Shaman Utility Items

[Thorny]

I've managed to scrounge up some extra plat and was looking for some ideas on some necessary utility items that Shamans especially may find useful. Goblin Skull Earring is one that comes to mind. Any items that you guys come across that you wouldn't part with for those times when you really need it? My shaman is level 42 if that helps.

Thanks!

[loramin]

Jaundiced Bone Bracer
Jaundiced Bone Bracer
Jaundiced Bone Bracer

Also, your epic.

Both of those make a HUGE difference, so much so that spending your money on anything else is really a bad idea.

But, that being said, it never hurts to carry around a 10 dose shrink potion (if only to get in to The Hole) and a 10 dose invis vs. undead potion. Also if you don't want to carry around bat wings and fish scales you can always pick up a Pegasus Cloak and a Fish Bone Earring. Also most of the other Jaundiced Bone items have clickies that are convenient when you're low on mana and have a raid full of people to buff.

Also every Shaman should have a Shovel of Ponz (or one of the related items). It lets you unsummon your pet but get your mana back. Not only is this convenient when you're done hunting and want to pack up and zone, but when you first start out somewhere you can use it to make sure you have a "light blue" pet instead of a green one. That makes a big difference.

[Thorny]

How easy is the shovel quest? Would I be able to do it as a troll shaman? Really have no idea what it's about, but that sounds really handy to have.

[loramin]

Not hard at all: http://wiki.project1999.com/Shovel_Of_Ponz_Quest. You can definitely do it at your level, and as a troll (it's a Soulsek Ro quest so all races are welcome).

There's also a similar item that's a broom (http://wiki.project1999.com/Broom_Of_Trilon_Quest), and I think there's a couple others too (Torch of Alna and Stein of Ulissa).

One of them (I think maybe the broom) is supposed to be the best, and the shovel is supposed to be second best, but personally I'm still using my shovel at 57. It gives back at least 95%, if not 100%, of the pet's mana cost, so I've never seen any reason to switch from it.

P.S. Oh and I should have mentioned, the Shovel is a mage-specific item, but Shaman can right-click it from their inventory (the same way we can use our SoW boots from inventory).

[Pep]

There's also a similar item that's a broom (http://wiki.project1999.com/Broom_Of_Trilon_Quest), and I think there's a couple others too (Torch of Alna and Stein of Ulissa).

One of them (I think maybe the broom) is supposed to be the best, and the shovel is supposed to be second best, but personally I'm still using my shovel at 57. It gives back at least 95%, if not 100%, of the pet's mana cost, so I've never seen any reason to switch from it.

Do you have any documentation to back it up? It's the first time I hear it and I'd love to include that info on the wiki if we are sure it's correct.

[Vellaen]

For a shaman, all of the mage focus items are equally useful. The Reclaim Energy effect can be clicked from inventory, as loramin said, and the mana return is based solely upon the pet's health when cast. 100% health = 100% mana returned, 50% health = 50% mana, etc.

None of the items is any better than another, though some are easier to get. The Hill Giant Toes for the shovel quest are going to be much easier to come by than the Fire Giant Toes for the torch, for instance.

[Daldaen]

Goblin Skull Earring - Global Cooldown Removal
Bracer of the Hidden - Junk Buff See Invis
Mage Focus Item (any of 4) - Reclaim Energy for pet, many uses
Wooly Spider Silk Nets (I suggest getting 3-4) - Instant cast root. 3 charges. 21 plat buyback. This facilitates more easily breaking rooms by being able to instantly root CC until you can safely slow/malo/longer duration root
Journeyman's Walking Stick - Proc Tash. Stacking with Malo the extra MR can expediate the landing of a slow or extend root durations. Useful to slow yourself and DEX yourself so your proc rate increases.
Overthere Hammer - Proc to get out of an annoying location. See above about proc rate.
Leatherfoot Raider Skullcap (WC Cap) - Instant WC port - 91 plat buyback. AKA get out of jail free card
Vermillion Sky Ring - PoSky ring with 2 charges of Feign Death. Having FD on a shaman is extremely OP. It allows you to get out of jail free without having to zone and leave your camp. Also it allows you to get out of a wipe at a raid. Or you can use it to run through a zone to get to a camp without clearing. The downside is it is 2 charges and to recharge you have to go to PoSky... You *can* buy a box of void and extra mana battery to have with you when you leave sky such that you have 4 charges but you would need to devote a bag slot to that.
Puppet Strings - Instant cast charmed pet. Very expensive. High end only.
Epic - Mana free DoT
JBB - Mana free nuke
Jaundiced Bone BP - Self DS/AC buff. Little extra survivability and DPS when tanking mobs. One of the final items you should consider purchasing... Quite marginal but it's something you can't get elsewhere.

