pizza is a vegetable

[derpcake]

So today I learned that pizza is qualified as a vegetable in the US.

Supposedly, this is due to the high concentration tomato thing.

As a result, pizza can be sold in schools, since vegetables are healthy.

Is this true?

If so, how retarded are your voters on the average?

[captnamazing]

I don't think this was voted in. But it is fucking retarded and America is trying to kill itself.

[khanable]

Yea. Pizza is considered a vegetable in the eyes of congress. I don't believe this was up to "vote", it was just lobbyists being lobbyists and getting congress to do stupid shit cause money.

[Dillian]

pizza with just low fat mozzarella and sauce isnt bad for you honestly. Add some green peppers and other veggies and its still healthy. Throw in things like sausage and pepperoni it becomes fat.

[Missneye]

What's funny about this is that the tomato is a fruit, not a vegetable.

[khanable]

pizza with just low fat mozzarella and sauce isnt bad for you honestly. Add some green peppers and other veggies and its still healthy. Throw in things like sausage and pepperoni it becomes fat.

Absolutely. We do need to remember this was frozen school pizza though, and iirc, the bill also kept freedom fries on the menu.

huehuehue freedom fries

[|3igHurb]

this is what derpcake spends time thinking about

A+ intellectual

[kildone]

Some voters are stupid, some just watch too much cable "news" channels, some just don't give a shit - too busy playing video games or watching cable tv to try to vote in good lawmakers.

The RDA is posted by the FDA or some something like that. People would need to vote in folks who could undo the jokes that make up these federal groups.

Look into aspartame to see how scientists votes can be switched by adding more members sometimes not even scientists, to match special interests, Monsanto in this case. Look into Nixon and Cannibis to see how scientists can be asked to do studies over and over and when the politicians don't like the science they just ignore it.

Look into the obesity and diebaties issues to see how clever marketing can cause the masses to walk blindly off a cliff like a herd of lemmings. You will find corn syrup in the ingredients of some odd foods, like fast food buns and frozen dinners. GMO corn syrup is super cheap and added to the salts and fats actually makes people hungry.

Don't even get me started on hydrogenated oils, which scientists now admit are the real cause of arterial disease. You can eat all the cholesterol you want, eggs, real milk from a farm, meats and nit risk heart attacks. They invented these oils so that food will take longer to spoil, adding Hugh $$ to the corporate bottom line. Think about it if bacteria can't digest this stuff, can we? No it just stick to the inside of our pipes.

I love pizza, will always eat it, but realize that it's more of a treat than a good source of nutrition. Same with fruit juice counting as a serving of fruit. Labels loudly claim this but don't mention that even the FDA ( or whoever sets the RDA ) says it can only count as one serving, need real fruit to make up the rest. They don't even bother to put it in fine print which most Americans will not read anyways.

My favorite part of aspartame is that they want to add it to milk, which is so watered down and bitter in the chain supermarkets it needs an artificial sweetener. They proposed to "change the definition of milk" so they can add it without putting it on the label. I heard this last tidbit on NPR and also foreign news so I tend to believe it.

[kildone]

Please disregard my previous posts. Mr Cheny got word of the post via the NSA and sent some folks to pay me a visit. I now see the light and realize I'm just a conspiracy nut and I need to take off my tinfoil hat and watch more Fox News or msnbc. I am American after all I am free to decide which flavor of garbage... I mean insightful information I consume.

[Pokesan]

I tend to value the opinions of people who rant about Monsanto very highly.

[myriverse]

So today I learned that pizza is qualified as a vegetable in the US.

Supposedly, this is due to the high concentration tomato thing.

As a result, pizza can be sold in schools, since vegetables are healthy.

Is this true?

If so, how retarded are your voters on the average?
Pizza can be a very, very healthy diet. If done right, it can be a perfectly balanced meal in itself.

But no, this is not really what was said. This is a myth. What were determined were the ratios of toppings to make a serving of pizza qualify as a serving of vegetables. The tomato paste/sauce was rightfully a big part of that, since it adds lots of nutrition with minimal calories, salt, etc. that you want to limit.

What's funny about this is that the tomato is a fruit, not a vegetable.
There is no biological definition for vegetable that is set in stone. There is only a culinary definition, and it varies by culture and is completely arbitrary. There is no distinction between fruit and vegetable, and the terms are not mutually exclusive.

[Whirled]

You rich people and your fermented pastries /ponder

[kildone]

Pizza can be a very, very healthy diet. If done right, it can be a perfectly balanced meal in itself.

But no, this is not really what was said. This is a myth. What were determined were the ratios of toppings to make a serving of pizza qualify as a serving of vegetables. The tomato paste/sauce was rightfully a big part of that, since it adds lots of nutrition with minimal calories, salt, etc. that you want to limit.


There is no biological definition for vegetable that is set in stone. There is only a culinary definition, and it varies by culture and is completely arbitrary. There is no distinction between fruit and vegetable, and the terms are not mutually exclusive.

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/words/is-a-tomato-a-fruit-or-a-vegetable
Is a tomato a fruit? If you believe in scientific practices then yes it is. But science is only a way to make classifications based on observations. Plant vs mineral vs animal is just a way to group similar entities. Maybe under other systems such as a religion or philosophy a tomato can be defined differently.

Is tomato sauce nutritious? It is certainly seems to be more so than a candy bar or potato chips. From what I have learned from modern science:

Raw fruits and vegtables are the most nutritious. Home made products with 100% ingredients are next best. Say tomato sauce made with only tomatoes, jam made with only the fruit. Lastly are what you find in a can ( from a supermarket or what a pizzeria will use ) or what comes on a frozen pizza. There are however scientists and scientific studies that indicate the preservates added cause harm to the body that outweighs the nutrition and as such are considered unhealthy.

In essence though I agree with this post that pizza can indeed be a healthy nutritious meal. If made correctly from all natural ingredients, no preservative or hydrogenated oils.

But in the spirit of the original post. For the FDA to count pizza as a serving of vegetable with a blanket statement one must consider the types of pizza consumed. I would guess that 90+ % of the pizzas consumed in America are not home made using fresh natural ingredients.

I don't know the answer for certain but the I think the OP has a very valid point.

[kildone]

ps I love pizza, candy bars and potato chips. I will certainly die younger than I would if I abstained, but would I enjoy life.

My wife and I disagree on that answer...

Please excuse me while I go make a bacon double cheeseburger with extra mayo.

[FoxxHound]

ps I love pizza, candy bars and potato chips. I will certainly die younger than I would if I abstained, but would I enjoy life.

My wife and I disagree on that answer...

Please excuse me while I go make a bacon double cheeseburger with extra mayo.

I know that feel bro. I eat so much stuff. I should be fat, but I'm not.

[myriverse]

But in the spirit of the original post. For the FDA to count pizza as a serving of vegetable with a blanket statement one must consider the types of pizza consumed. I would guess that 90+ % of the pizzas consumed in America are not home made using fresh natural ingredients.

I don't know the answer for certain but the I think the OP has a very valid point.
A "serving of vegetables" is defined as 0.5 cups of (or 1 cup of leafy) vegetables (about 75 grams). However you get that on a slab of pizza crust doesn't really matter.