cactus... magic or luck?

[Autis]

Friends I come here to the forum with a idea for all of you that will be interesting. Please consider your time when you want to read this and we can work together.

I talked with the Bisquit <Divinity> on the other day and we had a good conversation about going to zone: The Overthere and she said to me to maybe ask this forums of the story of cactus when I told her maybe I would check everquest.com. Maybe we can make this a poll some time if you have been or not been because I think some people do not like to go so they just walk through instead of really look at the scenes you know?

Anyways Bisquit <Divinity> and I we talked about how there is cactus in zone: The Overthere, and we agreed it was VERY WEIRD that these are cactus that are have alive. If you be careful when you look you can see that they even have EYES for vision and that they move. So we was wondering what is the story on these things? Where did the comes from? I cannot find any book on them even on amazon.com which has everything to read most of the time.

Like I said it is VERY WEIRD…. There is not even hints in the game to figure out where these alive cactus come from. I fight them a lot and they do NOT drop any books that tell a story but where would they keep a books anyways? Ok so I explored the zone and still there is no clues but there is a big brown canyon hole in the zone where sometimes a cactus will look like he falls. MY POINT: I think the story of how the cactus became alive has to do with possibly magic.

We know now that there is some magic in game like wizard and magican and other ones but the cactus does not cast a spell so he is not magic himself. BUT he must has a story still. If you look around the zone: The Overthere you can see that there are other things like cactus that do not have life such as rock and bush. Cactus is different because he slide around and wiggle a bit. The rock and bush and even some tree…. They do not. So there must be some special thing about this other plant it is almost like one of the animals (tigress or rhino, i.e.).

This comes to the cocnclusion that there is probably a VERY powerful force that we as EQ masters have not founded yet. So we can keep looking unless somebody knows of a lore story like maybe a novel. I was to suggest that everquest.com write a novel on these cactus and how they come alive, but I do not think they know what the players want. So maybe we can put the pieces together and write a novel OURSELVES on book maybe call it cactus: magic or luck?

sined Autis (enchanter)

[indiscriminate_hater]

cocaine's a hell of a drug

[planeofdreams]

We know now that there is some magic in game like wizard and magican...

Smiling now.

[Portasaurus]

Best thread of the year

[Thulack]

You must not have played much super mario i think it was 2 or 3 that had the cacti in it :P

[JackFlash]

MY POINT: I think the story of how the cactus became alive has to do with possibly magic.

Or luck?

[Aviann]

Just makes me think of this, lol... Never know.

http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/1/11332/389132-cactuar_beams.jpg

[Schwing]

Very interesting. Going to consult with the Bisquit <Divinity> about it tomorrow.

[LeorickEci]

Tunare got bored one day, and decided to have some fun. She looked around Norath and thought it would be a good idea to give cacti life, and then throw it at Innoruk.

[Skywarp]

Most of the weird creature mutant hybrids of Kunark such as Sarnaks, Scorpikis, Gnawer, Nibblers, Raveners, and Sokokar(Live Eq in Field of Scale which is the Field of Bone in the past before Jaled Dar and Ganak destroyed each other) are creations of Riles son, Atrebe, the Grandson of Venril Sathir.

I enjoyed the lore of EQ a long time ago and remembered this. Hope this helps.

http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Iksar_Lore ;)

[Remeygi]

A+

My theory: you dunnit, you miserable chanter! You are behind all this! Not levelling like other players. No. Just hanging over there in the Overthere and giving life to those creepy plants!

[Herpa Derp]

Treants.

[86753o9]

Autis Wins!

[iruinedyourday]

So good

[captnamazing]

http://i.imgur.com/O1asQSS.gif

[Doil_Boil]

Ahahaha.

What's up with goblins too?

[harnold]

Magic is a little far fetched. These Cactus are indeed possessed by luck.

[Doil_Boil]

Magic is a little far fetched. These Cactus are indeed possessed by luck.

Somewhere in the real world, some very lucky cactus is running around with eyes.

