Nostalrius WoW

[Flexin]

Didn't see a post on it so I'll leave this here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yStjVurkNvs

Vanilla server, 1x rates, released without ZG/Diremaul and is the only private server to have pre-item revamp values and to go appropriately with the true timeline.

Had a few stress tests the other week and it ended up being really stable with over 2000 unique players online. It's been in closed beta for 4 years and is scheduled to release this upcoming 28th of Feb.


<Added by Sikorsky>
Spreadsheet of P99 people playing Nostalrius:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uUR3HqZ-ID2t1xSWJaxmxOiL2CkAXk7mOrv-u0ntyCA/edit#gid=0

[SHOWITME]

project2004

[Rec]

hosted in france? usa players losing in pvp because of the ping disadvantage?!

[Flexin]

I didn't find it too shabby, playing from west coast and had a steady 90-105 MS. After what happened with Rebirth and them having to move it to Europe or wherever I doubt well see a US hosted WoW private server any time soon.

[Erasong]

miss old WoW. might try this out.

Side note. did anyone else beta WoW when undead were like undead mobs and couldnt be CC'ed by normal spells etc? I had some shitface nightelf get me good tho and chain Shackle undead me till i had to pull the plug.

[apio]

I think I'm going to give this a shot
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[Tankdan]

Every server Ive seen claim "blizzlike 1x leveling" has never been blizzlike.
Every server Ive seen claim "fully scripted" has never been filly scripted.

As much as I love classic, dungeon finder becomes sorely missed and turns WoW into quest grind.

[moss_snake_shadowknight]

hosted in france? usa players losing in pvp because of the ping disadvantage?!

how do you think Euro players feel on the red server here? ;)

[Rec]

dungeon finder sorely missed sounds like someone who is afraid to talk to people to start a group.

[Pringles]

Ill give it a shot, very much liked vanilla wow.

[Lune]

dungeon finder becomes sorely missed

http://i.imgur.com/X8hwplN.gif

[sox7d]

PoK books become sorely missed

maps become sorely missed

bazaar becomes sorely missed

instances become sorely missed (outside the context of a wtf raidscene)

[moss_snake_shadowknight]

dungeon finder ruined the community feel of a server :/

[Flexin]

I agree that a large portion of the claims private servers make are bullshit. Feenix was terrible in all aspects, Valkyrie is the only one out right now that is some what blizzlike but the non-existant US pop and waiting on AQ for 2 1/2 years makes that server awful.

I tested a few things on Nostalrius that I wanted to make sure worked that were usually bugged elsewhere. Lower tier instance scripts, SFK, Gnomer (and all the quests), ZF, all work and are scripted correctly, so you're actually going to get a proper working and relatively difficult dungeon for the amount of time you put in to traveling around.

Mobs sleep at night, no disconnecting or falling through the boats, line of sight has been entirely reworked from scratch so charge, cc, boats all work properly. Seems promising, always a chance it gets ddos'd to shit though.

[nilbog]

wtf is a dungeon finder?

And should I try Nostalrius or wait for kronos, and why?

[Flexin]

Nostalrius kind of forced Kronos's hand, and that's why Kronos is releasing open beta the day prior to Nostalrius release.

Anyone familiar with private servers or oldschool WoW should be able to tell within the first 2 hours if the server they are playing on has the real extra work put into it. The one thing Nostalrius is currently promising that Kronos hasn't is the original release gear values. Hit rating is pretty much non existant, the blues that you normally thought were pre-raid bis from BRD are greens on release and sometime after BWL is defeated they'll patch in ZG and the item revamp.

Kronos isn't out yet, don't care much for an open beta, and I like the progressive timeline Nostalrius has. Nostalrius has been around for like 4 years prior to them closing the server and releasing it as an international 1x rates box, they've had AQ20/40 and Naxx mostly flawless for a few years already.

Also forgot to add that Nostalrius has the original 8 debuff slot limit, so until BWL is cleared players will be limited to 8 debuffs on bosses and not 16 (or unlimited like feenix and other servers let you do).

[pasi]

Nostalrius kind of forced Kronos's hand, and that's why Kronos is releasing open beta the day prior to Nostalrius release.

Anyone familiar with private servers or oldschool WoW should be able to tell within the first 2 hours if the server they are playing on has the real extra work put into it. The one thing Nostalrius is currently promising that Kronos hasn't is the original release gear values. Hit rating is pretty much non existant, the blues that you normally thought were pre-raid bis from BRD are greens on release and sometime after BWL is defeated they'll patch in ZG and the item revamp.

Kronos isn't out yet, don't care much for an open beta, and I like the progressive timeline Nostalrius has. Nostalrius has been around for like 4 years prior to them closing the server and releasing it as an international 1x rates box, they've had AQ20/40 and Naxx mostly flawless for a few years already.

Also forgot to add that Nostalrius has the original 8 debuff slot limit, so until BWL is cleared players will be limited to 8 debuffs on bosses and not 16 (or unlimited like feenix and other servers let you do).

I posted on this recently, but this is dead on. The problem with trying to do a Vanilla WoW server is that WoW major patches are like EQ expansions in terms of shaping the game.

The Blizz model was to launch difficult content, then nerf it as time goes to let more people experience it. Original MC was drastically different than even MC right before BWL, let alone 1.12. Same thing with BWL.

You mentioned the dungeon gear revamps which were *huge* as a lot of the revamped blues were PvE BiS (or close to) until AQ stuff. In addition to the 8 slot debuffs, you also had the original spirit mechanics (basically 5 second rule starting with the start of a cast) which necessitated healer rotations as downranking isn't viable with low levels of +healing. Retarded raid itemization, very different talent trees, etc.

I'll probably check this out. Looking forward to putting on my pre-nerf Spirit of Aquementas, Choker of Enlightenment, and Crown of the Penitent.

[nilbog]

I guess I'll look into Nostalrius, and wait to see how kronos shapes up.


I like the progressive timeline Nostalrius has.

I'm curious just how progressive it will be. In comparison to p99, will there ever be a wow emu that is < 1.12? i.e. Original druid talent tree had hurricane at the bottom; in 1.12, it is a spell. Do the developers choose to start later in the timeline, or are there client/mechanical issues that prevent it?

[Flexin]

It apparently is practically impossible to provide 1.04 talents or anything prior to 1.12. Similar to p99 the client just wont allow for it. Can't find the exact quote they posted on it but, essentially the stock 1.12 client doesn't visually support the changing of the talent trees. They can change them server side, but the talents will always appear as invalid tooltip to the user. They also apparently would have to give players more talent points and put in "filler" talents to even be able to code it to connect properly.

I dont really know what any of that means but ultimately they say it would cause more problems than it would be worth.

[Tankdan]

dungeon finder sorely missed sounds like someone who is afraid to talk to people to start a group.

No it sounds like somebody that has tried a hundred different private servers and knows that people will grind quests instead of forming groups if there is no dungeon finder option because people have been accustomed to it for so long. Don't say I didn't warn you. If you need examples of this, try every vanilla private server in the history of vanilla private servers and let me know how forming a group goes for you.

[Flexin]

No it sounds like somebody that has tried a hundred different private servers and knows that people will grind quests instead of forming groups if there is no dungeon finder option because people have been accustomed to it for so long. Don't say I didn't warn you. If you need examples of this, try every vanilla private server in the history of vanilla private servers and let me know how forming a group goes for you.

