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The primary reason this server has failed to flourish is because spawns can stay at the same time slot for months at the time, nurturing the living fuck out of zergs which in turn make noone want to create other guilds.
proof ? Do I have to list all the failed non zerg guilds, who gave up and just joined zergs in the end ?
You call it us not wanting to play because we are losing. We call it not wanting to deal with the shit spawn system you for some reason can't fix.
Knowing that next time you engage the zerg will only be larger isn't as attractive as you might imagine.
not trying to throw any jabs, just calling it like I see it.
3+ years server, every veteran from every guild has cited spawns being locked in place for months at the time as being the most detrimental factor in red's existence.
You keep saying you know, and you'll fix it ... and the best solution you were able to throw out is something Rogean has to trigger ? the guy that you yourselves often joke about how impossible it is to get in touch with him ?
Servers on live reset weekly...Fix the problem already. it's classic.
Kimm Bare|y
02-04-2015, 03:21 PM
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Sirken
02-04-2015, 03:23 PM
words
whoa pal, you call out the staff every week :p
Guido
02-04-2015, 03:24 PM
The primary reason this server has failed to flourish is because spawns can stay at the same time slot for months at the time, nurturing the living fuck out of zergs which in turn make noone want to create other guilds.
proof ? Do I have to list all the failed non zerg guilds, who gave up and just joined zergs in the end ?
You call it us not wanting to play because we are losing. We call it not wanting to deal with the shit spawn system you for some reason can't fix.
Knowing that next time you engage the zerg will only be larger isn't as attractive as you might imagine.
not trying to throw any jabs, just calling it like I see it.
3+ years server, every veteran from every guild has cited spawns being locked in place for months at the time as being the most detrimental factor in red's existence.
You keep saying you know, and you'll fix it ... and the best solution you were able to throw out is something Rogean has to trigger ? the guy that you yourselves often joke about how impossible it is to get in touch with him ?
Servers on live reset weekly...Fix the problem already. it's classic.
couldnt have said it better myself.
sirken please read this and understand. for the sake of our pvp server. thanks.
MavstabYoudead
02-04-2015, 03:24 PM
Velious may help this with so much content existing that multiple guilds can take raid mobs, and then PVP randomly over specific things for fun - while still progressing.
Here you have to take on Holo straight up to progress, and that won't happen - we dropped Hosh in like 10 seconds, this guild will probably clear NTOV day 1.
doubtful only a few of you have ever stepped foot in it.
gobletsmashing
02-04-2015, 03:28 PM
Velious may help this with so much content existing that multiple guilds can take raid mobs, and then PVP randomly over specific things for fun - while still progressing.
Here you have to take on Holo straight up to progress, and that won't happen - we dropped Hosh in like 10 seconds, this guild will probably clear NTOV day 1.
That wont happen - see my sig. They have enough people to farm every mob in the game.
Akalakamelee
02-04-2015, 03:35 PM
The people that want to play EQ and win will all gravitate to the same guild
Sounds like care bear to me. I would prefer many guilds that contest then just 2 or 3. It's possible, it would not be hard for smaller guilds to get together and get stuff done, just to kill each other a few hours later. Zergs are about as care bear as "anti-pk" guilds on rallos.
Tassador
02-04-2015, 08:01 PM
Bump!
Drakaris
02-04-2015, 08:16 PM
The primary reason this server has failed to flourish is because spawns can stay at the same time slot for months at the time, nurturing the living fuck out of zergs which in turn make noone want to create other guilds.
proof ? Do I have to list all the failed non zerg guilds, who gave up and just joined zergs in the end ?
You call it us not wanting to play because we are losing. We call it not wanting to deal with the shit spawn system you for some reason can't fix.
Knowing that next time you engage the zerg will only be larger isn't as attractive as you might imagine.
not trying to throw any jabs, just calling it like I see it.
3+ years server, every veteran from every guild has cited spawns being locked in place for months at the time as being the most detrimental factor in red's existence.
You keep saying you know, and you'll fix it ... and the best solution you were able to throw out is something Rogean has to trigger ? the guy that you yourselves often joke about how impossible it is to get in touch with him ?