[BurgyK]

Im pretty sure its cacti, for they are many

[maskedmelon]

Im pretty sure its cacti, for they are many

Or are they? With magic it is possible that there is only one which exists as multiple instances of it self and with luck it is possible that a solitary cactus might appear more numerous to our eyes. After all, we know from other sources that if nothing else, they are very fast.

[GSZ]

Read this while on the john at work. Had one of my coworkers in the stall next to me and I was basically convulsing and making random noises trying to hold my laughter in. I finally completely lost it and bellowed out after reading "Cactus: magic or luck?" at the end.

Definitely the best thread I've ever read anywhere.

[Portasaurus]

Somewhere in the real world, some very lucky cactus is running around with eyes.

http://img.pandawhale.com/39466-lindsay-lohan-sprite-laugh-spr-bZ8Q.gif
http://img.pandawhale.com/39466-lindsay-lohan-laugh-zJUb.gif

[Portasaurus]

You know, The Picard <Starfleet> once put eyes on a warp core breach.

I feel like a cactus would be kind of old hat after using an anti-matter explosion as your canvas.

Magic, luck... or The Picard?

http://www.startrek.com/uploads/assets/articles/timescape.jpg

[Autis]

Friends I am happy when I see there is interest in this problem Thank you for all ideas I think we have many theores of what is could be the cause of cactus. We can have a vote in game onto what we believe the true story later but for now I think there are top theories that we agree:

1. MAGIC: Many ppl of u say there is magic in everquest and I think this is my vote as well. Lerocki and skwarp both say that GOD is at play and this is include in magic I think. I do not mean to offend if you are believe in GOD. Anyways you can tell me if u think different but there is probably magic afoot. I do not think that cactus Is like sarnak or “nibbler” as those are make believe name but a cactus is in real life too. Ok

2. DRUGS: one comment guy that it could be drugs but I do not see drugs in the game but maybe for shaman potions… but this make me think more about the problem. It is not the cocane as u say, but maybe a shaman could give cactus drugs and he come alive. But why cactus? Why not statue or maybe a strong thing I like mountain to life? Also I do not see how if u putting drugs on cactus it will come alife so I must think that this is also truely falling under MAGIC.

3. THE PICARD: I do not know much of what the picard is but the theory sounds very much like scientific to me so I will trust u as expert. I will think about legend from game I have no read about yet. “Wrap core breach” as you say could very be a possibility as I mention in earlier post that there is a BIG HOLE in the zone which could be like this core breach. WE will need ppl to investigate more with scientists to see if cactus COME FROM this The Picard instead of actually fall INTO it!!! Good idea i didn’t not think of this one so thank you sir

4. LUCK: THE FINAL POSSIBILITY. we must all consider that cactus life could just be prickly luck. If u think about it they do not have purpose but do any of us??? but I will not be philisoper on this matter as we are trying to come up with true story not mindgames. OK so it could be luck which the cactus comes from in which case maybe exactly like evolution he just HAPPEN to be at the right time when lighting strike his brother or maybe even cousin. This could have him EVOLVE into life. I have no clues on this 1 but we do not know yet

I thank u again for ideas I think we are getting to places so we can think og these ideas and see if there is clues that follow them. SO FAR I notice that cactus drop lots of sap (drugs????) and sometimes a pearl necklace (the picard??) so there is clues for some of the idea. My strong onion is STILL That there is magic but maybe luck or the picard is behind the scenes of magic in everquest.

sined Autis (enchanter)

[August]

Honestly my money is on The Picard at this point. It makes the most sense there IS a giant hole in the zone.

[Optimo]

I just joined P99 a couple months ago, trolling these forums often but never posting anything.....until now.

I have nothing to add, just wanted to comment in a thread about cactus magic luck in the event that it becomes the next "No DRG for party, camp spot site with 30 dmg, but is it for 20 like 30 dmg when you no hit be it for dd, for 30 dmg instead? or half is 10 for 20 dmg?"

