Why did they decide iksar couldn't wear plate?

[sox7d]

It doesn't fit their reptilian form?
It would be OP with their armor bonus?
Lazy developers? (My money's on this one)

[slappytwotoes]

It was a lore thing... something about their scales chafing against the metal. They were given an armor bonus to make up for it.

IMO the devs got lazy when Velious came out and it made itemization more difficult + complainy players

[Ele]

The role play reason was that it would chafe their scales. Why ringmail wouldn't do the same thing IDK.

It was also probably consideration with the ac bonus for balancing issues (at least for Kunark/Old World).

Could also be lazy developers not wanting to go back and add Iksar to all the plate items in Kunark/Old World. PoG/Thurgadin armor did not include Iksar initially on Velious release (http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=143038).

[Ezalor]

gets itchy bruh

[Itap]

Lore. Now why they let Iksars wear plate in the very next expansion, I have no idea. Furor and FoH complained to Sony enough and had it changed

[iruinedyourday]

Heh plate is just 1 model.. They probubly consider it "gameplay".. You know, just anything to give players a variety of pro's and cons to look at when choosing a race.

[Tasslehofp99]

Why ringmail wouldn't do the same thing IDK.

My guess would be that plate is more rigid while chainmail has more of a loose fit that kind of just drapes over your body, or something.

[Raev]

It was a dumb decision that was rectified almost immediately on Live but has persisted for years here

[DrKvothe]

They probably over-valued the innate AC bonus, thinking that being able to break the AC cap that other races are limited to would make it the must play race for warriors. This is sort of ironic since the size (easy to target) and FSI of ogres are arguably more important. Giving iksars a huge penalty with some lore behind it let them feel balanced giving the AC bonus.

IMO it's super dumb. Yes, iksars have scales...They also have TEETH and a TAIL. Why not do something with that, like a racial attack bonus that's easily offset by adjustments to starting strength.

It's pretty similar silly restriction to some of the class specific weapon restrictions, intended for balance but unrealistic. Monks can't learn to use slashing/piercing weapons? Dude can do a flying kick and a dragon punch but can't figure out how to use the dagger* that wizards start with?

[Xer0]

Lore. Now why they let Iksars wear plate in the very next expansion, I have no idea. Furor and FoH complained to Sony enough and had it changed

magical plate doesn't chafe

[Oleris]

They were big Star Trek nerds, when the Jem'Hadar started to wear armor in DS9 they allowed them to wear plate.


http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070323023948/memoryalpha/en/images/8/89/Ixtanarax.jpg

[Jimjam]

Monks can't learn to use slashing/piercing weapons? Dude can do a flying kick and a dragon punch but can't figure out how to use the dagger* that wizards start with?That's not a balance restriction. Monks are not meant to draw blood, hence no pierce/slash.

[Zoesha]

Funny because iksars can wear plate in eq2. Definitely a balance thing I think.

[Itap]

That's not a balance restriction. Monks are not meant to draw blood, hence no pierce/slash.

You don't think bludgeoning the shit out of someone with a giant staff doesn't draw blood? (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CC0QFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thefreedictionary.com%2Fbludg eoning&ei=lXECVfhsia6CBJWlgNAH&usg=AFQjCNEZJDD0AofIKvUvhbT7JXKGD-glJQ&sig2=_wtjzaU1aPnPgK4xZoaplg&bvm=bv.88198703,d.eXY)

[Erydan Ouragan]

You don't think bludgeoning the shit out of someone with a giant staff doesn't draw blood? (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CC0QFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thefreedictionary.com%2Fbludg eoning&ei=lXECVfhsia6CBJWlgNAH&usg=AFQjCNEZJDD0AofIKvUvhbT7JXKGD-glJQ&sig2=_wtjzaU1aPnPgK4xZoaplg&bvm=bv.88198703,d.eXY)

Not in everquest, nope. They only cause bruises and concussions. Eventually the brain starts bleeding and the mob dies.

That's how it works.

[Feanoir]

Actually the shaolin monks came to be because the citizens were not permitted to have weapons, so the open fisted bagua matial arts were started for defense without having sharp weapons. I think blunt weapons come from a similar concept

[Ele]

You don't think bludgeoning the shit out of someone with a giant staff doesn't draw blood?

The word on the street in Qeynos Hills back in 1999 was don't use slashing weapons on bears and wolves or else you will only get ruined pelts!

[cubiczar]

The word on the street in Qeynos Hills back in 1999 was don't use slashing weapons on bears and wolves or else you will only get ruined pelts!

Wow, I had totally forgotten about this little tidbit until now. The funny thing is that it sounded so plausible at the time, I mean the game was crazy complicated why not put in code to ruin pelts if you used slashing? lol

[Humerox]

Why did they decide iksar couldn't wear plate?

cocaine

[kaev]

And the winner is...


cocaine

[Kope]

Iksars actually have 2 different "chain" graphics, the higher end being their "end game plate" graphic which is odd and negates the argument for lazy designers not wanting to create a new graphic model for the race.

[myriverse]

Not in everquest, nope. They only cause bruises and concussions. Eventually the brain starts bleeding and the mob dies.

That's how it works.
15 years of EQ and I've not seen a drop of blood... ever.

[Ninjerk]

15 years of EQ and I've not seen a drop of blood... ever.

Maybe there's no such thing as blood in Norrath :eek:

[xKoopa]

i thought the lore was that their bodies overheat in plate

[Ravager]

The devs thought they looked stupid enough without it.

[Itap]

15 years of EQ and I've not seen a drop of blood... ever.

Have you ever been to Grobb?

[NizmerThafen]

It's rather obvious that Iksar are coldblooded and thus need good thermo-regulation. This cannot be accomplished by stuff, encapsulating plate armor, thus they need something more breathable like chain or scale mail.

[scythic]

Dunno where you guys got this scale chafing non-sense, it's because they are cold blooded. They need to take in heat from the outside. The sun, etc.

[Clark]

It was a dumb decision that was rectified almost immediately on Live but has persisted for years here

Not everyone can have nice things! Lizards were targeted.

[WolfsongReborn]

Was even crazier that they couldn't wear the Kunark class armor sets...as a race introduced in kunark...

[Pyrocat]

Pretty sure it was because they were pressed for time and creating models for male/female iksar plate helped them make release.

[maskedmelon]

Whatever the reason, it doesn't make sense for them to retain the AC bonus when wearing plate, or possibly even chain >.>