View Full Version : What Holo would do if they were all like me
kildone
03-19-2015, 05:54 PM
Split like the monopolies of railroads and telephones were forced to. Then there could be four potential guilds fighting for raid mobs. Just seems like so much more fun to me.
kildone
03-19-2015, 06:02 PM
Cause I love to inspire posts like yours. Come back and Pvp sometime.
/who all Ridez
kildone
03-19-2015, 06:03 PM
Or just send me a tell I can port I will come to you.
Kergan
03-19-2015, 06:14 PM
why dont you make like a tree and leave
http://img.fark.net/images/cache/300/f/f4/fark_f4fe_VJr7bgWm106k1yToc6S7PI.gif?t=lPExm44VkJ1 hMU0KpKSLgg&f=1427083200
Zalaerian
03-19-2015, 06:40 PM
Railroads still have a monopoly.....
krazyGlue
03-19-2015, 06:42 PM
Railroads still have a monopoly.....
Not true
Zalaerian
03-19-2015, 06:50 PM
O really? Currently is split regionally with a "you stay in your area, I'll stay in mine" mentality that will always be backed by the gov't. NS controls the NE, UP the PAC NW to Chicago, BNSF So Cal to Chicago. CN is your only real Canadian option w some UP. Yea you have guys like CSX but they are paying NS and BNSF to run on their lines majority of the time anyway.
Colgate
03-19-2015, 06:52 PM
tbrz dropping mad railroad knowledge
feels weird tbh
Zalaerian
03-19-2015, 06:56 PM
The majority of freight that is moved across north America is done via rail. Alot of people think the railroads are some relic of the past for transportation. Those people are very wrong.
kildone
03-19-2015, 07:03 PM
http://img.fark.net/images/cache/300/f/f4/fark_f4fe_VJr7bgWm106k1yToc6S7PI.gif?t=lPExm44VkJ1 hMU0KpKSLgg&f=1427083200
Because people like you never have and never will have an influence on my actions.
kildone
03-19-2015, 07:12 PM
Railroads still have a monopoly.....
The key word is were. Referring to the original intent not the result.
I am sure if Holo, or the past guild of the same type or the yet to come version, were forced to split they would form little monopolies as you mentioned the railroads resulted in.
The key in what I would do if they were all like me is that it would be voluntary for the purpose of having more real pvp on this pvp server.
I do think that would be a great time for all. But they are not all like me. Someone recommended I try guild wars 2, looks pretty neat. Might try it if I get bored here.
Bardalicious
03-19-2015, 08:08 PM
Someone recommended I try guild wars 2, looks pretty neat.
Surely this person is not your friend and is trying to troll you.
Kergan
03-19-2015, 08:10 PM
Because people like you never have and never will have an influence on my actions.
Relax wasn't even referring to you.
kildone
03-19-2015, 08:41 PM
Relax wasn't even referring to you.
Ok my bad. In retrospect didn't seem like your style. I was just having fun and jumped to conclusions.
mrproudbeard
03-19-2015, 08:46 PM
O really? Currently is split regionally with a "you stay in your area, I'll stay in mine" mentality that will always be backed by the gov't. NS controls the NE, UP the PAC NW to Chicago, BNSF So Cal to Chicago. CN is your only real Canadian option w some UP. Yea you have guys like CSX but they are paying NS and BNSF to run on their lines majority of the time anyway.
Huh interesting... Is the cost of shipping on each line regulated or do they each charge their own rate?
kildone
03-19-2015, 08:51 PM
Surely this person is not your friend and is trying to troll you.
Oh damn really? Or maybe your trolling its sometimes really hard for me to tell. But I tend to believe you because I was just checking it out some more and it seems kinda like WoW on steroids and just a money making machine geared towards a wider market rather than a true world Pvp experience.
Although I must say I really enjoyed WoW during beta and early days on thunderlord before battlegrounds came out. I wasn't to crazy about the Pvp limitations of teams, no talking to the other side and protected zones but it seemed like a half decent way to stop "griefing"
I still wish someone would release a game line UO which I never knew existed until it was over.
Jimmybones
03-19-2015, 08:54 PM
The majority of freight that is moved across north America is done via rail. Alot of people think the railroads are some relic of the past for transportation. Those people are very wrong.
Railroads are the second largest mode of transportation of freight in North America. Trucking is still the largest.
"Trucks carry three-fifths of U.S.-NAFTA freight and are the most heavily utilized mode for moving goods to and from both U.S.-NAFTA partners. Trucks carried 59.2 percent of U.S.-NAFTA freight in July 2014, accounting for $30.5 billion of exports and $29.3 billion of imports.