Servers on live reset weekly...Fix the problem already. it's classic.
couldnt have said it better myself.
sirken please read this and understand. for the sake of our pvp server. thanks.
Azrael swinging off each others nuts... I get it Andith, you want to RMT an AON off lite and variance can make it possible...
But seriously... stop making variance threads... having a large number of players hit a raid target is a sign that there are ALOT of players that like to raid and get a chance to do so...
You guys should stop SPAMMING server chat with these threads and should seriously be forum banned for spamming this unpopular idea.
Gooch
02-04-2015, 08:21 PM
I'm not sure variance will help if a guild is hell bent on controlling content. Once a guild hits zerg numbers there are pretty easy bottle necks to progression that can be controlled. I'm pretty sure a few people on r99 know exactly what mobs and how to do it. Maybe variance and limits on guild size, but I don't think variance alone won't solve it. I always thought guild size should be limited, especially on PvP servers.
It's strangely coincidental that this Very Important Server Fix never cropped up until your guild lost its monopoly on raid content.
I don't love the zerg-to-win philosophy, either, but it's admittedly still better than the alternative of you guys being on top for the majority of players here. Certainly for casual players (and yeah there are some casual players here without footlong neckbeards).
I'll explain:
R99 w/ Holocaust on top = players who don't have the time or inclination to send in a detailed resume to the elite/hardcore raid guild actually have a chance of doing shit and competing in pvp.
R99 w/ Azrael on top = the same players get reamed for shits and giggles by your raid force of BIS VP-geared players with 200 days /played. Being able to even set foot in Seb or KC is out of the question. Server sucks for us. No thrive and no competition.
JackFlash
02-04-2015, 08:45 PM
Weekly repops or simulated patches do not = variance.
Steel Warrior
02-04-2015, 08:50 PM
The primary reason this server has failed to flourish is because spawns can stay at the same time slot for months at the time, nurturing the living fuck out of zergs which in turn make noone want to create other guilds.
proof ? Do I have to list all the failed non zerg guilds, who gave up and just joined zergs in the end ?
You call it us not wanting to play because we are losing. We call it not wanting to deal with the shit spawn system you for some reason can't fix.
Knowing that next time you engage the zerg will only be larger isn't as attractive as you might imagine.
not trying to throw any jabs, just calling it like I see it.
3+ years server, every veteran from every guild has cited spawns being locked in place for months at the time as being the most detrimental factor in red's existence.
You keep saying you know, and you'll fix it ... and the best solution you were able to throw out is something Rogean has to trigger ? the guy that you yourselves often joke about how impossible it is to get in touch with him ?
Servers on live reset weekly...Fix the problem already. it's classic.
You know the timers. Recruit and contest.
Steel Warrior
02-04-2015, 08:55 PM
There are probably 3-5 decent players in holocaust, the rest are fodder/warm bodies/croutons. Whateveryou want to call it.
The same ratio in Nihilum.
You add variance because 90-95% of the guild are terrible and uncommitted outside of a single day of raiding. They won't log in for batphones, 4am pops, or competitive pvp that isn't onesided.
Then you have offshoots of 15-20 player guilds that can now compete on their own for at least a minority of mobs throughout the week, who cause the foundation in the zerg to finally rupture until there are many smaller sized guilds doing their own thing and competing for newly spawned raid targets. The people who play a lot every week are the ones who get the most benefit, and that is generally not the players in a zerg guild. Players in a zerg guild log in for 1 day and then log off for 6.
Or... we can go for year #4 of the lead GM telling us if we want to compete we should recruit more
I have no idea who you are, but you obviously have no idea what the current raid scene is.
Raid mobs are currently spread out over four days and have been for weeks. You're living in the past that ceased to exist almost a year ago now. Get a clue before you post again.
Lasher
02-04-2015, 09:05 PM
Azrael needs to change their ways. They dont recruit and they cant keep their players. Now they want the game mechanics changed to fit their play style.
