Current lowbie loot etiquette?

[Mesnset]

I'm getting back into EQ after a 7+ year absence and am currently L3.

What is the current loot practice of most low level PUGs? Round Robin? FFA? IIRC, using autosplit is a bad thing because it splits coins, not total value. If a mob drops 1pp, 1gp, 1sp, the looter gets it all.

[ko37qtl]

In my limited observation, it seems about the same as it ever was: a few sticky fingers grab most everything. If it's a camp with noteworthy quest drops, like orc belts, scalps, ears, etc., those typically go alphabetical but the rest is often autosplit and anyone who isn't quick gets the shaft. Any significant loot is typically /random.

[Ravager]

Varies group to group. Be clear up front about your loot concerns when you join the group. If you don't think it's being handled fairly, ask to have it changed or find another group.

Stays true for all levels.

Most people are fair-minded, so don't be afraid to be vocal. Some people are just too meek to speak up when one person is getting most of the loot.

[azeth]

On P99 PUG group looting is wonky.

People do not like to clean their corpses, and this leads me to loot every single corpse for the sake of ensuring nothing of value will rot or go unnoticed.

Doing this probably makes me appear like a loot whore, however I am only compensating for the extreme laze of my group members.

When you join a group just identify your intentions and it'll be smooth.

[Ezalor]

free for all on vendor trash drops, just be courteous if you see other people looting it too don't take everything yourself

i don't /autosplit because #1 more often than not, monks will complain about added weight and #2 who cares

greed is the general rule on high value drops, unless you request a NBG policy when you form/join your group and the entire group agrees

[azeth]

I miss the standard Main Looter policy from live - at least on Rodcet Nife.

1. Cleric gets 2 gems upon joining
2. Main Looter loots everything off every corpse
3. Main Looter builds gem rotation hotkey
4. Main Looter dishes gems on drop to applicable members
5. Main Looter /splits every 100 plat

[Ezalor]

that reeks of communism

[ko37qtl]

I've been grouping exclusively with some new friends the last couple days and it's nice to get a fair distribution. We just loot like crazy unless it's a quest drop or whatever, mostly serial master looter and when enough are full up, we go sell, one person gets the coin and it's split throughout. I know that's not practical for pickups but it sure works out better.

[Celatus]

that reeks of communism

I like grouping with azeth because things are done fairly.

[mgellan]

People probably aren't lazy, they probably have multiple level 60 alts and if it isn't an xp drop like a belt or pad whatever, they don't care about a few spare coppers!

Regards,
Mg

[Mesnset]

Seems like there is no real standard then. Just figure it out up front.

autosplit - as I said, it had long been viewed as inequitable since it splits coins.

Main looter - this is the best, but does not work well for PUGs IMO, especially when people frequently come and go. There's also the "trust" issue in PUGs.

[toolshed]

HHK goblin groups do alphabet looting rotations for the ears. Most do /random on the 50pp large bricks that drop

[Teneran]

I always ask when i join a group. Some people are not interested in looting at all, others are.

Mostly I see FFA and randoms on valuable items. My HHK basement group did alpha loot until you got a goblin ear then the next person in the rotation looted, what worked fairly well.

[Jimjam]

On P99 PUG group looting is wonky.

People do not like to clean their corpses, and this leads me to loot every single corpse for the sake of ensuring nothing of value will rot or go unnoticed.

Doing this probably makes me appear like a loot whore, however I am only compensating for the extreme laze of my group members.

When you join a group just identify your intentions and it'll be smooth.

type '/hidecorpses looted'

Once you loot a corpse it will disappear on your screen even if it still has items on.

/hidecorpses allbutgroup will hide every corpse in the zone (except for those of group members)

[sox7d]

Things like crushbone belts are on rotation. Gems/vendor jewelry are sometimes but typically randomed. All auctionable loot should be rolled on regardless of NBG. Almost everything gets upgraded at some point which makes it a "greed" ultimately.

[azeth]

type '/hidecorpses looted'

Once you loot a corpse it will disappear on your screen even if it still has items on.

/hidecorpses allbutgroup will hide every corpse in the zone (except for those of group members)

unsure how this alleviates rotting cash loot

[myriverse]

that reeks of communism
Obviously you have zero clue what communism is then.

[maskedmelon]

In my experience groups generally do not discuss loot and hints just roll FFA with /randoms on rare drops and alpha on quest drops. You will encounter many people who do not loot at all. I tend to play clean-up like aseth, looting everything on any corpse that has around a minute or less on the decay timer. Best practice is to ask how loot is being conducted when you join.

I hate autosplit and find many others do as well.

Just my 2cp ^^

[Jimjam]

Set up a /split 0 0 6 0, /split 0 0 0 6 hotkey and spam on it to dump your small change on your other group members if they all go afk.

unsure how this alleviates rotting cash loot

Cos you check the corpse for cash loot but don't have to loot/destroy the other crap. Or /hidecorpses allbutgroup if you know someone else went through the most recent pile of corpses.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

that reeks of communism

Whereas /random'ing everything reeks of Vegas.

To the OP: need before greed is the exception, not the rule on p99. Valuable drops get /random. I would make a rule, that no one can win two items until everyone has won one, and to keep the crying to a minimum, an earlier winner can /roll to trade up their item if the item they won is of less value than the current item up for roll.

This rule may seem sad, since on live years ago NBG was the norm, but there are players who will say they need an item, sell it the next day in ec, then be back in the same camp the enxt night, saying they need that same item. It's how people are today; I believe the kids call this "winning." Or maybe that was Charlie Sheen. Or Gorden Gecko.

So, short version: everything gets random'd because you cannot trust people on this server to not actually sell the thing they say they need.

At lvl 55+, I've seen a super rare 100k shaman spell go to a monk alt on a /random, even though there was a shaman main in group who needed that spell and had been camping it for a week.

Welcome to p99. It is mellower at lower levels, though.

[azeth]

At lvl 55+, I've seen a super rare 100k shaman spell go to a monk alt on a /random, even though there was a shaman main in group who needed that spell and had been camping it for a week.

Right, but this exactly identifies why NBG es no bueno.

So a Monk wins Torpor when the Shaman in group needs it. Well, that monk can sell it and buy his entire epic MQ. This is why high value drops are never ever done via NBG unless between guild mates or good friends.

How can you justly say the Shaman deserves his needed spell, over the Monk who needs to purchase his epic MQ?

[Ezalor]

that moment you're in a pug group with a bunch of random strangers and the shaman thought he was entitled to NBG a 100k spell that dropped

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[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Right, but this exactly identifies why NBG es no bueno.

So a Monk wins Torpor when the Shaman in group needs it. Well, that monk can sell it and buy his entire epic MQ. This is why high value drops are never ever done via NBG unless between guild mates or good friends.

How can you justly say the Shaman deserves his needed spell, over the Monk who needs to purchase his epic MQ?

I agree with the system. I was going to add, but decided not to, that who knows, the shaman might turn around and sell it and be back at the camp the next day, too. Maybe that shaman is saving for an epic for a new main.

I don't like the random everything rule in pug's, but now that I've thought about it for a few years (!!) it really is necessary on this server. Harsh but true, eh?

Another argument for why getting into a solid guild of cool people, and doing guild groups when possible, is a whole other gameplay experience!

[Clark]

free for all on vendor trash drops, just be courteous if you see other people looting it too don't take everything yourself

i don't /autosplit because #1 more often than not, monks will complain about added weight and #2 who cares

greed is the general rule on high value drops, unless you request a NBG policy when you form/join your group and the entire group agrees