Other than the Jaundiced and Puppet Strings, I'd say many shamans have everything on this list.

[Wrench]

Journeyman's Walking Stick - Proc Tash. Stacking with Malo the extra MR can expediate the landing of a slow or extend root durations. Useful to slow yourself and DEX yourself so your proc rate increases.

should be stated very carefully, doesnt improve your proc/min, but does increase proc/swing, which is still useful, just different in application

other than that a pretty good list, if adding junk buff items you could probably throw telescope in there

One of them (I think maybe the broom) is supposed to be the best, and the shovel is supposed to be second best.

lmao, loramin strikes again

[loramin]

lmao, loramin strikes again

Huh? I was just repeating what someone said in response when I mentioned the shovel being awesome in a different thread: http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1200001&postcount=13 ... although like I said the Shovel has always seemed fine to me.

Do you have any documentation to back it up? It's the first time I hear it and I'd love to include that info on the wiki if we are sure it's correct.

Not sure what you want documentation on. The thing about one being better than the other comes from the thread I just linked (although based on others comments it seems maybe all four are equal). As for the Shovel returning mana, that's just how Reclaim Energy works.

[Daldaen]

Oh yea!

SoW Boots from Black Dire! Forgot about those. Instant self sow works to remove GCD in outdoor zones, functions as a junk buff, works to SoW you mana free/never loading the spell.

And correct. DEX buff increases your proc rate. I think it's something like 2 Procs per minutes with swings from mainhand at 255 DEX.

So this means if you swing 10 times a minute you will proc roughly every fifth swing or 20% of your swings. However if you slow yourself so that you are only swinging 6 times a minute... You are still going to be procing 2 times per minute that doesn't change. It just increases the likelihood each swing will proc because there are less swings. To the tune of every third swing procs or 33% of swings.

[Zulen]

Is the post nerf Fungi Covered Great Staff (http://wiki.project1999.com/Fungi_Covered_Great_Staff) worth buying for leveling? I figure i would have to keep it equipped as well since it only lasts 5 min and swapping out wisdom items to increase my max mana in those 5 min doesn't seem worth it

[Daldaen]

I feel like the staff is good from 35-50ish. After that though it's sort of weak once shamans get Regrowth. It is mana free... But is it worth it's cost :/.

[loramin]

But is it worth it's cost :/.
I think this is the key thing about the staff: it's not that it's not useful, it's just that for the price it's less useful than many other items. So if you've already got a JBB/epic/Fungi/shovel/good pants/ 2x platinum wedding rings/etc. and you still have plat to burn then the staff might be worth it, but otherwise you should probably buy one of those items instead.

[Pep]

Not sure what you want documentation on. The thing about one being better than the other comes from the thread I just linked (although based on others comments it seems maybe all four are equal). As for the Shovel returning mana, that's just how Reclaim Energy works.

Reclaim Energy is Reclaim Energy, it doesnt matter if the clicky is the shovel, the torch or something else. Although I'm always looking at adding, correcting and updating information on the wiki, and I thought this tidbit was something only a few knew and would be nice to share, the post backing up your claim is just nonsense.

[loramin]

the post backing up your claim is just nonsense.
/sigh It was not my claim. As I wrote:

One of them (I think maybe the broom) is supposed to be the best, and the shovel is supposed to be second best, but personally I'm still using my shovel at 57. It gives back at least 95%, if not 100%, of the pet's mana cost, so I've never seen any reason to switch from it.

My "claim" was that the shovel was just fine, and the rest was (as I indicated) hearsay. Furthermore, if you look at the thread I linked, that hearsay came from a Fire Giant and was immediately backed up by Yumyums (a planar protector/forum legend), so I think it was perfectly reasonable for me to reference it.

[DrKvothe]

I remember that thread, and you're citing it way out of context. For example, see Yumyums post here (later in the thread): http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1200292&postcount=17

[DrKvothe]

If you're level 42, you'll probably travel near all of the places for Tarton's Wheel quest eventually. Any class can do this quest, although it's obviously easier for porting classes. The instant clicky from inventory is a great indoor/outdoor GCD resetter without the annoying effects of spyglass (or telescope, as Wrench likes to call it? isn't it nice to never be wrong?) There's no buff for protecting against dispel, and you have to have a target when you cast it, but unlike the other options its free. I use it on my druid and like it a lot more than my shaman's spyglass.

