server environment improving

[Colgate]

4 guilds going for content on sim repop

almost caught azrael sniping the innoruuk we left up, caught them trying to snipe faydedar, fought them, zoned into timorous deep to find friends trying to kill faydedar the whole time

too bad they wiped, got a nice dragon hero bracer and shield of the water dragon out of it

[Sektor]

4 guilds going for content on sim repop

almost caught azrael sniping the innoruuk we left up, caught them trying to snipe faydedar, fought them, zoned into timorous deep to find friends trying to kill faydedar the whole time

too bad they wiped, got a nice dragon hero bracer and shield of the water dragon out of it

grats, i do agree to some sort, I truly believe that Nizzar running the top guild on this server was bad. Holocaust to me is the lesser of the two evils. Server pop is better, I enjoy the pvp.

[lite]

Pras

[quido]

everybody ready to hug it out finally?

[Eslade]

only if you show us your tits.

[chrystianvz]

A positive thread? How'd that happen?

[daasgoot]

4 guilds going for content on sim repop

almost caught azrael sniping the innoruuk we left up, caught them trying to snipe faydedar, fought them, zoned into timorous deep to find friends trying to kill faydedar the whole time

too bad they wiped, got a nice dragon hero bracer and shield of the water dragon out of it

i agree and will follow it up with a "pras".

however, you seem so fuckin salty lately.. what gives?

[Colgate]

i'm mad

[vouss]

Would of had that Faydadar if I didn't go LD on coat heh, fought it from 45% to 18% while LD then got booted from the game

[Colgate]

saw that, wondered how you guys even wiped to it

you had like 3 clerics and a bard there right?

[krazyGlue]

Circle jerk time

[Smedy]

yeah, grats on getting pvp, who would have though that randomly spawned dragons would bring more pvp then static ones when people just abuse the system and recruit 70% of the server pop in order to never ever have to pvp for said static dragons

but variance is bad mmkay, shiiiieet, yall nightriders r dumb

[Colgate]

there wasn't any more pvp

azrael still avoided pvp like the plague

friends wiped and ported the leftovers out

[Troubled]

yeah, grats on getting pvp, who would have though that randomly spawned dragons would bring more pvp then static ones when people just abuse the system and recruit 70% of the server pop in order to never ever have to pvp for said static dragons

but variance is bad mmkay, shiiiieet, yall nightriders r dumb

Variance != sim repops

How could you even make that correlation? Apples and oranges. u r dumb

[vouss]

more like 1 cleric and a bard, was able to keep a 57 ranger up but he was the only melee DPS other then coat and the bard so it regene'd it's HP back. I couldn't get back in for a couple minutes.

[vouss]

As for pvp on the repop, we showed up in feerot with 6 people and had 20+ holocaust camp on us, and that's it, went to bed afterwards.

[Smedy]

Variance != sim repops

How could you even make that correlation? Apples and oranges. u r dumb

if i had a 0.25 k/d ratio on a bis char i'd also be mad, feels good swaying rags and zero epics yet still being the god damn best at clicking the buttons in the correct order, you feelers?

[Susvain2]

if i had a 0.25 k/d ratio on a bis char i'd also be mad, feels good swaying rags and zero epics yet still being the god damn best at clicking the buttons in the correct order, you feelers?

soo....you can't read?

[Nocsucow]

holocaust is not a guild ... its a zerg man...

[Kergan]

holocaust is not a guild ... its a zerg man...

Ignore this poster he is dumb as shit.

[Nocsucow]

Ignore this poster he is dumb as shit.
kergan you so easy to rustle..... go back to swinging tarzan

[MavstabYoudead]

there wasn't any more pvp

azrael still avoided pvp like the plague

friends wiped and ported the leftovers out

you're rolling around with 50-60 people bieber. you don't want pvp quit acting like you do. if you did you wouldn't have half of the server in one guild.

[quido]

there was over 300 people on during the repops

[LostCause]

not the first time grats?

[quido]

50 / 300 != 1/2
60 / 300 != 1/2

How many characters does Madstab think Lite is boxing to make our raidforce half the server?

[MavstabYoudead]

hopefully fresh gives you guys the pvp that you don't want. no one else is interested in having a zerg guild.

[quido]

Plenty of people are interested in such numbers, just a good chunk of them pretend they aren't because they so are so annoying and retarded that they could never maintain such numbers.

[MavstabYoudead]

like I said only holocaust and fresh are interested in having that many people, carry on moran.

[quido]

I remember Azrael and pals fielding close to 50 a number of times and being proud of it.

You act like going around with 20-25 now is a function of some master plan and not because lots of credible people bailed on having to deal with such idiocy. Be honest with yourself.

