Project 2002 - The Age of Al'Kabor - Release Date 3/20/15

[Furst]

Project 2002 - The Age of Al'Kabor - Release Date 3/20/15

Greetings Traveler,

After much anticipation we are very pleased to announce the launch of Project 2002 - The Age of Al’Kabor. Here at Project 2002 we strive to emulate the best part of Everquest, the Planes of Power. We have a motivated staff with the intention of releasing content in a timely manner to avoid stagnation of the server at all costs.

Project 2002 is about playing in fairness, having fun, and enjoying the quest for pixels. Upon server release, Classic zones will be open. This includes Plane of Hate, Plane of Sky, and Plane of Fear. Since we will emulate Planes of Power to the best of our ability, Plane of Knowledge will be open. Along with PoK, players are allowed the creation of Iksar and Vah Shir. The Beastlord will be a playable class upon release. Cabilis (East and West), Shar Vahl, Field of Bone, and Shadeweavers will be open for those who want to create the Iksar or Vah Shir race.

We understand the need and want for a brand new server that starts from scratch. Project 2002 provides a quality emulated Everquest experience set during the Planes of Power era, based on the open source codebase started by EQMac EMU.

Project 2002 will release content expansions as it is developed and tested and will strive to keep the content accurate per era.

We promote a healthy raid environment with a hands off GM approach. Much like live servers, we will have a Free For All ruleset when it comes to raiding. It will be up to players to mediate or create their own resolutions to disputes. Guides will be available to support players but we strive to have as little CSR intervention as possible. Competition is encouraged, we want to foster a healthy and positive gaming experience for players at all levels. We intend to gauge all GM released content to involve everyone, not just the end game raiding community. We want this to be an equal opportunity server for all players. We expect everyone to act in a civil manner while spending time on Project 2002. Live play nice policy rules will be enforced.

The quest for legacy items is something we take seriously. Watch the p2002 forums for more information on how to find these items in game.

Join Project 2002
Project 2002 Index page (http://www.p2002.com/forums)

Once your have a forum account you can create a Game Account
Main Page (http://p2002.com)


Future Expansions in development:
Ruins of Kunark
Scars of Velious
Shadows of Luclin
Planes of Power

- Project 2002 - The Age of Al’Kabor Team

The Project 2002 team would like to thank the Takp project team for all their hard work creating a stable server environment. The foundation of code they created allowed for us to focus on the refinement and expansion of content that would not have been possible without their diligent work.

[triad]

boxing ....

[Millburn]

I've been waiting for my account to be activated on TAKP for a number of days now so if I can start here first I'll plant roots here instead.

[citizen1080]

I havn't played takp for more than a few days total...out of the loop. But if they drama spill over here is any indication. 2002 may be a better choice.

[erog84]

Excited to see what this server brings.

[Enygma]

Cool! I'll be rerolling here and trying it out!

Looks like a good fresh alternative! Nice to see releasing content is a priority!

See you guys in Norrath!

[Swish]

boxing ....

Yep, that's a lot of this community out I think :/




Here's the FAQs for anyone who doesn't want to click the site:-

Is this server going to be just like AK or TAK?
Short answer, Yes and No. Long answer, while expansion releases will be based on a Progression server format, we will fix a number of issues that existed on AK. We plan to have less bugs overall and more completeness to quests for all expansions. We support both PC clients and Mac clients.

What clients can play on this server?
The OSX client from the official Al`Kabor will work from launch. Windows clients are only supported with eqmule's current patch. No standard/unmodified PC clients will be supported at this time.

Where can I get the client to play?
Hopefully you still have the Intel OSX client or a working PC client from before Al`Kabor was shut down. Beyond that we will not allow discussions on this forum or game server in regards to how to get it. Otherwise, see above.

Is this an Emulator server?
Yes

What is the boxing limit on this server?
3 accounts can be logged on by a single person.

When/How can we play?
XXXXXXXXX


Is it allowed to make multiple forum accounts to have more game accounts?
No, we are only allowing one forum account per person, which entitles you to 3 game accounts. Guilds will be able to apply for a Guild Bank account, which must only include level 1 banker / bazaar bots.

What is available to play?
On release it will be original classic content, Cabilis (E and W), Shar Vahl, FoB, Shadeweavers, PoKnowledge. Plane of Fear and Plane of Air are going to be available at launch, Plane of Hate is currently being worked on and once it is ready to launch Hate will be open as well.

How will you be adding expansions?
We will release each expansion as they are completed as a whole expansion not parts here and there.

If I find a bug what do I do?
It depends on the bug. If it can be exploited, PM a team member on the forums and do not post it openly. If it is not that kind of bug by all means post in the right category on the forums. If in doubt, use PM only.

Do you get paid for this or make any money?
No, and never will. Donations go only to server hosting fees and hardware upgrades.

Can I box a friend or guildmates account/toons?
As long as you don't go past the 3 accounts online per person that is is not an issue. Yes you can.

[Furst]

From what I am hearing they loosened up on the number accounts you are able to have the FAQ wasnt updated. I will check and let you guys know

[Dillian]

From what I am hearing they loosened up on the number accounts you are able to have the FAQ wasnt updated. I will check and let you guys know

3 wasnt enough? people want more? im out

[Dac321]

Lost me at boxing..

[apio]

3 wasnt enough? people want more? im out

You can have unlimited accounts but only box 3 at a time

[Wharhog]

If you don't think you can handle two you have the option of playing one....this just gives highly skills players the chance to shine

[triad]

If you don't think you can handle two you have the option of playing one....this just gives highly skills players the chance to shine

that is the dumbest thing ive ever read... boxing takes almost 0 skill and trivializes the content and the economy

[Wharhog]

lol really? So you think playing a single box of a 16 yr old game is hard? Ok playing. Multiple toons at the level someone who is playing a single toon is harder. But nothing about eq is hard.....everything has been done once.....it is simple the nostalgia of playing a familiar rule set

[Furst]

isnt classic and kunark already trivial?

But to avoid arguing people have different play styles if boxing isnt for you, then you may not like our server but there are other servers that allow unlimited boxing.

Atleast its only 3

[Torven]

nothing about eq is hard

People keep saying this, and yet I keep seeing corpses everywhere

[Pokesan]

can we look forward to this server also splitting an already tiny userbase?

fast forward six months from now - there are 12 Al'Kabor servers, each with 10 total characters online at peak hours.

should have let it rest in peace

[Haynar]

People keep saying this, and yet I keep seeing corpses everywhere
About as trivial as running a server too.

H

[Swish]

can we look forward to this server also splitting an already tiny userbase?

fast forward six months from now - there are 12 Al'Kabor servers, each with 10 total characters online at peak hours.

should have let it rest in peace

Waiting for the one with no boxing restrictions so people can 12 box to prove a higher pop :p

[Treats]

People keep saying this, and yet I keep seeing corpses everywhere

Pretty much sums up how trivial EQ is

[Flamewraith]

I believe this server is made up by the remains of the armed and hammered guild on takp. Most of them were banned, the rest ragequit. The sole thing keeping me from this server is fucking rude half of them were. I think apio and lumineres were the only two decent people I met from AnH my whole time there. Also if you're trying to recruit people from this forum, insulting them with sarcasm is totally not the best way to go about it. Derp.

[Erasong]

Thanks! I was a pretty nice guy on p99 too! Id say give it a chance if the only thing holding you back was some attitude. A few of them had legitimate gripes and unfortunately it spilled over. I hope both AK servers flourish myself. Its possible if a PoP locked server could drum up the same kind of numbers p99 has. Even divided by half thats 2 pretty lively servers in emu terms.

[erog84]

I believe this server is made up by the remains of the armed and hammered guild on takp. Most of them were banned, the rest ragequit. The sole thing keeping me from this server is fucking rude half of them were. I think apio and lumineres were the only two decent people I met from AnH my whole time there. Also if you're trying to recruit people from this forum, insulting them with sarcasm is totally not the best way to go about it. Derp.

The higher ups made it clear on TAK if you don't like their server, go make your own. Which is what these guys are doing, is that so hard to understand? You sound very judgemental for people who are just trying to enjoy an eq experience and are putting forth that time and effort. Nothing wrong with recruiting either, if people don't want to play there, then don't, it's as simple as that. Some people enjoy boxing, hell ALOT of people on p99 box on a regular basis. Those that don't enjoy it will stay away, and those that do, or don't mind it might give it a shot, the more the merrier.

[Flamewraith]

The higher ups made it clear on TAK if you don't like their server, go make your own. Which is what these guys are doing, is that so hard to understand? You sound very judgemental for people who are just trying to enjoy an eq experience and are putting forth that time and effort. Nothing wrong with recruiting either, if people don't want to play there, then don't, it's as simple as that. Some people enjoy boxing, hell ALOT of people on p99 box on a regular basis. Those that don't enjoy it will stay away, and those that do, or don't mind it might give it a shot, the more the merrier.

If being a dick to everyone who walks in front of you is how you enjoy your "eq experience" than you can do it alone on your own server. Enjoy.

[Furst]

If being a dick to everyone who walks in front of you is how you enjoy your "eq experience" than you can do it alone on your own server. Enjoy.

Flaming someone after they flamed you for flaming

+1

[girth]

He has the name Flame in his name...what do you expect.

[Flamewraith]

He has the name Flame in his name...what do you expect.

QFT

[pharmakos]

main different between TAKP and P2002 -- TAKP will have a raid rotation, P2002 will be pure FFA.

[Haynar]

main different between TAKP and P2002 -- TAKP will have a raid rotation, P2002 will be pure FFA.
P2002 FFA = Project Poopsock

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

TAKP will have a raid rotation,

Sauce? I like it if true.