IVU, Shrink, Cure Poison/Disease pots are all worth considering. Keep a bag full of MR gear; you'll use it on raids but it's also handy if you wanna try to solo a caster mob (canni 2 shaman powder, for example).

Don't worry too much about the tash stick. Jousting or slow-tanking to land tash is almost certainly going to cost you more mana from hp loss, missed med ticks, and slowing yourself or the mob than you'd save from recasting a resisted spell. This is a very important strat at 60 when you've got Torpor and you're slow-tanking mobs anyways. Keep torpor up, slow mob, whack it with tash stick.

[Wrench]

or telescope, as Wrench likes to call it? isn't it nice to never be wrong?

ones the effect name, ones the item name, you really give a shit?

you should go back to white knighting for loramin

you obviously didnt have much context for what i was sayin in the other thread, your just still frothy for me callin you out in the red server thread

you really wanna start shitting up all these threads with my back and forth with you?

[loramin]

I remember that thread, and you're citing it way out of context. For example, see Yumyums post here (later in the thread): http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1200292&postcount=17

So Yumyums cracked a joke, but didn't in any way refute anything, and this shows I took the thread out of context how exactly?

[loramin]

you should go back to white knighting for loramin

Ummm ... he was attacking me and saying I took something out of context, which is sort of the opposite of white knighting.

[Thorny]

Tons of awesome ideas in here. Thanks guys!

[DrKvothe]

So Yumyums cracked a joke, but didn't in any way refute anything, and this shows I took the thread out of context how exactly?

The whole thing was a joke, including what you posted. Broom > the rest as a matter of what the poster feels a shaman should banish his dog with. Yumyums post just explained the joke most explicitly.

"One of them (I think maybe the broom) is supposed to be the best, and the shovel is supposed to be second best, but personally I'm still using my shovel at 57. It gives back at least 95%, if not 100%, of the pet's mana cost, so I've never seen any reason to switch from it."

You suggest that the items may be functionally different from one another, which is not what the post you referenced was actually saying. That's how you cited it out of context.

Wrench, you've polluted every thread you post in, including this one, with snarky bullshit attacks on one or more posters. And yes I'm pissed off at you for trolling the shit out of my thread on Red; I ask a genuine question about social conventions on the server and you turn it into RnF.

[Wrench]

And yes I'm pissed off at you for trolling the shit out of my thread on Red; I ask a genuine question about social conventions on the server and you turn it into RnF.

trolled the shit out of? you had a problem with a group mate and wanted to wait till he was low on hp to one shot pk em, i told you to man up and actually say somethin to him first

mine was actually the best advice you got in that thread your just to hypersensitive to realize it

leave red and seek help irl

[DrKvothe]

Actually you're right, it was bodybagger who trolled for 2 pages, you just came in and were rude as fuck all at once. The same way you've been to loramin. Because "a real man" hides behind the internet and talks shit.

If anyone reading this cares, my post was asking how the red server felt about cold-blooded murder of a groupmate who played badly. One of the perks of red, right? I got a lot of helpful feedback:
degroup + announcement of intent + 10 second head start imo.
lvling up a 3rd alt

my group killed a legit afk necro over the course of 2 days in COM, he apologized for afking so much made excuses. Leeched one time for 30 min straight, then again for 25 while he was eating, constant smoke breaks was fd in the wall. We killed him twice, and refused to group with him once. This was a PUG.

In mistmoore had an issues at graveyard, rogue afk non stop, pked him. In group and booted.

Same in Solb, afk rogue, ended up getting dumped.

do what feels right
Kill him
I think it would be cool to discuss this in earnest.

Part of the value of Red is that one's actions can have consequences. If you annoy someone on Blue, they may /ignore you or report you or badmouth you or simply avoid grouping with you...but on Red, they may attack you. That gives us all a little more accountability to each other. If you misbehave or play poorly or refuse to take input, you'd better be ready to defend yourself.

Secondly, no one has grounds to be mad at you about PvP here. Everyone knows they're signing into the PvP server. All players on this server have signed up for PvP, even those that just came here to avoid the crowding and bottlenecks on Blue server. All players know the risk. Therefore, they have no right to accuse you of wrongdoing if you attack or kill them. Bind camping is unacceptable, twink griefing is shameful, but PvP is totally acceptable.

