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Lime
03-16-2015, 05:51 PM
So I was initially excited about velious having hopped back on the forums from a forumquest hiatus. Further investigation makes me less optimistic. It is abundantly clear that red has gone from a pvp server on launch to a personal pve server/rmt scheme during Nizzar's reign, to a blue server overflow raid server that currently exists. The poopsocking on blue has gotten so bad that red is a pretty large attraction and much less of a joke server that it used to be.

From a pve standpoint velious will offer raiders all the content they can stand, with years of 5 day a week raid schedules. The arms race of buildup will begin on day one with clean sweeps of velious mobs. Only problem is this arms race is on a 1 guild server with likely no serious pvp competition.

I have talked with many of the old school pvp players and few plan to play with even fewer willing to raid in velious.

I assume we can expect more blue players to migrate in the future as blue poopsocking intensifies, and people that actually enjoy pvp being unwilling to put in the recruiting and raiding needed to actually compete with the raid zerg that will steamroll everything with double to tripple the numbers the content was designed for.

Someone tell me I'm wrong, because I really hope that pvp brawls will happen on a scale that would make the server exciting, but I doubt there is enough people left on the server to contest the 125-200 man zerg that is going to happen on day one.

Galacticus
03-16-2015, 05:53 PM
Someone tell me I'm wrong

Could go either way.

Drakaris
03-16-2015, 05:57 PM
Lime,

You are on the ball here. PvP on this server will basically be 1-2 groups with faction looking to mess with raids with a 1 guild server running the shop.

You may get a #2 guild if players don't keep flooding to the #1 guild, but either way we have already seen the end of mass pvp on R99 in the past 6 months.

Rekrul
03-16-2015, 06:10 PM
Zones will be even more empty than they are now, pvp on the scale you wish for won't happen, bc it isn't even happening now despite some nerds doing the same boring content for years and years now.

Its been proven here that zerging is the easiest and best way to dominate the raid scene, and it will only intensify when winter comes.

Alliances will need to be formed to challenge the zerg, but with each passing week those challenging guilds will lose members to holo as ppl get bored of not being able to have a chance against them.

You're looking at a ~300 max at any time population, with a large zerg and a bunch of people that only want to shit on each other nonstop and mostly avoid pvp. This server is pretty boring and not really worth investing time into, unless you wanna join holo to look at some raid content with 3x the numbers needed for it.

Its fun to join a guild like foh and just do whatever and not worry about the shitfest that is the majority of this server.

Littlegyno 13.0
03-16-2015, 06:10 PM
http://i.imgur.com/xvVePno.jpg

shalom

daasgoot
03-16-2015, 06:20 PM
pvp already dead.

welcome to blue99-2.0

Marqus
03-16-2015, 06:23 PM
To be honest, Tantors Tusk is the death of pvp... or rather... that melee will be able to roll any caster. Casters will be rolled even harder than they were before.

Ezalor
03-16-2015, 06:25 PM
there's very little pvp culture on this server

it's basically a server for blue players who want to be a "big fish in a small pond" at this point

heartbrand
03-16-2015, 06:28 PM
Agree with OP, but the blame lies on the ineptitude of the competition here who would rather fight amongst themselves than the enemy.

Littlegyno 13.0
03-16-2015, 06:35 PM
Gratz on all dat loot dawg it clearly improved your pvp game

http://r99pvp.com/showplayer.php?p=Dongshow

You are living proof that you can't even buy PvP skills.

http://i.imgur.com/xvVePno.jpg

see the aons?

Buhbuh
03-16-2015, 06:50 PM
it's like a glorious mohawk

jesus should have worn that, maybe his story would've been longer

alas, heathens saw his nameplate, and he perished.

Rekrul
03-16-2015, 07:10 PM
Agree with OP, but the blame lies on the ineptitude of the competition here who would rather fight amongst themselves than the enemy.

If someone is opposed to zerging, you can't reasonably expect them to want to form a zerg to fight your zerg.

Wish az/friends/fresh would merge tho, then we can stop calling holo a zerg and the server can be properly at war.

Gonna have to at least wait until fresh dies tho, since obviously max is still unstable/crazy, anyone who knows him has started to see his psychosis bleeding thru the veil of change and nobility more and more. It's only a matter of time, hopefully holo doesn't get all of fresh's members.