[Furst]

From what I understand guilds are given a week to kill Naggy/Vox when they spawn. Also I think the main guild is wanting Phinny on a rotation as well (dont think they realize its a 12 hour spawn)

P2002 is not going to force a rotation. If the guilds that form on the server want to set up a rotation then that is great. But they are not going to ban people for sniping other peoples dragon if they leave it up.

I also want to mention the zone completion list is showing Classic basically done, which will give the team a few weeks to iron out kunark loot. From what I understand all the mobs are there. Loot just needs to be evened out and the pathers need to be added to their roam paths. All pathing nodes are there with exception of VP and 2nd/3rd floor CoM

[Torven]

Destiny isn't 'the main guild' nor do they want to rotate Phinigel. (I assume) One of them merely asked if Phinigel was FFA or not.

I hope you've been adding in some of my pathgrids I've been doing recently, because unrest lacked house grids, permafrost bear pits lacked some, kedge had almost none and najena had none. I'm not sure if other classic zones are lacking grids, I haven't really looked.

Also note that hateplane has patrol routes that are not marked on any public maps. You might want to take a look at my hateplane data. Or just copy my grids later, as I'm in the process of adding those now. I spent time examining the zone just before AK's shutdown so I'm perhaps familiar with them more than most.

[apio]

You might want to register on our forums, if you are looking to contribute that's the best spot.

[surron]

P2002 FFA = Project Poopsock

lol


Will p2002's DB and server code be open source, or at least pushed back to cavedude? Would be a shame if cavedude has to spend his time fixing shit that p2002 has already done. Is there even a p2002 server dev, or you guys just doing DB work and lua conversions?

[Wharhog]

Cd is welcome to anything he wants. Much love and respect to Cd and all he does

[Furst]

our lead developer sat down with CD for about an hour before we started our project, and they already talked about contributing.

[radditsu]

servers wont have the population to sock like 99. Especially when velious+ is released. You will find it hard to kill fucking...vulak then

[radditsu]

If the client wasnt shitty i would be playing on one of the servers now. Get underfoot working yall

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

From what I understand guilds are given a week to kill Naggy/Vox when they spawn. Also I think the main guild is wanting Phinny on a rotation as well (dont think they realize its a 12 hour spawn)

P2002 is not going to force a rotation. If the guilds that form on the server want to set up a rotation then that is great. But they are not going to ban people for sniping other peoples dragon if they leave it up.

I also want to mention the zone completion list is showing Classic basically done, which will give the team a few weeks to iron out kunark loot. From what I understand all the mobs are there. Loot just needs to be evened out and the pathers need to be added to their roam paths. All pathing nodes are there with exception of VP and 2nd/3rd floor CoM

Considering the fact that Star had the last 3 vox and two nag kills I think this is out of the butt talk.

[Furst]

I believe the GMs are resetting dragons today and starting the rotation, and removing the +- variance to the spawns

[Enygma]

P2002 FFA = Project Poopsock

Negative - content will be released faster than people can level and kill it / monopolize it.

Unlike other projects....

[nagmarr]

Nice, good luck to y'all.

sounds like if you want FFA/unlimited accounts go there, if you want Rotation/3 accounts go to http://www.takproject.net/

Also I think the main guild is wanting Phinny on a rotation as well (dont think they realize its a 12 hour spawn)


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[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Negative - content will be released faster than people can level and kill it / monopolize it.

Extraordinary claims...

[Treats]

Negative - content will be released faster than people can level and kill it / monopolize it.

Unlike other projects....

So PoP released a month after launch?

I don't think many people realize what a massive undertaking it is to develop code and a database that even remotely resembles classic EQ. Look how long P1999 has been around just to get to this point in the timeline.

The server/database needs a lot of time in development for a somewhat classic server -- Anything else has massive faults in the code/database discrepancies that goes in the trash when the players figure out it's garbage and stop logging into the server.

Just look at EpicEmu

[scythic]

Exactly, content takes a long time to release and yet TAKP devs have already decided to force guilds into a rotation. Aren't on the rotation? You get one spawn cycle a month to get on it. (This goes for every guild trying to get on) If you can't get on the rotation you can't raid. Period. Jump a guilds mob and you get banned.

Seriously.

This has nothing to do with the fact the the GM's are active players in the wanna be raiding guild.

I wasn't banned there, but how can I justify putting time into an EQ character when bans are handed down so easily and without justification or proof. The GMs say you threatened them in a PM, it's bannable to record conversations with a GM anywhere, and the GM refuses to post proof he was threatened. Boom, you're done.

Secondly, say what you will about boxing. Most players on TAKP didn't box. The ones that did only used their boxes to supplement their groups weaknesses. I boxed an Enchanter but ALWAYS invited an LFG Enchanter if there was one. This is by and large the majority of the situations. If it were up to me there would be a 2 box limit but boxing will die out if a population is stable. I honestly hate running my second character but it is a great benefit to the gameplay experience... And I made her a chick and can cyber myself.

(P.S. TAKP devs have also banned players for talking negatively about the server and GMs on forums not related to TAKP. (Rerolled) So if posting this results in a ban there note that I was not banned at the time of writing this.)

[nagmarr]

Exactly, content takes a long time to release and yet TAKP devs have already decided to force guilds into a rotation. Aren't on the rotation? You get one spawn cycle a month to get on it. (This goes for every guild trying to get on) If you can't get on the rotation you can't raid. Period. Jump a guilds mob and you get banned.



The community voted for a rotation. Nag has been up for 48 hours, he's just sitting there - feel free to kill him. The rotation is as fair as it can be with 2 raid mobs.
Looks like only 1 guild is capable of killing them atm. I've heard rumors that more content is due out in the very near future. imo it's all apples and oranges. Find the server that suits the type of gaming environment you enjoy, and go play there.

[scythic]

The community voted for a rotation. Nag has been up for 48 hours, he's just sitting there - feel free to kill him. The rotation is as fair as it can be with 2 raid mobs. Looks like only 1 guild is capable of killing them atm.

False.

The GM's offered Instanced content, this was the leading option during the vote. That option was then decided to be impossible and people were told to revote, almost all of those votes didn't revote but were counted towards a rotation.

Even if you take those numbers out of the question, you had 4 options in the vote describing a Rotation of some sort and 1 option describing FFA, still FFA was over 40% of the votes. But rotations were deemed the winner.

At the very least rotations simply won a plurality vote in a very skewed and biased vote.

Imagine I'm making a poll for a presidential race.
a) Bob Dole
b) George W. Bush
c) Ronald Reagen
d) Bill Clinton

a) gets 17% (rotation player ran)
b) gets 11% (rotation unattackable mob)
c) gets 28% (rotation GM intervention)
d) gets 44% (FFA)

Your headline would read "56% of vote case for Republican." Mine would read, "More people voted for d) than anyone else."

(Oh, and by the way, they deleted the post that had the vote numbers in it after they declared Rotations the winner.)

[nagmarr]

That all sounds great, and i'll happily take your word for it. With my eyes, last i saw the post/vote rotations were winning the vote by large margin. And then you had sub categories and FFA still had less then the 1st option, which was for some kind of rotation. Instanced content sounds good but it wasn't a legit option.
Anyways it is what it is, out of both of our hands. I don't really mind the rotations and i don't really mind FFA. I do however mind Poopsocking on the daily.

[Alacres]

That all sounds great, and i'll happily take your word for it. With my eyes, last i saw the post/vote rotations were winning the vote by large margin. And then you had sub categories and FFA still had less then the 1st option, which was for some kind of rotation. Instanced content sounds good but it wasn't a legit option.
Anyways it is what it is, out of both of our hands. I don't really mind the rotations and i don't really mind FFA. I do however mind Poopsocking on the daily.

You saw it right. I watched the polls the entire time and I don't recall instancing ever being the leading vote; far from it. And even if it was at any point, it wasn't for very long. Community-enforced and server-enforced rotations were by far the most popular at the end of it, with FFA not even having a chance. "FFA was over 40%" my ass.

Also, I really love the "when bans are handed down so easily and without justification..." rhetoric. It's really simple. Don't be an inconsiderate asshat who willfully and continuously breaks rules and you won't get banned.

[Erasong]

Also, I really love the "when bans are handed down so easily and without justification..." rhetoric. It's really simple. Don't be an inconsiderate asshat who willfully and continuously breaks rules and you won't get banned.

you guys are missing the point. no one is saying they were banned for being an inconsiderate asshat. they are saying that bans can and sometimes will be handed out for simply having a differing opinion. Since when is posting an opposing line of thinking or expressing things that need improving the same as being some antagonistic douchebag?

Your brush paints in very broad strokes sir.

[Alacres]

you guys are missing the point. no one is saying they were banned for being an inconsiderate asshat. they are saying that bans can and sometimes will be handed out for simply having a differing opinion. Since when is posting an opposing line of thinking or expressing things that need improving the same as being some antagonistic douchebag?

Your brush paints in very broad strokes sir.

If you can prove anything like that actually happened, you'd have a point.

[Wharhog]

So PoP released a month after launch?

I don't think many people realize what a massive undertaking it is to develop code and a database that even remotely resembles classic EQ. Look how long P1999 has been around just to get to this point in the timeline.

The server/database needs a lot of time in development for a somewhat classic server -- Anything else has massive faults in the code/database discrepancies that goes in the trash when the players figure out it's garbage and stop logging into the server.

Just look at EpicEmu


Once you have a working codebase.....lua is the only code that has to be updated to release expansions(the quest code)

Xpac's are just a pile of pathing/roaming/database work.......but if you have a few people working on it diligently....6 months is all it should take to put out xpacs. Luclin/PoP will take the longest for sure.....but I still think with the codebase 6months is a very real expectation.

[harnold]

Can anyone say exactly which gm is in the "wannabe raid guild"?

Or is it just some tinfoil hatting by the disgruntled.

[Wharhog]

Rob and speedz and Zarwayne are all in Destiny

[Erasong]

If you can prove anything like that actually happened, you'd have a point.

