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tada32
02-03-2015, 03:22 AM
is a de warrior a viable warrior? what should my stats be? thinking 5 into str 5 into dex the rest into sta. any tips?

PDX0621
02-03-2015, 12:46 PM
http://wiki.project1999.com/Warrior

maskedmelon
02-06-2015, 04:47 PM
I would dump everything into str. Otherwise you will be encumbered indefinitely. If you've the cash to twink then that may be less concern. That is what I did with my war, but she is also just for fun and only twinked (if it can even be called that) with a few kpp in gear.

ArumTP
02-06-2015, 05:51 PM
http://wiki.project1999.com/Sakuragi%27s_Warrior_Guide

Though the guide doesn't show STR, statistically dark elf is the worst warrior.

Tier 1
Ogre
Tier 2
Iksar (velious), Troll, Dwarf
Tier 3
Barbarian, Iksar (current), Halfling
Tier 4
Human, Half elf
Tier 5
Gnome, Wood elf, dark elf

maskedmelon
02-06-2015, 07:49 PM
Indeed that is why they need str ^^

Dentalplan
02-06-2015, 08:00 PM
Its very easy to get strength from gear, so spending any of your points on strength is a very bad choice. Dark elf warriors should go 100% stamina. They have enough of a hp handicap without wasting their starting points :D

captnamazing
02-09-2015, 05:40 PM
Its very easy to get strength from gear, so spending any of your points on strength is a very bad choice. Dark elf warriors should go 100% stamina. They have enough of a hp handicap without wasting their starting points :D

Sylexis
02-10-2015, 02:03 PM
What Dentalplan/Vehk said. ^^^^

maskedmelon
02-10-2015, 04:30 PM
Just keep in mind that dumping all points into STA will net you:

L60: 150hp
L30: 63hp
L10: 18hp


Yes, for maximizing cheal efficiency at 60 this is the way to go, but for the rest of the game you will be waiting to see the returns (while encumbered if unfunded). As i said before though if you've some pp to spend it may not matter.
^^

Daldaen
02-10-2015, 05:09 PM
With buffs and gear in Verrious you will max STA and STR pretty quick I thinks.

Charisma for Divine Intervention however. 38 CHA on Ogre warriors makes me a sad panda.

Sylexis
02-10-2015, 05:21 PM
With buffs and gear in Verrious you will max STA and STR pretty quick I thinks.

Charisma for Divine Intervention however. 38 CHA on Ogre warriors makes me a sad panda.

Maxing str and dex will be easiest, stamina will come in second and agility will trail in last, but you are talking about sitting up around 230+, high enough to top it off with a potion of greater heat on tough targets.

captnamazing
02-11-2015, 06:32 PM
Invest in greater potions of adroitness if you aren't an ogre

Sylexis
02-12-2015, 10:49 AM
Invest in greater potions of adroitness if you aren't an ogre

Potion of greater heat will give you the same 25 stamina without the -20 dex.

Sylexis
02-12-2015, 11:05 AM
All in all, we are well and truly on the cusp of the elusive Velious expansion; with it comes FoS, which stacks with VoG after a month on the timeline.


Sham HP - Becomes Spirit of Focus (which adds dex and str)
Sham buffs:
Str 67 + 68
Dex 60 + 67
Sta +50
Agi + 52

So With Shaman buffed (Str/sta/dex/agi/FoS) to cap 255 I'd need:
120 Str
128 Dex
205 Sta
203 Agi

One month into Velious VoG will stack with FoS so the numbers will look more like:

120 Str
103 Dex
205 Sta
163 Agi


I still haven't settled on weather I like VoG +20 atk or prefer to cap my haste with SoS, so I generally go with SoS because I prefer the monster I can calculate versus the heresay I can't, but at the end of the day what IS glaringly clear is the stat you need to stack is Stamina.

khanable
02-12-2015, 12:04 PM
Potion of greater heat will give you the same 25 stamina without the -20 dex.

A well geared epic warrior will have dex for days

I know I hit something like 300 dex buffed, so a loss of 20 is whatever. Still capped.

And adroitness gives another stat, I want to say agi but it may be strength - either way, it's useful.

Sylexis
02-12-2015, 01:43 PM
NT

captnamazing
02-12-2015, 05:45 PM
Adroitness is a AGI+STA and -DEX buff. As cucu said, I don't mind the penalty to dex cause that warrior epic, yall.

However, I am interested in the greater potion of heat. How much does it cost for a shaman to make you one? Perhaps it's a cheaper option than adroitness!

khanable
02-12-2015, 07:44 PM
I thought heat pots did negative to some stat. Maybe str?

Sylexis
02-13-2015, 12:00 AM
Adroitness is a AGI+STA and -DEX buff. As cucu said, I don't mind the penalty to dex cause that warrior epic, yall.

However, I am interested in the greater potion of heat. How much does it cost for a shaman to make you one? Perhaps it's a cheaper option than adroitness!

It's actually the same cost to the penny as adroitness. You lose 15 str instead of 20 Dex, it's all a matter of how your gear is at the time and what buffs are available to you in the current expansion you are playing in, still though, if they stack like they probably do, 50 sta is nothing to scoff at.

I was about to comment earlier on the stark difference between asking what starting stats to put into a dark elf warrior, and the warrior blue sword procs overcapping your dex, but I thought it wasn't really prevalent to the conversation.

The bottom line still is Dex and Str now (and especially in Velious) will be super easy to over cap, and both potions and general Sta gear are the things to look for when making a dark elf warrior a viable top level raid tank.

Tl;dr stack stamina and buy potions of greater heat and adoritness.

khanable
02-14-2015, 12:03 PM
happy birthday!

Gnomercy
02-14-2015, 12:09 PM
LoL dald

iruinedyourday
02-24-2015, 05:42 AM
Divine Intervention is a cha roll? I didnt know that. cool? Does that mean that stat is valuable to a War?

arsenalpow
02-24-2015, 09:07 AM
Divine Intervention is a cha roll? I didnt know that. cool? Does that mean that stat is valuable to a War?

There was an argument back in the day that charisma was THE most important stat for that DI check. People were making wood elf warriors for that charisma bump.