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Safon
02-10-2015, 07:28 PM
Was thinking of picking it up online somewhere, but if all it really had was race stats etc it would be a waste of money since we have access to the wiki.

Anyone have this guide

Danyelle
02-10-2015, 07:37 PM
The Prima's guides?

Meh a bit, and some little stories. It's still neat to have though, especially for nostalgia.

I picked up the Kunark and Luclin ones both for a combined $8 off Ebay maybe a year ago.

Swish
02-10-2015, 08:08 PM
You could probably find a PDF somewhere... if you know where to look

Tongpow
02-10-2015, 08:09 PM
the manual had a decent bit of it like 20pages of this stuff

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Skittlez
02-11-2015, 10:14 AM
Any info in those that would still be useful in p99?

Man0warr
02-11-2015, 10:43 AM
The Prima guide for EQ was outdated even as EQ went live (they write them months in advance).

Most of the info was false or just downright bad.

Skittlez
02-11-2015, 10:58 AM
The Prima guide for EQ was outdated even as EQ went live (they write them months in advance).

Most of the info was false or just downright bad.

What a sham lol

Man0warr
02-11-2015, 11:27 AM
Yeah Prima guides for MMOs are not a good idea.

Paleman
02-11-2015, 11:39 AM
it would be badass if someone made pdfs of those, just sayin.

myxomatosii
02-11-2015, 01:35 PM
The favorite part of the book I had (and still have) was the little blurbs about a gnome sneaking through an ogre city, or an erudite getting lost in the woods and barely escaping the sacrifice-seeking necromancers. If there is any interest I'll take photos of a bunch of them and upload them.

Swish
02-11-2015, 02:39 PM
I absolutely own the original book, and just need an online reference (http://theisozone.com/downloads/pc/other/everquest--the-ruins-of-kunark-official-strategy-guide-pc/) <3

citizen1080
02-11-2015, 02:50 PM
If you give me a virus swish i will hate your face forever

Deadlyfury
02-11-2015, 04:17 PM
I absolutely own the original book, and just need an online reference (http://theisozone.com/downloads/pc/other/everquest--the-ruins-of-kunark-official-strategy-guide-pc/) <3
You sir are a fucking magician, great pras in your favor!

Now to settle down with a good book :P


I know it's all misinformation but it's awesome to read to see what they got wrong and how they perceive the game

Deadlyfury
02-11-2015, 04:23 PM
I absolutely own the original book, and just need an online reference (http://theisozone.com/downloads/pc/other/everquest--the-ruins-of-kunark-official-strategy-guide-pc/) <3
You sir are a fucking magician, great pras in your favor!

Now to settle down with a good book :P


I know it's all misinformation but it's awesome to read to see what they got wrong and how they perceive the game

sox7d
02-11-2015, 04:31 PM
Merchants won't sell to erudites, guards will attack them or some jim crowe bullshit.

Dexterity makes you attack faster


-Player's guide

Whirled
02-11-2015, 04:35 PM
well holy turds in a hand basket; I used have that book too. Wow, yea there was some problems like it said Rangers got Intimidate (instill doubt, w/e) & others I dont remember atm cuz it just didnt matter really....

Voland
02-11-2015, 04:41 PM
Prima guides are usually sold, as a 3-pack: Spell Guide, New players handbook and something else...

Handbook is a fun read occasionally, has a bit of race-specific lore.
For more lore I recommend Maps of Myrist - big book, can grab it cheap on Amazon.

Prima spell book is extremely useful, I've been using it for many years!
It is actually closer to p99 than to Live now, since it was released around PoP. So, all the spell levels are correct, just need to ignore few post-classic spells.

Safon
02-11-2015, 04:49 PM
The favorite part of the book I had (and still have) was the little blurbs about a gnome sneaking through an ogre city, or an erudite getting lost in the woods and barely escaping the sacrifice-seeking necromancers. If there is any interest I'll take photos of a bunch of them and upload them.