Pretty much describes the entire Lance drama. Its simplifying it, but in essence, there it is.

[Alacres]

Pretty much describes the entire Lance drama. Its simplifying it, but in essence, there it is.

Funny, because based on what I read, he had been asking for a ban. In fact, Speedz himself made a thread specifically about that incident, talking about all the prior harassment he had put up with from him on several occasions. Given many of the irate posts I saw from him (many of which were uncalled for insults and condescending remarks towards the staff) I'm inclined to to believe he was telling the truth. The guy was an ass, and he got banned for being an ass. It seemed pretty cut and dry.

[Wharhog]

Iance is a bit ocd. The incompleteness of the database and how it was an act of congress to get basic flaws changed caused a loss respect between he and the staff which eventually led to a mexican standoff with Iance holding a squirt gun.

[Furst]

here is how I see the difference in the two servers:

If you want handed loot on a silver rotational platter, that threatens bans for sniping. And given a full week to kill your mob. TAK is the place for you. They want a very slow pace and for people that don't play a lot this is perfect.

If you want competition with the highs and lows that go with it, The Age of Al'kabor might be the place for you. They aren't going to show any favoritism towards anyone

Please let this be the last post on comparing the two servers in the Project 2002 post. We are not here to encite an argument, but to get excited about a new server

[Alacres]

Iance is a bit ocd. The incompleteness of the database and how it was an act of congress to get basic flaws changed caused a loss respect between he and the staff which eventually led to a mexican standoff with Iance holding a squirt gun.

It doesn't matter where his frustration stemmed. It didn't give him grounds to be a total dick to the staff, and he ultimately paid the price for it.

[apio]

I got banned for no good reason besides having an opinion and standing up for it. Speedz and anybody else involved has yet to post any proof of me breaking any rules.
Speedz claims I did all kinds of stuff, anyone is welcome to make him back up any of it, I have nothing to hide.
Anyhow I am over it, and wouldn't return to that server regardless.

[Furst]

please take all TAK talk to their post or to their forums.

[Haynar]

please take all TAK talk to their post or to their forums.
Who cares? These are the p99 boards and you are basically adversising here. It is you attitude that turns people off. Sometimes its better to say nothing.

Just remember that being more tolerant, means u are gonna end up with all the asshats run off from takp.

If you keep your p2002 threads off p99, then I will not talk about takp on your forums.

Get over yourself. I hope you find out that runnng your own server and dealing with certain ppl sometimes just SUCKS.

Good luck with your server full of takp rejects and p99 RMT banned.

H

[harnold]

I really think you need to change the color scheme on those forums. That grey text on black background is so hideous and hurts your eyes. I'm sure it will drive people away from registering.

[harnold]

Who cares? These are the p99 boards and you are basically adversising here. It is you attitude that turns people off. Sometimes its better to say nothing.

Just remember that being more tolerant, means u are gonna end up with all the asshats run off from takp.

If you keep your p2002 threads off p99, then I will not talk about takp on your forums.

Get over yourself. I hope you find out that runnng your own server and dealing with certain ppl sometimes just SUCKS.

Good luck with your server full of takp rejects and p99 RMT banned.

H

I dont really know why your getting hostile, but as he said before he would rather people not think that this is some kind of war between the two servers. Why do you have an issue with his thread here on p99? You think that server is really a threat to p99? Totally different player bases

[Furst]

I really think you need to change the color scheme on those forums. That grey text on black background is so hideous and hurts your eyes. I'm sure it will drive people away from registering.

The site had a better template / color scheme for the forums. When the account creation tool was implemented the forums kind of blew up. The theme you see now with the black background is a temporary. This should be fixed with in the next couple days.

[Torven]

Once you have a working codebase.....lua is the only code that has to be updated to release expansions(the quest code)

Xpac's are just a pile of pathing/roaming/database work.......but if you have a few people working on it diligently....6 months is all it should take to put out xpacs. Luclin/PoP will take the longest for sure.....but I still think with the codebase 6months is a very real expectation.

You casually mention 'database work' like it's a trivial bullet point on the level of making roam boxes. I suppose p99 taking 4 years to push Velious was entirely because of code issues?

You barely had to touch fear/sky (if you did at all) because I spent weeks doing both zones. I parsed all NPC types in both zones which took roughly 3 hours each. Not to mention the time spent writing the custom parsers to begin with. In case you missed it, scareling procs are causing them to teleport themselves instead of the player btw. The difference between you and me is I want this fixed before launching the zone.

You can pull numbers out of your ass, or you can take the time to find out what they really are. I spent a full year gathering min/max hits, max hp, attack delays, special attacks, spells, resist values, num drops, even health regen on some for most of the raid bosses in the game. I'm adding trash mobs to this as we release content. It's extremely time consuming. Hate wasn't done not because of laziness, but because it's a revamped zone requiring much more research.

Do you have any idea what spell forsaken revenants proc? What their proc rate is? Do you care? This stuff ain't on allakhazam.

Iance is a bit ocd. The incompleteness of the database and how it was an act of congress to get basic flaws changed caused a loss respect between he and the staff which eventually led to a mexican standoff with Iance holding a squirt gun.

Changes were made when evidence was presented. 'I remember' is not evidence.

eqlog_Nester_52.txt 3039310 [Thu Jul 26 22:56:27 2012] You have slain a guk ghoul knight!
eqlog_Nester_52.txt 3039544 [Thu Jul 26 22:58:59 2012] The ghoul lord has been ensnared.

You can put them back in as a lord guard spawn now.

[Wharhog]

You casually mention 'database work' like it's a trivial bullet point on the level of making roam boxes. I suppose p99 taking 4 years to push Velious was entirely because of code issues?

You barely had to touch fear/sky (if you did at all) because I spent weeks doing both zones. I parsed all NPC types in both zones which took roughly 3 hours each. Not to mention the time spent writing the custom parsers to begin with. In case you missed it, scareling procs are causing them to teleport themselves instead of the player btw. The difference between you and me is I want this fixed before launching the zone.

You can pull numbers out of your ass, or you can take the time to find out what they really are. I spent a full year gathering min/max hits, max hp, attack delays, special attacks, spells, resist values, num drops, even health regen on some for most of the raid bosses in the game. I'm adding trash mobs to this as we release content. It's extremely time consuming. Hate wasn't done not because of laziness, but because it's a revamped zone requiring much more research.

Do you have any idea what spell forsaken revenants proc? What their proc rate is? Do you care? This stuff ain't on allakhazam.


Thank you for all your work on parses, they help immensely.

Tossing daggers at us when you have no idea how many people or how much time has been/being spent isn't very productive.

If you would like a database that doesn't use PEQ magelo values for 99% of mobs in the game we have one we will happily share.

You will want our Sky lua's...half of them are broken.

Epic lua's as well.....will let ya know when we finish the rest of epic lua's

[surron]

p2002.com/forums - Total members 64
takproject.net - Total members 1045

lol

[Flamewraith]

p2002.com/forums - Total members 64
takproject.net - Total members 1045

lol

They may have 1045 but for the last two weeks server pop has been around 60 pop with the majority of players three boxing. That's like what, 40 people tops?

[Flamewraith]

And everyone is like, it's only low because people are bored they will come back with planes. Seriously? It's low because 1/3 the server was either banned or ragequit due to super sketchy rules.

[Enygma]

The community voted for a rotation. Nag has been up for 48 hours, he's just sitting there - feel free to kill him. The rotation is as fair as it can be with 2 raid mobs.
Looks like only 1 guild is capable of killing them atm. I've heard rumors that more content is due out in the very near future. imo it's all apples and oranges. Find the server that suits the type of gaming environment you enjoy, and go play there.

This is the result of a dying population, nothing more, nothing less.

[nagmarr]

You can keep calling the server 'dying' and 'dead' it doesn't mean that it is. I'm seriously happy for you and your buddies - you guys have your own server. But jeez, get over it already. Is it that you continuously keep bashing TAKP in hopes that people will all join in on the fun times over on your new server? All the sh*t talking this whole time has been the same ole thing. Look where it's gotten everything. You see the server as 'dead' because you and your homeboys left/got banned and server numbers (that were never great to start with) have declined since u left. That's only half the story. I see it as alive because me and my buddies are still there, and there's a solid little community and tons of hardwork going in to it. The future is very bright for TAKP, though you would like to sell it and tell it otherwise.

I left A & H to get away form this drama. I saw it happening before ANYONE was banned. I could sense it. I've observed all this shit. I have nothing against you guys and your server, but no need to bash the old server because you guys couldn't find common ground. Turn your pretty little heads, and walk away. You wanna bring TAKP down in flames, i'll be right here to meet you. If you want to build a community, you treat people right.
You couldn't find a way to share in one, so you ran off and made your own. Good for you guys.

Lol

-just a dude playin on the TAKP

[Haynar]

And everyone is like, it's only low because people are bored they will come back with planes. Seriously? It's low because 1/3 the server was either banned or ragequit due to super sketchy rules.
Thats why p99's population is so low. Four years of Kunark means death for the server.

Whatever.

H

[Arclyte]

this server sounds like shit

[Furst]

this server sounds like shit

A post not about TAK, thanks for your input

[Haynar]

Here is my honest opinion about p2002.

I know nothing about those running or hosting the server.

The people advocating the server the loudest, are brash, outspoken. And have little positive to say of other servers.

Their resume says, their dev chatted with CD an hour.

Seriously?

Since they use their own login server, it is the perfect front for someone like platlord to gather passwords. Then a few months later, use them to log in to idiots accounts on p99 that used same accounts/pass. Strip plat and gear. Make another $50k selling for RMT.

My recommendation, if you try this server, do not use any account name or pass u used elsewhere. If u did, then change your other passwords asap.

Too many red flags. Play at your own risk.

The High Priest has spoken.

Move along.