As for me, I like to play according to my own sense of honor. I would give the player some respectful feedback or input and ask for what I want (in this case, to focus more on healing, or to stay above 30% hp or whatever it is, or to stop going AFK so long); an if no change occurs, kill them. Depending on what class I'm playing, I might need other group members to help.
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1787462&postcount=5
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1787495&postcount=8
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1787511&postcount=10
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1788050&postcount=35

And here's Wrench's oh so helpful response: same goes to you op, if you dont have the balls to even say something in group to shaman to tell them to stop acting like an idiot, dont act like waiting for them to get very low on hp to one shot them makes you some kinda man
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1792164&postcount=49
You expect me to thank you for talking to me like that? Screw you, asshole.

[Wrench]

absolutely you should thank me, altho you may be to emotionally immature to realize it atm

your overreaction to a small jab at your manhood shows me your skin is much to thin

your horribly mistaken if you think im the worst your going to run into on the forums or ingame

[DrKvothe]

I'm fine with who I am, it's who you are that I don't like.

[blizzard]

Can someone please explain what global cooldown removal is why I should get the goblin skull earring? Thank you

[Celeador]

It seems to me that the shovel would be very good for turning the pet into a clutch mana battery. Am I wrong here?

[BlkCamel]

Can someone please explain what global cooldown removal is why I should get the goblin skull earring? Thank you

Without Goblin Skull Earring:

1. Cast Canni.
2. Wait 1.5 seconds for global cool down, which prevents the casting of any spells.
3. Cast Canni.

Many will time Canni to med ticks and sit between casts to eliminate this inefficiency of not being able to re-cast canni for additional mana gain. Timing med ticks also causes you to take longer then 1.5 seconds many times waiting for tick before you stand and cast Canni again.

With Goblin Skull Earring:

1. Cast Canni
2. Click Goblin Skull Earring
3. Immediately re-cast Canni

You now no longer have to sit between casts wasting time or rapidly top off mana by chain casting Canni. You have eliminated 1.5 second delay and any lost time waiting for med ticks. This means you gain mana much, much faster. It turns Canni into a poor mans Manastone (one with a cast time).

Most people will make a hotkey of Earring slot and put it on hot bar. As example I put Goblin Earring on NumPad* and Canni on NumPad9 and after Canni completes hit NumPad* followed by Numpad9.:D

[Brocode]

Without Goblin Skull Earring:

1. Cast Canni.
2. Wait 1.5 seconds for global cool down, which prevents the casting of any spells.
3. Cast Canni.

Many will time Canni to med ticks and sit between casts to eliminate this inefficiency of not being able to re-cast canni for additional mana gain. Timing med ticks also causes you to take longer then 1.5 seconds many times waiting for tick before you stand and cast Canni again.

With Goblin Skull Earring:

1. Cast Canni
2. Click Goblin Skull Earring
3. Immediately re-cast Canni

You now no longer have to sit between casts wasting time or rapidly top off mana by chain casting Canni. You have eliminated 1.5 second delay and any lost time waiting for med ticks. This means you gain mana much, much faster. It turns Canni into a poor mans Manastone (one with a cast time).

Most people will make a hotkey of Earring slot and put it on hot bar. As example I put Goblin Earring on NumPad* and Canni on NumPad9 and after Canni completes hit NumPad* followed by Numpad9.:D

I cant get this to work, everytime i get spell not recovered yet, unless i do a mini delay on inst cast.

[BlkCamel]

I cant get this to work, everytime i get spell not recovered yet, unless i do a mini delay on inst cast.

mini delayed required if your client/you are fast. Working right.

[Udabut]

I cant get this to work, everytime i get spell not recovered yet, unless i do a mini delay on inst cast.

Canni needs to be in your first gem slot for this to work. The first gem slot is the only one that gets the instant re-fresh.

[theaetatus]

Canni needs to be in your first gem slot for this to work. The first gem slot is the only one that gets the instant re-fresh.

Not true. Any slot will be fine.

[BlkCamel]

Not true. Any slot will be fine.

Can Confirm (Although, I always have Canni Top anyways). Just need to add split second delay between completion of canni and either strike of earring or recast of Canni, they delay is a split second and wont slow you down.

[DrKvothe]

I'm not sure if you mean that it's been changed, but previously only top slot let you chain cast. You could alternate between spells without gcd when using clicky, but only top slot could be chain cast.

