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Raev
03-20-2015, 01:58 AM
We got Sontalak to 45% with 89k parsed melee damage. That puts him at 150k HP minimum and probably 200k when damage shields and wizard nukes are included, unless he has extremely high regeneration.

EQ Clerics (http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/archive/index.php?t-12899.html) and Allakhazam (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/npc.html?id=6466) both suggest he should have 100k HP exactly.

wycca
03-20-2015, 03:51 AM
Does seem high, but could also be substantial regen (something Yelinak and Tunare are known for historically I know, but not sure about Sont).

I'll ask around and see if we have any parses from our kills of him several months ago to see if info compares - maybe he got changed.

Treats
03-20-2015, 04:05 AM
We got Sontalak to 45% with 89k parsed melee damage. That puts him at 150k HP minimum and probably 200k when damage shields and wizard nukes are included, unless he has extremely high regeneration.

EQ Clerics (http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/archive/index.php?t-12899.html) and Allakhazam (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/npc.html?id=6466) both suggest he should have 100k HP exactly.

In his current state he should have like 500k HP anyway, hes a joke

Method
03-20-2015, 09:52 AM
He's no longer a joke now and needs to stay just the way he is, not every raid mob in velious has to be nerfed to the point they can be killed on day 1.

Raev
03-20-2015, 10:06 AM
Well, it was a 180s (30 tick) fight for us, so that would be 1.5k per tick. On the first page of Alla is a berserker who soloed him (granted, 2007, but):

"Sontalak parsed to 100khp and did about 250dps. Died in 53 seconds. Did not enrage."

At 1.5k / tick he would have parsed to 112k HP, and I don't think someone who posted about how he died in 53 seconds (and not 1 minute) would have rounded that.

I also grepped around for Sontalak's regeneration and did not find anything.

Also Treats/Method what on earth made you guys so salty? The point here is to be classic.

Nirgon
03-20-2015, 10:42 AM
should be 100khp and not whatever some eq emu fruit cake made it for his pals on a custom fail box

kind of like how some fruitcake made the poison flower give a CHA buff or something, don't got no place here u feel

Method
03-20-2015, 10:44 AM
Well, it was a 180s (30 tick) fight for us, so that would be 1.5k per tick. On the first page of Alla is a berserker who soloed him (granted, 2007, but):

"Sontalak parsed to 100khp and did about 250dps. Died in 53 seconds. Did not enrage."

At 1.5k / tick he would have parsed to 112k HP, and I don't think someone who posted about how he died in 53 seconds (and not 1 minute) would have rounded that.

I also grepped around for Sontalak's regeneration and did not find anything.

Also Treats/Method what on earth made you guys so salty? The point here is to be classic.

Just being salty cause i like a challenge ;D I've brought sontalaks hp values up to alunova and was told that HP values work different on this server then they did on live and that his HP value is adjusted to match the way this server works and not necessarily the way live worked.

Ele
03-20-2015, 10:45 AM
should be 100khp and not whatever some eq emu fruit cake made it for his pals on a custom fail box

kind of like how some fruitcake made the poison flower give a CHA buff or something, don't got no place here u feel

No manaburn crews here.

Nirgon
03-20-2015, 10:50 AM
No manaburn crews here.

That probably is why some fruitcake EQ Emu box raised his hp

You're a modern day EQ Thomas Edison

Thx for reporting this also Raev, good testing

Ele
03-20-2015, 11:51 AM
Haven't done much searching for Sont's total HP, mostly just the procs/ae/slowability, but at least on all the encounters I've parsed on Beta the HP numbers are way under reported due to the distance for picking up combat spam and the size/spread of people on the encounters.

Treats
03-20-2015, 03:09 PM
Also Treats/Method what on earth made you guys so salty? The point here is to be classic.

Killing Sontalak is not classic, thats the point.

Ever wonder why his HP was so low?

Sontalak did the highest overall DPS in the game, even through Luclin.

Ele
03-20-2015, 03:52 PM
Whaa? He was killed numerous times. He certainly wasn't easy or worth the effort if Zland, Kland, Lend, or Yelinak were available (outside of acquiring keys).

Afterlife killed Sontalak, game first, March 31, 2001 (http://www.afterlifeguild.org/template.cgi?page=index_jan_apr01)

35 Legacy of Steel kills Sontalak, server first June 6, 2001 (http://www.legacyofsteel.net/Archives/Post/2001-06-05)

Just a few easy references.

Nirgon
03-20-2015, 03:55 PM
Guilds finally put their disagreements aside and zerged these mobs

Here? We have 100+ fully dragon geared pals ready to roll at any point due to timeline

35 players killing Sont got damn

Treats
03-20-2015, 04:10 PM
Whaa? He was killed numerous times. He certainly wasn't easy or worth the effort if Zland, Kland, Lend, or Yelinak were available (outside of acquiring keys).

Afterlife killed Sontalak, game first, March 31, 2001 (http://www.afterlifeguild.org/template.cgi?page=index_jan_apr01)

35 Legacy of Steel kills Sontalak, server first June 6, 2001 (http://www.legacyofsteel.net/Archives/Post/2001-06-05)

Just a few easy references.

You put him on farm status here day 1.

Hes a 3 day spawn, enjoy your ST keys.

Ele
03-20-2015, 04:19 PM
You put him on farm status here day 1.

Hes a 3 day spawn, enjoy your ST keys.

Klandicar 3 day spawn too, for a while, and he is supposed to be easier than what is on beta now.

Raev
03-20-2015, 05:19 PM
You put him on farm status here day 1.

Hes a 3 day spawn, enjoy your ST keys.

I like him being as tough as possible

I like him being as classic as possible.

Ele
03-20-2015, 05:53 PM
None of the current mobs in Kunark are classic with their regen. Guess we gotta revamp all mobs then.

Yes it makes some engages harder. Yes it would be more classic to revamp the regen on these dragons. If you start revamping that because Sontalak is too hard with that regen we should revisit every mob currently in the game as well.

Let's.

Skydash
03-20-2015, 06:06 PM
Whaa? He was killed numerous times. He certainly wasn't easy or worth the effort if Zland, Kland, Lend, or Yelinak were available (outside of acquiring keys).

Afterlife killed Sontalak, game first, March 31, 2001 (http://www.afterlifeguild.org/template.cgi?page=index_jan_apr01)

35 Legacy of Steel kills Sontalak, server first June 6, 2001 (http://www.legacyofsteel.net/Archives/Post/2001-06-05)

Just a few easy references.

https://web.archive.org/web/20020618160208/http://www.clubfu.com/old_news.php?nid=26
June 7th, 2001 for Bristlebane

wycca
03-20-2015, 06:16 PM
I actually think Yelinak and Tunare's regen is too low vs. classic. =P

Method
03-20-2015, 07:02 PM
I actually think Yelinak and Tunare's regen is too low vs. classic. =P

I agree they should have a much higher regeneration rate, expecially tunare. She had a higher regeneration rate then anything in velious.