[Tollen]

My recommendation, if you try this server, do not use any account name or pass u used elsewhere. If u did, then change your other passwords asap.


sounds like sound advice no matter what flags you see. Thanks

[loramin]

Since they use their own login server

I think this is a red flag entirely separate from Haynar's (very valid) security concerns.

Logins are a pain in the ass, both as a server admin and as a user ... which is why anyone with any sense starting a new website uses OpenID. These people could have used OpenID (with Google or Facebook or ...) OR they could have used EQEmulator, but instead they chose the worst option for both themselves and their users.

If the people behind this project can't be bothered to make their users' lives easier when it takes LESS work to do so, what should we expect of them when something actually takes effort?

[Erasong]

Agree. recycling passwords and logins is a recipe for disaster no matter any of the rest thats been said. I seriously doubt any of these guys are even remotely connected to platlord or anything like him or have any ambitions to do the same. They just want an emu with the playstyle they think people would enjoy.

As far as little positive to say of other servers.

It stands to reason that the server as a whole is being made because of unhappiness with current projects. I dont know how much they have bashed on other servers. I see some unhappiness with the way things are done on some other servers but again since when is not agreeing the same as bashing? They were told if they think they can do a better job, do so. So they are attempting.

[Torven]

Tossing daggers at us when you have no idea how many people or how much time has been/being spent isn't very productive.

If you would like a database that doesn't use PEQ magelo values for 99% of mobs in the game we have one we will happily share.


Every page in this thread has a 'dagger' aimed at me, since I'm involved with the database end of things. I had absolutely nothing to do with your bans, nor had the power to do anything about them, but if you guys are going to make comments about mine and Rob's work because Speedz pissed you off, then I'm going to reply.

I don't need to know how much time you've put in when you say 'Kunark will be done in a month'. You're mocking us for releasing content too slowly when you're not even aware of what needs to be done. For example, most classic NPCs have an attack delay of 3-- in Kunark, attack delays start getting faster for every NPC above level 25. This alone has a major impact on difficulty of the game. Expacs aren't just quest scripts and pathgrids.

You've just downloaded our server and DB and you're excited over becoming new admins. I get it. The eagerness of putting in numbers to web forms will start to wane after a year and a half, trust me. Frankly I had higher priorities than replacing magelo data with a global research mat lootdrop table to mundate trash mobs. I didn't see any of you begging to do that job while you were playing.

[Pokesan]

officially shipping Torven x Secrets

the #1 best contributors to the AK emu projects

now kiss

[jetviper21]

I think this is a red flag entirely separate from Haynar's (very valid) security concerns.

Logins are a pain in the ass, both as a server admin and as a user ... which is why anyone with any sense starting a new website uses OpenID. These people could have used OpenID (with Google or Facebook or ...) OR they could have used EQEmulator, but instead they chose the worst option for both themselves and their users.

If the people behind this project can't be bothered to make their users' lives easier when it takes LESS work to do so, what should we expect of them when something actually takes effort?

Its very apparent that you do not understand how the login server for the peqmac emu works so let me enlighten you. You can't use the eqemu login and you can't use openID to login to peqmac everquest. Mostly because the mac client was changed to use the newer token based authentication. This is hacked around in the mac version that you could use to play on Al'kabor by using a separate routine in the login server itsself. The PC version still uses a version of the eqemu login code. Since the mac clients have no server select screen you are forced to run a login server that will forward the client to your world server.

Mac:
https://github.com/cavedude00/Server/blob/master/loginserver/client.cpp#L178

PC:
https://github.com/cavedude00/Server/blob/master/loginserver/client.cpp#L283

All passwords are SHA1 hashed with a salt (which isn't the best) but its also not the worst. Personally I would prefer bcrypt or SHA-512

[jetviper21]

That being said even the official tak login server will log your password in plain text to the servers log files.

https://github.com/cavedude00/Server/blob/master/loginserver/client.cpp#L199-L200

Another fun thing is that if you are on a mac and you run "ps aux | grep Everquest" you can see your password in plain text passed as a command line argument. So arguing security here has little merit in a system that has obvious flaws

[apio]

We are 3 days away from launch so I thought I would introduce you to our team.

http://www.p2002.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=148

We will release 1 last huge changelog before launch, to avoid spamming the forum daily, once we are on our way there will be more frequent changelogs!

A good guide on how to get set up can be found here: http://www.rerolled.org/showthread.php?7738-Project-2002-The-Age-of-Al-Kabor-release-date-3-21-15&p=1017027&viewfull=1#post1017027

[scythic]

I just want to let everyone know I appreciate Torven as much as he appreciates himself.

[king buzzo]

is this seperate from project 1999?

[Secrets]

That being said even the official tak login server will log your password in plain text to the servers log files.

https://github.com/cavedude00/Server/blob/master/loginserver/client.cpp#L199-L200

Another fun thing is that if you are on a mac and you run "ps aux | grep Everquest" you can see your password in plain text passed as a command line argument. So arguing security here has little merit in a system that has obvious flaws

It's an option and if it's a security concern I will personally remove it.

It's no different than the plaintext passwords being sent on the client to the EQ server, though that's more of a client restriction.

[mr_jon3s]

I would love to play a 2002 server but with no boxing.

[kain200]

I tried to register on the forums but i'm not getting the activation email. I even did a thing where you can get it to resend another email and I didn't get that one either. I hope this gets resolved i'm looking forward to playing on friday!

[Wharhog]

Takes a little bit, it will be there shortly

[loramin]

Its very apparent that you do not understand how the login server for the peqmac emu works so let me enlighten you.

You were correct sir, thanks for the enlightenment :D

I still hate the need for a separate login, but at least now I understand it's a technical issue and not a willful usability violation.

[kain200]

One of the emails showed up finally. I'm all ready for friday! This is going to be super fun starting from scratch!

[SHOWITME]

wait, server goes live on friday?

[Wharhog]

5pm est Friday is official launch, 6pm sever launch event

[apio]

wait, server goes live on friday?

Yes, we will launch on Friday 03/20/2015 at 5 PM EST / 2 PM PST / 10 PM GMT

There will be a Server launch event at 6 PM EST / 3 PM PST / 11 PM GMT

EDIT:

Server Launch has been moved up to Midnight EST, the server launch event will still be held at 6 PM EST.

[chtulu]

How will have an event before the launch?

[Wharhog]

Server launch is mightnight tonight, gm event is following day at 6pm est, the time change was due to our backend admin having a family emergency.....and we didn't want it to launch later...so we chose the earlier.

[kain200]

Server launch is so very close!!! It almost makes me want to stay up to start playing at midnight when it unlocks! Alas, I am an old fart that needs my sleep. Getting up early tomorrow morning for a fresh start. This server is gonna be sweet!

[Darksinga]

I'm going to give it a shot as well. We shall see. Normally not into blue servers but maybe down the road we can get people to discord lol

[Secrets]

Made a guest appearance tonight. http://puu.sh/gHLtp/25ad53b611.jpg

Not going to release my hax just stopped in to say hi though.

[Darksinga]

Any tips or tricks to get the client to run more smoothly?

In comparison to the Titanium client I felt like the EQMac is a lot more laggy and the mouse isn't as cooperative.

[apio]

You Should get an app to limit your frame rate. I personally use
Dxtory and limit it to 60

[kain200]

I had the same issue with the client having bad mouse movement problems. It was really annoying. I downloaded the dxtory thing apio mentioned and did the frame rate limit to 60 and it fixed the problem. If you have some way to limit fps just do that to 60 and it should solve it. Otherwise get that program, it works.

[Furst]

just hit 30 been really fun this time around.

[kain200]

30 already? Wow you've put in some time! My threesome is only level 8. This server is looking really sweet so far though! I hope more people come over and experience the goodness!

[burdenday]

I'm having a really good time too. POK makes getting around easy, and since I'm just one-boxing a monk, people have been great about including me in a group for pulling.

Devs have also been quick to fix issues and are very approachable/sane.

A+++ would play again.

[Greymantle]

The launch of this is classic only with expansion coming over time? It's a pve server? Considering I have no account here anymore I'm interested in checking this out.

[Pokesan]

Will the <Armed and Hammered> server become more popular than the <Destiny> server?

Stay tuned for more eqemu drama. It's getting hot in here!

[Furst]

The server is mostly in classic right now, with a few added zones too feel more like a pop server(which is the main goal).

All of classic including the planes + PoKnowledge + Cabilis/Field of Bone/Kurns + Shar Vhal/Shadeweavers

Cats and Iksars are playable along with the beastlord class. Kunark is scheduled for a June launch

[Weekapaug]

One question...Can you old school swarm kite with the true autocircle?

[Furst]

Bards can swarm kite

[Circa.]

Why won't they take off boxing, that server could actually thrive if they just didnt allow boxing.

[Daldaen]

Why won't they take off boxing, that server could actually thrive if they just didnt allow boxing.

Because boxing makes the server more fun?

No issues with wasting another person's time transferring items, begging for buffs or ports or rezzes.

It's very nice!

[Circa.]

yeah yeah I know, I just don't wanna box but I also wanna group with some people! haha where's the info on how to get started.

[Wharhog]

http://p2002.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=8

[Circa.]

Anyone have a PC guide to get this going.

[Wharhog]

http://www.rerolled.org/showthread.php?7738-Project-2002-The-Age-of-Al-Kabor-release-date-3-21-15

download the client....put it in your C drive and launch from eqw.exe in winsvcpack 3 compatibility mode...this can be done by right clicking and going into properties of eqw.exe

[Weekapaug]

Bards can swarm kite

They can here, too, but that's not my question.

When I last played p99 and before, because of the differences with the hitbox mechanics and the aggro hitching thing from live classic it's a lot different here than it was live pre-aoe kite nerf. Not to be confused with swarm kiting....sorry if that's what I said before I'm a tad rusty.