It's a 1x rates server, if the dungeons work properly I 100% assure you people will be running VC, SM, Mara, for the ballin blue quests for it's level.

[Tankdan]

It's a 1x rates server, if the dungeons work properly I 100% assure you people will be running VC, SM, Mara, for the ballin blue quests for it's level.

I really hope so, not trying to be negative nancy, just always been dissapointed in WoW private servers, mostly due to the "fully scripted" myth that every server promises. I will certainly give it a shot.

[Swish]

can you pay to win on this server? or put another way, do "donations" allow you easy access to certain items you'd normally be grinding etc?

[Flexin]

No, I don't even think there is a cosmetic shop. The head contributer to the project is some investor/trust fund guy and says the server will continuously be up without the help of the community. That being said I believe you can still donate for server upkeep or whatever.

[username17]

Thanks OP for posting this. I will def be trying this. I signed up on the forums and I'm starting to get hyped up for it. Shared the link with a few friends as well.

I logged onto my old Feenix account and did some BGs on the instant 60 server so I can knock the rust off my leet WoW skillz.

[Tankdan]

Any U.S. based players been on beta that can tell us how the ping is and disconnects?

[baub]

Any U.S. based players been on beta that can tell us how the ping is and disconnects?

yea west coast here, my routing to EU is horrible and I was pulling around 140ms, no disconnects.

compared to the 300ms i often got on feenix servers this place seems like a miracle.

[Flexin]

Make sure you bring old morlaeth with you baub.

[Gnorme]

What race/class are you planning to play Flex?

[citizen1080]

Interesting....its been so long with so many changes...i barely remember the class balance back then. I remember shamans been OP as fuck. And hunters didn't use pets...that's about it. Anyone bored enough to give me a class breakdown from way back when. +/- for each class etc?

[Flexin]

the talents are 1.12 bob, so nothing really obscure. Druids and shamans both lack CC so don't expect to get that from either of them, no cyclone or hex yet.

Probably going oomkin gnorme, got a guild of pals that will carry me with that shitter role, plus the pvp is fun. Alliance.

[pasi]

Class balance is different horde/alliance wise and also changes from raid to raid, but here goes from an early vanilla (MC/BWL).

Warriors: With gear, kings of PvE DPS alliance side due to blessing of salvation. Horde side, they are capable of more damage with windfury (versus BoKings) They are also the only viable tank for raiding. Vanilla raids will require multiple tanks and the prot tree is garbage until mid BWL, so you can do a 31/5/15 spec and be happy in all aspects of the game.

PvP wise, they are the only class with a % based healing reduction (wound poison sucks), so they are by far the most important DPS class for group PvP. Intercept makes them the most mobile melee class in PvP as well. However, they are very gear dependent as the rage mechanic isn't scaled yet.

Rogues: PvE wise, they're probably the best DPS class since they don't require dick for gear to do good damage (unlike warriors). You can do very good DPS with a barman shanker from BRD. We no joke used 13 rogues for our first Ragnaros kill (early early on Ragnaros would bug out after the first sons phase, so you had to kill him before sons). They have multiple ways of dropping aggro which is very important for vanilla raiding.

PvP wise, they are very strong due to the amount of control they have between cheap shot, kidney shot, gouge, kick, sap, and blind. Their damage is pretty solid as well.

Mages: PvE wise, their damage is mediocre, but they are ranged which is a gigantic advantage in Vanilla. Like all caster DPS, they have mana issues unless you chug mana potions. There isn't a ton of +spellpower stuff early on to improve your damage either. Once raid gear gets re-itemized, they become a little better, but early on, itemization sucks. It doesn't help that fire is basically worthless in MC/BWL. They are also the defacto AE class.

PvP wise, they have the best burst in the game via AP/PoM and the best CC in the game via frost nova, polymorph, and counterspell being fucking 10 seconds. They are also the best class for breaking cloak of fire which would allow a mage with iceblock and ZG/ToEP to win 1v40. Frost mages are basically impossible to kill in world PvP and their combo of CC/burst makes them by far the best class for objective based PvP (BGs). Oh yeah, they also have the best ranged AoE for shit like AV/Southshore.

Warlocks: PvE wise, their curses (recklessness, elements, and shadows) imp, summoning, and soulstones are great utility. Shadow damage stuff is under-budgetted and way more available than spellpower. They're basically above mages if you have a shadowpriest and below mages if you don't. Like druids, even if they suck in PvE, you have to bring them for their unique CC (banish), brez (soulstone), and buff (imp). There are also a gimmick fight or two where warlocks make the best tanks due to their ability to mitigate spell damage.

PvP wise, there are significant differences between a horde lock and an alliance lock. In vanilla, you can expect around half the horde to be undead. Will of the Forsaken is 30 seconds of fear immunity every 2 minutes. WotF wrecks warlocks, and only alliance locks have to face it. Horde locks can roll Orc which enables them to get a ton of stun resistance (stuns also wreck locks). Horde locks also do not have to deal with Earth Shock (interrupt on a 5 second cooldown). Lastly, curse of tongues absolutely wrecks paladins (and priests to a lesser degree), but is only a minor nuisance to shaman who can dispel it. Alliance requires a druid (non-existent outside of FCs) or a mage to dispel it. Resists curses originally allowed players to have negative resists which amplified damage. This meant that you could often 1 shot people with some luck as a warlock. Thus, they're ridiculous horde side, but meh alliance side.

Hunters: PvE wise, they are the most desirable DPS class. They are a solid #3 behind rogues and warriors, but they are ranged and thus require little to no support. They have the best aggro dump in the game which also allowed them to rez and drink. In addition to being ranged, hunters require little gear relative to other classes. Weapon speed scaling made their best weapon a level 30 xbow until the chrommagus xbow.

PvP wise, frost trap is probably the most anti-melee ability in the game. However, fights are rarely stationary in vanilla since worthwhile PvP is basically BGs. It took until arena for people to realize how broken frost trap is. Hunters excel at controlling a midfield. Viper sting wrecks priests and mages, and their damage is incredible on cloth/leather. The ZG trinket which resets their cooldowns makes their burst very strong. Their damage and mana drain is very strong, but the class lacks good CC.

The rest to be continued.

Shit, saw it was 1.12 talents. A lot of this don't apply!

[citizen1080]

Pasi your wisdom knows no bounds. <3

Looking forward to part 2

[Tankdan]

clerics get Blackout stun talent again? I hope so.

[Lune]

Warlocks: PvE wise, their curses (recklessness, elements, and shadows) imp, summoning, and soulstones are great utility. Shadow damage stuff is under-budgetted and way more available than spellpower. They're basically above mages if you have a shadowpriest and below mages if you don't. Like druids, even if they suck in PvE, you have to bring them for their unique CC (banish), brez (soulstone), and buff (imp). There are also a gimmick fight or two where warlocks make the best tanks due to their ability to mitigate spell damage.

PvP wise, there are significant differences between a horde lock and an alliance lock. In vanilla, you can expect around half the horde to be undead. Will of the Forsaken is 30 seconds of fear immunity every 2 minutes. WotF wrecks warlocks, and only alliance locks have to face it. Horde locks can roll Orc which enables them to get a ton of stun resistance (stuns also wreck locks). Horde locks also do not have to deal with Earth Shock (interrupt on a 5 second cooldown). Lastly, curse of tongues absolutely wrecks paladins (and priests to a lesser degree), but is only a minor nuisance to shaman who can dispel it. Alliance requires a druid (non-existent outside of FCs) or a mage to dispel it. Resists curses originally allowed players to have negative resists which amplified damage. This meant that you could often 1 shot people with some luck as a warlock. Thus, they're ridiculous horde side, but meh alliance side.

