/connection, that was impossible with the native EQ client. There was a 3rd-party program (EQW) that let you do it ... but 3rd-party programs were banned.

So yes, if you paid $20 a month, plus you bought two computers at $1000+ each, paid $40 a month for two internet connections, another $40 a month for two lines ... then you could box legally. But that's not even remotely comparable to the free accounts on P99, which you can play ten of on the same computer/internet connection. So really, boxing bans were classic.

You didnt need 2 internet connections. Both my parents, myself and my younger brother all played EQ in 99. We had 2 computers setup on a huge ass desk. We had 3 accounts between the 4 of us and boxed whenever someone wasnt around to duo with. It wasnt as efficient as it could have been but was easily done.

Wizerud
03-28-2015, 03:21 AM
Not when you're on dial-up.

Llodd
03-28-2015, 05:35 AM
That's all there was where I live (dial up) and people boxed on it; and more than 2 accounts. It was possible.

fastboy21
03-28-2015, 06:57 AM
It's not really on point; but it was certainly possible and done by many. I had access to four real life friend accounts (I only paid for mine---but we shared our user info for emergencies, etc.). It didn't take a great deal of bandwidth to log one of them on for a transfer, or a rez, or a buff, or a port, etc.

I wasn't playing with them all boxing them, but I could certainly log them in for simple stuff. It sometimes took painfully long to move them around, but it didn't matter for what I wanted them for.

It doesn't matter here, but its true that boxing for simple stuff wasn't very rare on live.

Swish
03-28-2015, 10:39 AM
Are you the messiah?

http://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2015/03/28/ezgif-1424574973.gif

Swish
03-28-2015, 10:40 AM
As for all the "we did it on live nps"... if Sony wasn't profiting from it I don't think they'd have allowed it.

Right now it makes no sense to box on H1Z1, but if there was money in it... hell yes they'd let you ;)

bulbousaur
03-30-2015, 02:59 PM
Internet connection sharing. We had 2-3 people playing through one dial up connection.

loramin
03-30-2015, 03:04 PM
Internet connection sharing. We had 2-3 people playing through one dial up connection.

3 people on a single 56k modem? I'll believe that it could work, but I would be very surprised if there wasn't some serious lag while doing that ....

Fael
03-30-2015, 03:09 PM
not everyone had dialups in the year 2000.

maskedmelon
03-30-2015, 03:14 PM
not everyone had dialups in the year 2000.

Right, except the person Lora was responding to said they were playing on dial up ^^

Rararboker
03-30-2015, 03:23 PM
When I started playing we had Cox(Comcast) and it was nice. My shitty comp was the bottleneck in those days.

Kandykiss
03-30-2015, 03:42 PM
I would like to say I am so sorry to hear about your wife. and I am sorry to hear about her banned account. I am also sorry that anonimity allows people to say things on the internet that they wouldn't say to your face. I wish you the best. Yes, when you get an IP exemption they do state, again, that 2 boxing for any reason is a banned offense. I know of people who have logged in for 30 seconds to do a transfer and got their accounts banned. In most of these cases the GMs will watch you sometimes and try to figure out if it is actually 2 people playing. If you are AFK at the bank though.. well IDK how they could know that it wasn't your wife AFK at the bank. Which is why I am iffy about my friends or my mom logging in my other account from my house LOL. They don't know what they are doing very well. I'm not 100% sure they could pass a boxing test with me... but well, they haven't said anything yet, so apparently/hopefully they know I am not boxing. I have to ask though, did this happen more than once? With one toon logged in and not doing anything? Because if it is a regular occurrence I can sort of understand why they might get suspicious.

Eliseus
03-31-2015, 04:09 AM
Well ...

A) there were never free accounts on live, so comparing that to P99 is really apples and oranges
B) boxing two accounts on the same computer was a ban-worthy offense in the classic era

Using two separate accounts, with two separate computers, with two separate internet connections (which meant two separate phone lines for most people), was extremely rare back in '99 ... but that was allowed. But if someone to wanted to play two accounts on the same machine/connection, that was impossible with the native EQ client. There was a 3rd-party program (EQW) that let you do it ... but 3rd-party programs were banned.

So yes, if you paid $20 a month, plus you bought two computers at $1000+ each, paid $40 a month for two internet connections, another $40 a month for two lines ... then you could box legally. But that's not even remotely comparable to the free accounts on P99, which you can play ten of on the same computer/internet connection. So really, boxing bans were classic.

Wut? Ignoring that almost all your info is wrong, you gave an example of not being banned while boxing, then ended with boxing bans were classic.

fastboy21
03-31-2015, 06:10 AM
It wasn't rare. The bandwidth/crappy computers problem was more of an issue...but if all you doing was a transfer or a buff or a rez lag didn't really matter.

It was cumbersome and clunky for me to box (it was a real second computer in an entirely second room---I can remember literally hitting trade and then running upstairs to my brother's room to hit his trade button), but was far from rare or impossible, especially for simple boxing tasks.

PDX0621
03-31-2015, 10:38 AM
I can remember literally hitting trade and then running upstairs to my brother's room to hit his trade button), but was far from rare or impossible, especially for simple boxing tasks.

