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Agatha
03-17-2015, 12:05 PM
I post here in effort to cleanse this server of bad leaders/officers.


this server really needs to start thinking about rep and how that effects guilds, specially within leadership of the guilds on this server.


I write this with the hopes that people will investigate the leadership/officership of the guild they join, be it holocaust, azrael, flowers of happiness or what have you.


I want this server to thrive, i want rep to mean something, we cant just have people in position of leadership that go around supplying account info to people to delete. it's bad for server health and it's bad for the people of the guild they are officers of.

I hope everyone will rally around this cry for reform, rep must mean something on this server for it to thrive, we must cast out people who steal, cheat, provide account details for others to delete so they cant be traced back to it. LETS STAND UP FOR WHATS RIGHT.

to long has this server been the wild wild west were people do these things are cheered on, to long has this server been a place of rejects who thrive.

I SAY NO MORE, AND SO SHOULD YOU

Tune
03-17-2015, 12:09 PM
no one left willing to lead and put the time in

Agatha
03-17-2015, 12:19 PM
no one left willing to lead and put the time in

eh, i think holocaust has the cleanest record yet out of all guilds, they just have one bad apple.

to bad thats all it takes, 1 wrong word to the GM and your guild is disbanded. they need to right that wrong before he ends up fucking shit up.


the grandmaster has got to go.

Tune
03-17-2015, 12:21 PM
eh, i think holocaust has the cleanest record yet out of all guilds, they just have one bad apple.

to bad thats all it takes, 1 wrong word to the GM and your guild is disbanded. they need to right that wrong before he ends up fucking shit up.


the grandmaster has got to go.

hes not going anywhere

i think i tried to oppose him once and got banned 2 months

pras colgate , live long and prosper

dontbanpls
03-17-2015, 12:43 PM
no one left willing to lead and put the time in

I'm doing it Tune. Come join us for a while, you will change your mind.

hatelore
03-17-2015, 12:53 PM
Op should ask himself before posting the following questions:

"Have I ever cheated on p1999 and been banned?"

"Have I ever rmt'd and got caught and banned?"

"Does my name mean Asp, in any known language?"

"Have I ever been banned for any reason on p1999 for breaking the rules?"



Not saying you have done any of that, personally I don't even know you. I just think those are valid questions to ask before attempting to make posts about ethics is all.

hatelore
03-17-2015, 12:58 PM
If you answered yes to any of those questions, you may be a pos. refer to the Magic 8 ball for a definite answer.

kildone
03-17-2015, 02:27 PM
I like the idea. I still think it boils down to community feedback having meaningful consequences and a decent number of guides / GM willing to do what needs to be done. I mean this is a computer game, although I don't think code is the way to enforce policy it should be easy to code auditing to find the guilty and prosecute as long as there were enough people to use those tools / data.

erog84
03-18-2015, 06:31 PM
Op should ask himself before posting the following questions:

"Have I ever cheated on p1999 and been banned?"

"Have I ever rmt'd and got caught and banned?"

"Does my name mean Asp, in any known language?"

"Have I ever been banned for any reason on p1999 for breaking the rules?"



Not saying you have done any of that, personally I don't even know you. I just think those are valid questions to ask before attempting to make posts about ethics is all.

The OP can honestly say Yes to all those lol. People like Agatha and Max who come to the forum to preach about stopping all the bad things on the server when they are some of the most guilty parties is so comical.

dontbanpls
03-18-2015, 06:40 PM
thx 4 input friend

GradnerLives
03-18-2015, 06:48 PM
I post here in effort to cleanse this server of bad leaders/officers.


this server really needs to start thinking about rep and how that effects guilds, specially within leadership of the guilds on this server.


I write this with the hopes that people will investigate the leadership/officership of the guild they join, be it holocaust, azrael, flowers of happiness or what have you.


I want this server to thrive, i want rep to mean something, we cant just have people in position of leadership that go around supplying account info to people to delete. it's bad for server health and it's bad for the people of the guild they are officers of.

I hope everyone will rally around this cry for reform, rep must mean something on this server for it to thrive, we must cast out people who steal, cheat, provide account details for others to delete so they cant be traced back to it. LETS STAND UP FOR WHATS RIGHT.

to long has this server been the wild wild west were people do these things are cheered on, to long has this server been a place of rejects who thrive.

I SAY NO MORE, AND SO SHOULD YOU

Clicked on agatha thread expecting bergers.

Did not leave disappointed.

Tassador
03-18-2015, 06:50 PM
Lol, agatha is a professional everquest player. He has easily 100 chars and leaves about 6 in char login to juice up pop. Good luck!

Cranberwhey
03-18-2015, 07:47 PM
Lol, agatha is a professional everquest player. He has easily 100 chars and leaves about 6 in char login to juice up pop. Good luck!

pras

Rekrul
03-18-2015, 08:29 PM
GMs need to name and shame for every ill deed, otherwise events just become retarded spin-fests and blatant lies.

Qtip
03-18-2015, 09:04 PM
GMs need to name and shame for every ill deed, otherwise events just become retarded spin-fests and blatant lies.