[MavstabYoudead]

I am being honest. pretty sure I've even posted my first app to a guild on p99 where I specifically said how anti-zerg I was, which is why I joined divinity on blue.

fielding 50 when that is just about every active member of your guild's roster is one thing, but fielding 50 when it's 25% of your roster is something else.

[Samsung]

Yaw guys lets try to fight a 60-70 man force with 20-30 people.

Not sure if srs or dum.

[Nirgon]

Azrael can't get that many in guild due to its reputation

Oh well *gets in bard group and runs to ToV*

[Buhbuh]

ya p sure we've hashed over the reasons many a time, no one will ever agree on the reasons

see you in sleepers tomb

[FaithlessKR]

like I said only holocaust and fresh are interested in killing anything in velious

FTFY

[MavstabYoudead]

FTFY

only you noobs think you need 70+ for velious content.

[Nirgon]

Go clear ToV/Sontalak with your 30, I'll be waiting here to congratulate you

[MavstabYoudead]

did I say we'd do it with 30? you don't need a guild your size to clear everything in velious, period.

also can't wait to see how many of your guild disappears when velious releases on blue and not on red. going to be glorious.

[Susvain2]

madstab are you mad i cant tell ??

[quido]

I heard that red is getting Velious first and that all guilds with less than 150 members will be disbanded.

[vouss]

Golem wands count : 134

[MavstabYoudead]

madstab are you mad i cant tell ??

no laughing at clueless people talking about velious content...

[Kergan]

What server did you do Velious on Mavstab?

[MavstabYoudead]

the beta server with the rest of holo obviously. I was only 5 when eq released so I have to pretend like I did the content.

[Nirgon]

I personally think 50-60 is a great number for ToV.

The pals who came over here from blue do NOT want to go back and deal with the leap frog/lag fest that will be ToV.

This isn't plane of fear either. If some idiot from another guild trains even 2 cleric wurms in ToV, its going to be a wipe fest.

[king buzzo]

why is this under pvp rants and flames

[MavstabYoudead]

I personally think 50-60 is a great number for ToV.

The pals who came over here from blue do NOT want to go back and deal with the leap frog/lag fest that will be ToV.

This isn't plane of fear either. If some idiot from another guild trains even 2 cleric wurms in ToV, its going to be a wipe fest.

thanks for your expert analysis. those transfers will be back on blue day 1 when velious hits there and not here.

[Nirgon]

Yeah 450 in temple of veeshan and people leap frogging dragons

Oh boy which of the characters in my blue empire should I play for that

[FaithlessKR]

did I say we'd do it with 30? you don't need a guild your size to clear everything in velious, period.

also can't wait to see how many of your guild disappears when velious releases on blue and not on red. going to be glorious.

Here let me spell this out for you slowly so that you can understand this the third time you've seen me post it:




To clear high end velious mobs you will need at least 50ish toons (some mobs will need less later on in the expansion after players have more gear)
In order to fill these number requirements, guilds must recruit
If you only recruit towards the numbers you NEED to kill mobs, then you're already losing
You have to recruit beyond your number requirement for raids because people may leave, get bored, or have mobs fall into their work schedules


Lets use a stepping stone mob like Derakor the Vindicator as an example, as its a hard hitting, unslowable mob with roughly 10x the hp of kunark dragons


For this fight you ideally want to have 3 warriors on hand (rotate evasive/defensive), while you can tank without evasive/defensive it's not ideal and eating a bad round could ruin your day.
One needs to be tanking at all times with disc (backup tanks ready to pickup aggro, having started taunting throughout the fight) with another tank class soaking rampage (sk/pal are gr8), along with a healer dedicated to your rampage tank
Clerics must have a solid CH rotation set up, ideally with pause/tell macros and necros dedicated for dumping mana into them.


Now here's the catch to all of this

What happens when all of a sudden you only have 1 warrior and 1 paladin online and vindi is up?

What happens when you only have 1 dedicated cleric and someone with an alt cleric online?

Nobody is responding to the batphone because they're at work/with family

You can't even think about downing the mob even though its spawning and now someone else gets uncontested pixels. Good job, you're running an amazing guild.

[Nirgon]

Lets say a guild clears all (or the majority) of Lord/Lady dragons in ToV

Then the other snipes Vulak

Lawls.

Or one guild engages Aaryonar and others run past.

You think the complaining about people clearing fear on blue then a raid guild nailing CT is bad... you ain't seen 250 truly angry nerds before.

[MavstabYoudead]

game is much easier now than it was on live due to knowing game mechanics so much better. did everything in velious with 50 max before knowing about mallets, using charmed pets for insane dps, etc.

[daasgoot]

my favorite part is how holo leadership says they want pvp and wants other guilds to recruit so they can pvp over content.. then constantly slander's all other guilds on the server, while trying to steal their members.

that's my favorite part.