[captnamazing]

Have any considered... some cacti have potent hallucinogenic effects. Have u ever thought that maybe when a couple of the cactsuses fell into the hole AKA picard effect, they found themselves starving... maybe they had 2 eat themselves.
http://i.imgur.com/P0yE3pX.jpg
so ... yes think about it 2 cactus one eats the other. not only is he suddenly aware of his suffering at having killed his mate but he's also tripping balls on the potent psychedelic WHILE experiencing the Picard Effect
http://i.imgur.com/JLcWjdO.gif
that's how most new sentient beings come to life
cannibalism + hallucinations
http://i.imgur.com/Hx84xpi.gif

[Formshifter]

god damn that was a fine read.

Like I said it is VERY WEIRD…. There is not even hints in the game to figure out where these alive cactus come from. I fight them a lot and they do NOT drop any books that tell a story but where would they keep a books anyways? Ok so I explored the zone and still there is no clues but there is a big brown canyon hole in the zone where sometimes a cactus will look like he falls. MY POINT: I think the story of how the cactus became alive has to do with possibly magic.

http://new1.fjcdn.com/thumbnails/comments/There+were+people+in+my+living+room+visiting+while +i+_a3a082885b020e97f875821fe96dd864.jpg

[Paleman]

maybe its charm, or taming. Maybe druids and shaman tamed dead cactus's, turned them alive and then released them. Maybe there is a secret door in the brown canyon hole where these druid/shaman npc's are churning out live cactus's

[Paleman]

my strong onion is based on lack of showering, for what its worth.

[Optimo]

OK so it could be luck which the cactus comes from in which case maybe exactly like evolution he just HAPPEN to be at the right time when lighting strike his brother or maybe even cousin.

I missed the part of evolution where it's lucky to have a cousin that got struck by lightning. Then again, I was never a very good student.

[Bodybagger]

maybe its charm, or taming. Maybe druids and shaman tamed dead cactus's, turned them alive and then released them. Maybe there is a secret door in the brown canyon hole where these druid/shaman npc's are churning out live cactus's

The legends of Sarnak perfecting Cactomancy cannot be true! We face dark times indeed if these rumors prove reality :eek:

[Portasaurus]

churning out live cactus's

You know what's great? As soon as google indexes this thread, it will become the world's #1 *AND ONLY* source for "churning out live cactus's" information. I love breaking new cyber soil!

p99: stretching the boundaries of the internet every goddamned day.

http://i.imgur.com/vM4O8ix.jpg

[Pringles]

i think when one is in the desert long enough, and exposed to the sun without water for hours on end while grinding exp, the cacti end up becoming more and more life-like.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/fb/4c/b2/fb4cb2b2f775129d59222ca545cf0c30.jpg

[Portasaurus]

Good news!!

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#safe=off&q=%22churning+out+live+cactus%27s%22

http://i.imgur.com/X9DPqEn.jpg

https://engineerofknowledge.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/number-1.jpg

[Burrito]

Ahahaha.

What's up with goblins too?

They were made retarded by the curse of Rathe. At least they got sick rhyming skills.

[myriverse]

Good news!!

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#safe=off&q=%22churning+out+live+cactus%27s%22

http://i.imgur.com/X9DPqEn.jpg

https://engineerofknowledge.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/number-1.jpg
Oh no. I hope the servers can handle the load as well as that Fappening thing last year.

[August]

Also shows up as the top result for 'magic cactus luck' 'cactus luck magic' and 'magic luck cactus'.

[maskedmelon]

I missed the part of evolution where it's lucky to have a cousin that got struck by lightning. Then again, I was never a very good student.

Well both of you would have to have been lifeless amino acids at the time to get lucky. Evolution is discriminatory like that.

[Paleman]

i think the cactus has been summoned and brought to life for a purpose. EQ tequila

[maskedmelon]

Or tetra elementals D:

[Paleman]

cactus's are made alive to make tequila elementals.

/thread

[azeth]

If you look around the zone: The Overthere you can see that there are other things like cactus that do not have life such as rock and bush. Cactus is different because he slide around and wiggle a bit. The rock and bush and even some tree…. They do not.