I always had a root spell in top slot. I found that the times I needed to root multiple times in a row without worrying about GCD were much more important the times I'd like to canni multiple times in a row.

[BlkCamel]

I'm not sure if you mean that it's been changed, but previously only top slot let you chain cast. You could alternate between spells without gcd when using clicky, but only top slot could be chain cast.

I always had a root spell in top slot. I found that the times I needed to root multiple times in a row without worrying about GCD were much more important the times I'd like to canni multiple times in a row.

I'll have to test this more as I mainly use it to canni or quick cast between the other gems.

[BlkCamel]

I'll have to test this more as I mainly use it to canni or quick cast between the other gems.


Tested this and DrKvothe is correct top slot only insta refresh. Clicking still clears GCD but only top slot clears gem instantly. Tried Canni in slot 6 and had a much longer wait time.

Guess I never tried it with a spell with such a fast refresh time in the other slots.

[DrKvothe]

If you're alternating between spells, clicky works fine. Also, you can instant queue up your next spell after an epic click or jbb with no problem, and use these items instantly after your spells. I never got torpor, so I don't know how that changes things, but pre-60 you can either:
1) canni top slot: get 2 cannis in between med ticks. You can't chain root between crowds but you can alternate root/malo with clicky while your dog takes a beating.
2) PE top slot: only 1 canni reliably between med ticks. I usually tack a canni onto each epic click when I can. When you fight a pack and send dog in, you can root everything much more quickly, and dog might even live. But then you've gotta reroot before your first epic click on each mob to get the timing right (2 epic clicks per PE). Against tougher packs you can root all of them, pull back dog, malo-->root/epic, etc.

With torpor you've got 4 options that seem reasonable to me for top slot: PE, torpor, slow, and canni. You've got a lot more hp to burn though and don't need to worry about med ticks while you face tank, so canni would make a whole lot of sense imo. I'm not sure how clicky reset works with bash interrupts or how often you'll find yourself needing to recast after a dispel (should have buffs stacked, have they changed dispel mechanics?) or recast on a second target or whatever. I would assume you don't often need to cast two torpors back to back, but as it's the strongest spell in our arsenal I wouldn't discount it. As for slow, as far as I know against a single, summoning mob you'll torpor, open with malo, then slow until it lands. After that you've got time to tash stick + malosini + epic + dots + afkfap as long as you keep an eye on torpor and slow durations. So to me that'd suggest chaining slow could be a life-saver if you're hitting resists. *shrug* Anybody know?

[BlkCamel]

If you're alternating between spells, clicky works fine. Also, you can instant queue up your next spell after an epic click or jbb with no problem, and use these items instantly after your spells. I never got torpor, so I don't know how that changes things, but pre-60 you can either:
1) canni top slot: get 2 cannis in between med ticks. You can't chain root between crowds but you can alternate root/malo with clicky while your dog takes a beating.
2) PE top slot: only 1 canni reliably between med ticks. I usually tack a canni onto each epic click when I can. When you fight a pack and send dog in, you can root everything much more quickly, and dog might even live. But then you've gotta reroot before your first epic click on each mob to get the timing right (2 epic clicks per PE). Against tougher packs you can root all of them, pull back dog, malo-->root/epic, etc.

With torpor you've got 4 options that seem reasonable to me for top slot: PE, torpor, slow, and canni. You've got a lot more hp to burn though and don't need to worry about med ticks while you face tank, so canni would make a whole lot of sense imo. I'm not sure how clicky reset works with bash interrupts or how often you'll find yourself needing to recast after a dispel (should have buffs stacked, have they changed dispel mechanics?) or recast on a second target or whatever. I would assume you don't often need to cast two torpors back to back, but as it's the strongest spell in our arsenal I wouldn't discount it. As for slow, as far as I know against a single, summoning mob you'll torpor, open with malo, then slow until it lands. After that you've got time to tash stick + malosini + epic + dots + afkfap as long as you keep an eye on torpor and slow durations. So to me that'd suggest chaining slow could be a life-saver if you're hitting resists. *shrug* Anybody know?

Slow is probably the only other spell worth putting in top slot for resists or multiple mobs. Root could be worth it and so could Sup Heal.:D

[Brocode]

thanks guys, always have it on first slot and i understand i was too fast, if you go too fast you get the not recovered message.

Is there any way to make click item on a macro?