Lasher
03-16-2015, 07:17 PM
Azrael is getting braver. I think they will shake things up again

bouncerr 2.0
03-16-2015, 07:21 PM
was just talking about this today, sadly server looking worse day by day, log on after a few months and see 100 people idont even know with epics, every zone i go to is holo with no pvp. not hating at all but someone needs to seriously make this server red again.

Buhbuh
03-16-2015, 07:29 PM
not if we can help it

#stopburgerking2015
#nopvpnocry
#slayingdragons
#autismawareness

Lasher
03-16-2015, 07:31 PM
On primetime raid hours id say holo is 70 and the pop is over 300 at those times.

There is so much potential for guilds to recruit.

bouncerr 2.0
03-16-2015, 07:37 PM
its not recruiting its finding a leader that will stay around and not leave randomly for 1-3 months at a time and has the neckbeard time to lead.

Littlegyno 13.0
03-16-2015, 07:41 PM
its not recruiting its finding a leader that will stay around and not leave randomly for 1-3 months at a time and has the neckbeard time to lead.

v true.

luckily holocaust has PixelSmaug Gongshow the Great.

Sweetbaby Jesus
03-16-2015, 07:43 PM
This is why sirken needs to unleash Nizzar on this server and let a competiton guild form to battle holocaust.

Nirgon
03-16-2015, 07:48 PM
there will be enough pvp in Velious

FaithlessKR
03-16-2015, 08:28 PM
If someone is opposed to zerging, you can't reasonably expect them to want to form a zerg to fight your zerg.

Wish az/friends/fresh would merge tho, then we can stop calling holo a zerg and the server can be properly at war.

Gonna have to at least wait until fresh dies tho, since obviously max is still unstable/crazy, anyone who knows him has started to see his psychosis bleeding thru the veil of change and nobility more and more. It's only a matter of time, hopefully holo doesn't get all of fresh's members.

Come velious I'd like to see these guilds of 20 people try to down any meaningful mob. Holo is ahead of the curve in prepping for velious and the other 3 guilds are snoozing right now.

They need to swallow their anti-zerg pride...because without more members they might as well quit the server and play on devnoob's box where you can do content with less people, or be content with never having any velious loot and farming kunark mobs for the rest of their lives.

Bazia
03-16-2015, 08:40 PM
There is no pvp, after I left Holo (Which I really enjoyed being in) so I could pvp more since most the server was in my guild, I would find 1-3 people in random zones and they would just insta-gate or insta-camp/plug until a group of people could port in and chase me away. They had no interest in pvp at all.

Zerging is always what happens here and is why I have to take long breaks in between playing because it gets boring as fuck either being in the zerg or getting zerged.

krazyGlue
03-16-2015, 08:40 PM
...

dontbanpls
03-16-2015, 08:40 PM
<Fresh> steady recruiting and plvling bringing the peasants up to kingly status see yall in velly

krazyGlue
03-16-2015, 08:42 PM
<Fresh> steady recruiting and plvling bringing the peasants up to kingly status see yall in velly

Don't tell me you tricked another 30+ players onto your "batphone"

magician
03-16-2015, 08:44 PM
no hair dont care plz touch my dairyair

fiegi 8.0
03-16-2015, 09:09 PM
big lime keeping it real

Kergan
03-16-2015, 09:14 PM
It's been over a year since we've seen any real mass PVP and it was only about 2-3 fights between Azrael and Nihilum when Nizz came back. Unfortunately Azrael had to have about 95% of their members online to field 40+ and it wasn't even phasing Nihilum to bring 50+.

I think it might have been better for the server long term if Nihilum had lost those battles and pushed people to the opposition instead of the other way around, but that isn't how it happened.

TLDR: there hasn't been meaningful PVP on R99 in over a year, hard to kill something that is already dead.

pingpong
03-16-2015, 09:19 PM
Come velious I'd like to see these guilds of 20 people try to down any meaningful mob. Holo is ahead of the curve in prepping for velious and the other 3 guilds are snoozing right now.

They need to swallow their anti-zerg pride...because without more members they might as well quit the server and play on devnoob's box where you can do content with less people, or be content with never having any velious loot and farming kunark mobs for the rest of their lives.

sorry dude why would anyone join a 20-25 person guild that struggles for pixels when they can join a 100 person guild that gets more than 4 times as many pixels as the 25 person guild. at this point all other guilds are trying to recruit (fresh + azr at least), but all the warm bodies line up for the established zerg. why would someone new to the server want to work for pixels when they can just have an epic and dragon loot handed to them in holo?

at some point the onus is on the 100 person guild to do what is right for the server and stop the open door recruiting policy

Humerox
03-16-2015, 09:22 PM
Don't tell me you tricked another 30+ players onto your "batphone"

Exactly the reason the zerg continues to win. People can't give up grudges over ancient history.