Man this is some top notch analysis. I distinctly remember my alliance lock getting buttfucked in classic, hard, when I couldn't hide in the back of a pack of people. Earth shock + tremor totem + wotf = I mostly pve'd on that char or did AV. Can't wait to hear what you have to say about druids, my favorite class in vanilla.

[Origin]

Will be playing this. Hard. Probably go Horde.

[Erasong]

im really thinkin about it....cant decide. horde or ally. ive always went horde. might wanna do something different.

[Deadmantis]

Played alliance on Wildhammer, and horde on Frostmane, liked em both. So picking a side will be a coin toss. Tried a couple different vanilla wow servers in the past and found them to be buggy or low population. This looks very promising.

According to their facebook page, 1000 accts were just registered in less than an hour.

[Breeziyo]

I'm an officer in <team dog> on the server once it comes up. Hit us up on the Nost forum if you're interested in joining us. We're in the Alliance guild subforum. We've got a good group of people among the core so far who are gladiator+ experienced on retail WoW so we'll probably end up doing a lot of PvP until we can field a raid, but definitely going to try hard to get the members for raiding ASAP.

We've been chatting about it quite a bit, but how many good players do you think could carry a raid like MC? 20 or so good + geared people with 30 people total minimum? We've never raided Vanilla but people I've talked to said it's fairly easy early on. We're trying to gauge when we can start pushing into raiding.

[Flexin]

Depends Breez, there a certain fights like Garr or golemagg in this gear range that are going to require multiple tanks and then the appropriate healers. I would say a solid core of 25 at release with the right classes could carry MC, and then fill it up with warm bodies. The server has over a thousand accounts already, you'll have no problem filling up once the flood of casuals hits 60.

The vanilla you see on other private servers is by no means difficult, you get access to gear thats months ahead on the time line + 1.12 talents + broken coefficients and boss mechanics or debuff limit.

Even if some of the values for spells are messed up on Nostalrius, having an 8 debuff limit and the old 1.04 item values will make it leagues harder than any of the crap Feenix or even Scriptcraft put out.

[pasi]

My last post is/was aimed at a different era than 1.12, but I'll continue it anyways for entertainment.

Druid: In my opinion, druids were hands down the weakest class in this era. Balance had some good individual talents, but was a complementary tree, I don't think I ever saw a full on balance druid outside of the occasional guy showing up to the raid with hurricane as a joke. Feral could become semi-viable DPS, but it required an extremely dedicated player to gear up. You had to grind out marshal stuff, all sorts of reputations, get a bunch of weird ass strength leather pieces. We used a feral druid to offtank from time to time, but he was a hardcore mf'r who geared out perfectly and brought full consumables all day. Even then, it wasn't worth it. I will say that alliance guilds want an active feral tank for outdoor raid mobs. Horde can easily wipe a raid by MC capping the MT which cannot be dispelled. The only counter is bear tanks. Now, 9/10 druids will raid as restoration. The issue with restoration is that HoTs are very weak (low benefit from +Healing) and they don't stack. Furthermore, healing in Vanilla is a 100% or 0% deal. With that said, druid gear has to go somewhere, trash mobs need sleep, people need MotW, and Brez is kind of cool.

As far as PvP goes, druids were very lacking in CC, they lacked the ability to cure CC like a priest/paladin or prevent CC (other than self-polys) like a shaman, their damage sucked as feral, and their healing was weak easy to counter (purge). They did make the best flag carrier for WSG which was the pinnacle of competitive vanilla PvP though. The class was handsomely compensated by being overpowered in every other expansion.

Paladins: I would have said that prot was worthless in PvE before Feenix, but I guess it can be brought to mediocrity with enough dedication (tough to cap defense with non-set). You only needed 14 points in holy to heal well, so you always had a token Ret for BoKings. If there was ever a class that scaled with gear, it was the holy paladin. Illumination was a talent that gave 100% mana back on crits. Paladins could have only had that talent and they would have been the best PvE healer once geared. Unlike the other healers, paladins benefited tremendously from all caster stats (int, crit, +healing, and mana/5). Holy Light scaled better than any other heal in the game and flash of light made paladins the only healer that didn't even have to downrank. They had access to the best healing cloth, leather, mail, and plate. Blessings were so much better than totems which were better than the utility of any other class. That's not even mentioning auras or seals/judgments. They could also ignore the mechanics of many fights via divine shield. Oh you need an aoe tank? How about the paladin throws up righteous fury and kites snared mobs with heal aggro. Class was overpowered as fuck.

In terms of PvP, Lol. Very early on, Seal of the Crusader was broken and giving the atk/haste without weakening attacks which made ret very strong.

I don't know if this is the most broken spec in the game's history, but it's damn close.
http://www.wowprovider.com/?talent=1604500_2_80530501j5231050551031n

I mean fuck, all the good healing talents, holy shield, repentance, sanctuary, and reckoning in a single build. Good luck focusing the healer. Divine shield had no counter, and Freedom could have a near 100% up-time with talents. Paladins only weakness was that they were very susceptible to interrupts and curse of tongues. Not tons more to say, best healer in both PvE and PvP.


Shaman/Priest (my 2 favorite classes) to follow!

P.S. I'm quite good at priest :D

[Flamewraith]

My last post is/was aimed at a different era than 1.12, but I'll continue it anyways for entertainment.

Druid: In my opinion, druids were hands down the weakest class in this era. Balance had some good individual talents, but was a complementary tree, I don't think I ever saw a full on balance druid outside of the occasional guy showing up to the raid with hurricane as a joke. Feral could become semi-viable DPS, but it required an extremely dedicated player to gear up. You had to grind out marshal stuff, all sorts of reputations, get a bunch of weird ass strength leather pieces. We used a feral druid to offtank from time to time, but he was a hardcore mf'r who geared out perfectly and brought full consumables all day. Even then, it wasn't worth it. I will say that alliance guilds want an active feral tank for outdoor raid mobs. Horde can easily wipe a raid by MC capping the MT which cannot be dispelled. The only counter is bear tanks. Now, 9/10 druids will raid as restoration. The issue with restoration is that HoTs are very weak (low benefit from +Healing) and they don't stack. Furthermore, healing in Vanilla is a 100% or 0% deal. With that said, druid gear has to go somewhere, trash mobs need sleep, people need MotW, and Brez is kind of cool.

As far as PvP goes, druids were very lacking in CC, they lacked the ability to cure CC like a priest/paladin or prevent CC (other than self-polys) like a shaman, their damage sucked as feral, and their healing was weak easy to counter (purge). They did make the best flag carrier for WSG which was the pinnacle of competitive vanilla PvP though. The class was handsomely compensated by being overpowered in every other expansion.

Paladins: I would have said that prot was worthless in PvE before Feenix, but I guess it can be brought to mediocrity with enough dedication (tough to cap defense with non-set). You only needed 14 points in holy to heal well, so you always had a token Ret for BoKings. If there was ever a class that scaled with gear, it was the holy paladin. Illumination was a talent that gave 100% mana back on crits. Paladins could have only had that talent and they would have been the best PvE healer once geared. Unlike the other healers, paladins benefited tremendously from all caster stats (int, crit, +healing, and mana/5). Holy Light scaled better than any other heal in the game and flash of light made paladins the only healer that didn't even have to downrank. They had access to the best healing cloth, leather, mail, and plate. Blessings were so much better than totems which were better than the utility of any other class. That's not even mentioning auras or seals/judgments. They could also ignore the mechanics of many fights via divine shield. Oh you need an aoe tank? How about the paladin throws up righteous fury and kites snared mobs with heal aggro. Class was overpowered as fuck.