Who cares just play the game. People getting into this shit like it's destroying your life.
Omg! Soandso was banned for training! Let me update my facebook status to happy!!!

Eslade
03-18-2015, 11:09 PM
didn't read a single post but I prefer zest. best soap ever.

Agatha
03-19-2015, 02:37 PM
what a nice avatar slater, nice nice.

this server really does need some fresh eyes and needs cleansing.

Nirgon
03-19-2015, 02:54 PM
You really shouldn't have gotten black listed from every current guild here after being given second chances

It isn't every officer/guild leader on this server, its you and I told you what would happen etc

Agatha
03-19-2015, 02:55 PM
what? i don't even know what your talking about nirgon, why would i need a second chance what did i do.

Nirgon
03-19-2015, 03:16 PM
now that makes it even worse

ElemtalRZ
03-19-2015, 03:20 PM
thecurse.guildportal.com
Come say hello sometime

Agatha
03-19-2015, 03:21 PM
hi Elemtal!

Drakaris
03-19-2015, 03:26 PM
You really shouldn't have gotten black listed from every current guild here after being given second chances

It isn't every officer/guild leader on this server, its you and I told you what would happen etc

It isn't hard to reroll anon and gear another character with the easier loots that ur guild can't be bothered black holing.

Besides personally I'm not investing anymore time into this game until shit is fixed.

Holo is just another power tripping corrupt-ass guild with no transparent dkp system and favoritism.

Nirgon
03-19-2015, 03:27 PM
Have fun getting back in line for the big pixels Drakaris

What does it matter if you have to wait 1 more week unless you're just frustrated with trying to get something so you can quit sooner?

Kind of smells like lack of dedication 2 me

You know how many Shroud of Veeshans, Yunnb's ears, BCGs and Azure Skies I've seen just walk da fuck out the door after being looted (Ex Nillies too, like all of em)? If anyone is getting griefed, its me putting in all the time and effort that I do pal

Plus? Even if I had all those items? I'd still be logging in and helping (like Gongshow/Colgate)

The truth is I don't mind sticking out the Kunark pixel grind so we can all see who is truly dedicated to the cause when its time to hand out the real shit come Velious

ElemtalRZ
03-19-2015, 03:30 PM
Whats up agatha :) Were ya been?

ElemtalRZ
03-19-2015, 03:38 PM
http://r99pvp.com/showguild.php?g=The+Curse

Cant believe I wasted 59 of my Pk's for holocaust. Only way to make up for it is to take those 59 kills back :)

Drakaris
03-19-2015, 03:59 PM
Have fun getting back in line for the big pixels Drakaris

What does it matter if you have to wait 1 more week unless you're just frustrated with trying to get something so you can quit sooner?

Kind of smells like lack of dedication 2 me

You know how many Shroud of Veeshans, Yunnb's ears, BCGs and Azure Skies I've seen just walk da fuck out the door after being looted (Ex Nillies too, like all of em)? If anyone is getting griefed, its me putting in all the time and effort that I do pal

Plus? Even if I had all those items? I'd still be logging in and helping (like Gongshow/Colgate)

The truth is I don't mind sticking out the Kunark pixel grind so we can all see who is truly dedicated to the cause when its time to hand out the real shit come Velious

If you still think it is about the sow sword it was never about it. It was people getting put at the front of the lines coz they had some shady dealings going on, such as rmt or favoritism (which in the past has been somehow affiliated with rmt). It was only going to get worse in velius and my time is worth more than that. I love helping people but what I see is a corrupt guild helping their core and friends while giving everyone else table scraps. I don't like that. If the dreyo/Burt and vapo thing never went down and if I didn't see half the shit I've seen, I would have waited it out, but u guys are shady as fuck and I expected better.

Tassador
03-19-2015, 04:07 PM
^energy drinks and sow swords

Nirgon
03-19-2015, 04:14 PM
If you still think it is about the sow sword it was never about it. It was people getting put at the front of the lines coz they had some shady dealings going on, such as rmt or favoritism (which in the past has been somehow affiliated with rmt). It was only going to get worse in velius and my time is worth more than that. I love helping people but what I see is a corrupt guild helping their core and friends while giving everyone else table scraps. I don't like that. If the dreyo/Burt and vapo thing never went down and if I didn't see half the shit I've seen, I would have waited it out, but u guys are shady as fuck and I expected better.

but if you had gotten the sow sword you would have stayed

or would you have left even if you were given it

I don't like either

Edit: I'm reminded that Colgate booted you

Drakaris
03-19-2015, 04:18 PM
but if you had gotten the sow sword you would have stayed

or would you have left even if you were given it

I don't like either

Edit: I'm reminded that Colgate booted you

Because I flamed him and said I was done.

The sow sword would have at least put me at mercenary status so to speak.

Nirgon
03-19-2015, 04:20 PM
o

like I said I've put in horrendous amounts of time and seen top pixels I'd love on my back basically vanish

but the guild succeeding is #1 to me and we are

Jimmybones
03-19-2015, 04:23 PM
o

like I said I've put in horrendous amounts of time and seen top pixels I'd love on my back basically vanish

but the guild succeeding is #1 to me and we are

I'd like to start a nirgon BCG fund to reward such an outstanding pillar of the everquest community.

