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TrendyDru
03-20-2015, 01:02 AM
If you are interesting in seeing more in-depth guides on how to set up and host streams please reply to this thread and I will certainly make it happen!

Who: I am Trendy. I have been streaming MMO's for over 3 years from smaller games such as The Witcher and Project 1999 to larger games like World of Warcraft, Aion (in its prime) and Star Wars Galaxies.

What: In this guide I will explain the differences and how to choose the right broadcaster for you. If this is something the community would like I can show easy set-up's for both broadcasters I describe below.

Where: Right fucking here, man...

When: After the conclusion of this thread I will follow it closely to see if it takes off. I will be answering questions either via PM or replies to this post.

Why: Streaming is such an amazing and exciting experience. I enjoy it most because you meet and interact with people you may never actually talk to in game. I've chatted and had regular visits and conversations with players spanning every aspect of the game. From people I've introduced to P99 (which is an amazing experience in itself) to end game elitist raiders in TMO and IB. Along with frequent visits from current and past GM's. <3

Below is a list of my computer spec's and internet upload/download speed. Both of which are important in order to host a successful stream.

Keep in mind. With my computer and internet I can host a 1080p resolution stream with music/youtube videos, webcam, and skype voice chat with no bandwidth interference. Additional computer usage like music, skype and even (yes) webcam may reduce quality and connectivity to your viewers.

My Computer Specs:

Processor: AMD FX-8300 Eight-Core Processor 3.30 GHz
Installed Memory (RAM): 16.0 GB
System Type: 64-bit Operating System, x64-based processor
AMD Radeon 2GB HD 7700 Series


You can find your computer specs by going to Control Panel > System and Security > System > and View basic Information about your Computer. (This may be important if you ask me later if you think your PC can handle streaming)

Internet Connection:

Download Speed: 59.60 MB/second
Upload Speed: 6.19 MB/second


I tested my speed using the Comcast Speed Tester located here: http://speedtest.comcast.net I am not sure if this is available to non-Comcast subscribers. (If this is the case I will find a neutral internet speed test that anyone can use)

These are the most important aspects of hosting a good stream. You must have a good computer to support the stream program and it capturing the game and your internet must be strong enough to support uploading the stream to the internet at real time.

90% of people can host a good stream with the computer they have. The issue is 1 of 2 things. Either A: They have low quality internet. Or B: They are running their stream at the wrong settings or too high of a resolution for their internet to keep up with (see A)

Below I will go over the two most commonly used streaming broadcasters and their pros and cons. YOU BE THE JUDGE!

Choosing your Broadcaster:

Xsplit Broadcaster
I use Xsplit Broadcaster. You can find the download link here: https://www.xsplit.com/download clicking on the BROADCAST button on the left. NOT Gamecast.

PRO:

Stream up to 1080p HD resolution (with subscription)
Fewer advertisements
Higher stream quality in same resolution
Very simple user interface and simple instructions. 1.2.3 up and running.
Tons of customization options (even more with paid subscription)


CON:

Highest quality comes at a price. (and that's $5/month)
More computer heavy. (takes a stronger PC to run at higher resolution)


With the free version you can stream at 720p HD quality or lower. with the paid version ($15 / 3 months) you can stream up to 1080p HD. which, lets be honest. is like watching TV. It's clear as shit. But if your computer and/or internet cannot handle streaming 1080p you are wasting your money and your stream will look like shit, or be constantly buffering for viewers.

OBS (Open Broadcasting System)

Website and choosing your OS here: https://obsproject.com/

PRO:

Free!
Support forums for questions
Less computer intensive (opens to a broader audience of potential streamers)


CON:

More complex set-up
Very basic stream set-up. not many customizable options.

Matthalas Winterheart
03-20-2015, 01:31 AM
Nice thread, thanks for posting. Would like to see you go more in depth. I stream @ http://www.twitch.tv/ariakas89 , but only have 11 followers. So always looking for help to get going.

Swish
03-20-2015, 05:49 AM
At 0.99MB upload is there any hope? Any hope at all? I've managed to get a super pixelated picture of Hearthstone up in the past but it wasn't what I'd call viewable.

Anything a guy can do at that speed? Smaller resolution or something?

maskedmelon
03-20-2015, 09:36 AM
Interesting. Good thread, very informative thank you Trendies. I do not stream, not have I watched someone else stream, though all the talk of it has piqued my interest ^^ Time to investigate!

Grimjaw
03-20-2015, 11:53 AM
are you rich from streaming?

Uuruk
03-20-2015, 03:33 PM
Please don't tell me this child neglector is streaming again.

TrendyDru
03-20-2015, 04:13 PM
Please don't tell me this child neglector is streaming again.

Judging by your avatar, you're a quality influence on the community. Yes, I stream on the weekends at night

TrendyDru
03-20-2015, 04:17 PM
At 0.99MB upload is there any hope? Any hope at all? I've managed to get a super pixelated picture of Hearthstone up in the past but it wasn't what I'd call viewable.

Anything a guy can do at that speed? Smaller resolution or something?

Few questions: do you share bandwidth with anyone else? Are you trying to run different things in the background like I was talking about in my post?