When I last played here, aoe kiting was doable but it has to be done in a more specific and complicated way, which for me means I have to remap everything just for the bard and after 16 years of this game and tons of alts that's basically prohibitive for me.

On alkabor (live) I was told, you could use the actual classic functionality of the locked in auto circle but I never got a chance to check it out.

Can that be done on the new emu?

Sorry if I was vague and misleading before. Prob need a pro bard to answer this.

[Weekapaug]

One other question. When the pc launcher was briefly available on live alkabor I did pop on once just to look around. The bazaar auction tool was scrambled on pc.

Does it work on the new emu?

[Tollen]

On alkabor (live) I was told, you could use the actual classic functionality of the locked in auto circle but I never got a chance to check it out.

Can that be done on the new emu?


Yes the auto circle works.

edit,

just read your original question. true autocircle. not sure what you mean by that.

the auto circle that works is.

holding down W and D or A and hiting enter to open the chat box, then release W and D or A, press enter again to close chat.

This will put you in a very tight auto circle run. using your right mouse click you start to strafe and you just steer in the opposite direction of D or A

you are free to twist songs but not able to swap instruments (currently that is not worth it cause song check every tic for mod)

[Wharhog]

We are in classic....there is no bazaar

[Weekapaug]

Yes the auto circle works.

edit,

just read your original question. true autocircle. not sure what you mean by that.

the auto circle that works is.

holding down W and D or A and hiting enter to open the chat box, then release W and D or A, press enter again to close chat.

This will put you in a very tight auto circle run. using your right mouse click you start to strafe and you just steer in the opposite direction of D or A

you are free to twist songs but not able to swap instruments (currently that is not worth it cause song check every tic for mod)

Sounds as I remember but I don't recall the strafe part.

I use arrow keys for direction in EQ so for me it would have been hold UP and LEFT then hit the ENTER key twice to chat on chat off and that locks the auto circle. Don't remember the mouse strafe part but it's been since before the regular live server nerf of aoe kiting that I've done it. What, 8-10 years ago? Might have.

And I started during DoN era and used the bandolier to swap instruments, since I could, so I don't remember that being an issue, but I guess it wouldn't have been even if everything else was identical.

You can't swap instruments between song clicks? I'm guessing the auto circle is locking it out?

Very cool....going to have to check this out soon. Thank you for the info.

[Weekapaug]

We are in classic....there is no bazaar

Got ahead of myself, then. Thank you for the reminder. :)

[Wharhog]

We'll make it work when we get there...but for now...I'm just worried about getting Kunark and Velious out before the end of this year.

[Weekapaug]

Awesome thanks, Wharhog. Didn't know you were a dev. I just wasn't thinking. Great to hear, tho. Nothing against EC tunnel but I dug the baz also.

I'll definitely be checking your server out when I finish getting my boxes sorted out for casting. Might even cast if there aren't problems with twitch.

[Tollen]

Sounds as I remember but I don't recall the strafe part.

I use arrow keys for direction in EQ so for me it would have been hold UP and LEFT then hit the ENTER key twice to chat on chat off and that locks the auto circle. Don't remember the mouse strafe part but it's been since before the regular live server nerf of aoe kiting that I've done it. What, 8-10 years ago? Might have.

And I started during DoN era and used the bandolier to swap instruments, since I could, so I don't remember that being an issue, but I guess it wouldn't have been even if everything else was identical.

You can't swap instruments between song clicks? I'm guessing the auto circle is locking it out?

Very cool....going to have to check this out soon. Thank you for the info.

after you do the up and left arrows and lock the circle, its too tight mobs will tear you up, the strafing part allows you to run just outside of mob hit box (not all mobs like giants, who have larger hit box)

also this is done without selo and sow.

its hard to swap cause you are using the mouse to steer. you could stop the auto circle and swap instruments then start again and hit the swarm with next ae, and repeat before the first wears off.

but currently songs check for mod every tic, so swapping would not yield the best dps.

if you get into game id be happy to show you.

[Weekapaug]

Awesome, Tollen. I know I always kept selos up and tried to keep a sow pot handy when I did it so your method is definitely different.

Thank you very much. I may very well take you up on that soon.

[apio]

In accordance with our Legacy Item Poll, a ghoul assassin will now drop the 'Guise of the Deceiver' for a limited amount of time. Don't miss your opportunity to get your own!

http://www.p2002.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=314

[Mandalore93]

Will the client I was using for TAKP still work for this?

[apio]

Yes, you just need to change the server address in the eqhost.txt

[SHOWITME]

this server fail hard or did it rebound

[scythic]

It's going pretty strong, it's not as top heavy level wise as other servers.

[Darksinga]

I play some every now and then. Got some toons in the 30s after playing super casual.

XP is a lot slower than R99, but quite faster than P99.

[erog84]

Compared to p99 the population is low, but p99 is the exception with population. Also it took p99 a long time to build up this population, so no suprise there. I saw a random group yesterday with no one boxing, which was cool to see! I personally box, but spend half my time duo'ing/trio'ing (usually each person has 2 of their chars in group) with people, so it's not just soloing all the time cause you can box 3 toons.

Personally I expect the population to slowly rise till velious is released. I expect it to have a jump in velious and bigger jumps when luclin and pop are released. I have played on p99/r99 for years, but have lost alot of interest in the raid scene here, and how crowded/top heavy it is. So far I am really enjoying it on this new server, and while the pop is low, it will only get better the more players we get right now. If you are interested in starting there, I don't have much, but would be more htan happy to toss some plat your way and even help get you started with buffs/powerlvl for the first bit. You can pm me here, or hit me up in game on Tolixs.

[Swish]

Forums are dead. I think there's more activity on most P99 individual guild forums.

Would try, but boxing etc :/

[erog84]

Forums are dead. I think there's more activity on most P99 individual guild forums.

Would try, but boxing etc :/

I guess you could look at it that way. If the pop was way higher, most likely would be more activity on forums just because more players. But I look at it as in not so much forumquesting going on!

[Happy]

having fun here so far. More people should roll here.

[Circa.]

Starting it this morning, anyone want to join me ? PM me.

[BossThunderace]

Starting it this morning, anyone want to join me ? PM me.

Whats up Circa,

who do you play there?


The project 2002 server is great, come check it out! Need more newbies!!

Check out Thunderace on the forums and PM for buffs etc

[Hawala]

boxing ....

[Happy]

I'm actually single boxing here and still having a blast. Lots of helpful higher levels..

[erog84]

Shit's classic..... Playing one toon is definitely not going to be as easy as p99 with groups and such, but I've seen multiple people doing it. One friend of mine doesn't like to box, so I made another toon to lvl up with him. I have never had a problem with dropping toons to make room for single boxers, but obviously there is going to be those times that you can't find a group (i've had the same issue on every eq server I have played on).

[BossThunderace]

3 box, 2 box, and single box.... Depending on what the situation calls for. If there are single boxes looking to join group, I drop and invite said single boxer. Everyone wins.

[apio]

Hi everyone ! I just wanted to give you all a small update on what has been going on lately

Our server has introduced Hot Zones, to give the people who do not want to keep going to the same leveling spots some diversity. They will be rotating/switching ever so often, and their status can be reviewed here: http://p2002.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=187

After completing our Loot Revamp prior to launching the server, numerous DB reworks have followed, and we can now say with confidence that we have the most accurate Database out there behind Project 1999.
We are currently in the process of revamping all Classic dungeon spawn groups, we are not happy with the state of many of them yet - Zones with higher ZEMs are being primarily targeted right now, but spawn groups for all Classic dungeons should be accurate by mid May, at latest.

Kunark is practically completed Database side and our main focus has shifted to getting all Kunark quests (especially Epics) ready for the Kunark Launch, and adding in Kunark specific code like Disciplines.
We are very confident in our launch date, which is targeted for Mid June. We will strive to launch Velious by the end of 2015, which seems like a realistic time line considering the effort everyone has been putting in.

The development of Content has been and will continue to be our main focus. We believe that many of the high end problems that an Emulator/EQ server has to deal with are due to drawn out development cycles.

Code wise Cavedude, Haynar and Torven have been working their collective butts off to bring us new code updates almost weekly, but a big thank you also goes out to all the testers who have made this possible by providing great feedback and bug reports.

Our player base is slowly and steadily growing, and we are very happy about what we have moved in the very short amount of time we have been working on this project. Despite boxing being allowed (our limit is 3 boxes online at a time) people have been very social and helpful.
Of course there will always be lone wolves who would rather do things on their own and in their own pace, but most people will drop their boxes for a real player when they get the chance to do so. At this point in time, the great majority of people are playing from US timezones, but we also have more and more European players signing up to join us lately.

On a progression note: Last week, Lord Nagafen was killed for the very first time, and last night Lady Vox, Noble Dojorn and PoF Golems were added to that list.

[heartbrand]

Open a pvp box up

[Rednaros]

Open a pvp box up

[erog84]

On a progression note: Last week, Lord Nagafen was killed for the very first time, and last night Lady Vox, Noble Dojorn and PoF Golems were added to that list.

Small correction, 2 out of the 3 were killed. Terror mowed through our tanks and wiped us. Personally, I love the fact that the game is difficult again, wiping is a real possibility, not just an auto attack, 100 people vs a trivial raid mob. We also did a hate clear last night, and was able to learn from our previous time up with some mini's, so we were prepared and it went pretty smoothly.

Seems like every day I am seeing a few more people starting on the server, which is good to see. The more people there, the funner it is going to be. Right now only one raiding guild, and people are playing anywhere from 1 to 3 toons on the raids due to the low pop. Once we get a higher population in the guild I'm sure the toon limit will be reduced to 2 on raids max (maybe 1 if the guild ever gets that big) to make sure we aren't trivializing content with a zerg. If anyone is looking for an easy install, feel free to PM me for an easy setup.