Arael has the numbers, its been proven 2 weeks ago at CT. If they address why people dont want to join or stay in their guild they can compete head on. Rather than request 72hour variance so they can snake a mob with out pvp.
Lasher
02-04-2015, 09:09 PM
I dont like variance becasue i cant be commited 24/7.
I wish every mob would spawn 45 mins after i get off work because that fits my play style. I can work, eq, then go out with the few friends i have
noone said anything about variance.
just pointing out to staff that the server has never been able to keep guilds around b/c
things stay locked for months at time, unlike in classic where patches reset the server weekly.
in addition to that, a quick reminder that their "solutions" have sucked.
RIP RD, heresy, force , ect ect ect
all the holo leaders were in failed guilds... magically they have a hit when Nihilum is not around to keep them in checked, and get handed the zerg position.
you are not special, you got lucky.
need classic repops, azrael will not zerg one way or another. we get the best YT, only thing that matters.
krazyGlue
02-04-2015, 09:37 PM
holocaust was told by azrael to recruit and contest because we knew the timers
we did that exact thing and there were big fights for 2 or 3 weeks
then azrael quit because they lost
the system isn't flawed; you just refuse to keep playing after a loss
That was tons of fun for those 2-3 weeks after that your roster went from 40-50 to 70-80 your insane if you think 25 well rounded players can take on 70 . Warm bodies . And yes your right we had 35? For a uncontested ct with 5 guilds combined that we invited and shared loot with . But you have 70-80 for ragefire or a pre naggy clear . And expect guilds to compete
Crazycloud
02-04-2015, 09:37 PM
Lite just stop, you sound pathetic.
Edit: This guy above me as well... stop you sound pathetic, drama queens
so ur still in the denial phase
got it
krazyGlue
02-04-2015, 09:41 PM
Lite just stop, you sound pathetic.
Edit: This guy above me as well... stop you sound pathetic, drama queens
What's pathetic is that you need to have a 3.1 number advantage to compete in a 15 year old elf sim especially holocaust who claimed to be reds best pvpers at launch
woodlone
02-04-2015, 09:47 PM
yup, all that time of not wanting to recruit. Wanting to roll around with an elite 2 man crew (operating 25 characters at the same time) Why would you even stay that low? What did you expect would happen if / when Velious came out / comes out? You going to slay Velious raid bosses with 25 people? Should have never had that mentality and just recruited up and this shit would have been avoided.
Holo 6 months ago was getting outnumbered by Azrael worse than 3:1
There was literally no competition on top and the box had <100 players online during primetime.
A sizeable chunk of the guild is still trying to outgrow their walmart gear, so what do you expect other than pushing numbers advantage to win?
You should be talking with other big guilds (Fresh, Suave, whatever) and happy that there's actual competition now.
not gonna debate all this silly shit with non factors.
just requesting properly functioning earthquakes
Drakaris
02-04-2015, 09:51 PM
What's pathetic is that you need to have a 3.1 number advantage to compete in a 15 year old elf sim especially holocaust who claimed to be reds best pvpers at launch
You still fail to realise that having the number advantage means that people are being involved instead of being shut out and is actually HELPING THE SERVER POP.
This is where I fell out of touch with God's Work. They wanted to do the close knit elite thing, which is fine, but I couldn't get any of my Aussie pals in the guild once Nihilum fell apart and Vapo was trying to sell guild bank epic MQs for 200k+ to mains in Nihilum that made full membership, instead of offerring a guild invite and MQing the epic which did not belong to his personal stash (which he later MQed to his friends alt for their 15th BIS character).
There was a reason why I had an alt in Smoke Break / Blaze / Holocaust and it was to help the pals that got ostracised by the 'elite' mentality.
Crazycloud
02-04-2015, 09:53 PM
What's pathetic is that you need to have a 3.1 number advantage to compete in a 15 year old elf sim especially holocaust who claimed to be reds best pvpers at launch
Holocaust beat azrael's 6v6 group, please stop talking about this who is better at pvp shit gets old. All i hear is excuses from yall 24 7.
The best EQ pvp battles are 60vs60s so its simple RECRUIT and CONTEST! and we will have these large battles.