Omfg please do, all of these blurbs, any lore, I will pay you in game pp if you upload every story and bit of lore + you'd be my hero

captnamazing
02-11-2015, 05:21 PM
I forget how to access it, but there's literally dozens of lore stories accessible in game. Pras EQ

Whirled
02-11-2015, 05:25 PM
http://wiki.project1999.com/Lore_of_Norrath

there was a Journal and some other character quest list, i think?

Safon
02-11-2015, 05:33 PM
http://wiki.project1999.com/Lore_of_Norrath

there was a Journal and some other character quest list, i think?

I absolutely love your avatar pic lol, I hope you made it yourself

GnashingOfTeeth
02-11-2015, 09:48 PM
Prima was written by folks that never played the game, and was horrid.

Jfertal
02-12-2015, 01:47 AM
I absolutely own the original book, and just need an online reference (http://theisozone.com/downloads/pc/other/everquest--the-ruins-of-kunark-official-strategy-guide-pc/) <3

made for some great reading sir, thanks!!!!!!!!

Whirled
02-12-2015, 09:45 AM
I absolutely love your avatar pic lol, I hope you made it yourself

Hey thanks, but negative, I clicked and it was there. I found it on a google search I think; iirc /shrug
Computer stuff I try to keep basic.

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PVP Cleric
02-12-2015, 09:57 AM
The Prima guide for EQ was outdated even as EQ went live (they write them months in advance).

Most of the info was false or just downright bad.

Nah, this is wrong. The info in that book was 95% as good as you could obtain at the time from anywhere else. It was basically a book version of the p1999 wiki before we had 16 years to refine our knowledge of what is really going on in the game... which was awesome since most people weren't alt-tabbing to castersrealm and whatnot while logged in.

Spell data was available in the books for spells up to level 24 and pretty spot on with the number values and everything. Class descriptions were pretty accurate. There were worthwhile tips about things like fear kiting, healing, tanking, spell use, skills. There was ok info about tradeskills. Plus they were fun as fuck to read on the shitter because none of us had laptops to play EQ on back then so we could shit while still playing.

The books also had a lot of info that was very important to someone starting their first MMO ever besides general info to help pick a class and stuff. Term definitions like LFG, LFM, and whatnot. Etiquette tips, all kinds of stuff.

uygi
02-12-2015, 06:29 PM
I forget how to access it, but there's literally dozens of lore stories accessible in game. Pras EQ

Thinly veiled RMT scheme.

I got the Prima guide, it sucked. It had huge lists of item stats, but the items were stuff like cloth armor, fine steel plate (the original storebought stuff), fine steel weapons etc. It DID have good spell lists, and the skill lisys were mostly correct but you dont need those nearly so much. I played in beta and remember lots of wacky things, but none of it made the majority of the Prima guide make sense.

The real use was you didn't have to print out the spell lists and even if you did, your mom wouldn't throw away a book whereas she'd assume anything printed out that was a school assignment was trash.

LizardNecro
02-12-2015, 07:24 PM
Wow, blast from the past. I wrote several of the chapters of that book. Absor was also an author, and he eventually became community manager, replacing the much reviled Abashi.

I made up all the lore I wrote, straight from the top of my head. I wrote it and expected it would get corrected by the EQ lore team with feedback, but nope! It went straight through.

Fun times, thanks for linking the PDF.

polishanarchy
02-12-2015, 11:00 PM
Ah man, I still have my Kunark prima guidebook from when I was like 8. It's super worn out and both covers have fallen off. I love the little stories in it, though they hardly count as lore, and some are pretty poorly written. But hey, nostalgia is nostalgia.

Anyway, I read it for the stories and the class/race/deity descriptions, and the old maps. There isn't really a purpose to a lot of the lists in the book but they can be fun to glance at when you don't actually want to learn anything useful...

Also, my avatar is an image scanned from that book that I colored in photoshop.