I'll donate 5k to this fund in order to get it going.

Drakaris
03-19-2015, 04:24 PM
but if you had gotten the sow sword you would have stayed

or would you have left even if you were given it

I don't like either

Edit: I'm reminded that Colgate booted you

Forgot to mention I played in ruin / vindictive on sullon zek. I've looted primal, I've pulled flurry drakes, I've done all that shit. Why would I want to do it again with a corrupt-ass guild on an emu server?

Nirgon
03-19-2015, 04:26 PM
Forgot to mention I played in ruin / vindictive on sullon zek. I've looted primal, I've pulled flurry drakes, I've done all that shit. Why would I want to do it again with a corrupt-ass guild on an emu server?

i dunno why you played with Nizzar (tried to tell everyone not to) or thought Nihilum dkp counted in Holo

good luck in your quest for answers

I'd like to start a nirgon BCG fund to reward such an outstanding pillar of the everquest community.

I'll donate 5k to this fund in order to get it going.

rather you spent it on making your rogue as bad ass as possible to serve King Tormax

Drakaris
03-19-2015, 04:40 PM
i dunno why you played with Nizzar (tried to tell everyone not to) or thought Nihilum dkp counted in Holo

good luck in your quest for answers

Huh? Nihilum was transparent. You put in the time you got your gear and could see where you stood in the line.

The only person they were pretty harsh on was agatha and his bro. Don't forget nihilum let red dawn have front row seats to pixels against the majority of the neck beards desires. Something holocaust still hasn't done to this day for fresh.

Littlegyno 13.0
03-19-2015, 04:42 PM
Huh? Nihilum was transparent. You put in the time you got your gear and could see where you stood in the line.

The only person they were pretty harsh on was agatha and his bro. Don't forget nihilum let red dawn have front row seats to pixels against the majority of the neck beards desires. Something holocaust still hasn't done to this day for fresh.

Nihilum was transparent?

You kidding dude?

I love the Duke as much as the next Dukesmen, but DKP was fucked up, items sold out of the guild bank, pixels blackholed and you call it transparent?

Give me a break Drakar.

Drakaris
03-19-2015, 04:50 PM
Nihilum was transparent?

You kidding dude?

I love the Duke as much as the next Dukesmen, but DKP was fucked up, items sold out of the guild bank, pixels blackholed and you call it transparent?

Give me a break Drakar.

Guild bank covered all expenses? Id hate to know how many players that are geared to the teeth are rerolls.

Littlegyno 13.0
03-19-2015, 05:02 PM
Guild bank covered all expenses? Id hate to know how many players that are geared to the teeth are rerolls.

Items sold as in RMT and 'going' missing.

Drakaris
03-19-2015, 05:10 PM
Items sold as in RMT and 'going' missing.

Wasn't there a separate green scale incident involving heartbrand and another one of your guildies back when they were tagged nihilum?

I'd dig out the specifics from another thread, but I really can't be bothered right now.

The duke was a lot more fair than the circle jerk u got going on in holo. Why do u think most of the guild packed up and left except for the backstabbers and EQ die hards? Which bucket are you in gyno buddy.

Littlegyno 13.0
03-19-2015, 05:14 PM
Wasn't there a separate green scale incident involving heartbrand and another one of your guildies back when they were tagged nihilum?

I'd dig out the specifics from another thread, but I really can't be bothered right now.

The duke was a lot more fair than the circle jerk u got going on in holo. Why do u think most of the guild packed up and left except for the backstabbers and EQ die hards? Which bucket are you in gyno buddy.

You mean when Nizzar/Tune accusing heartbrand of stealing a green scale and it came out to be their butt buddy og nihilum Raze?

You mean that one?

The one where they let him stay in the guild???

You mean that green scale??????

Nirgon
03-19-2015, 05:15 PM
Elderan cooking the dkp books way better than Holo system

da fuk outa heer

Drakaris
03-19-2015, 05:21 PM
Elderan cooking the dkp books way better than Holo system

da fuk outa heer

One guy who had every drop in the game doctoring dkp for himself and only himself. God the scandal! He would go reroll and get every drop in the game all over again. Oh wait that's holo


Holocaust is officers involved in account strippings. Holocaust is people on the inside rerolling and regearing as new players. Holocaust is more than one officer black holing shit for secret alts.

Kergan
03-19-2015, 06:34 PM
I know the full story behind the Elderan thing and it's been blown way out of proportion. Not defending it just saying literally 0 items were given out to the wrong person because of it.

I saw loot distributed fairly over the course of 1+ year. Nihilum had its fleas but when you're getting every single item drop on the server for 2 years there is very little incentive to rock the boat. The closest I could come is every once in a while a group or individual would come along and all of a sudden we'd get DKP for powerleveling them, so I'm sure you can figure that one out. :)

Loot wasn't deleted in peoples faces either, that's a bunch of bullshit. No reason to keep up the propaganda machine against a dead guild guys, give it a rest.