Few days ago you hear lite spamming OOC ONLY RECRUITING PVPERS. How stupid do you look when you do that? seriously? you cannot complain that you can't contest because low numbers when you do that. Just because someone sucks at pvp doesn't they they aren't cool as fuck.
The best PVP I've ever experience was a 3 way battle on SZ in feerrott and WC. There was over 160 players in the zone at both battles and they lasted i would say a good hour of pure pvp. If you want to experience this shit stop complaining and recruit and help people out. If you don't want to experience this shit then you don't want a high population pvp box.
Just admit you guys want it your way (the easy way) ganking noobs exping with BIS characters and pvping at zonelines.
Crazycloud
02-04-2015, 09:55 PM
not gonna debate all this silly shit with non factors.
just requesting properly functioning earthquakes
Prime example of why Azrael can't contest. A guild leader calling people non factors LOL. This guys ego hahahahhahahha.
HQ shut Azrael down within weeks GGWP.
Melveny
02-04-2015, 10:02 PM
I remember Holo trying the elite only approach on server launch. Myself and another officer wanted to recruit knowing it was necessary but the elites didn't want it. As a result it failed.
Huelath
02-04-2015, 10:05 PM
What's pathetic is that you need to have a 3.1 number advantage to compete in a 15 year old elf sim especially holocaust who claimed to be reds best pvpers at launch
will 6v6 any azrael crew you can come up with whenever u want
Sektor
02-04-2015, 10:10 PM
Prime example of why Azrael can't contest. A guild leader calling people non factors LOL. This guys ego hahahahhahahha.
HQ shut Azrael down within weeks GGWP.
who are you???
Steel Warrior
02-04-2015, 10:14 PM
not gonna debate all this silly shit with non factors.
just requesting properly functioning earthquakes
This is Lite's attitude in a nutshell. All of us are beneath notice to him. He is entitled to kill you at his leisure and to loot all dragon loot and divide it as he chooses. All of us, including most of you in Azrael, mean nothing to him. You are shit in his eyes.
If you follow him, it means you agree that you are shit.
Steel Warrior
02-04-2015, 10:15 PM
who are you???
You wouldn't know him. He doesn't sell gear for PayPal.
quido
02-04-2015, 10:19 PM
or gift cards
Steel Warrior
02-04-2015, 10:19 PM
That was tons of fun for those 2-3 weeks after that your roster went from 40-50 to 70-80 your insane if you think 25 well rounded players can take on 70 . Warm bodies . And yes your right we had 35? For a uncontested ct with 5 guilds combined that we invited and shared loot with . But you have 70-80 for ragefire or a pre naggy clear . And expect guilds to compete
This is untrue and you know it's untrue, which makes you a willful liar.
You, sir, are a liar.
Crazycloud
02-04-2015, 10:38 PM
who are you???
Oh my friend you have no clue.
Prime example of why Azrael can't contest. A guild leader calling people non factors LOL. This guys ego hahahahhahahha.
HQ shut Azrael down within weeks GGWP.
didn't mean it like that. just too many people with shitty opinions and a desire to troll, gets overwhelming. I've stated my points and why I hold them in legit talks.
I will gladly entertain a legit conversation any day.
w1zard
02-05-2015, 02:54 AM
That was tons of fun for those 2-3 weeks after that your roster went from 40-50 to 70-80 your insane if you think 25 well rounded players can take on 70 . Warm bodies . And yes your right we had 35? For a uncontested ct with 5 guilds combined that we invited and shared loot with . But you have 70-80 for ragefire or a pre naggy clear . And expect guilds to compete
Hopefully the zerg let's me in some day. I want to kill dragons and blue doesn't let me do that.
Clark
02-05-2015, 03:42 AM
The primary reason this server has failed to flourish is because spawns can stay at the same time slot for months at the time, nurturing the living fuck out of zergs which in turn make noone want to create other guilds.
proof ? Do I have to list all the failed non zerg guilds, who gave up and just joined zergs in the end ?
You call it us not wanting to play because we are losing. We call it not wanting to deal with the shit spawn system you for some reason can't fix.