<Fresh> is fighting the good fight.

dontbanpls
03-16-2015, 09:27 PM
sorry dude why would anyone join a 20-25 person guild that struggles for pixels when they can join a 100 person guild that gets more than 4 times as many pixels as the 25 person guild. at this point all other guilds are trying to recruit (fresh + azr at least), but all the warm bodies line up for the established zerg. why would someone new to the server want to work for pixels when they can just have an epic and dragon loot handed to them in holo?

at some point the onus is on the 100 person guild to do what is right for the server and stop the open door recruiting policy

I think the main reason is fun. Fun is completely lost in holocaust. It is baffling but despite getting all the loot it seems like the majority of members aren't having much fun. It is a lot like when nihilum was in charge and everyone was bored and only logged in for raids.

<Fresh> is putting fun first. We are creating an environment where people are able to log in and enjoy each others company. We are growing every day, and soon enough we will be tipping the scales with normal people who just want to help each other. We do not just push everyone through the grinder, if someone is going to be an asshole to other guild member we don't feel like they deserve our help, and we let them find another way.

If people really want to see something different on this server they need to make it a reality. Complaining on the forum only accomplishes so much. For every hundred posts we will be lucky to find that one sways someones opinion in another direction. We will speak for ourselves with our actions.

Rekrul
03-16-2015, 09:40 PM
This will allow him to get an extra lure or two off. You multiply that by 80, you've got a good shot at a victory. You are not seeing the bigger picture or their objective, and that's why just like God's work, you allowed your guild to be used to zerg Azrael, the only PVP guild on red.

Worry about your own guild, you have a lot of very cool people in it and a very good thing going on. Some of the reddest mofos on this box are currently fresh, not even joking.


shut the fuck up if anything I used them to exact revenge on your fucking ass you piece of shit i hope you fucking die irl from aids after getting brutally raped

Nice, non-insane response there, i'm sure you're inspiring many people to join your guild.

It really looks like you're putting fun first...


Exactly the reason the zerg continues to win. People can't give up grudges over ancient history.

<Fresh> is fighting the good fight.

Yes, ancient history, he's totally not the same person.

krazyGlue
03-16-2015, 09:45 PM
Exactly the reason the zerg continues to win. People can't give up grudges over ancient history.

<Fresh> is fighting the good fight.

I think it's ok to hold a grudge against someone that called / emailed me 50 times a day all day a night for a good 3 months about something I had nothing to do with .

Humerox
03-16-2015, 09:55 PM
stuff

It's apparent from your posts that you don't really know anything about <Fresh>. We're not bleeding out and dying...actually our roster continues to grow every day. We've lost none of our core members. The few bluebies that have gone to <Holocaust> weren't up to par for us, anyway.

We're closer to being able to legitimately contest than anyone ever has been. If <Fresh> ends up failing it'll be the loss of the server's last, best hope for real contention.

Not_Kazowi
03-16-2015, 09:57 PM
What do you expect? This server has always been this way and always will. People cup their nuts in fear so hard here it's gross. Everyone is worried about their ego over emulated elf ques, to go out on a limb and risk losing a pvp battle would mean bringing shame to your family name or something. I've seen some spurts of PVP battles but it usually ends in one side getting emo and quitting.

This is a niche game and server that is going to slowly dwindle away over time. There are not any new younger people coming to play Eq emulator. The rest of us that have been playing this shit for years are falling off the map slowly due to marriage jobs kids etc.

philjackson
03-16-2015, 10:04 PM
What do you expect? This server has always been this way and always will. People cup their nuts in fear so hard here it's gross. Everyone is worried about their ego over emulated elf ques, to go out on a limb and risk losing a pvp battle would mean bringing shame to your family name or something. I've seen some spurts of PVP battles but it usually ends in one side getting emo and quitting.

This is a niche game and server that is going to slowly dwindle away over time. There are not any new younger people coming to play Eq emulator. The rest of us that have been playing this shit for years are falling off the map slowly due to marriage jobs kids etc.