[pink grapefruit]

Shame about the boxing, I would love to play a beastlord otherwise.

[BossThunderace]

Beastlords can slow and practically CH their pet. Hows' that for classic!?

[BossThunderace]

bump for upcoming Kunark release!

[MteniPheet]

I checked out the forum, and wasn't quite as clear on how to get started like Project1999 is... ~

[BossThunderace]

I checked out the forum, and wasn't quite as clear on how to get started like Project1999 is... ~

http://www.rerolled.org/showthread.php?7738-Project-2002-The-Age-of-Al-Kabor-release-date-3-21-15&p=1017027&viewfull=1#post1017027

[MteniPheet]

Pretty easy to get started on? Project 1999 took me maybe 20 mins (including download times). Sorry antsy to play, loved PoP expansion though.

Would like the idea of playing a fairly new server, versus how old it is here... over crowded to boot.

[BossThunderace]

Pretty easy to get started on? Project 1999 took me maybe 20 mins (including download times). Sorry antsy to play, loved PoP expansion though.

Would like the idea of playing a fairly new server, versus how old it is here... over crowded to boot.

Yes, easy to get started on. Look forward to seeing you in game, ask for buffs, people are very nice here.

[MteniPheet]

Awesome, I will try to get it set up tonight :) Do custom UI's and Luclin models work here too?

[BossThunderace]

Yes, will be as close to PoP era as possible.

[MteniPheet]

I just tried to get it set up. I'm able to get in game, but everything is different? Things are choppy, cannot use mouse control or change mouse look / zoom out. Cannot enable luclin models, claims I do not have enough memory... blah, played LiveEQ on this PC just fine with everything on... I was really looking forward to this, but can't make it work :x Too good to be true I guess.

[Wharhog]

Sounds like you need a framerate limiter. Use Dxtory and your fps to 60 should fix the choppy issue...also refer to the tech help forums for any other issues

[MteniPheet]

But why does this client not allow me to zoom out like in other versions of EQ? Or to enable luclin models and claims I do not have enough memory for it?

[Wharhog]

You can go into eq client.ini and turn them all on. This is the classic client...which never had mouse scroll...but I believe people tap f9 twice and swing the camera around for the same effect

[MteniPheet]

how do I do it in the ini?

[pink grapefruit]

But why does this client not allow me to zoom out like in other versions of EQ? Or to enable luclin models and claims I do not have enough memory for it?

You mean third person with the scroll wheel? Not classic, not even PoP at release. Maybe LDoN when they added that?

[Wharhog]

Change the ones you want to TRUE from false

[Defaults]
Sound=TRUE
NewUI=TRUE
ReadOnce=TRUE
VisitedLuclinOptions=TRUE
UseLuclinHumanMale=FALSE
UseLuclinHumanFemale=FALSE
UseLuclinBarbarianMale=FALSE
UseLuclinBarbarianFemale=FALSE
UseLuclinEruditeMale=FALSE
UseLuclinEruditeFemale=FALSE
UseLuclinWoodElfMale=FALSE
UseLuclinWoodElfFemale=FALSE
UseLuclinHighElfMale=FALSE
UseLuclinHighElfFemale=FALSE
UseLuclinDarkElfMale=FALSE
UseLuclinDarkElfFemale=FALSE
UseLuclinHalfElfMale=FALSE
UseLuclinHalfElfFemale=FALSE
UseLuclinDwarfMale=FALSE
UseLuclinDwarfFemale=FALSE
UseLuclinTrollMale=FALSE
UseLuclinTrollFemale=FALSE
UseLuclinOgreMale=TRUE
UseLuclinOgreFemale=FALSE
UseLuclinHalflingMale=FALSE
UseLuclinHalflingFemale=FALSE
UseLuclinGnomeMale=FALSE
UseLuclinGnomeFemale=FALSE
UseLuclinIksarMale=TRUE
UseLuclinIksarFemale=FALSE
UseLuclinElementals=TRUE
UseLuclinVahShirMale=FALSE
UseLuclinVahShirFemale=FALSE

[MteniPheet]

Thank you sir

[MteniPheet]

I tried that... they are all set to true, and still loads old models... bleh, guess I'll stay on P99 :p

[Wharhog]

AllLuclinPcModelsOff=FALSE
Try turning that to true

[BossThunderace]

just got tailoring up high enough to make some Wu's, any monks or beastlords want to join p2002 and get some Wu's? hmu

[erog84]

Population currently supporting one raiding guild (always open for competition! ). We have most times around 35 sometimes up to 40 toons on raids. Some 3 box, some 2 box, and a select few single box. Currently gearing up in fear/hate, and getting ready for Kunark here in the next month or so. The general feeling I get from most of the classic eq community is they are tired of classic/kunark, which is completely understandable. Being able to leasurely raid with no competition atm in classic (and soon kunark) is pretty fun right now, but definitely excited for velious release aimed at end of year.

For anyone needing help setting it up, it usually goes pretty smoothly and quickly(always exceptions). Feel free to PM me with any questions/setup assistance.

[DeathWalking]

shit i might try this out despite the boxing nonsense. does titanium work for it?

[DeathWalking]

where do i get the eqmac intel client i need?

[nineonesix]

I want to play, but I don't want to box.. and it seems that i will be forced into boxing due to a select few doing so? I mean I CAN dual box, but Idk.

Another question, whats the server population at?

[BossThunderace]

where do i get the eqmac intel client i need?


http://www.rerolled.org/showthread.php?7738-Project-2002-The-Age-of-Al-Kabor-release-date-3-21-15&p=1017027&viewfull=1#post1017027

[BossThunderace]

I want to play, but I don't want to box.. and it seems that i will be forced into boxing due to a select few doing so? I mean I CAN dual box, but Idk.

Another question, whats the server population at?

Play what you want!

This server allows you to have as many game accounts as you want with only 3 boxes in game at once. If you desire to 2 box, you could have a different combination of boxes without having to worry about having toons on the same account.

If you enjoy the challenge of single boxing on a new server, do it! Pick a class you love and make the most of it.

The server population is small and growing everyday. The community is nice on this server, players helping players out.

[DeathWalking]

cant get it t work UnU

[erog84]

I want to play, but I don't want to box.. and it seems that i will be forced into boxing due to a select few doing so? I mean I CAN dual box, but Idk.

Another question, whats the server population at?

The population is still low, but I see new players every day. I've gotten 4 pm's in the past 2 weeks asking for help setting it up, so I know people are starting. Single boxing on a low pop server depends on the class, but for the most part will be more difficult. But it can be done for sure! Also people are routinely powerlvling up new toons, and you can usually get in on a powerlvling group every few days if you so choose. Once you are raid lvl then you can just enjoy the planes and not worry about lvling till kunark hits in a month or so. Once kunark hits, EVERYONE will be lvling and shouldn't be too hard to get a group each day till most people hit 60. I 2-3 box usually, but I have no problem dropping a box to get in a single box player (and have many times). Also many people I group with will drop a box to get someone in.

Since this server has alot of POP era rules (because we are trying to keep it similar to eqmac server), there is no class penalties, only racial. Also there is a bonus xp for each new person in the group. This definitely runs off the attitude of not grouping with certain classes (rangers, etc)

[katrik]

Sounds exciting.. Except for the boxing. Can't do it.

[DeathWalking]

Sounds exciting.. Except for the boxing. Can't do it.

its a maximum of 3 toons when you box, and automation programs arent allowed. you have to actually control each of the 3 toons. no press one button to have all 3 toons fire off a spell ect.

[loramin]

Sounds exciting.. Except for the boxing. Can't do it.

[BossThunderace]

Sounds exciting.. Except for the boxing. Can't do it.

you could single box an iksar shaman. that scaled hierophant armor is $$$ and drops all the time.

[erog84]

Kunark Launch for p2002 announced today for the 19th of this month. Anyone that was waiting around for kunark, feel free to pm me for help installing or help in game.

[Riotgirl]

Can we have an update please, good, bad, and ugly? Planning for eventual stealth implementation of Classic UI i.e. the day that I /quit P99 on the spot.

I dislike boxing, but hopefully will be with Guild members.

1. What are typical server box numbers?
2. How classic are mechanics i.e. similar feel to P99?
3. How easy is it to install?

I love classic mechanics - hate classic UI.

[Akillez]

population seems to be going up pretty well, I would say most people box, but more and more who are playing dont. (not a fan of boxing either, but so far been a blast for me) No idea on typical server pop numbers. Its not really classic to my knowledge, its PoP. They have most things outside of PoK out atm. I assume to make it s we cant just run through current content. If you consider PoP classic then maybe it is classic. Its stupid easy to install you download then unzip a file and you are done.

[Wharhog]

You can install various UI's, mousewheel scroll and no maps are the two hangups with the classic client vs titanium. Numbers are around 100 during primetime, makes for camping things much easier and if you are bringing over a crew of people....will allow you to enjoy raid content without the poopsocks.

[mystang89]

It's the mousewheel scroll plus no autofire that are keeping me away atm, mainly the mousewheel scroll. I asked about it in the forum and was told it was because the mousewheel scroll wasn't implemented until after PoP which is all well and good if that's how the dev team wants to run the server I just can't play like that. I get sick at the stomach looking at it. (Honestly, my stomach gets this sick feeling.) I know you can use F9 to change to 3rd person view but I can't get the camera to follow my character and constantly having to move the camera via my mouse isn't something I'm getting used to after the time I've spent in.

The autofire I can honestly get used to. It sucks that it isn't in there and no argument I've read has ever been good enough to me to excuse it's absence but I really can get over it. Just bind to another key and shoot that way. Whatever.

If someone has a trick for the camera view please let me know and I'll be ALL over that.

[Wharhog]

The client does not support either function. Dev's do not touch the client, only the server.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

We don't need two different threads shilling the same server.

[apio]

then why do you keep bumping both threads?

