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Nirgon
03-20-2015, 11:01 AM
Is it illegal to have a P99 stream that accepts donations?

Is it illegal to have free item give aways at the end of every stream?

If no to both, is it then okay if my stream has a black out where the video doesn't load for oh say a year?
indiscriminate_hater
03-20-2015, 11:17 AM
roll red
maskedmelon
03-20-2015, 11:18 AM
These are good questions. That aside though, I just noticed something that I felt I ought to share. I just realized your name is an anagram of:

No Grin

D:





:D

I'm slow. I know.
indiscriminate_hater
03-20-2015, 11:20 AM
nor ***
perditionparty
03-20-2015, 11:38 AM
Posting to find out. My initial reaction is the first question is that it's not allowed (server rules aside). However, youtube people make bank playing video games and doing commentary over it so....
maskedmelon
03-20-2015, 11:48 AM
Is it illegal to have a P99 stream that accepts donations?

Is it illegal to have free item give aways at the end of every stream?

If no to both, is it then okay if my stream has a black out where the video doesn't load for oh say a year?

Cleverly masked RMT, eh? I hadn't thought about it when seeing those streams advertised, but this is a very interesting perspective. I definitely see the possibility for exploitation though.
Daldaen
03-20-2015, 11:54 AM
This strikes me as exceptionally unclassic.

I'm going to have to Veto on account of no precedence in 1999-2001.
Nirgon
03-20-2015, 12:07 PM
Play red, yes

This is a lightly veiled jab at something I suspect is already going on

People will go to great lengths to get their 1000+hour play time character banned over making a few hundred beans
Erati
03-20-2015, 12:13 PM
This strikes me as exceptionally unclassic.

I'm going to have to Vega on account of no precedence in 1999-2001.

ftfy

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/streetfighter/images/4/4f/Vega-wallhp.gif/revision/latest?cb=20111107151559
Swish
03-20-2015, 12:29 PM
http://media.giphy.com/media/2IfGNkvGZijgk/giphy.gif
maskedmelon
03-20-2015, 01:21 PM
If you're not exchanging anything how would it be considered a transaction and not a donation, which is exactly what it is. Good luck having anyone tune in. Watching p99 streams for less than 5 minutes made me realize why I stopped playing.

You won't be a full time streamer off of anything eq

If you are holding item give always each session and there is a donate button, then there is an avenue for discreet RMT in broad daylight ^^
Swish
03-20-2015, 02:26 PM
Tido had a good system running, I haven't seen him stream recently but he had a jboots MQ to give away and used his in stream currency to do it.

Essentially, the more you watched him stream the more currency you had (although you could gamble it and lose it all if unlucky :p)...so regular watchers had a good opportunity to win, and the "man off the street" still had a chance.

Donations were treated completely separately with no rewards, just as a way of saying thanks to him for his content (which is high quality!). http://media.giphy.com/media/FjeGBljESVAzu/giphy.gif

I think he even checked with the GMs to make sure what he was doing was legit and okay.

So if you run it along those lines I'm sure you'd be fine. There's enough RNF potential in the community to catch you RMT'ing and seeing you get banned if you stray off that path I'd say :)



Just as an aside... the best scheme to date was on red... where you could buy items for Sektor's wedding for pixels (Amazon wishlist style), and you can probably guess how that ended lol.
TrendyDru
03-20-2015, 04:31 PM
I'd have to agree with swish. There's a fine line with masking stream give aways with RMT and just doing give aways. But there's no real way to track it on the GM side. I've done give aways on my stream and I've gotten donations while streaming. GMs haven't made any rules against it but if you're concerned about it I'd PM one to cover your ass if you're worried or suspect foul play.
Kayd
03-20-2015, 05:16 PM
You can make money on people watching you play a game? I clearly went into the wrong business. I foolishly became and electrical engineer :)
Ravager
03-20-2015, 07:47 PM
Who in their right mind would pay someone to watch them play a video game when they can go over to their greasy neighbor's house and watch them play video games for free?
TrendyDru
03-20-2015, 08:15 PM
The top League of Legends streamers have 15k+ viewers and pull in over 300k a year through viewer donations.
fastboy21
03-20-2015, 10:10 PM
Who in their right mind would pay someone to watch them play a video game when they can go over to their greasy neighbor's house and watch them play video games for free?

its entertainment. the best channels are as much about the host personalities, guests, and talk as they are about the games. its more like watching a talk tv channel about a video game.

there are crappy ones too...but the top ones are actually worth while content to donate to if you are watching/enjoying them.
Kayd
03-22-2015, 03:22 PM
I was kidding. I can find a guide to the Exotic Drinks quest, no problem, but it is entertaining watching SuperBitsAndBob video run through. I wouldn't necessarily put it on in place of Netflix, but if you are already playing EQ having it in the background is interesting and informative.
Swish
03-22-2015, 06:34 PM
The top League of Legends streamers have 15k+ viewers and pull in over 300k a year through viewer donations.

The best ones are the CS:GO girls who get dressed up to go out... but sit and play CS:GO.

People lap that shit up.
GnashingOfTeeth
03-22-2015, 06:40 PM
The best ones are the CS:GO girls who get dressed up to go out... but sit and play CS:GO.

People lap that shit up.

Thats called a boob stream and usually result in horrid knuckle dragging chat.
Then they act offended, really? you are wearing a push up bra and daisy dukes and are hurt?
Shut up. Please don't sub these twits, its like a stripper, she will take YO money then go make out with her girlfriend back stage.
Swish
03-22-2015, 06:46 PM
Thats called a boob stream and usually result in horrid knuckle dragging chat.
Then they act offended, really? you are wearing a push up bra and daisy dukes and are hurt?
Shut up. Please don't sub these twits, its like a stripper, she will take YO money then go make out with her girlfriend back stage.

I lost it when someone I subbed to hosted one of them, and she came back to the computer and was eating a banana...can't make that shit up lol
Oleris
03-22-2015, 07:35 PM
I lost it when someone I subbed to hosted one of them, and she came back to the computer and was eating a banana...can't make that shit up lol

wheres the screen cap m8