[MavstabYoudead]

Lets say a guild clears all (or the majority) of Lord/Lady dragons in ToV

Then the other snipes Vulak

Lawls.

Or one guild engages Aaryonar and others run past.

You think the complaining about people clearing fear on blue then a raid guild nailing CT is bad... you ain't seen 250 truly angry nerds before.

this is a pvp server you think people are just going to let you engage aaryonar and run past? maybe holo would do that for pixels but doubt anyone else would.

[FaithlessKR]

this is a pvp server you think people are just going to let you engage aaryonar and run past? maybe holo would do that for pixels but doubt anyone else would.

Think he's talking about blue man

[MavstabYoudead]

Think he's talking about blue man

talking about blue on a red pvp forum where he's trying to justify his guild size doing kunark content, gotcha...

[FaithlessKR]

talking about blue on a red pvp forum where he's trying to justify his guild size doing kunark content, gotcha...

You're the one who brought up our guild going back to blue, he's arguing reasons why they wouldn't....how shitty is your reading comprehension?

[FaithlessKR]

I personally think 50-60 is a great number for ToV.

The pals who came over here from blue do NOT want to go back and deal with the leap frog/lag fest that will be ToV.

This isn't plane of fear either. If some idiot from another guild trains even 2 cleric wurms in ToV, its going to be a wipe fest.

[Nirgon]

http://www.legacyofsteel.net/Archives/Post/2002-01-29


5) Tigole's Not So Popular Darwinistic Idea

This is my favorite but will never fly. I'll throw it out there for you all though. You want to make a patch-day cluster-fuck zone like North ToV? Fine. How about this. When VULAK is up in the Temple of Veeshan the zone becomes PvP. VI has THROWN US into a massive spawn competition yet gives us no means to settle disputes. We are not allowed to train, there are PnP rules, GM's do not get involved. We are left on our own with no way of settling our problems except *goodwill* and we all know goodwill and a quarter will buy you a phone a call.



You all have got morans in your brian if you think a server on this long of a time line is going to be a good blue experience without Sirken declaring disability and living Temple of Veeshan.

[Kergan]

Are they actually releasing Velious on blue before red?

[Nirgon]

Go raid beta Jib

10 guilds from Holo dont think so

[Slathar]

LOOKIN PRETTY BLUE IN HERE

[Nirgon]

There's several pvp change threads

This one is about dragons

Issue Slathar? Come home

[Slathar]

There's several pvp change threads

This one is about dragons

Issue Slathar? Come home

id join if every aussie in ur guild recites the pledge of allegiance to me in teamspeak and then lets me YT them one by one while i play from the high society Texas Roadhouse

your move

[Nirgon]

I'll see what I can do

[Pikrib]

I'll see what I can do

I think they only got two Aussies left. None with any self-respect. Looks like Slathar is gonna be in Holocaust by this afternoon. :(

[Nirgon]

Cut it out Pikker

[MavstabYoudead]

You're the one who brought up our guild going back to blue, he's arguing reasons why they wouldn't....how shitty is your reading comprehension?

we'll see when velious hits on blue and not red.

[Kergan]

why exactly do you keep saying that

[MavstabYoudead]

why exactly do you keep saying that

when did kunark start on blue and when did it start on red?

[Tassador]

we'll see when velious hits on blue and not red.

I heard this too I am fine with just kunark anyways.

[dontbanpls]

had moderate hopes for this thread but it is really boring now. ur velious no ur velious nah nah nee boo boo. ugh.

[Kergan]

when did kunark start on blue and when did it start on red?

What difference does that make? Both are way beyond the classic timeline and Velious would have been released on both long ago if the development was done.

[deadlycupcakez]

this thread made my heart swell

[LostCause]

kunark came out for red99 about 8-9 months after release.

which was sometime in 2012.

[HippoNipple]

kunark came out for red99 about 8-9 months after release.

which was sometime in 2012.

Sounds right, I thought it was summer

[Kergan]

Has any staff member even implied staggering Velious release could happen? Kunark was released on live April 24th, 2000 - Velious in December 5th of 2000. That's like 7 1/2 months. We're literally years past the original timeline delaying it would be fucking retarded.

[BeautBabeC]

Should be delayed on red till its 101% ready to go pvp wise

[Eslade]

Should be delayed on red till its 101% ready to go pvp wise

I agree

[Hyrugen]

Free chopper

[Troubled]

if i had a 0.25 k/d ratio on a bis char i'd also be mad, feels good swaying rags and zero epics yet still being the god damn best at clicking the buttons in the correct order, you feelers?

God it feels so bad to be mad.