I miss u rexx

anytime u wanna join elfpals u send cast_eq an aim msg, i'll keep this thing running for decades so whenveru wanna pop in u let me know big dawg

FaithlessKR
03-16-2015, 10:35 PM
sorry dude why would anyone join a 20-25 person guild that struggles for pixels when they can join a 100 person guild that gets more than 4 times as many pixels as the 25 person guild. at this point all other guilds are trying to recruit (fresh + azr at least), but all the warm bodies line up for the established zerg. why would someone new to the server want to work for pixels when they can just have an epic and dragon loot handed to them in holo?

at some point the onus is on the 100 person guild to do what is right for the server and stop the open door recruiting policy

Friends is composed of some of the best pvpers on the box, I can see plenty of reason why someone would want to join that guild. The problem is that they are the 2nd best guild and don't want to field more than 30 people.

Azrael had a good chance to be up there also, but from what I hear they keep shooting themselves in the foot (hello dkp system used as a recruitment tool when you're not getting loot?).

Fresh is sadly the server's best hope right now, as they are the only guild willing to recruit the amount of people needed to do velious content. Even if Max has stability issues, he's the only one taking the necessary steps to get his guild ready for velious.

Not_Kazowi
03-16-2015, 10:44 PM
I miss u rexx

anytime u wanna join elfpals u send cast_eq an aim msg, i'll keep this thing running for decades so whenveru wanna pop in u let me know big dawg

Gotta respect what you're doing bud I'll drop in sometime

vouss
03-16-2015, 11:56 PM
It ain't gonna happen if a 2nd guild popped up started contesting and winning, the landslide of warmbodies would shift from guild #1 to guild #2 after a couple weeks.

When holocaust was first entering veeshans peak and we had a couple throwdowns over Phara Dar it took 2 weeks (1 loss, 1 weekend not contesting) for 10 people to leave Azrael and join Holocaust citing reasons like the core not caring about those who havent gotten "BiS" yet, or the guild being dead.

I personally put a ton of effort into the contesting at that time, - but I really had to drag with me into VP all the people who shortly after left to raid uncontested in holocaust or take a break from r99 untill Azrael found ourselves in a more favorable position again.

Barladore
03-17-2015, 12:22 AM
It's been over a year since we've seen any real mass PVP and it was only about 2-3 fights between Azrael and Nihilum when Nizz came back. Unfortunately Azrael had to have about 95% of their members online to field 40+ and it wasn't even phasing Nihilum to bring 50+.

I think it might have been better for the server long term if Nihilum had lost those battles and pushed people to the opposition instead of the other way around, but that isn't how it happened.




While there was some mass pvp more recently (mentioned above in Beastagor's post - praise him). This was the most accurate and least bias post you've ever made in regards to that topic. Impressed.

Littlegyno 13.0
03-17-2015, 12:25 AM
It ain't gonna happen if a 2nd guild popped up started contesting and winning, the landslide of warmbodies would shift from guild #1 to guild #2 after a couple weeks.

When holocaust was first entering veeshans peak and we had a couple throwdowns over Phara Dar it took 2 weeks (1 loss, 1 weekend not contesting) for 10 people to leave Azrael and join Holocaust citing reasons like the core not caring about those who havent gotten "BiS" yet, or the guild being dead.

I personally put a ton of effort into the contesting at that time, - but I really had to drag with me into VP all the people who shortly after left to raid uncontested in holocaust or take a break from r99 untill Azrael found ourselves in a more favorable position again.

maybe nobody wanted to be in a guild that treated them like shit to gear up lite and his buddies while inviting people like sektors/borbb

dontbanpls
03-17-2015, 01:21 AM
We went 25 v 60 in fear the other day yall are just a bunch of whiny pussies

pingpong
03-17-2015, 01:27 AM
maybe nobody wanted to be in a guild that treated them like shit to gear up lite and his buddies while inviting people like sektors/borbb

biggy edward jody stasis pretty much jumped ship immediately as soon as another feasible option was available that wasn't nihilum. yea those guys never got anything good out of azrael

Tune
03-17-2015, 01:35 AM
ill prolly play again when the holo zerg dies down, when most of their core gets maxed geared, bored and quits and basically no one cares about the server years after velious

Colgate
03-17-2015, 01:57 AM
ill prolly play again when the holo zerg dies down, when most of their core gets maxed geared, bored and quits and basically no one cares about the server years after velious

don't kid anyone, you quit because your characters got banned for botting

Tune
03-17-2015, 01:59 AM
never said i quit

Kergan
03-17-2015, 02:01 AM
While there was some mass pvp more recently (mentioned above in Beastagor's post - praise him). This was the most accurate and least bias post you've ever made in regards to that topic. Impressed.