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

then why do you keep bumping both threads?

If there was a sage option I'd use it.

[Big_Japan]

If there was a sage option I'd use it.

master troll or supreme homosexual? i remain undecided

[Tollen]

I know you can use F9 to change to 3rd person view but I can't get the camera to follow my character and constantly having to move the camera via my mouse isn't something I'm getting used to after the time I've spent in.


I don't see how you have this problem, I hit F9 two times (x2) and the camara is always behind my toon. I never have to use mouse to swing it.

If i want to zoom in I use "insert" and "delete" keys, and Alt+ arrow keys allow me to set it a another angle if I need.

Shoot Tollen, Utinen, Tony a tell any time in game be happy to help.

[Haynar]

We don't need two different threads shilling the same server.I have permission to combine the threads. I guess I should figure out how ...

[Pokesan]

I have permission to combine the threads. I guess I should figure out how ...

any chance you could merge all the p2002 threads into the garbage where they belong?

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Top Kek.mp4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hcSpSC8T0M)

[Swish]

Think how popular an enforced, fresh no boxing server would be if done in the P99 style. I think the boxing thing is what keeps people antisocial and therefore gives less reason to stay after whatever you're trying to achieve is achieved.

On a side note, I never visited this server's forums but the reception over at TAK project was pretty hostile - can't make a successful server if the community hates newcomers.

[apio]

There are plenty of examples of anti social behavior you can witness every day on P99. From people playing a solo class to elitist exclusive mindsets, I think you are greatly exaggerating the problem of boxing.

As you have admitted yourself, you didn't even check our forums, most people commenting on the social aspect of our server are greatly surprised about how social and welcoming people actually are despite the boxing.

Both the development teams of TAK and P2002 greatly encourage people to host their own version of the server with the code, under their very own rules. If the market for a non boxing server is that great, why are there no non boxing servers available? If you had channeled all your negativity about boxing into actually hosting your own server, we might have a tangible comparison by now :)

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

the reception over at TAK project was pretty hostile - can't make a successful server if the community hates newcomers.

?

Honestly curious. Having played there since day 5 that perspective isn't something i'm familiar with since the split in March.

[Sketched]

Yes there are salty members on any server.

Part of the problem was how you first engaged with the community on the forums, Swish. Going into an established community and trying to change well debated and contentious issues to suite your personal goals will never go over well, especially if that community is already stressed. See how well "Lets enable PoK books! or "Why no maps?" threads go here on P99 forums.

I am not sure what happened in game, but I have found the TAKP community to be friendly.

[BossThunderace]

Yes there are salty members on any server.

Part of the problem was how you first engaged with the community on the forums, Swish. Going into an established community and trying to change well debated and contentious issues to suite your personal goals will never go over well, especially if that community is already stressed. See how well "Lets enable PoK books! or "Why no maps?" threads go here on P99 forums.

I am not sure what happened in game, but I have found the TAKP community to be friendly.

have you tried p2002?

[Sketched]

I am not sure why I would since I already play on TAKP. I prefer to support an open source project that has the ability to fix complicated mechanic issues. Even if content moves a bit slower.

[Haynar]

any chance you could merge all the p2002 threads into the garbage where they belong?

P2002 has a different type of players compared to takp.

Lets keep a place for them to feel welcome.

[Riotgirl]

P2002 has a different type of players compared to takp.

Lets keep a place for them to feel welcome.

What are the main differences between the 2 sets of players? I'm content on P99, but good to know of other viable options. Although if push came to shove, I'd look for a classic LoTR server.

[BossThunderace]

What are the main differences between the 2 sets of players? I'm content on P99, but good to know of other viable options. Although if push came to shove, I'd look for a classic LoTR server.

I've played on AK, p99, takp, and p2002.

Generally speaking, takp wants to have GM intervention / enforced / rotated raid targets, p2002 wants no GM intervention.

Most of these people saying negative things towards p2002 have never tried/played the server.

[Archalen]

I know a bunch of people who would be interested including me if you didn't allow boxing.

Love PoP

Just sayin!

[Swish]

I know a bunch of people who would be interested including me if you didn't allow boxing.

Love PoP

Just sayin!

[Haynar]

FYI. I am very pro boxing.

If you want to preach anti-boxing at p2002 or takp, you will not get a friendly welcome. They allow up to 3 boxing. They don't plan to change that either.

Hands off GM policy is great at low populations. When u start attracting the wrong crowd, its a cesspool.

Neither server is bad. They just have different philisophies how they should be run.

Just saying...

[Archalen]

I'll bring my anti-boxing sentiments right on over there.

People be speaking in tongues by the time I'm done preachin'

[Pokesan]

boxing will never go away on either server.

the main difference between takp and 2002 is staff based.

do you want to develop accurate content on your own? takproject.

do you want to copypaste it from elsewhere and still act smug for some reason? p2002

[Wharhog]

boxing will never go away on either server.

the main difference between takp and 2002 is staff based.

do you want to develop accurate content on your own? takproject.

do you want to copypaste it from elsewhere and still act smug for some reason? p2002

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/9a/9a6c4ae6c227f474e583868f1b708e496430962917afb1bd42 4d3dadf83e1840.jpg

[BossThunderace]

boxing will never go away on either server.

the main difference between takp and 2002 is staff based.

do you want to develop accurate content on your own? takproject.

do you want to copypaste it from elsewhere and still act smug for some reason? p2002

Pokesan will not go away from p2002 threads, this is awesome

has Pokesan tried p2002? no

[Swish]

http://media.giphy.com/media/RHiD0K65NxxLO/giphy.gif

[BossThunderace]

http://media.giphy.com/media/RHiD0K65NxxLO/giphy.gif

swishy my boy, share that popcorn

[Pokesan]

kanly. vendetta!

[Erasong]

swishy my boy, share that popcorn

that is a big ass bag of popped corn!

[Haliyen]

haha

[blondeattk]

many euro players on this?

puts me off alot of emu servers tbh, being on the wrong timezone to the majority of players.

no youtube channel for this?

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

many euro players on this?

puts me off alot of emu servers tbh, being on the wrong timezone to the majority of players.

no youtube channel for this?

TAKP has 2 Euro centered guilds and my own guild has at least 4 euro time players, if that gives you an idea.

[Wharhog]

Kagatob forgets what topic he is posting under...as he attempts to troll our server repeatedly.

We have a Euro crew on the server, look up Ric, or Epic in game!

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

People are always interested in the status of the source material. Deal with it.

[vanklaus]

What's the difference between project2002 and takproject? ..

[Wharhog]

KagatobLuvsAnimu plays on Takp, the rest of us don't!

Anyways.....Takp and P2002 are based on the same source code. The server developers work together to bug report and fix all the code based issues on both servers.

The game side management and database of each server is different.

P2002 gm's leave the players to police themselves with raid content.

Takp has raid rotations.

P2002 has Kunark out, Takp is working on Kunark. That is the cut and dry of it.

[surron]

What's the difference between project2002 and takproject? ..


boxing will never go away on either server.

the main difference between takp and 2002 is staff based.

do you want to develop accurate content on your own? takproject.

do you want to copypaste it from elsewhere and still act smug for some reason? p2002

I am not sure why I would since I already play on TAKP. I prefer to support an open source project that has the ability to fix complicated mechanic issues. Even if content moves a bit slower.

TAKP's database is open source, which means things can be tested for accuracy outside of GM/Dev Team inner circle.

When it comes to p2002, well you just have to take their word for it, those same people play on the server too. These same people had an advanced allahkazam (which was not allowed on TAKP) that they let the guild use during their time on TAKP.

Am I saying these players use the closed source DB to their advantage?

[Wharhog]

http://p2002.com/allaclone/index.php

Here ya go....Allaclone!~

[surron]

Glad to see some transparency Wharhog

[apio]

These same people had an advanced allahkazam (which was not allowed on TAKP)

:rolleyes:

I just want to point out that due to it's open source nature, anyone can host an "advanced allakazaam" and there are no rules against it anywhere on TAK.

[surron]

Your version of allahkazam had loot percentages in it and spawn rate percentages, which WAS against the rules for TAKP.

Tell me Apio, if it wasn't a problem why was the guild link password protected?

http://i.imgur.com/p7m9wZy.jpg

Please don't act like you and the rest of the devs over at p2002 aren't shady Apio.

[apio]

My point stands: Hosting an Allaclone with the DB dump that is accessible to everyone, is not against the rules. If you want to counter that point you should address it, not bring up 10 other things to spin the story in your favor.

Edit: I have included the text from the rules post from the TAK forums for clarification

"Service" is defined as these forums and/or the game server associated with this forum with the same name.

1. You will not exploit ANY bug or weakness in any part of the service. You will not communicate the existence of any such exploitable bug (bugs that grant the user unnatural or unintended benefits within the service), either directly or through public posting, to any other user of the service.

You will promptly report any exploit bug via PM to GMs/Moderators/Admins on the forums. The developers of this service retain the right to classify bugs as they see fit.

Consequences for getting caught intentionally using an unbalancing exploit will result in instant suspension on first warning. After this suspension you will be allowed to play again depending on the severity of the actions.

Be careful you know who you are trading with. If it seems too good to be true, it probably is. We will have trades monitored and logged. If a player has violated this, any and all trades prior to this suspension and character emptying are subject to reversal or items from trades being deleted.

- For testing purposes, when a potential bug exploit is found, it is acceptable to attempt to repeat the bug ONCE so that you may provide as much information about it before reporting it. If you can repeat it once, the dev team will replicate it as many times as needed to verify. All actions can and will be logged. Do not repeatedly "test" this found bug or exploit just to "verify" it's existence, that is our job. A single user repeat is sufficient enough for a bug/exploit report. Do not feel like you are inconveniencing us by not testing it enough first. Once reported, use of said exploit is prohibited. Using a bug exploit with no or delayed intention of reporting it is also prohibited.

