Mask of Deception Acquisition

[PDX0621]

So I tried to research this before starting a new thread, but there seemed to be a lot of misinformation and contradictions, so here goes...

I just made a new rogue the other day, and I'd like to get him a mask. What is a feasible/viable level to take him to Lguk in search of one? Can I sneak/hide my way down to the spawn area? Some people say the mobs can see through, others say good to go. Anyone done this recently who can confirm? Ideally I'd park my rogue there and just do the camp myself with my druid.

[Sage Truthbearer]

Can I sneak/hide my way down to the spawn area?

I believe that sneak/hide does not invis vs. undead anymore. You will need both regular invis (for bats, gargoyles) as well as invis vs undead (for frogloks, skellies) to travel to ass/sup.

[Biopimp]

I am pretty sure sneak and hide does work against undead. I remember doing it on live with my rogue.

[Cecily]

The mobs can't see you on the dead side. Just make sure you get a successful hide and a successful sneak. A big exception is the assassin himself CAN see you.

[Qtip]

So I tried to research this before starting a new thread, but there seemed to be a lot of misinformation and contradictions, so here goes...

I just made a new rogue the other day, and I'd like to get him a mask. What is a feasible/viable level to take him to Lguk in search of one? Can I sneak/hide my way down to the spawn area? Some people say the mobs can see through, others say good to go. Anyone done this recently who can confirm? Ideally I'd park my rogue there and just do the camp myself with my druid.
I would sit rogue at zonline and wait for a group who is moving down. Do it one day when you aint got much to do.

[Wenlaid]

sweet was just wondering about this myself as I haven't had to get the mask for 14yr's . Thanks all

[Mentathiel]

I did it at 18, but you could do it as soon as you have hide and sneak; just don't get seen by the assassin. If you camp there, someone will kill him and the mask will be left to rot. But be careful; monks like to use FD when they pull, which can set him onto you, so don't camp right under the Ass/Sup room and run away if the party there look like they are about to wipe before killing him.

[PDX0621]

Awesome, thanks for the info all who responded. I see some naked dungeon delving ahead of me. Maybe I'll go to Lguk too!

[Conky]

I parked my alt at dead side ent, logged on my main, killed everything up ass/sup camp, pulled assassin near the ent, killed him, logged on alt and looted.

[Vega]

I think one of the gargs has a chance to spawn as see invis. Just a heads up.

[PDX0621]

I parked my alt at dead side ent, logged on my main, killed everything up ass/sup camp, pulled assassin near the ent, killed him, logged on alt and looted.

Good idea, I think I'll give that a try.

[iruinedyourday]

pretty sure I did it fine at 16

[Mentathiel]

I took a couple of days to get my mask, in and out due to a small queue of rogues and bards needing their mask and a general lack of players going after the assassin, but never met anything which could see through my hide skill other than the assassin. As long as you take the shortest route from Upper Guk to the Ass/Sup room, you should be fine.

Speaking of sneaking; taking a rogue naked into Chardok is a fun adventure. The current version of hide/sneak (not sure whether that is pre- or post-fix) is so effective that it feels like cheating. There are a fair few mobs marked as 'see hide' in the wiki, but nowhere near as many as can see invisible and half of those mobs cannot actually see through hide. Generally, unless it can backstab or use stealth, it's almost certainly not going to see a hidden rogue.

[falkun]

Dogs in Chardok should be seeing rogues, and maybe royals/their guards.

[PDX0621]

Sneaked in last night, with the plan of scouting it out. Ran into a druid who was camping assassin/supplier, and let hang out. BS'd with him while waiting for pops. I think I stuck around for 7-8 spawns before I had to crash, but never saw the assassin. Is he pretty rare?

[Grimjaw]

no that's unlucky

[PDX0621]

no that's unlucky

Good to know. Supplier spawned twice during that same time span. The druid let me loot one of the bags, so I can't complain. I'll have to try again another time. Rogue is still parked there. If anyone is planning on doing the camp and doesn't need/want the mask, and want's someone to BS with, gimme a hollar. I'd be more than happy to hang out!

[Mentathiel]

When I got my mask, there was a 6-hour period where the assassin just didn't spawn for the group camping there. The respawn is about half an hour, so that is 12 consecutive spawns, but people were saying how odd that was.

Dogs in Chardok should be seeing rogues, and maybe royals/their guards.
Hey, I never said anything about sneaking back out again...

[Macha]

Dogs in Chardok should be seeing rogues, and maybe royals/their guards.

I fell in the trap while sneak/hid and the King/guards did not aggro me. I can't say the same about the Queen but my assumption is the same.
I think the dogs are the only thing you have to worry about in that zone.
Although I did hand a Sarnak my lock picks on accident while trying to open the door so that killed me pretty good :)

I used to sneak/hide to ass/sup all the time as early as lvl 30 and never got aggro once so I don't know about that gargoyle that sees invis. And yes, you can do this as early as level 3 when you get hide. Just be sure to get a successful sneak/hide message. Also, if you strafe sideways while sneaking it's a LOT faster than moving forward.
Oh and one last thing, I think there is a safe spot pretty close to ass/sup. May be better to camp out there instead of going all the way to the zone line. Ask around to see where it is; I don't remember exactly where it is.

They fixed sneak/hide a few months ago so it works much better now. I'm only ever careful in solb and a very few select other zones.

[Wenlaid]

Thanks to some nice BDA ppl I got my mask at level 7 today

[Thuja]

I did a few weeks ago. No mobs saw through my see invis. The one exception is the assassin himself. Toggle camera view on the ladder to see if he's up. If he's got a dagger there is no mask. Took me about two days to get a mask but the couple days after I know numerous ones rotted. This was all on red. Remember to sneak hide after zoning in. I prefer the waterfall root as no mobs were by ZL. Good Luck!

[Thuja]

Btw the safe spot to camp is in the nook next to the bottom of the ladder nearby the torch. You won't get argo form the wandering mobs.

[PDX0621]

Currently camping ass/supp, stop by and say hello if you're in the area!

[PDX0621]

Just a man, by himself, in a dungeon, inside a 15 y/o elf simulator, watching vintage Bob Ross painting episodes on youtube to pass the time. Paradise.

[PDX0621]

Paradise.

More like, trouble in paradise. I must be cursed. So assassin had popped and a guy go the mask, before turning camp over to me. So far, it's been 4 complete cycles of spawns, no assassin or supplier. I'm cursed.

[Mentathiel]

I fell in the trap while sneak/hid and the King/guards did not aggro me. I can't say the same about the Queen but my assumption is the same.
I think the dogs are the only thing you have to worry about in that zone.
For me, the dogs did not aggro straight away. They even conned indifferent at first (I think sneak still works) until I tried walking in front of one. In any case, you can often sit in a corner and wait (as long as the group doesn't wipe or drag an AoE-casting mob too close to you) until one of the wizards (and this is Chardok, there will be wizards) wants to port out.

Btw the safe spot to camp is in the nook next to the bottom of the ladder nearby the torch. You won't get argo form the wandering mobs.
But you will get aggro from monks using FD...

I went down the ramp and sat out of sight of that corridor; you will see the combat spam even from the floor below and can come back up to investigate after you see the 'X has killed a Ghoul Assassin' message.

[Grimjaw]

they patched those dogs to see-invis here months into kunark

[PDX0621]

Good news! Shortly after my last post last night, Assassin and Supplier spawned, so I was able to walk away happy with my mask and new bag :)

[Pep]

This info goes into the wiki, so other lowbie rogues who read the article on the Mask know they can go loot one.

http://wiki.project1999.com/Mask_of_Deception