Knowing that next time you engage the zerg will only be larger isn't as attractive as you might imagine.
not trying to throw any jabs, just calling it like I see it.
3+ years server, every veteran from every guild has cited spawns being locked in place for months at the time as being the most detrimental factor in red's existence.
You keep saying you know, and you'll fix it ... and the best solution you were able to throw out is something Rogean has to trigger ? the guy that you yourselves often joke about how impossible it is to get in touch with him ?
Servers on live reset weekly...Fix the problem already. it's classic.
Good post; not sure why GMs don't use variance. Especially with that jew kid zerging out Holocaust with traitors and non loyal guild hoppers.
Akalakamelee
02-05-2015, 05:00 AM
smaller guilds, varience = better chance for small guilds to recruit to reasonable numbers and contest. That also = far more pvp (if I'm correct that why are here... right guys.....)
Before static timers are debated again. Most raid bosses are on a timer during the week while I am at work, at least if it varied I would have a chance. Right now I gotta spend all my time farming, hoping I can get enough together for mith arms or something....
Buhbuh
02-05-2015, 07:07 AM
didn't mean it like that. just too many people with shitty opinions and a desire to troll, gets overwhelming. I've stated my points and why I hold them in legit talks.
I will gladly entertain a legit conversation any day.
Yes you did. Don't dissemble. Just because your elitist attitude is unpopular doesn't mean you shouldn't wear it when it's working against you.
Cobretti
02-05-2015, 07:19 AM
didn't mean it like that. just too many people with shitty opinions and a desire to troll, gets overwhelming. I've stated my points and why I hold them in legit talks.
I will gladly entertain a legit conversation any day.
Kike, needs a new home in Auschwitz
Steel Warrior
02-05-2015, 09:52 AM
smaller guilds, varience = better chance for small guilds to recruit to reasonable numbers and contest. That also = far more pvp (if I'm correct that why are here... right guys.....)
Before static timers are debated again. Most raid bosses are on a timer during the week while I am at work, at least if it varied I would have a chance. Right now I gotta spend all my time farming, hoping I can get enough together for mith arms or something....
Tell the truth: You have no idea what the timers are for anything.
Sektor
02-05-2015, 10:05 AM
Yes you did. Don't dissemble. Just because your elitist attitude is unpopular doesn't mean you shouldn't wear it when it's working against you.
You are prob the biggest elitist i have ever met, pot calling the kettle black???
Yes you did. Don't dissemble. Just because your elitist attitude is unpopular doesn't mean you shouldn't wear it when it's working against you.
Popular and unpopular don't impact me. That's the beauty of consistency. Crazycloud seems like a nice dude, and I legitimately made a statement that made me sound like a dick, and I felt like justifying myself.
Most people that want to get involved on these threads regarding spawns don't know what they are talking about, and that's fine. However, there's plenty that just want to mirror their team's opinion to be trolls, or just to get approval.
Take stasis for example, probably the only guy with more variance threads than me. now he wants to troll about how everything is fine, and it's all azrael's fault. inb4 thread about how he finally sees the light, he's been wrong for 3 years.
Checkraise on the other hand is someone I know I could have a legitimate spawn conversation with, despite the fact that he's changed his mind in the past. His agenda is actually progressive.
Akalakamelee
02-05-2015, 12:29 PM
guy in flowers of happiness who does nothing but play a level 10 crushbone twink complaining about raid mobs not having variance
is this real life?
The paladin I made I don't play and isn't tagged. Green jade broadsword and MM shield, so twink, cloth and some bronze for the rest. I pvp mostly in the 40-50 range. Don't you feel dumb now?
Akalakamelee
02-05-2015, 12:31 PM
Tell the truth: You have no idea what the timers are for anything.
That is correct. I leave my house to go to work, I don't have the luxury to play eq all day like others.
Doors
02-05-2015, 01:45 PM
There's already a thread about the same shit Sirken made. Just like there's already a leaderboard discussion thread.