.99mb upload is kind of low. It is possible to stream at a low resolution though if you wanted to

Uuruk
03-21-2015, 03:07 PM
Judging by your avatar, you're a quality influence on the community. Yes, I stream on the weekends at night

No I was referring to the mutiple times you have been streaming and your kids are in the background wanting attention.

iruinedyourday
03-21-2015, 04:38 PM
WB trendydru!

GnashingOfTeeth
03-21-2015, 05:46 PM
Will you pass out on stream again? That was fun.

Oleris
03-21-2015, 05:53 PM
Will you pass out on stream again? That was fun.

:(

iruinedyourday
03-21-2015, 06:24 PM
heh we should do marathon grinds on twitch the last one awake wins all the loot collected.

I mean you guys should do that so i can watch the highlights.

TrendyDru
03-21-2015, 06:43 PM
Will you pass out on stream again? That was fun.

That is pretty much inevitable. Providing quality entertainment since 2011

TrendyDru
03-21-2015, 06:46 PM
No I was referring to the mutiple times you have been streaming and your kids are in the background wanting attention.

Are you still salty because you're the only one I've banned from my stream? And after every ban you remake twitch accounts only to get banned again?

Dedicated fan right there :)

Uuruk
03-21-2015, 09:59 PM
Are you still salty because you're the only one I've banned from my stream? And after every ban you remake twitch accounts only to get banned again?

Dedicated fan right there :)

This isint about me bud. This is about child neglect.

TrendyDru
03-22-2015, 09:00 AM
This isint about me bud. This is about child neglect.

It's funny that you say that. Even though I spend almost every day at practice with my oldest son in the off season teaching him how to be better at football. Because during the actual season I'm a coach on his pee-wee football team.

Also that my 5 year old tested into starting 1st grade and even higher in some levels and he's not even in kindergarten yet. (starts K this sept)

My 3 year old has the speech and numbers/letters/motor skills to start kindergarten. 2 years earlier than most children meet minimum requirements to start schooling.

I take my kids and my dog on a 1 mile walk every other day and choose to cook at home every night vs going out to dinner or getting fast food.

Really sounds like you don't know shit about my life and what happens when I'm not streaming. So take this how you want and troll how you want. I know I'm doing my shit right.

Why don't you try doing something productive with your time other than trolling my threads, while I am trying to get some more people interested in streaming P99 or just streaming in general.

This is the last reply you'll get from me. Get rekt nerd.

<3

Uuruk
03-22-2015, 06:14 PM
It's funny that you say that. Even though I spend almost every day at practice with my oldest son in the off season teaching him how to be better at football. Because during the actual season I'm a coach on his pee-wee football team.

Also that my 5 year old tested into starting 1st grade and even higher in some levels and he's not even in kindergarten yet. (starts K this sept)

My 3 year old has the speech and numbers/letters/motor skills to start kindergarten. 2 years earlier than most children meet minimum requirements to start schooling.

I take my kids and my dog on a 1 mile walk every other day and choose to cook at home every night vs going out to dinner or getting fast food.

Really sounds like you don't know shit about my life and what happens when I'm not streaming. So take this how you want and troll how you want. I know I'm doing my shit right.

Why don't you try doing something productive with your time other than trolling my threads, while I am trying to get some more people interested in streaming P99 or just streaming in general.

This is the last reply you'll get from me. Get rekt nerd.

<3

How does any of that change your kids wanting attention but you're just hammering away at elf sim?

Swish
03-22-2015, 06:30 PM
Few questions: do you share bandwidth with anyone else? Are you trying to run different things in the background like I was talking about in my post?

.99mb upload is kind of low. It is possible to stream at a low resolution though if you wanted to

Thanks mate... I don't share my bandwidth and have things like torrents turned off so there's nothing else going on. I'll keep experimenting.

TrendyDru
03-22-2015, 06:38 PM
Thanks mate... I don't share my bandwidth and have things like torrents turned off so there's nothing else going on. I'll keep experimenting.

Interested to know a few things. 1: do yo use cable or DSL? 2: do you wifi or hard wired into your PC. 3: if you're using wifi how far away from the router is your PC? Make sure you have the latest updates for your network card (even if its an onboard the drivers for your motherboard should include updates for your network card.)

What speed tester did you use? And when you use them it will ping your location to a certain place in another city. How far away is that city? I tried using one and the test city was like 2 states away so my MS and download/upload were waaay inacurate. The closer it is to you the more accurate your speed test will be.

Swish
03-22-2015, 06:44 PM
Interested to know a few things. 1: do yo use cable or DSL? 2: do you wifi or hard wired into your PC. 3: if you're using wifi how far away from the router is your PC? Make sure you have the latest updates for your network card (even if its an onboard the drivers for your motherboard should include updates for your network card.)

What speed tester did you use? And when you use them it will ping your location to a certain place in another city. How far away is that city? I tried using one and the test city was like 2 states away so my MS and download/upload were waaay inacurate. The closer it is to you the more accurate your speed test will be.

DSL / ethernet cable (5m)

speedtest.net

London is about 60 miles away.


http://www.speedtest.net/result/4233900887.png

Grimjaw
03-23-2015, 11:17 AM
basically what I get in Canada :(