[Nimmanu]

I'm pretty sure that this was a nod to other games.

There are many "easter eggs" in the game (although this one's not well hidden) that are "hat's off" to other games, to movies (I forget what it is now, but Ahnold [swartzenegger] got in the game somehow, for example).

That being said, I think it would be tremendous fun to come up with our own "lore" for them. I'm a fanfic writer at heart. :D

[myriverse]

They're just giant worms in suits.

[maskedmelon]

They're just giant worms in suits.

Lucky worms? Or Magical worms?

[BurgyK]

Fact: these cacti come from a ever lasting battle between a halfling druid and troll shaman deep in that hole where one relentlessly farms cacti while the other pours drugs on the cacti while the halfling sleeps to make them have eyes and run away

[myriverse]

Lucky worms? Or Magical worms?
Lucky cuz they haz suits.

[Autis]

ok guys I like that luck is consider possibile but pls do not focus on the luck of the cactus there is likely other story. And if luck is truth then we CANNOT write ourselves lore novel of cactus nobody will be interest. Ok friends pls what is clues to maybe other ideas (magic).

sined Autis (enchanter)

[Autis]

Fact: these cacti come from a ever lasting battle between a halfling druid and troll shaman deep in that hole where one relentlessly farms cacti while the other pours drugs on the cacti while the halfling sleeps to make them have eyes and run away

friend butgyk i see this you is present this as FACT but this is just theory like i post before.... but i do like that it makes a mix of other cactus theory... like a cake of good ideas.

friend but remember we need to remember is not fact since we still need CLUES to show if truth (fact).

sined Autis (enchanter)

[myriverse]

All clues point to luck. They are unremarkable things.

And those plants in the swamp, as well.

[Sorth56]

It's obvious.

2 gnomes in a cactus suit.

[Paleman]

mexican jumping cactus

[BurgyK]

It's obvious.

2 gnomes in a cactus suit.

I want to believe

[Autis]

lol u would need to many gnomepairs for the many cactus but the idea make me smile

[Formshifter]

tequila elementals.



that sounds like a dangerously fun idea.

[maskedmelon]

I think perhaps the most persuasive evidence in support of BurgyK's Half-Hole-Troll Hypothesis of Animated Cactus Origination (BHHTH of ACO) is the indisputable fact that there is evidence of none of this above ground. The activities must therefore occur below ground. Autis observation that Cactus regularly demonstrates an affinity for the subject hole further substantiates this conjecture.

Other common knowledge supporting BHHT of ACO:

-both halflings and trolls share a fondness of green things
-halflings like to sleep
-shaman play an integral role in the manufacture & distribution of illicit substances in the Norrathian underground.
-both halflings and trolls are under-represented in the Overthere based on their representative percentages of the Norrathian population.
-similar to point 1 above, Druids and shaman both share an affinity for plants...

I agree more research is needed, but the evidence thus far is compelling.

[maskedmelon]

mexican jumping cactus

This is actually a good comparison to draw. Mexican Jumping Beans are animated by larva inside the. (Which hatch and eventually I merge as disgusting little bugs if you keep them too long. I inclement lost one in its container only to find it years later with a dedicated corpse inside :/ )

Perhaps the cactus are infested with Fire Beetle larvae? Do we have any sightings of Fire Beetles in the area?

[Paleman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WvJ8aZBIHw


I found what seems to be a magician casting the so called summon cactus spell.


anyone care to confirm?

[Gooch]

http://i.imgur.com/fixD8zR.gif

[Sorth56]

While all you arm chair cactologists discuss the various possible explanations for these nefarious wasteland wandering bastards, I was out doing real research. IN THE FIELD. After numerous attempts to prove the "Two Gnomes One Cactus" theory I finally gave in to despair and consulted an expert and got down to the TRUTH.