In terms of PvP, Lol. Very early on, Seal of the Crusader was broken and giving the atk/haste without weakening attacks which made ret very strong.

I don't know if this is the most broken spec in the game's history, but it's damn close.
http://www.wowprovider.com/?talent=1604500_2_80530501j5231050551031n

I mean fuck, all the good healing talents, holy shield, repentance, sanctuary, and reckoning in a single build. Good luck focusing the healer. Divine shield had no counter, and Freedom could have a near 100% up-time with talents. Paladins only weakness was that they were very susceptible to interrupts and curse of tongues. Not tons more to say, best healer in both PvE and PvP.


Shaman/Priest (my 2 favorite classes) to follow!

P.S. I'm quite good at priest :D

It makes me so very sad that wow has come from this awesome description of different classes and their utilities to the all/all game it is today. Old molten core took HOURS to clear the damn trash. If you don't destroy all of highmaul in 2 hours people will quit due to it taking too long. Boss mechanics were simple yet tough, when Onyxia's whelps came out it was a clusterfuck, now every single boss has 20+ joke mechanics, that are so laughably sad that half the time I don't even pay attention, I just spam my three abilities and get back pats for topping the dps charts.

[Flexin]

I enjoyed raiding balance on 1.12, outside of needing like 16% hit rating because your talents do absolutely nothing, they can be a relatively viable option. If I was selfishly using innervate and brought the proper consumables I never really found myself going OOM.

Would finish anywhere from 6th to 14th depending on if there was a pushback in the fight preventing them starfires, and once we hit BWL the mages and warlock in my group ended up pulling significantly ahead of the rogues.

A balance druid can heal the main tank on progression fights, faerie fire/insect swarm + a dedicated decurse bot on nefarian comes to mind. Healing touch is hands down the best healing spell in the game. Battle rez etc.

For PVP they are definitely flag capping kings, and the balance pvp build 30/0/21 absolutely shits on mages/hunters. But druids get absolutely countered by rogues with thistle tea, arms warriors, and any kind of priest (mana drain).

Travel form is great, permanent immunity to snares/polymorph - abolish poison for viper sting or pre abolish for blind. Gear oriented as shit though.

[Cfred0-]

Roll horde and join convulsion!

[billpaleq]

Playing Horde with some buddies who played blue and red 99 as well.

Look for caloric or calorie. Joining up with Convulsion to level up and raid with. Had fun with them on another private WoW vanilla server

[katrik]

This looks crazy exciting. I might check it out..

[VincentVolaju]

If you all go Horde, you're going to get pooped on.

[Origin]

If you all go Horde, you're going to get pooped on.

Your mom is gonna get pooped on.

[Swish]

Why would you go alliance tho? gay pink moustache gnomes? night elves that somersault as they shoot arrows at you?

hell no. if i ever play, it'll be something hordish. when is the server opening?

[Ac888]

Looks very promising and I am excited to try it out.

Here is some info on what they say will separate them from all the other vanilla private servers you have played on:

https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1019

With the chance for players to get Talisman of Binding Shard:
http://www.wowhead.com/item=17782/talisman-of-binding-shard

Also here is their planned timeline of releases and what will be available at launch:
http://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4

[citizen1080]

Why would you go alliance tho? gay pink moustache gnomes? night elves that somersault as they shoot arrows at you?

hell no. if i ever play, it'll be something hordish. when is the server opening?

2/27 at midnight. So you got a day to get it setup

[Flexin]

Server releases 2/28 9 am Pacific, 11 Central Noon Eastern pals. Plastered all over their forums.

[Tankdan]

Nostalrius confirmed to have more elitism than P99.

Just applied to 2 guilds, their first replies are along the lines of "your class will be very competitive, do you mind having to sit out on raids?" I think there's 25 guilds acting like they all made a top 100 retail WoW roster.

Yeah, bench me on a private server, see how that works out for you.

[billpaleq]

Nostalrius confirmed to have more elitism than P99. "your class will be very competitive, do you mind having to sit out on raids?"


Letting you know that you have selected a class that is low demand is better than letting you level to 60 to tell you that you will be sitting out the first couple of MC raids because they have 3 main tank wars or 10 rogues who have been playing with them for 5 years plus and you will need to compete against them for slots.

This is not P99 where you can take unlimited players to raids as long as they are keyed

[Flexin]

A lot of the guilds like Grizzly/MCST have been playing together for 3-4 years so those guys already come with a core of 30-35 people anyways.

I've never found a point in trying to really lock down a guild before the server has even come out. You dont know who's going to end up actually making it to 60 and when, and if the people you signed up to play with over the forums are even any good or enjoyable.

There should be a /world chat so I don't think finding groups or leveling should be any different with or without a guild.

[Swish]

Nostalrius confirmed to have more elitism than P99.

Just applied to 2 guilds, their first replies are along the lines of "your class will be very competitive, do you mind having to sit out on raids?" I think there's 25 guilds acting like they all made a top 100 retail WoW roster.

Yeah, bench me on a private server, see how that works out for you.

We could/should make a P99 guild.

[Ac888]

Semi-hardcore and casual guilds form after launch. Don't worry, like already said, its a private server... Gone are the days of high school where responsibilities were non-existent, where I had to use those 60 day time cards because I didn't have a credit card yet.

Point is many of us don't have that extra time to do the extra work, we have actual jobs and don't need a game to become that second one. I for one want this to be something to just unwind on after a full day of work. I do the exact same with P99 although the difference is when it was 99-01 I was in elementary school, had dial up, and no 3d graphics card. I had some 4MB integrated piece of crap in my Celeron 400 so D2, SC and AoE were basically it for me lol so P99 is totally new to me in the first place.

Also I would be down for a P99 guild.

[katrik]

Thinking of trying Mage. Old mage was a lot of fun. I played priest/lock in vanilla

[Pringles]

We could/should make a P99 guild.

This

[katrik]

Probably gonna be alliance!

[Deadmantis]

A day or so before launch and there are guilds that have already announced they are no longer accepting applications, or they are only have room for 1 more "druid that may be required to spec resto". Seriously, gtfo.

On the other hand, there are some guild recruitment threads that are promoting a more laid back, come as you are casual atmosphere. Have fun, insult each other, PVE, PVP, it doesn't matter. Play what you want when you want.

Then there are the full on PVP gladiator guilds that stress rankings and premades and not much else.

So you will see a bit of everything I suppose.

I was trying to get my old gang back together but they didn't sound all that interested.

I would love to get in with a P99 guild there. Looking to go Horde but would consider joining the midgets if there is beer and cake.

[Ac888]

I'm thinking of rolling Horde, was Ally on live (human warrior = boring).

[Swish]

Have fun, insult each other, PVE, PVP, it doesn't matter. Play what you want when you want.

I'll be there somewhere. The only thing I hate about this era is that the raid gear trumps the pvp gear... so those assholes will be (likely) shit at pvp but the gear will save them :/

[Pokesan]

Gonna flip the script and play alliance. Also warrior instead of mage.