Only way I'd support boxing on this server. Rogean or other GM would perform in an home inspection, and verify computers were on different floors of same house. That way boxers could be happy, and the neckbeards would get some exercise.

Stair-boxing FTW

maskedmelon
03-31-2015, 11:05 AM
Only way I'd support boxing on this server. Rogean or other GM would perform in an home inspection, and verify computers were on different floors of same house. That way boxers could be happy, and the neckbeards would get some exercise.

Stair-boxing FTW

Endorsed.

loramin
03-31-2015, 11:10 AM
Wut? Ignoring that almost all your info is wrong, you gave an example of not being banned while boxing, then ended with boxing bans were classic.

You must be slow, so I'll try using less words:

Boxing on a single box was banned. Boxing on multiple boxes not banned. 00's technology made both harder than they are today.

Better?

loramin
03-31-2015, 11:10 AM
Only way I'd support boxing on this server. Rogean or other GM would perform in an home inspection, and verify computers were on different floors of same house. That way boxers could be happy, and the neckbeards would get some exercise.

Stair-boxing FTW

Endorsed.

Eliseus
03-31-2015, 02:11 PM
You must be slow, so I'll try using less words:

Boxing on a single box was banned. Boxing on multiple boxes not banned. 00's technology made both harder than they are today.

Better?

Grasping at straws now. I applaud the effort though.

loramin
03-31-2015, 02:39 PM
Grasping at straws now. I applaud the effort though.

That's cute coming from a guy with no arguments, no evidence, and really nothing at all except snide remarks, who's trying to argue against historical facts.

Eliseus
03-31-2015, 02:44 PM
That's cute coming from a guy with no arguments, no evidence, and really nothing at all except snide remarks, who's trying to argue against historical facts.

L4m3st0n3
03-31-2015, 03:41 PM
This thread was really epic until everyone started moaning about classic vs p99 & boxing allowed in classic vs bannable. Who the hell cares? Why are people nit picking every damn statement people make?

The real issue is, this guy picked up a woman with Alzheimer's off the street and tells her that he is her husband every day. Then uses her as an excuse to get an IP exception. Lowest of the low.

But really though, some of you are harsh like others have stated. I was surprised to read some of this stuff considering how nice some people usually have been in game since I started playing. Who cares if its truth or not, it won't change anything. No need to make an epic thread about it. You can obviously tell he's lying about some of it with some of his statements as well.


TL;DR Who cares? He got hit with a BFG

heartbrand
03-31-2015, 03:47 PM
Your wife's account is not deleted, we don't delete accounts.

I don't know your circumstances, but the punishment is 30 days suspension and in a second infraction the account will be permanently banned.

So unless your wife's account has had a previous boxing infringement, it too will only be suspended for 30 days.

TLDR: just clearing up that we don't delete accounts.

What is frustrating to me as a player is this guy who didn't two box at all to an advantage gets hammered, but someone like lite sometimes four boxes on raids for three years with zero punishment. Smedy PLed himself and got a 14 day suspension. The punishment just doesn't seem to fit the crime and that is very concerning as a player.

Jettison
03-31-2015, 03:52 PM
What is frustrating to me as a player is this guy who didn't two box at all to an advantage gets hammered, but someone like lite sometimes four boxes on raids for three years with zero punishment. Smedy PLed himself and got a 14 day suspension. The punishment just doesn't seem to fit the crime and that is very concerning as a player.

I didn't know about any of this, but if true..... ^^This.

loramin
03-31-2015, 03:57 PM
The punishment just doesn't seem to fit the crime and that is very concerning as a player.

Well keep in mind, you're only hearing the player's side of the story in all of these cases. The GMs might not tell us every little fact about every little case, but I'd imagine that they know a ton of details that make their punishments make more sense.

iruinedyourday
03-31-2015, 04:10 PM
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25736152/EQ/footesteps.JPG

maskedmelon
03-31-2015, 04:13 PM
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25736152/EQ/footesteps.JPG

I lol'd ^^

Daldaen
03-31-2015, 04:13 PM
Okay I lol'd.

Eunomia
03-31-2015, 04:16 PM
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25736152/EQ/footesteps.JPG

I needed that. Was good timing. Thank you

Rararboker
03-31-2015, 04:17 PM
I feel like the people criticizing the staff have probably never been in a position of authority like that. If you have you'd know you generally try to make good decisions but people second, third and quaduple guess you at every turn, even when you make good decisions. It gets extra bad when people play "victim" and tell their story in a way that conveniently makes them look more innocent than they really are.

Modus
04-01-2015, 11:30 PM
My wife and I use to play here. Sad to say she got Alzheimer's and can't play anymore.

Mind posting some pics of her as proof? You'll need to dress her up in a christmas sweater w/ a post-it-note on her forehead so we know it's really you.

rollin5k
04-01-2015, 11:36 PM
Since you have a good reason you didn't follow the rules they should not apply.. There I said it

visage
04-02-2015, 12:16 AM
it's totally fair. it is hurting you so bad.... maybe next time you won't forget to log her out... or how about just don't two box dude...