Sit back, forumquesters. What i'm about to reveal to you will rock you to your core and forever change your perception of some of your fellow Norrathians. You may need therapy, and will most certainly need to cry... no, WEEP, in a corner after you view the following.

http://s24.postimg.org/bwhod15tx/research.jpg

Time to form a hunting party and take this battle to the source. WAR ON AKANNON!

[BurgyK]

The 2G1C theory is good but The gnome supply needed is simply not there. We need more research into BHHTH OF ACO

[Paleman]

those sheisty gnomes

[Portasaurus]

cactologists

:D

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61iagwlWZnL.jpg

Now I'm thinking these cool lookin guys might be involved, too.

[Sorth56]

Gnomes and bards... where do Bards love to swarm kite?

THE OVERTHERE.

Conspiracy? Starting to look like facts to me...

[Portasaurus]

Also, expanding upon the gnome-grown theory... gnomes tinker. Maybe these are some sort of mechanical gnome cactus toys that got loose and learned to self-replicate... They only seem to fight you if you fight them first, which would go along with the self-defense only nature of ethical robotics.

Has anyone gotten close enough to one of these creatures to hear if there are any clock/gear noises coming from them? If you hear ticking that's pretty much case closed.

Add it to the list!

[Sorth56]

Also, expanding upon the gnome-grown theory... gnomes tinker. Maybe these are some sort of mechanical gnome cactus toys that got loose and learned to self-replicate... They only seem to fight you if you fight them first, which would go along with the self-defense only nature of ethical robotics.

Has anyone gotten close enough to one of these creatures to hear if there are any clock/gear noises coming from them? If you hear ticking that's pretty much case closed.

Add it to the list!

...
Gnomeborgs

[Portasaurus]

Then again, luck is a pretty solid hypothesis and there are quite a few artifacts out there that back this up...

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51eICxQIEzL._SY344_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

http://a3.mzstatic.com/us/r30/Purple4/v4/1a/67/b9/1a67b9a3-ea50-1f26-5bc8-aac9959c2f46/screen480x480.jpeg

https://silverwatermist.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/march-cactus.jpg

[myriverse]

:D

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61iagwlWZnL.jpg

Now I'm thinking these cool lookin guys might be involved, too.
Cactus juice drinkers. Confirmed.

[myriverse]

Then again, luck is a pretty solid hypothesis and there are quite a few artifacts out there that back this up...

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51eICxQIEzL._SY344_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

http://a3.mzstatic.com/us/r30/Purple4/v4/1a/67/b9/1a67b9a3-ea50-1f26-5bc8-aac9959c2f46/screen480x480.jpeg

https://silverwatermist.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/march-cactus.jpg
I see lots of gnomes in those pictures.

[maskedmelon]

I fear the situation is immeasurably more dire than I or even the superior erudition of BurgyK's intellect might have first posited. It is with nothing short of dismay that I bring to you what I believe to be the hidden source of ACO.

Time is precious, but I must take a moment to acknowledge the work that paved the path to this damning revelation.

Autis, you've my most profound gratitude for the question crafted in the formidable womb of your keen intellect from the seed of a set of astute observations and speculative inquiry. Without your query, we'd find no warning.

Skywarp, I thank you for your devotion to lore, the infallible memory and honed skepticism that allowed you to recall and discriminate between relevant and irrelevant information. Your part in this is no small one.

Now, the cactus. The riddle is solved in a simple anagram. Let us not forget the masters of this forgotten land, their masters before them, their masters masters and the master of it all: The Faceless, a Cazic Thull.

Cazic Thull



Cactuz Hill


At first I thought I myself mad to give any shred of credence whatsoever to such a ridiculous and imperfect association. Dismissing the thought in a forced chuckle, strangled with unease, I moved on to other thoughts.

Curiosity has ever been my better though and it was not long before my mind returned to the dubious coincidence. It was not until I had hazarded to study the anagram in original old Iksar that the horrifying reality of what was to come was revealed in all it's ghastly splendor:

hiss HISS HISS hiss, hiss HISS HISS hiss
hiss HISS HISS hiss, hiss HISS HISS hiss

Indeed the anagram is more ominous in its tongue of origin and the implications more calamitous than I could have fathomed upon my first chance encounter with it.