Please kite me to death while laughing at me.

[Pringles]

Was horde on live, will play horde here

[citizen1080]

Will be stuck on alliance due to wife needing pretty characters. But...most likely will roll undead priest for solo pvp face melting. Though they might not really melt faces for a few patches...been too long.

Ill be rolling a war on ally, she will be priest/pal...not sure what would be best for her to choose for pve and pvp duo.

[pasi]

50/50 on checking this out. Would have liked non-1.12 builds, but I realize that's a tall order. Most of all, I don't think I could go back to an arena-less WoW. Shallow, but I pretty much need a competitive ladder to enjoy online games. I got bored on Feenix pretty quickly.

[VincentVolaju]

Why would you go alliance tho? gay pink moustache gnomes? night elves that somersault as they shoot arrows at you?

hell no. if i ever play, it'll be something hordish. when is the server opening?

For PvE Paladins much better then Shaman for progressing through content.

For PvP most people have your idea of Horde being the best PvPers which means more PvPers will go Horde which in turn means there should be more people to queue up against as Ally. Hopefully anyway, because long BG queues suck in classic.

[Swish]

Having an extra "fast" flag carry class in WSG is a good thing, and the pvp boots give a nice speed bonus.

On my EU server (Emerald Dream) we had one of the first ratios around 3.5 : 1 alliance to horde... nice for us horde folks, it was on tap :)

[Pringles]

Will be stuck on alliance due to wife needing pretty characters. But...most likely will roll undead priest for solo pvp face melting. Though they might not really melt faces for a few patches...been too long.

Ill be rolling a war on ally, she will be priest/pal...not sure what would be best for her to choose for pve and pvp duo.

Will they let you dual faction on same server? Not classic! (On live pvp server you could only have horde or alliance toons, not both)

[citizen1080]

Will they let you dual faction on same server? Not classic! (On live pvp server you could only have horde or alliance toons, not both)

Yea I remember that haha, but I don't think its enforced here.

[FoxxHound]

I play on Excalibur. Like a bad

[Breeziyo]

Gonna flip the script and play alliance. Also warrior instead of mage.

Please kite me to death while laughing at me.

<team dog> has your back with dispels and freedom, friend. ;)

[Ponden]

For PvE Paladins much better then Shaman for progressing through content.


Shaman trivialize so much through totems.


Warlocks:Like druids, even if they suck in PvE, you have to bring them for their unique CC (banish), brez (soulstone), and buff (imp).

Will of the Forsaken is 30 seconds of fear immunity every 2 minutes.



WOTF was never 30 second duration. Resto druids are fucking amazing. Warlocks are fucking gods. You don't bring them for soulstone and imp buff and banish. You bring them because they shit on damage meters while providing utility. No alliance warlock gets dominated by an undead and says, "Must be because I'm Alliance!" WOTF is nice but it isn't what you're making it out to be.

Hunters: PvE wise, they are the most desirable DPS class.

Great guilds take hunters for tranquil shot. Bad guilds take hunters for cc and dps.


If you want an actual reference on how classes were in vanilla, go to the server's forums and read the class forums.

[Ac888]

The main difference this time around is there's no subscription fee or client purchase fee to play. If those rules were enforced like on live then people would get past it by multi-boxing which did happen on retail, but now you're talking $30+ a month which I always thought was silly. Its not like P99 where there's an IP limit you can have a whole raid running off your network at home and connecting to the same server. But I fully understand the reasoning behind P99's choice for the limit so ya.

[Secrets]

Gonna be playing a warrior or warlock most likely. Warriors absolutely destroy in PvP. Loved how they're basically juggernauts.

Warlocks just in general are badass and probably can do better in all situations, so i've been considering that too.

[surron]

The main difference this time around is there's no subscription fee or client purchase fee to play. If those rules were enforced like on live then people would get past it by multi-boxing which did happen on retail, but now you're talking $30+ a month which I always thought was silly. Its not like P99 where there's an IP limit you can have a whole raid running off your network at home and connecting to the same server. But I fully understand the reasoning behind P99's choice for the limit so ya.

they just implemented a no boxing rule

http://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=142&start=20

[Deadmantis]

This is from the Nostalrius forums:

"Date & hour of the release : 28/02/2015 18:00 GMT+1,"

1800 GMT is 1 pm EST, so would that be 2 pm EST? or is the +1 something else entirely? Sorry I'm not a time zone genius here.

[Ac888]

EST is -5 so thats a 6 hour spread, EST being behind by 6 hours. I believe thats a noon launch East Coast.

[Grubbz]

Gonna be playing an alliance priest for sure. holla at you fellas in game tomorrow.

[pasi]

Shaman trivialize so much through totems.



WOTF was never 30 second duration. Resto druids are fucking amazing. Warlocks are fucking gods. You don't bring them for soulstone and imp buff and banish. You bring them because they shit on damage meters while providing utility. No alliance warlock gets dominated by an undead and says, "Must be because I'm Alliance!" WOTF is nice but it isn't what you're making it out to be.



Great guilds take hunters for tranquil shot. Bad guilds take hunters for cc and dps.


If you want an actual reference on how classes were in vanilla, go to the server's forums and read the class forums.

Yeah, WotF was originally 20 seconds which is still a long time and is effectively 30 seconds for non-shadow priests. Blacksmithing adds another 30 seconds to that. WotF is also incredibly useful for getting out of MC caps which are super imba throughout vanilla. I think Orc is under-rated, but there is a reason that over half the horde is undead.

You'll note in my post that I mentioned that those summaries were intended for BWL and MC in the appropriate era (read: not 1.12). I couldn't tell you how MC/BWL were in MC/BWL gear with Naxx Talents and Content Adjustments as we stopped running MC in AQ and stopped BWL (dem poor folks w/o trinkets) in Naxx. I could talk about AQ and Naxx in 1.12, but I do not know tons about min/maxxing MC/BWL in 1.12 as my efforts were focused elsewhere.

If you're looking at doing that content with Naxx Talent trees, you will come to different conclusions.

Anyhow, druids were bad because they scaled like shit. Innervate was a pretty good 31 point talent. However, druids lacked a talent to reduce the cast time of Healing Touch until 1.8 (Green Dragons and pals) which made their downranked +healing scale much worse than priests, paladins, or shaman. % Increase talents at the time only applied to the base value of the spell, they did not take +healing into account. HoTs (for everyone) scaled like shit and had issues with healing basically being a binary full HP or no HP game.

Hunters were incredibly strong early on when the benefit of attack was not normalized for weapon speed. Keep in mind during this era, aggro was the biggest factor limiting DPS and hunter had the best aggro drop in the game. Tank threat was basically capped at sunder spam w/ heroic strikes. This was especially true horde side where they didn't have salvation for 30% less aggro. Seriously, horde raiding guilds were (rightfully) bitching about salvation, they were willing to give up fucking windfury totem for a weakened version of a salvation totem. The protection tree doesn't get revamped from useless-beyond-15- points until BWL launch, and even then Shield Slam doesn't get it's massive aggro mod until ZG came out.

Warlocks (well, shadow bolt) scaled very well, but they were very much limited by aggro generation.