No reason to FQ for a dead guild. :)

pingpong
03-17-2015, 02:16 AM
don't kid anyone, you quit because your characters got banned for botting

man you sure sounded different when Tune and his ex nihi buddies were propping up the early holo zerg against azrael.

Kergan
03-17-2015, 02:40 AM
Friends probably best thing to happen to this server in a while. Made Lite finally recruit and contest. :)

Drakaris
03-17-2015, 03:09 AM
man you sure sounded different when Tune and his ex nihi buddies were propping up the early holo zerg against azrael.

I felt betrayed when I first saw tune with an azrael tag, but apparently a lot of shit went down when I took a break for health reasons. They got him banned over a legitimate in game macro being activated by a gaming keyboard.

Holocaust is toxic as hell.

For real.

FaithlessKR
03-17-2015, 03:12 AM
I felt betrayed when I first saw tune with an azrael tag, but apparently a lot of shit went down when I took a break for health reasons. They got him banned over a legitimate in game macro being activated by a gaming keyboard.

Fuck Holocaust.

For real.

https://rozannepink.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/republican-cry-baby-gif.gif

Colgate
03-17-2015, 03:35 AM
yeah man, 2boxing a cleric with a script to make it automatically cast a complete heal and sit down during the cast was totally legitimate and not banworthy

Akalakamelee
03-17-2015, 04:39 AM
yeah man, 2boxing a cleric with a script to make it automatically cast a complete heal and sit down during the cast was totally legitimate and not banworthy

Rustled.

Zemgus
03-17-2015, 05:39 AM
yeah man, 2boxing a cleric with a script to make it automatically cast a complete heal and sit down during the cast was totally legitimate and not banworthy

this new? first time hearing this.

hatelore
03-17-2015, 07:16 AM
http://i.imgur.com/9vjCDf1.gifhttp://i.imgur.com/9vjCDf1.gifhttp://i.imgur.com/9vjCDf1.gif

lol, that's just cold hearted.

Bardalicious
03-17-2015, 09:55 AM
I had a little hope for the server after leaving holo and seeing that Fresh is actually standing their ground to PvP and clear planes to gear members. And having a nbg roll system for loot is the only truly incorruptible way of doing it.

But Max needs to keep his emotions in check before he ruins a good thing. His best bet would be to pass off raid and PvP leading off to officers while he maintains a lower profile outside of promoting the guild and such. Then Fresh would stand a good chance come Velious.

Kergan
03-17-2015, 10:02 AM
I dunno, I disagree. Max's hatred for everything Azrael is probably the only thing that has prevented Lite worming his way into the guild and destroying it like he has done for several of the other up and coming guilds.

Kergan
03-17-2015, 10:59 AM
Jib just calm down you're acting rustled as hell

inb4 not rustled claims

Kergan
03-17-2015, 11:01 AM
You know that if sperging out on the forums makes you smile that is an indication of a severe mental disorder.

Seek help

Kergan
03-17-2015, 11:09 AM
chortled

Tune
03-17-2015, 11:47 AM
yeah man, 2boxing a cleric with a script to make it automatically cast a complete heal and sit down during the cast was totally legitimate and not banworthy

must be mistaken i dont box pal

i have a g15 keyboard tho

SHOWITME
03-17-2015, 11:49 AM
velious only death of pvp cause u will have one guild in velious raid armor and the other guild in kunark group gear with some pog or kael armor scattered in, and not much more.

gear gap will be too big to compete

Nirgon
03-17-2015, 11:52 AM
must be mistaken i dont box pal

i have a g15 keyboard tho

Thing about guys like you is you don't have to cheat to be successful in Norrath. Nizzar didn't have to either. So why risk it?

Tune
03-17-2015, 11:54 AM
Thing about guys like you is you don't have to cheat to be successful in Norrath. Nizzar didn't have to either. So why risk it?

how about u define cheating

and then put that in scope with the rest of the server

then talk about selective enforcement

dontbanpls
03-17-2015, 12:07 PM
how about u define cheating

and then put that in scope with the rest of the server

then talk about selective enforcement

U mean like boxing, training, ghosting ??? That's a really good point to be honest. I'll change my mind as soon as Lite and all of the shared toons in azrael take that permaban for boxing, training raids starts being enforced routinely, and well let's not even delve deep enough to get into the rest of it.