The light grows weak and I fear my presence has not gone unnoticed. I

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

sticky this thread plz

[indiscriminate_hater]

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/4ajBNvtZ_vE/maxresdefault.jpg

definitely luck

[Portasaurus]

New theory: Half Elves (http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=183999) wearing cactus costumes!!

[maskedmelon]

New theory: Half Elves (http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=183999) wearing cactus costumes!!

Or is it cactus wearing Half Elf costumes?!

Only the meat will tell, I suppose....

[Portasaurus]

WTB Cactus Meat

[Budder]

Threads like this make me happy Al Gore invented the world wide interwebs!

[kaev]

New theory: Half Elves (http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=183999) wearing cactus costumes!!

You have broken the first rule of Cactus Club, Dial A Port has been notified...

[Herpa Derp]

They're god damn desert treants.

[Clark]

It's obvious.

2 gnomes in a cactus suit.

:)

[Clark]

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/4ajBNvtZ_vE/maxresdefault.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Lo46lze.png

[maskedmelon]

http://i.imgur.com/Lo46lze.png

Interesting..... We shall see if this assertion holds water.

Where is Norrath in that image?

[Vexr]

GUYS HERE'S SOME GOOD INFOZ I FOUND!

http://ultimatecactus.altervista.org/

[Paleman]

GUYS HERE'S SOME GOOD INFOZ I FOUND!

http://ultimatecactus.altervista.org/

lol

[maskedmelon]

GUYS HERE'S SOME GOOD INFOZ I FOUND!

http://ultimatecactus.altervista.org/

13.99/10

Bravo!

Well done!

I am entertained ^^

Next we need a Cactus Wiki that we can consolidate the info form this thread and that site and our experiences in... :D

[Portasaurus]

GUYS HERE'S SOME GOOD INFOZ I FOUND!

http://ultimatecactus.altervista.org/

Wow yes fuck yes!!!!!!!!!!!

[Llodd]

Hilarious! Though it trailed off a little in hilarity towards the end.

[86753o9]

Have you considered the Pilkington hypothesis?

http://youtu.be/BLr1IzKTuPs

[Smilkers]

this thread is good stuff

[Brocode]

GUYS HERE'S SOME GOOD INFOZ I FOUND!

http://ultimatecactus.altervista.org/

AUHuahUHAUHAUAHUAHUAHAUh i am at work had to hold my smile, this is awesome! A+

[Honest]

There is an EQ lore app you can download in google playstore

[captnamazing]

I suddenly became clinically depressed when I realized GG isn't making nopales. WTB custom content patch.

[Madbad]

PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW!

[webrunner5]

cocaine's a hell of a drug

Lol, best reply in the thread. :D

[Madbad]

http://i.imgur.com/Gp7PB7G.jpg

[Issar]

Don't try and understand the cacti's existence. That's impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth. There is no cactus.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

http://i.imgur.com/Gp7PB7G.jpg

First of all, no one "owns" a spawn. Second of all, granted this individual clearly has FTE, but is not actually fighting the mob, and that is against the rules.

And isn't that a bard? Typical.

[Madbad]

actor, bard same dif

[scythic]

These Cactii are not what they seem. Take a closer look, do they not resemble the human form? Have we ever seen a baby cactus? No. They are always fully grown.

I do believe that they are not sentient magical cactii, or travellers from a distant universe, but travellers from a distant time.

They are us. We are them. We will one day evolve into sentient cactus-like beings.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Point taken. I dare anyone to give me a ss of a "young cactus." They seem to appear full grown. At least to my mind, that suggests extraterrestrial origin. Name me another species that appears on the earth full grown. Answer? None. None other species.

That seems to rule out luck, and tilt the meter towrd some kind of space alien magic

[myriverse]

Most things on Norrath have no young.

[myriverse]

Remember folks, Pravda means "truth." So it must be...

http://english.pravda.ru/health/20-12-2005/9418-mutation-0/