Again, to beat it into the ground some more, DPS aggro ceilings were a huge fucking deal. If you ask anyone who pushed for world firsts what the toughest encounter in MC or BWL was, they will all say Firemaw 1.0. That encounter perfectly illustrates the differences between vanilla raiding and early vanilla raiding. The winning strat was to have your healers and DPS suicide to Firemaw's AE at max range every 10% or so (obviously not all at once). You would keep 3 rezzers out of combat rezzing those max range corpses out of Firemaw's LoS. The end result was an aggro reset. Anyone who failed to do so would pull aggro and have a high chance of wiping the raid. For hunters, the fight was just business as usual.

I do agree though, the best place to learn about classes is to go to the server's class forums. My posts were a discussion of an era different than one the server will be set to. Even the 1.12 Guides for the Feenix servers will be off as there are differences between this server's 1.12 and Feenix's 1.12.

[katrik]

I remember raiding vanilla Naxx on my geared SM/ruin warlock. With that gear, shadow bolt crit for a TON! I remember one shotting rogues in BG very easily.

[Swish]

I played a shaman back in the day and want to go back to it again... but the more I think about it, the more I think shammies were nerfed by this point in the timeline... amirite? I remember 1.7 or so wrecking people with a big axe.

[Ereni]

I'd play if the people I wanted to play with went horde. Gosh, I need to make better friends.

Also, that PST lag doesn't sound too great.

Horde4life

[Flexin]

the hype is real.

[Grubbz]

2 hours and 18 mins till launch. get your hot pockets and porta potty ready.

[Swish]

Think it'll launch on time? Will it crash? :p

[Grubbz]

12 mins till launch.

will be rolling an undead mage.

[Swish]

pom pyro scumbags :p

[Oogei]

First post should have character names and faction so we all know where people went

[Tewaz]

Holy shiz, this literally is launching right now? Awesome.

[Buellen]

bah stuck at connected 8(

[citizen1080]

unable to connect

[Buellen]

can't even get to server select now 8( after being dumped to log in.

[citizen1080]

This server 100% classic...even down to the vanilla launch.

[Buellen]

so true so true

[Swish]

2500 people all trying to get in - so much hype!

[citizen1080]

Id feel better if i knew i was using the right login...

Is this the signup you are using to try and login? Or your forum account

http://grabilla.com/0521c-a4e44207-29bb-46da-adfe-832c79db3bf1.html

[Buellen]

use the account i created through their website and you receive and email from them with link to confirm your account.

[Swish]

Signup, I made a 2nd account just now to be sure I'm getting the right password in :D

You can have 2 accounts on 1 email address apparently.

[Tewaz]

Which side are you going Swish? Lets fight.

[Grubbz]

level 2 undead mage named issei, hit me up if u guys play.

server has been up for nearly 20 mins, no lag or dc's yet.

[Swish]

Which side are you going Swish? Lets fight.

Horde for sure (still not sure what to make... shaman/druid appeals), and I'll be trolling the crap out of a world channel if one exists (if there's 2500 in there I'm sure they'll disable it) :D

Still can't connect, it's not funny anymore :p

[Buellen]

can't even sign in past log in server now lol

[Pokesan]

level 2 undead warlock named issei, hit me up if u guys play.

server has been up for nearly 20 mins, no lag or dc's yet.

Look at this smug fucker who got in. Let's kick his ass!

[citizen1080]

I have yet to see server select.

[Tewaz]

I made it into server select, but I couldn't connect to the realm.

[citizen1080]

made it all the way to char creation and got disco'd. KHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNN NNNNNNNNNNNNN

[Pringles]

I made it into server select, but I couldn't connect to the realm.

About what I expected.

[Swish]

You know you're getting trolled when it says...

Success!

[citizen1080]

pop listed as high 15mins into launch..wonder if they will have to implement queues...

[Buellen]

post on Facebook page "we are aware of issue when connecting to realm we are working on the issue .

man that i straight from vanilla launch no ?

[citizen1080]

post on Facebook page "we are aware of issue when connecting to realm we are working on the issue .

man that i straight from vanilla launch no ?

naw...to be truly vanilla they should have waited at least a few more hours before making any sort of announcement.

[Swish]

I bet there's no mobs to kill anyway and just 100s of people running about.

[Lune]

I bet there's no mobs to kill anyway and just 100s of people running about.

correct

http://i.imgur.com/5vJQ8km.jpg

[citizen1080]

I dont even care if I play..just want names lol

[Buellen]

oh well guess this not happening can't even get past log in server anymore

[Secrets]

Doesn't seem to be up. :(

[citizen1080]

Why can i never be one of the lucky ones that get in while everyone else stuck waiting.

[Swish]

It's listed as a pvp server. This is good... but is it true?

I've managed to get to the realm select now and picked it out - but haven't connected to it yet before getting thrown back to the login screen.

[Grubbz]

its def up lol, im almost level 3 but you cant even do a single quest due to the sheer amount of people. the only way to level is grouping up and grinding mobs.

[Swish]

I think I'm with Bob here, I'd be content just to get a character or two made :p

[citizen1080]

Still trying...mostly shopping for new scuba gear and a concealed carry.

[Pringles]

Ya i dont expect to be able to get any quests done due to the number of people, just want to reserve my names :)

[Grubbz]

server restarting to allow more players to join, get in while you can.

[citizen1080]

Got in...saved 2 names...got booted...i think whole server down now.

[Swish]

http://www.twitch.tv/zetoxisbad

Someone streaming this crap lol

[Buellen]

Made it in

[Pringles]

My boy is in, looks smooth for him. He's tauren and able to do quests just fine.

[Swish]

Idea for a level or two if you can't kill any mobs... explore !

Still playing World of Loginscreen

[Pringles]

lol 868 people in durotar....

[Swish]

lol 868 people in durotar....

That's crazy, as soon as I've made a few characters I think I'll let the hot pocket crews "get ahead" lol

[Pringles]

Ya i think this is a bit more popular than they expected. I mean... everyone plays alliance, and there are 868 people in the *tauren* starting zone. I cant even imagine humans / night elfs / gnome areas

902 now.....

[citizen1080]

yea...loginquest for me as well

[citizen1080]

at least i got the main names I wanted

[Swish]

I wonder if they'll make a second server based on this popularity? Seems crazy not to, maybe a RP PVP server :)

[citizen1080]

Well..if its true about them having a wealthy sponsor who bought the hardware. Maybe he will pony up for a second one.

[Flexin]

They are having login server issues, but they have 3600 people on with no DC's or lag, the scripting looks fine so far pathfinding wise. Pras these fucking devs, reported a respawn bug and a GM got back to me in 3 minutes and forwarded it to the dev team.

[Doors]

Can't get past the login server.

[Grubbz]

gonna watch some anime or something till late night est / early morning, hopefully pop will die down by then.

[Doors]

at least i got the main names I wanted

I hate u

[citizen1080]

I hate u

If it makes you feel better i only got 3 before disco.

[Beovvulf]

Going hard in the paint, shoot me a message on Beovvulf (two v's)

[nilbog]

Reserved like 7 names, got to level 2, and then server restarted.

[Doors]

Can almost make it to character selection then booted. Wanted to just reserve names basically but I get the feeling most the ones I wanted are taken at this point.

[Pringles]

Server restarting - they're apparently applying a patch to fix this login issue.

[Doors]

I looked on their twitter and facebook for real time updates on their servers, are they posting that info somewhere else Pringles?

[Pringles]

That was in game - they brought server down and now its back up.

[Pringles]

use login2.nostalrius.org now - just came up

[Tewaz]

I reserved Swish. Will sell for gifs

[Tewaz]

Also, they posted on FB about them making a patch to help with connectivity. Has anyone been able to login using the Mac version?