[Humerox]

Should be delayed on red till its 101% ready to go pvp wise

amen

[Kergan]

Should be delayed on red till its 101% ready to go pvp wise

There are like 3 items that need to be looked at in PVP, not sure what Velious has anything to do with PVP beyond that? The only possible changes would be to the resist curve and/or melee damage in PVP and none of those things will have enough data points to make a call on where it needs to be until its gone live on r99.

So again, why delay it?

[BeautBabeC]

There are like 3 items that need to be looked at in PVP, not sure what Velious has anything to do with PVP beyond that? The only possible changes would be to the resist curve and/or melee damage in PVP and none of those things will have enough data points to make a call on where it needs to be until its gone live on r99.

So again, why delay it?

I honestly don't know what would need to be changed in regards to spells, items, zergs, ect. Just asking that everything is ready to go don't mind if it takes another 2 years. Hopefully its not rushed like vanilla release and exploited like nihilum / og holocaust did. please and ty. Long live da snout

[Kergan]

Anything that didn't come out in beta was due to the fact you didn't have a live server hammering on it, and that won't change with time. You aren't going to get more people beta testing at this point, there is no reason to delay it red vs blue. If it is ready for p99 it's ready for r99.

[BeautBabeC]

But you gotta admit knowing all of holo was disapointed feels some what rewarding

[Colgate]

what

[BeautBabeC]

God I'm so glad no one knows who I am after that post

[Buhbuh]

my favorite part is how holo leadership says they want pvp and wants other guilds to recruit so they can pvp over content.. then constantly slander's all other guilds on the server, while trying to steal their members.

that's my favorite part.

that has more to do with lite than anything else.

we mean it toward everyone not in azrael (Fresh, Friends hopefully), because lite's a raging egomaniac with no patience or foresight for anything, and he's driving his guild into the ground like he always does. i'm fascinated that you think he's anything beyond a competent player. the fact that you think he can actually pilot a guild effectively is astonishing.

i guess you'd need context - though you have to admit when all his pals (the entire core of his guild) left him, it was sort like throwing that context in your face.

[MavstabYoudead]

cyren how many guilds did you bounce to before you found a zerg that could get something done? give me a break.

[Pikrib]

Thats his cranky, was-awake-way-too-long-playing EQ, post. You will get no answer from him Madstab. Probably less guilds than me though =).

[Sektor]

Cyrens been bitter since Lite made him quit to play wow hehehe.

[heartbrand]

Cyrens been bitter since Lite made him quit to play wow hehehe.

lite griefed u into nihilum also

[Samsung]

lite griefed u into nihilum also

naw i wanted pixels

[Tomm Selleck]

when did kunark start on blue and when did it start on red?

Red wasnt even around when koobark released on blue. Maybe if you played on this project for >8 months you would have actually known that.

Ps. Reds classic Era was around for significantly less time than blue so it could catch up to blues current koobark content

[Samsung]

Red wasnt even around when koobark released on blue. Maybe if you played on this project for >8 months you would have actually known that.

Ps. Reds classic Era was around for significantly less time than blue so it could catch up to blues current koobark content

not sure if serious or retarded

[heartbrand]

not sure if serious or retarded

his post was 100% accurate

[MavstabYoudead]

Red wasnt even around when koobark released on blue. Maybe if you played on this project for >8 months you would have actually known that.

Ps. Reds classic Era was around for significantly less time than blue so it could catch up to blues current koobark content

Or because they had to code all of kunark first and then it was an easy thing to do on red? Probably had nothing to do with it right?

http://wiki.project1999.com/Players:EQLive_Timeline

[Archalen]

Red RnF goes down goog with a cup of coffee and a healthy stream of morning diarrhea.

[Kergan]

Like I've said a couple times, what difference does it make when Kunark was released on blue vs red? They are trying to emulate classic timelines, and we're well past them.

[MavstabYoudead]

Like I've said a couple times, what difference does it make when Kunark was released on blue vs red? They are trying to emulate classic timelines, and we're well past them.

lol at emulating classic timelines....

[Kergan]

They've done it when they have had the ability to do it. When item nerfs go in, quests change, etc. The only reason it wasn't done with Velious release was because development took so long.

[Buhbuh]

im currently LEVEL THIRTY FIVE ON WORLD OF WARCRAFT

[Kergan]

I just achieved paragon level 440 on D3.

[Glenzig]

Like I've said a couple times, what difference does it make when Kunark was released on blue vs red? They are trying to emulate classic timelines, and we're well past them.

No. They are emulating classic content. The amount of time it takes to do so is irrelevant.

[Kergan]

That isn't true at all. There are dozens of examples of them making changes to directly correspond to the live timeline.

[Glenzig]

That isn't true at all. There are dozens of examples of them making changes to directly correspond to the live timeline.

You're dumb.

[Kergan]

lol ok

[Glenzig]

:)