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skitterburst
02-05-2015, 01:54 PM
just wipe the fuckin server, already
Steel Warrior
02-05-2015, 02:44 PM
legitimately made a statement that made me sound like a dick
There was nothing remarkable about that statement from you. You're consistently a dick in game and on the forums.
Steel Warrior
02-05-2015, 02:46 PM
That is correct. I leave my house to go to work, I don't have the luxury to play eq all day like others.
Then you will probably be surprised to learn that almost every raid mob is killed after you've returned home for the day.
But feel free to ignore that fact and post lengthy discussions of the reality you imagine.
Akalakamelee
02-05-2015, 02:48 PM
Then you will probably be surprised to learn that almost every raid mob is killed after you've returned home for the day.
But feel free to ignore that fact and post lengthy discussions of the reality you imagine.
Depends the time dude, not sure how you know my work schedule...
Nirgon
02-05-2015, 02:56 PM
He already gets to openly box chars
Maybe he should guild invite people?
Not_Kazowi
02-05-2015, 05:13 PM
nobody wants to have a "real conversation" about norrath with a convicted pedo
sorry to burst ur bubble
Chortled
Jimmybones
02-05-2015, 05:18 PM
couldnt have said it better myself.
sirken please read this and understand. for the sake of our pvp server. thanks.
no shit cause u have a 5th grade education
derpcake
02-05-2015, 06:34 PM
He already gets to openly box chars
This.
I don't have VP geared chars to box or epic rogues or any of that, but knowing this guy is granted a free pass on boxing, while definitely not an IT guy or someone smart, kinda makes the server lulz lets sploit it like D3.
Why bother to play fair when this shit is known by Sirken? Its probably just me.
Troubled
02-05-2015, 06:51 PM
just requesting properly functioning earthquakes
Can pras dat. Would make things more interesting and spread it around some.
Biaxil
02-05-2015, 06:53 PM
all the holo leaders were in failed guilds... magically they have a hit when Nihilum is not around to keep them in checked, and get handed the zerg position.
you are not special, you got lucky.
need classic repops, azrael will not zerg one way or another. we get the best YT, only thing that matters.
Sounds rustled. :D
Can pras dat. Would make things more interesting and spread it around some.
shhhh, everything is working fine.
Buhbuh
02-06-2015, 07:08 AM
You are prob the biggest elitist i have ever met, pot calling the kettle black???
as evidenced by my actions in game
surely, you are retarded 8)
MavstabYoudead
02-06-2015, 07:34 AM
I don't think cyren is an elitist. He's always wanted to zerg from what I've seen. RMT'er is a better description for him though.
Buhbuh
02-06-2015, 08:37 AM
I RMT'd your mom
holo can back me up on this
it happened
MavstabYoudead
02-06-2015, 08:38 AM
that explains how you paid rent last month.
Buhbuh
02-06-2015, 08:48 AM
was that a quip?
clever
it burns so deep
MavstabYoudead
02-06-2015, 08:50 AM
no i'm glad my mom could help you pay your rent, sincerely. Better than having to break server rules to do it then coming on here and talking about server health etc. Makes me want to puke reading you type about that stuff after knowing what you did.
Buhbuh
02-06-2015, 08:54 AM
if matters of elfsim induce puking you should see a doctor
this is quite a repartee we have going
im thinking it's become so childish that we should just kiss already and take it to PMs
puke breath real goog. u game?
MavstabYoudead
02-06-2015, 08:57 AM
i'm sure you'd like people to quit mentioning you RMT'd but it's not going away cheater.
Pikrib
02-06-2015, 08:58 AM
This.
I don't have VP geared chars to box or epic rogues or any of that, but knowing this guy is granted a free pass on boxing, while definitely not an IT guy or someone smart, kinda makes the server lulz lets sploit it like D3.
Why bother to play fair when this shit is known by Sirken? Its probably just me.
I think lite is actually an IT guy....
Buhbuh
02-06-2015, 09:03 AM
i'm sure you'd like people to quit mentioning you RMT'd but it's not going away cheater.
i dont cheat in matters of love ;)
Ghordo
02-06-2015, 09:11 AM
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Amplitude
02-06-2015, 09:21 AM
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