Tune
03-17-2015, 12:11 PM
U mean like boxing, training, ghosting ??? That's a really good point to be honest. I'll change my mind as soon as Lite and all of the shared toons in azrael take that permaban for boxing, training raids starts being enforced routinely, and well let's not even delve deep enough to get into the rest of it.

i agree with u sir

Tune
03-17-2015, 12:16 PM
your g15 keyboard required you to write a script? coolstory jk

na i don't know how to write scripts

SS clearly shows i have no clue what im doing

never did get that to work, must be bc im a meat head

furthermore even if i did

does your 1 brain cell inbred mind realize that a g15 keyboard technically does the same thing as any key pressing program???

fred schnarf
03-17-2015, 01:08 PM
<Fresh> steady recruiting and plvling bringing the peasants up to kingly status see yall in velly

fresh has alot of great people and is quite big, noah is a good co leader but he is euro time. The problem max is that you have too much ego and you are in fact insane.

The guild currently has no leadership, hence why they arent doing things.

Nirgon
03-17-2015, 01:10 PM
I'm talking about your level of investment and guarantee of victory, Tune

I'm not comparing you to the random scummy Joe here

You had absolutely no reason to box (others do), you had everything on this server. What in the fuck was the point to keep pushing the envelope when you're already that far on top? I can see why against Holo 1.0 and a real threat you might have needed to cut some corners, but why create any opportunity to get completely whacked given the position you were in before D3 and shortly thereafter pre-Duke ban? You had a much more concentrated loot system than us (most per capita BIS toons per guild probably) and several years of uncontested farming. All you had to do was not get banned and ride the wave to Velium victory.

So again. Why risk it? I guess the take away is others observed your pattern of success and cut out all the obvious things that would kill it.

Tune
03-17-2015, 01:14 PM
I'm talking about your level of investment and guarantee of victory, Tune

I'm not comparing you to the random scummy Joe here

You had absolutely no reason to box (others do), you had everything on this server. What in the fuck was the point to keep pushing the envelope when you're already that far on top? I can see why against Holo 1.0 and a real threat you might have needed to cut some corners, but why create any opportunity to get completely whacked given the position you were in before D3 and shortly thereafter pre-Duke ban? You had a much more concentrated loot system than us (most per capita BIS toons per guild probably) and several years of uncontested farming. All you had to do was not get banned and ride the wave to Velium victory.

So again. Why risk it? I guess the take away is others observed your pattern of success and cut out all the obvious things that would kill it.

i didn't box? lol

Nirgon
03-17-2015, 01:19 PM
You had everything in the bag, what's the point of rolling the dice for something you already have?

For instance, the Holo 1.0 exploit Naggy kill. We're on the ropes there. Another guild of similar dedication (members in lvl 50 club real early) was pulling Naggy kills with like 10 people, many under lvl 49 and 0 resist gear using an exploit (obvious from screen shots). More important than just killing the dragon, they were the "go to" choice for top time investors because they were raking in the all pixels early.

Given the choice of death, or try to get away with the same thing as the other guy... we didn't choose death.

You guys didn't really have that problem, and you didn't have to do anything over the line to win. Everything was safely in the bag, you had the right players secured and pixels dripping from your bank let alone your top players. See the point of my question here?

Tune
03-17-2015, 01:24 PM
how did i roll the dice? im confused

Humerox
03-17-2015, 01:34 PM
fresh has alot of great people and is quite big, noah is a good co leader but he is euro time. The problem max is that you have too much ego and you are in fact insane.

The guild currently has no leadership, hence why they arent doing things.

The only thing we're not doing is going in to contest dragons. You have to be ready for that. <Fresh> doesn't have all the old <Nihilum> <Holocaust 1.0> BiS toons to compete with. We started with new people and rags; we're just now becoming level competent to contest.

Max listens to his officers and knows what he needs to do, and so do we. What this server's problem is people not willing to work together (and I say this about all sides) to stop a zerg. Everyone wants to wait for Velious (where they're not going to be able to compete against <Holocaust's sheer numbers) . <Fresh> is the only guild that will be able to make any kind of difference...and whether you like the guild leader or not really doesn't make a difference when he's not running the guild like a dictator. There are a LOT of cool people in <Fresh> and the idiots and bluebies always weed themselves out.