[Pringles]

Also, they posted on FB about them making a patch to help with connectivity. Has anyone been able to login using the Mac version?

Yes, my son is on with a mac.

[Millburn]

use login2.nostalrius.org now - just came up

That login is working for me now but I can't get connected into the actual server to create a character. It just goes through connecting to handshaking and then to connected and then to success...then sits there.

[Buellen]

Was able to level my hunter to level 5 before the last server restart.

Cannot connect now oh well 8) at least i got my 2 toon names i wanted.

[Beovvulf]

bah, friend reserved my name but ive been unable to log in at all

[Beovvulf]

use login2.nostalrius.org now - just came up

thanks btw, login still fucked but at least it says 'connected'

[Pringles]

hmmm i wonder how many people are trying to hack them, contributing to this issue:
$ nmap -PN login.nostalrius.org

Starting Nmap 5.21 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2015-02-28 20:12 UTC
Nmap scan report for login.nostalrius.org (5.135.143.130)
Host is up (0.17s latency).
rDNS record for 5.135.143.130: ns2343269.ovh.net
Not shown: 993 closed ports
PORT STATE SERVICE
22/tcp open ssh
443/tcp open https
445/tcp filtered microsoft-ds
3306/tcp open mysql
8084/tcp open unknown
8099/tcp open unknown
9002/tcp open unknown

Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 15.22 seconds


$ nmap -PN login2.nostalrius.org

Starting Nmap 5.21 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2015-02-28 20:13 UTC
Nmap scan report for login2.nostalrius.org (178.33.122.86)
Host is up (0.17s latency).
rDNS record for 178.33.122.86: ns372783.ip-178-33-122.eu
Not shown: 996 filtered ports
PORT STATE SERVICE
22/tcp open ssh
3306/tcp open mysql
8010/tcp closed xmpp
8011/tcp closed unknown

Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 11.06 seconds



Not impressed by this.

[Millburn]

No idea what any of that means Pringles but I'm in! I rolled a Tauren Shaman, can't pass up the opportunity to go Windfury like back in the vanilla days. Hit me up on milburn if anybody wants to play.

[Secrets]

got some good names

http://puu.sh/ggKMS/b30b3e3417.jpg

[Tewaz]

Tha Duke going to move into that server? Would be interesting to see the Dukesmen battling Grizzly.

[Pringles]

2500 in undead noob area - holy crap

[citizen1080]

i grabbed swish..lemme know when you want me to delete it so you can take it =p

[Oogei]

So are the majority of you horde?

[Buellen]

allaince hate just absolutely hate the horde open chat 8) aka barrens chat level to many toon horde side and never want to experience that again.

[citizen1080]

I will be playing both..warrior to duo with wifes healer on ally...most my pvp toons will be horde tho I think.

You can't have horde/ally on same account. But nothing stopping you from making a second account for horde toons.


It is retarded busy right now tho...logged off...will try again tomorrow night after i get back from snowboarding...hopefully the majority of server will have moved on from noobie areas.

[Millburn]

DONE WITH PLAINSTRIDERS IT'S A GOD DAMN CHRISTMAS MIRACLE!

[Swish]

I've changed my mind about 6 times, have rolled a druid on alliance now... never played alliance on live, but ran a mean flag as a horde shaman in WSG - want to do some more of that and a good druid is hard to find :)

Sincerely,

Swish, the fag night elf.

[Pringles]

I cant believe im poopsocking noobie zone mobs.

I am Stench - undead rogue. Add meh!

[Grubbz]

why you gotta go ally swish? gtfo.....

[Swish]

why you gotta go ally swish? gtfo.....

Because I don't want to be laughed at as horn bear :(

[Pringles]

man i am the FTE master up on this noobie quests!

[Pokesan]

there's no autoloot setting?

[Pringles]

there's no autoloot setting?

shift + right click on corpse

[Grubbz]

alliance is still lame.

[Swish]

Found one of the P99 staff :p

[Oogei]

Rolling ally once my liver and kidneys are back to normal and I can handle gaming

[Oogei]

What's the pop on ally

[Colgate]

heard from someone about an hour ago that both factions had about 4000 people online

[Grubbz]

the struggle is real.......

[citizen1080]

If server maintains 8k population...the pvp will blot out the sun.

[Pringles]

People are saying the "who" tool shows all, so 4100 total online. Not sure i believe them though - who shouldnt show where alliance are etc.

[Pringles]

had to log off and take a break LOL - barely about to ding lvl 4..... the poop socking of starter zone mobs is too much.

[Buellen]

Got to level six and got to insane with all the newly area over poped. Decide to run and explore 8) at least I will get some xp.

[Buellen]

well made it as far as azshara have to log for work. have fun guys

[captnamazing]

i am definitely down for this. setting up right now

[Swish]

Came to my senses and rerolled horde, going to level a rogue as I never played one on live.

See you in Orgrimmar!

[captnamazing]

Came to my senses and rerolled horde, going to level a rogue as I never played one on live.

See you in Orgrimmar!


Swish! i saw your post on those forums, but for some reason my forum posts aren't visible yet. Glad you rolled horde, pal. I'll see you on there soon I hope.

[Pringles]

Came to my senses and rerolled horde, going to level a rogue as I never played one on live.

See you in Orgrimmar!

Name? add Stench

[Ripcord]

hi there, same name here

[katrik]

will "hopefully' have the name Katrik, gonna be gnome mage. =D

[FoxxHound]

If I play. It will be Horde, but meh.

[captnamazing]

server is just overwhelmed by the number of people

[Millburn]

There's a ton of us rolling Horde, do I smell a P99 guild in the works?

[katrik]

If on alliance.. Add Katrik =D

[username17]

I'm on Alliance. Dwarven Paladin Dumathoin.

[Doors]

Feels goog to grind out 11 levels with Nildog while getting inside details about Velious launch date.

Luv you pal.

[Beovvulf]

im ally, was rolling deep with some other p99'ers last night including nilbog. shit's classic as fuck

[katrik]

Kat's @ lvl 8.. having a blast. However, the starting quests are miserably overcamped. Seems alot better to grind the first 10 levels out. And huge lols to all these hybrids thinking they're going to dps or tank.

[Beovvulf]

doors, were you stark?

[Ac888]

Lots of people on when I got on yesterday in orc/troll starter zone.

http://i.imgur.com/7dbzAtW.jpg

[Eveel]

I cant find a place to download the client.

[stavio]

This is the client I downloaded, and used. It works just fine, but you need a torrent manager and a program like WinRaR to unzip it with.

http://logon.vanillagaming.org/VanillaGaming_1121_Pack.rar.torrent

[Manticmuse]

i never played wow, but have been searching for a good pvp mmo for a long time. is this the one? good for solo/duo/trios and raids as well? are classes balanced to the point where even if there are some stronger than others, anyone that is really skilled and geared can take on anyone regardless of class?

idk if that made any sense

[Oogei]

How's the server today

[philjackson]

Feels goog to grind out 11 levels with Nildog while getting inside details about Velious launch date.

Luv you pal.

warm body

[katrik]

I cant find a place to download the client.

There's a copy of the torrent on the config guide page.

[Swish]

How's the server today

Still busy, once you get out of the initial starter areas it becomes more tolerable.