Rail remained the second largest mode, moving 14.8 percent of all U.S.-NAFTA freight, followed by vessel at 9.1 percent, pipeline at 8.5 percent, and air at 3.4 percent. The surface transportation modes of truck, rail and pipeline carried 82.4 percent of the total U.S.-NAFTA freight flows (Table 2)."
Source - http://www.rita.dot.gov/bts/press_releases/bts045_14
Jimmybones
03-19-2015, 08:54 PM
THIS HAS NOW BECOME A LOGISTICS THREAD
Zalaerian
03-19-2015, 09:00 PM
Domestic freight possibly. Add in steamship containers, no way.
Zalaerian
03-19-2015, 09:05 PM
Also until just recently, only like a handful of Mexico carriers could meet DOT regulations, making inbound Mexican freight a pain in the ass due to the needed cross boarding. Most companies didnt want to put up w that BS and just railed into the US.
Zalaerian
03-19-2015, 09:12 PM
Huh interesting... Is the cost of shipping on each line regulated or do they each charge their own rate?
Technically no, the rails were deregulated in 1980s with motor carriers. Collusion creating a monopoly is a better description
kildone
03-19-2015, 09:19 PM
My post was half joke but we are so far from Pvp this thread needs to be moved to off topic. Kinda interesting but I'm a nerd irl that way.
Jimmybones
03-19-2015, 09:20 PM
Here are the statistics for inter-us shipping. Trucking is still by in large the most common way to move something across the United States. Railroads are more efficient but not as prevalent as the government would like it to be. The DOT has a ongoing campaign to shore up the railroad infrastructure in the U.S in order to make the leap from trucking to RR's.
http://www.rita.dot.gov/bts/sites/rita.dot.gov.bts/files/publications/freight_shipments_in_america/images/figure_03.gif
http://www.rita.dot.gov/bts/sites/rita.dot.gov.bts/files/publications/freight_shipments_in_america/html/figure_03.html
Zalaerian
03-19-2015, 09:24 PM
Also, currently the rails are running at like 28%. Norfolk and the rest of them want to keep it as low as possible while doing just enough that the gov't doesnt get involved and force them to increase cap.
Zalaerian
03-19-2015, 09:27 PM
Also Ames, they are defining rail as rail cars,tankers, ect. They are pulling intermodal out of that data (also old data @ 2002).
Nirgon
03-19-2015, 09:29 PM
Cazadero and San Pablo Railroad was a 60-kilometer (37 mi), 2 ft (610 mm) narrow gauge line built in 1896 as the Ferrocarril Cazadero La Torre y Tepetongo from an interchange with the Mexican Central Railroad (Ferrocarril Central Mexicano -- Ferrocarriles Nacionales de México after 1909) at Cazadero La Torre southwest through Nado to the sawmill community of San Pablo in Estado de México. Passenger service began to Nado in 1897. The line was reorganized as the Ferrocarril Cazadero y Solis in 1906. Lumbering and railroad operations were suspended during the Mexican Revolution; but the line resumed operations in 1922 as the Ferrocarril Cazadero y San Pablo. Thirty kilometers (18.6 mi) of logging branches were constructed around San Pablo. The forests were completely harvested, and operations ceased after World War II. Three locomotives surviving the revolution were sold to sugar plantations, but rails remained in place for another decade.
Kergan
03-19-2015, 11:44 PM
This thread has been derailed.
JackFlash
03-20-2015, 12:06 AM
This thread has been derailed.
Or maybe "railed"
confused.
hatelore
03-20-2015, 07:42 AM
wtf did i just reed~
Akalakamelee
03-20-2015, 08:02 AM
Blackburrow had some good trains.
Pikrib
03-20-2015, 08:18 AM
lol great thread. I just watched this shit literally get derailed.
Note to self~ Never bring up anything having to do with trains, rails, or maybe even Ayn Rand.
blammo
03-20-2015, 08:46 AM
when they were passing out brains you thought they said trains so you got on one and started riding around on it
krazyGlue
03-20-2015, 10:26 PM
I give up . I work for the railroad and didn't know all of that nor do I care . You must be some kind of rail buff
Genedin
03-20-2015, 10:28 PM
lol great thread. I just watched this shit literally get derailed.
Note to self~ Never bring up anything having to do with trains, rails, or maybe even Ayn Rand.
Nice
fred schnarf
03-21-2015, 12:10 PM
thank god we have unemployeds like jibekn and ames to google these topics and cut and paste the text here
what would we do without these guys i mean really?
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