- Using a bug or software feature that is "similar" to an in-game function is not an excuse to use or keep using it. For example, using third party software to increase the range of /target. Using a auto key presser to aid in cast skilling or tradeskill combines while afk.

2. AFK, The only afk sanctioned activities are sitting/standing doing nothing, trader mode (when bazaar is in), and bard songs in non-populated areas. All else INCLUDING coin operated/key hold spell casting is up to the GM that is either contacted by someone annoyed by it, or if they deem it a nuisance. . This is not a bannable offense by itself and if used responsibly is likely not going to be considered an issue. Not doing it in populated areas is key. The new CSR GM has told me that the reasons for making afk swimming disallowed he can cover with no issue.
So this rule covers abuses of these activities. They are allowed but only if used responsibly. We reserve the right to take a non ban action against someone not respecting others provided they are not repeat offenders. It is allowed but not encouraged.
note: This does NOT mean that you can use a 3rd party program to automate anything!

3. Alteration or use of said alterations of the EverQuest client or of the data it uses and stores in system memory, cache, or on your hard drive is prohibited and is subject to immediate ban, only 1 warning will be given for this offense. It is at the GM, Moderator, or Admin's discretion if a warning or instant ban is appropriate.

- You may change the graphic on the login and loading screens, however you may not change their functionality in the process.
- You also may use custom UIs in-game, provided the client's functionality is not changed, and the UI adheres to the rules of this server.
- You may replace or alter in-game textures provided the outcome is purely esthetic, and does not alter gameplay at all. etc..., Turning a wall into a window is NOT esthetic and is considered hacking/exploiting.

Use of any third party program used in conjunction with the EverQuest client is strictly prohibited with the exception of:

- STOCK FPS limiters
- STOCK builds of WinEQ2
- STOCK builds of EQPlayNice
- STOCK builds of EQWindows
- STOCK release of eqw based EQMac PC client.
- Log parsing programs such as EQ Companion or Yalp are permitted, and are in fact recommended as they give developers hard numbers for use in tweaking combat.

Map programs are not allowed. If determined you have this running GMs will take actions on the spot.

4. Use of any unapproved clients is strictly prohibited. Including but not limited to:

- Stock/Original versions of 062, Titanium, SOF, SOD, UF, ROF clients and any future PC Live releases.
- This means that you cannot connect to our server with a PC client that has not been patched by eqmule's lastest updates.
- If you log in and see maps and camera follow view (not the same as f9) you have an unapproved client.
- Any unapproved player made clients, either open source or closed source. (If you are developing this and wish for it to be considered it must be closely examined in it's entirety by the Dev team and subject to disapproval)

5. Usage of any bugs or features in exempted third party programs that has in the past, present, or future granted the user unnatural or unintended benefits in game is prohibited.

- See see last note under rule 1.

6. Creation of any macros, programs, scripts, etc to automate any aspect of the game is prohibited. This includes but is not limited to combat situations, trade skills, quests, and buffing/healing/rezzing/etc.

- Boxing is allowed but limited to 3. But if you can't physically manage multiple accounts without the assistance of extra programs or macros, you should not box. We are a community server, this is intended to create and keep the game play as such. No exceptions.

7. You may not disrupt the normal playability of a zone or area.

Zone/Area Disruption is defined as any activity designed to harm or inconvenience a number of groups rather than a specific player or group of players. This includes, but is not limited to:

- Making excessive or inappropriate use of public channels of communications (/shout, /ooc, etc.).
- Intentionally or accidentally causing excessive zone latency or server bandwidth usage (using third party programs, creating excessive corpses, abusing spell effects, etc.)
- Purposely causing or attempting to cause world or a zone to crash.
- Causing or attempting to cause intentional experience, loot, or progress loss to other players (deliberately impeding fleeing players by blocking their escape route, intentionally training NPCs on other players, etc.) The exception to this, of course is consensual PVP play.
- Growing pets or players to an unnatural size.
- Causing or attempting to cause scripts, events, or security measures to fail and/or have a result different than the one expected and/or written by the devs.
- Using large characters to block doorways, either large classes, toons on a horse, or growth spells.

This has been an area of confusion on some servers as to some activities that may or may not fall under this rule. The following are spelled out here and strictly enforced. But not limited to:

- Shakerpaging
- Excessive kiting (meaning half the zone or more than one player/group camp's worth of mobs.) Exception to this is if and ONLY if zone is empty and uncontested. Even then it should be within reason and limited to a small section of the zone.
- Pit War or any other situation that a player can gain experience from mobs in combat with each other (See rule 1) The excuse of "The game mechanics allow for it" is not a viable reason. This is considered exploiting.

8. Harassing (including sexual harassment) of other players, Server Operators, Developers, GMs, or Guides (hereby collectively known as server staff) is strictly prohibited. This includes in-game chat (including private channels), and any in-game action (included but not limited to: training NPCs, kill stealing, flag stealing, camp stealing, ninja looting, impeding movement), and any forum thread or PM here on the forums. If you would like to report someone for harassment please contact the staff.

- Consensual PVP play is partially exempt to this, however deliberate or extreme cases of harassment is still prohibited. It is up to the GM's judgment whether the situation is deliberate or extreme. Corpse camping is not allowed in PvP.

9. Failing to comply with the request of server staff or showing a genuine lack of respect to said representative or of the server through action or words is strictly prohibited. It is up to the representative's discretion whether a sign of disrespect is genuine or not.

10. Vile, profane, rude, offensive, or racist language, including common swear words, anatomical references, racial slurs, terrorism references, illegal drug references (despite the server/player location, medical marijuana IS included in this) and homonyms (sound-alike) of such words are not allowed in any public communication channel. These channels are reserved for public viewing and should not contain messages that can insult or otherwise bother another player. Also including political arguments of real world issues that we all know can flare up into nasty confrontations.

- The above also applies to character names. Any offending toon will have its name changed at a GM's discretion, or will be deleted.

11. This is a family server. Public announcement of real life drunkenness or impairment, sexually explicit material of any form, excessive spamming of topics not game related is not acceptable behavior and subject to suspension for first offense and ban for additional.

- Public is defined as Say, Shout, OOC, Auction, Alliance. Private and guild channels are not subject to this but can fall under rule 8 if others find you to violate that rule.

12. Circumventing, attempting to circumvent, or abusing any character IP limit or ban is forbidden. In some locations this can be considered a legal violation and can be subject to legal ramifications. One forum account per person is the limit. Extra accounts for household members is subject to approval and will be monitored for violations of the 3 box limit. Extra forum accounts must be preapproved. It will be at our discretion if we lock all accounts to those not seeking exemption prior.

- Ammended 2/19/2015 for clarification of an up till now unwritten rule/understanding that we have conveyed in game.
Account sharing IS allowed with the following rules/exceptions to keep in mind:
That you are responsible for any actions taken on your account and for actions of those on their own account you have access.
Also, for those who are sharing an IP address you are responsible for everything that happens with your account being tied to any one particular IP, if records show that accounts were shared across that IP.
If one account or IP is guilty of something the Admins/Devs reserve the right to ban/suspend all accounts that have touched that IP address.
This is retroactively effective due to rule 17 and as it has been discussed in game since Beta launch.

Unlike the trades by association, this can be appealed on irc if you are banned/suspended by proxy. What will result is a day off and a password reset so the access that started the issue is removed.

13. Using the in-game /bug, /report, and /petition systems for purposes for which they are not designed will result in a warning. Using /petition or /report to report bugs, /bug to report harassment, or either to communicate or harass GMs are examples of incorrect usage.

14. "Role-playing", misinterpretation, or ignorance does not grant license to violate any of these rules.

15. Any and ALL discussions public or private on the service about obtaining the client illegally is not allowed. No warnings will be given, this is a strict ban able offense.

16. Real world currency or currency outside the TAKP server transactions and the discussion thereof are strictly not allowed on this service.
- Including any transactions done past present and future.
- By using this service you agree to hold harmless the service and staff of any and all disallowed transactions of this type.
- Account or character trading/selling is not allowed. No exceptions.

17. The server operators of TAKP reserve the right to change, add, or remove any of these rules without warning. Players are required to adhere to these alterations immediately.

18.Rules regarding interactions with GMs on their GM toon and/or play toons.
- Harassing tells for assistance in obtaining any advantage. Meaning asking for anything to assist in testing.
- Openly debating or researching who GM play toons are, as well as disclosing to the public if you know.
- Bugging a GM on a play toon for GM related activities. Use bug and petition or post on the forums as anyone would.
- Asking a GM to use their GM toon on raids in any form. (related to first note) Including if a GM is in your guild and you mention the GM should check for a spawn or anything else.
- GMs that are available at the time of disciplinary actions have their own discretion within the rules to enforce. At no time is it allowed to try to play one GM against another to get a lighter penalty. No GMs will be reducing a penalty if it falls within the stated guidelines. The only modification permissible is if a higher level GM thinks a penalty should be more severe.
- Publicly posting any PM contents regarding interaction from GMs either on this service or any other forums will be grounds for a perma ban.

Any violations that result in a ban will be issued service wide (meaning forums and game server) use irc to appeal, not your friends.

[apio]

If you want to stop people from playing on our server, you should stop promoting us by bumping the two P2002 threads, and instead start bumping the TAKProject thread. Judging from the player numbers and forum numbers, your misinformation campaign is not working. I mean this in the nicest way possible. I have no problem with TAK at all, what I do have a problem with is people who are bitter spreading lies about our server and our staff. I have a buttload of spicy stories from TAK to tell, but I have long realized that I would only promote your server if I kept harping on them. You gotta learn to let things go

[Haynar]

Locking this. It's just turning into a flame fest now.

Just so there is no confusion. The p99 boards are not the rnf forums for battling EQEmu servers to hold their bickering, bitchfests.

Haynar