[Buellen]

Lots of people still all over the place but I'm having fun 8)

as swish said you once you move past the starter zones you get more breathing room 8)

by the way the gold farmers are already busy lots of level 1 and 2 orc /allaince dark elf camping the chest spawns in azshara. i tried all the 4 i know and every single one had a level 1 to 2 in ghost form waiting for chest to spawn.

[Alunova]

Who needs alliance priest heals for deadmines tonight :p same name

[Pringles]

Im stuck in a rut - as undead, so many quests are over camped, im spending hours per level right now just trying to FTE stuffs. Ill check back later. Only level 7 so far and ive been on for at least 12 hours so far. Coupled with frequent disconnects / roll backs... yeah....

[baub]

welp heres the ddos

[Deadmantis]

Im stuck in a rut - as undead, so many quests are over camped, im spending hours per level right now just trying to FTE stuffs. Ill check back later. Only level 7 so far and ive been on for at least 12 hours so far. Coupled with frequent disconnects / roll backs... yeah....

Undead starting area is probably the most crowded on the horde side, followed by Durotar. I made a Tauren shaman and their area seems to be the easiest to level off of low level quests by far.

[Millburn]

Im stuck in a rut - as undead, so many quests are over camped, im spending hours per level right now just trying to FTE stuffs. Ill check back later. Only level 7 so far and ive been on for at least 12 hours so far. Coupled with frequent disconnects / roll backs... yeah....

The trick is to give up and go get flight paths. It'll be a good investment during this time where all the newbie zones are jam packed. In the end you'll get a great ROI from it.

[Buellen]

kill something log out come back rinse repeat only way to really save your progress in this situation

[Swish]

day 2: Banned from public channels ... no explanation given, not sure what I said :/ lol

People been saying "cancer", "aids" etc a lot and still chatting away happily, really must have done a number on someone.

[Millburn]

day 2: Banned from public channels ... no explanation given, not sure what I said :/ lol

People been saying "cancer", "aids" etc a lot and still chatting away happily, really must have done a number on someone.

Quit throwin out gang signs round Orgrimmar homie

[Pringles]

day 2: Banned from public channels ... no explanation given, not sure what I said :/ lol

People been saying "cancer", "aids" etc a lot and still chatting away happily, really must have done a number on someone.

There were people talking about blowjobs / sucking dick / eating pussy etc all morning in general chat, was pretty ridiculous (my kids play). Hope the same happens to them.

[Lune]

Interesting poll in case anyone hasn't seen it yet:

http://i.imgur.com/VVy8e1j.jpg

[Millburn]

Damn man I feel like Druids and Shamans are way more popular than that poll would suggest. Very interesting.

[Swish]

Feel old yet? :/

[Millburn]

I plan on living to 10,000 once they can figure out how to get me into an adamantium skeleton.

...

but yeah actually I am feeling pretty old after that poll.

[Lune]

Playing alliance hunter instead of studying for exam;

Name is Kuriak

[Breeziyo]

hit level 17 and called it for the night. managed to go for 24 hours, pass out for 4, then get right back in on it.

every quest is a competition for spawns. it's crazy. would've been much higher level if i wasn't spending most of my time waiting for things.

i'm civean on alliance. hit me up later if you feel like it

[Oogei]

I'm waiting a week or two so I don't have to put up with tons of competition

[FoxxHound]

Undead Whorelock for life son.

[citizen1080]

Human warrior to duo with wifes pally. We bailed from human zones and took the tram to dwarven area. Waaaaay better noobie area and not so many people roll shorties. Quests pretty much uncontested tonight.

[Zalaerian]

Holocaust doing it big on alliance.

[pasi]

Got a 10 paladin and a 10 undead priest. Still debating which to continue with. Tired of 1-60 alliance side, but p99 and other pals all on alliance.

[Pringles]

I hit level 10 after 12.5 hours played. FML :( Used to push to try to get to 10 in an hour on live. Never made it but it was close.

I do enjoy the classic feel but they really should have boosted spawn rates.

Dude fighting a mob tagged another mob I was after before finishing his first off. I knew he was screwed so I sat down and watched the train wreck. It made up for all the bad, I enjoyed laughing at him as he died. He knew what he did and he ate it because of it.

[Recycled Children]

<Charles Bronson> formed on alliance. Join up got a bunch of P99ers.

[Laugher]

<Charles Bronson> formed on alliance. Join up got a bunch of P99ers.

Pras

[Grubbz]

i thought p99 had a poopsocking problem, the launch for nos was some next level shit.

[Bruno]

Once you're out of the Horde newbie section it's fine. Shit was pretty serious though. Watching people gather up more than they could handle and get rocked was hilarious. The desperation to get the first level quests done was exceptional.

[Buellen]

lots of players don't understand for some reason if its just a kill x number mobs group up it doesn't matter and should make things go faster.

kill x mobs for a x amount of drops i understand wanting to solo.

[katrik]

<Charles Bronson> formed on alliance. Join up got a bunch of P99ers.

Will probably bug someone for invite. 12 Mage is guildless.

[Callon]

Just installed. Hullan Lv 5 dwarf hunter. Be running around for a bit

[Bruno]

So many alliance. I'm genuinely disappointed :(.

[Millburn]

So many alliance. I'm genuinely disappointed :(.

Fuck the status-quo, come chill on horde with Me, Swish, and Grubbz.

[Bruno]

Fuck the status-quo, come chill on horde with Me, Swish, and Grubbz.

I wouldn't play alliance if I was the only person on Horde. Already here.

[pasi]

I'm still leaning toward horde. Worked 10-12 hrs the past 7 days, so I've got tomorrow off for leveling.

[Millburn]

I'm still leaning toward horde. Worked 10-12 hrs the past 7 days, so I've got tomorrow off for leveling.

That's my exact situation except Wednesday Thursday are my glorious two days of free level time. They really can't come soon enough.

[captnamazing]

Undead zone was so fucking crowded that I just gave up over the weekend. Now i'm super busy this week but hoping to hit level 10 before the weekend. hmu in game. name: lizardrat

[Millburn]

Speaking of names, let's get a spreadsheet going.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uUR3HqZ-ID2t1xSWJaxmxOiL2CkAXk7mOrv-u0ntyCA/edit?usp=sharing

[Pokesan]

still insanely crowded, trying again on thursday

I don't like FTE for quest mobs :(

[Dillian]

cant edit spreadsheet to add my self. I am on Alliance lol. names played are Lungvin/Muian. see yah in pvp there=)

[Millburn]

cant edit spreadsheet to add my self. I am on Alliance lol. names played are Lungvin/Muian. see yah in pvp there=)

Yeah that's my bad, I had it set for anybody with link can view, not edit. It's been fixed now.

[captnamazing]

still insanely crowded, trying again on thursday

I don't like FTE for quest mobs :(

the best part about it so far is that it's no different from raiding on p99. just pieces of shit spamming target to get FTE on their level 2 quest mobs and then /spitting on each other

[Millburn]

the best part about it so far is that it's no different from raiding on p99. just pieces of shit spamming target to get FTE on their level 2 quest mobs and then /spitting on each other

You gotta come to Mulgore man, not nearly as crowded and yeah sure we have Earthshock and Moonfire assholes but everybody has been really cooperative so far.

[captnamazing]

Right on dude. I'll head out that way as soon as I have the time to get back on WoW! At least can get some xp cruising over :). omG AND start grinding that reputation for lizard mounts

[Flamewraith]

Newbie zones still unbearable? I'm willing to be patient if it means I don't have to poopsock newbie mobs.