Max is the GL of <Fresh> but his officers run the guild with him, make no mistake.

Arclyte
03-17-2015, 01:54 PM
Why would it matter how many people are on this server to kill NPCs?

If you truly fashion yourself as a PvP diehard, the more people on the red server the better, regardless of what they're doing or why they're here. A lion isn't going to bitch about there being too many gazelle to eat.

Nirgon
03-17-2015, 02:02 PM
yeah how did you guys all get banned im confused lemme know what pans out, forget I asked

Humerox
03-17-2015, 02:07 PM
A lion isn't going to bitch about there being too many gazelle to eat.

sometimes 100+ gazelle log in to graze then log off again until the next feeding time. the lions pick off one or two in the meantime but continue to stay hungry

fred schnarf
03-17-2015, 02:41 PM
The only thing we're not doing is going in to contest dragons. You have to be ready for that. <Fresh> doesn't have all the old <Nihilum> <Holocaust 1.0> BiS toons to compete with. We started with new people and rags; we're just now becoming level competent to contest.

Max listens to his officers and knows what he needs to do, and so do we. What this server's problem is people not willing to work together (and I say this about all sides) to stop a zerg. Everyone wants to wait for Velious (where they're not going to be able to compete against <Holocaust's sheer numbers) . <Fresh> is the only guild that will be able to make any kind of difference...and whether you like the guild leader or not really doesn't make a difference when he's not running the guild like a dictator. There are a LOT of cool people in <Fresh> and the idiots and bluebies always weed themselves out.

Max is the GL of <Fresh> but his officers run the guild with him, make no mistake.

on sunday many lesser bosses were up for HOURS Before holo killed them, and you guys were told holo was coming to fear and would kill you, did you port out? no you just died.

when i see you guys doing chardok royals and fungi king on a regular basis i might think otherwise, i dont expect you to contest VS yet but you could easily form a zerg and start killing stragglers and disrupt enough to snipe a boss.

Yumyums Inmahtumtums
03-17-2015, 02:53 PM
on sunday many lesser bosses were up for HOURS Before holo killed them, and you guys were told holo was coming to fear and would kill you, did you port out? no you just died.

when i see you guys doing chardok royals and fungi king on a regular basis i might think otherwise, i dont expect you to contest VS yet but you could easily form a zerg and start killing stragglers and disrupt enough to snipe a boss.

So basically south parks Operation Human Shield.

vouss
03-17-2015, 03:32 PM
Yeah holo had to cut corners and cheat because they were in a bad position, I understand. Some people just can't click telescopes!

dontbanpls
03-17-2015, 04:35 PM
on sunday many lesser bosses were up for HOURS Before holo killed them, and you guys were told holo was coming to fear and would kill you, did you port out? no you just died.

when i see you guys doing chardok royals and fungi king on a regular basis i might think otherwise, i dont expect you to contest VS yet but you could easily form a zerg and start killing stragglers and disrupt enough to snipe a boss.

oh no we fought for the right to kill a mob WHAT A FUCKIN SHAME throw in the towel yall its over wrap it up

Humerox
03-17-2015, 04:40 PM
on sunday many lesser bosses were up for HOURS Before holo killed them, and you guys were told holo was coming to fear and would kill you, did you port out? no you just died.

when i see you guys doing chardok royals and fungi king on a regular basis i might think otherwise, i dont expect you to contest VS yet but you could easily form a zerg and start killing stragglers and disrupt enough to snipe a boss.

We're working on it, trust me.

And yes we knew <Holocaust> was coming to Fear. We knew we were going to get facerolled. Our boys wanted to stay and fight. It was fun, too.

dontbanpls
03-17-2015, 04:43 PM
It's so easy anyone could do it trust in steaks who got banned for exploiting then banned for exploiting then banned for RMT and hasnt played since yeah maybe harrison will come teach us how to be cool next

Humerox
03-17-2015, 05:35 PM
steaks, lol

wasn't he afk killing a shark or some crap?

dontbanpls
03-17-2015, 05:37 PM
yeah, then he was doing the same thing in oggok for guards and now he is fred schnarf here

vouss
03-17-2015, 05:44 PM
Yeah huggies sucks at this game and doesn't play why does he post like he knows what's up

Dacuk
03-17-2015, 06:02 PM
faggot needs to stop giving big shnarf a bad rep